Hi guys, you may or may not know but T-Mobile and Orange have merged together and now call EE.
A friend of mine updated his iPhone last week and installed a network update, I'm assuming this is a radio update?
Anyway, his phone is now displaying EE, but my DHD is still saying T-Mobile or orange.
Do I need to upgrade my radio? I'm using TrickDroid ICS. I've tried searching for new radios on here, but Tapatalk search is pants!
Cheers
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No, you shouldn't need to upgrade your radio, over time it should automatically change to EE
Think of it this way, when t-mobile and Orange merged and began sharing networks, they changed from T-mobile to T-Mobile Orange (when using orange's network on a t-mobile contract) and no upgrade was necessary.
I have an iCrap lying around (mum's old phone) with an orange SIM, I'll check in a bit with my DHD and the iCrap
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Thanks for the replies, it's just strange that we can stand next to each other, mine says one thing and his says another, that was since his update.
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Apple may have sent an update (because they have to be different to everyone else!) to read the network code (23430 etc) as EE from now on. Most phones I am guessing rely on information sent from the carrier.
It is a strange one though because I have a friend with a 4s which shows EE from Orange, but I have a 3gs which shows T-mobile still....unless it is only Orange on iOS?
EDIT:
Just restored an iphone on iOS6 and after the restore, it showed 'T-mobile' but then had a message stating there was an update from the carrier. I did the update and it showed 'EE' so it is a carrier update, presumably rolled out for IOS only for now
EE
My wife's DHD shows EE after a sms message from orange and my DHD still shows orange just have to wait for orange to send out the sms for it to change to EE
EE are sending the updates out in batches, the ones that upgraded manually when they merged with TMobile are going first, the rest are due to follow over the next few months.
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Anybody getting 'Message failed to send after multiple retries' on the Desire when using Orange??
I have been getting it very often, and I lose signal randomly for no reason at all. Don't really want to disable 3g, my brother on orange has no problems and hes only a room over.
Is it a desire radio software fault or is it just my luck?
Most of the times it works fine?
Yep mine is doing the same thing. Have you debranded yours by any chance? I have, wonder if its related to that. I phoned Orange and they told me to wait a few days and switch to gsm while they had a look at the local tower. It seems to be better now but it still does it occasionally even though theirs plenty of signal.
My Orange is working fine
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Mine seems to worked fine after I threatened it with a hammer and all seems to be fine then.
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I used to get loads of network problems, or lack of network should I say,I flashed it with rom RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984 and no longer have problems with network,however, in the wireless and network settings,I have WCDMA only selected....also,when flashing with this rom,I then had to purchased an unlock code for my phone as i locked it out
However, the phone is much better.
You should wait as HTC are releasing the android 2.2 on the desire in the next 2 weeks and that should fix bugs.....the Desire is much better when not Branded to Orange
Wouldn't flash that ROM onto an Onrage Desire mate, the radio borks it. You could always download the 4.05.00.11 and re-flash it however.
It's 100x better than the [email protected]*t it was shipped with though
kurtish said:
It's 100x better than the [email protected]*t it was shipped with though
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Yes but the radio isn't supported on the Orange network. By all means if they have the original 4.05.00.11 radio backed up, go ahead and flash it. Just expect a sim-locked phone if you don't use the radio I've just mentioned.
It got locked, but I paid to get it unlocked,so won't have no further problems.....is there any news on Android 2.2 yet?
Is there any advantage to getting a desire thats been nowhere near o2/Voda/3/Orange/T-Mobile ?
The proper sim free Desire will not have any network branding or apps installed and it will be first in line for any updates released by HTC. Plus, you won't have to run the risk of debranding the phone and losing its warranty
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YES!
Orange have mutilated the Desire, ****ed around with the apps, broken the browser, and muddled up the voicemail - it's a car crash.
T-Mo have been kinder, but they decided to volume limit the damned thing, which is hugely annoying when your favourite tune come on.
I don't know what Voda, O2 or 3 have done to theirs.
However, you can always debrand a carrier-subsidised phone by flashing the ROM, it's an easy procedure (search - there are loads of guides) but it might void your warranty. If the operator's ROM is available in the wild then you might be able to reflash it before sending it off for repair, but you cannot flash an older bootloader over a newer one which might put you in a pickle in 18 months time if your debranded phone's been updated a few times OTA and only old operator ROMs are available.
Therefore, your best bet is to get it unbranded, you could eithe pay £380 full whack for it or get it from Carphone Warehouse or online and get the benefit of the subsidy as well.
It's an amazing phone, man, AMAZING!
£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just whack "htc desire" into Google shopping. Saw it on Amazon for £390 or so earlier today.
I think play.com are doing it for 389 now.
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
cirian75 said:
me thinks cpw will be 399.99 richer tomorrow
and I will be 130 poorer (sold my iphone 3gs for 270 today)
are the cpw ones proper sim free's?
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Mine was, best phone I've ever owned...
And to mirror what others are saying - ALWAYS get SIM-free phones if you can
me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
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me thinks it's a plan
Nexus Ones a silly money sim free.
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It'd be first to get 'proper' FroYo but I don't like the trackball - one more thing to possibly break and if anything like my missus BlackBerry it'll stop working within a couple of months!
EddyOS, your local to me lol
also, I had a blackberry 8800
went through 5 trackballs in a year, but £10 for a bag 5, meh, wasn't fussed
Then they integrated in on the 1st Bold
I just hope the desire gets ginger bread.
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£380
where ??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
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Generic HTC Desire on Vodafone in the uk
I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
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!£350 at 3 unlocked unbranded
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yeah 3 has it for that price but not many will offer it as they get less commission if they sell on payg but who knows you might get lucky.. oh apparently they need you to buy a £10 top up now so total is £360
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I cant see any way my desire is locked, or modified by Vodafone - i used to avoid them in the past as Id seen the mess they made of some handsets, but to the best of my knowledge the one I got from them 6 weeks ago is completely standard.
I know it's not locked to any networks, already tried a few different sims in and it works fine, and nothing in the Software Info suggests locking or customisation.
If you need a contract of some sorts it seems a good plan, its a free phone and my contract works out at about £400 over the 18 months anyway, not to mention all the data text and calls i get in the deal
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Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
just rang 3 "3" stores
nope on the sim free version
£389.99 on Play.com
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...?_$ja=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:13665745|cat:Mobile+
Guess I was lucky with my Three handset.
I took one out on a contract and got a totally unlocked and unbranded handset.
Apparantly it was because they were having problems getting three branded handsets so all the shops were send unlocked/unbranded ones to help with the demand!
Cool eh!
Phil
I have it right now in my hand
£399.95 sim free from CPW
setting it up.
EddyOS said:
Check your FW version in Settings>About phone>Software version
if you've got x.xx.161.x then it's a Vodafone branded handset, if it's x.xx.405.x then it's a SIM-free handset
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It is interesting that Vodafone (UK) are not branding the Desire - their unlocked policy is well known.
When I compare a Vodafone handset to my unbranded (bought that way) Desire, the Vodafone handset has even less 'bloat-ware'!!!
As commented elsewhere, I will get any Firmware upgrades first - but I don't understand Vodafone's logic: -
No branding.
Unlocked.
So why not just hand out default unbranded HTC phones, if you're not going to control the experience...??
MMB.
Hi,
Does it make any difference as to what network i buy the desire on? (UK)
For example, i know it will be locked to that network, but is there branding or any other locks for different networks?
Thanks
Orange have the most branding. T-Mobile and Three have little branding, Vodafone have with the latest update that go pulled so none -- O2 none.
However you can de-brand any of the phones to get rid of all of the crap they put on there. I did with my Orange phone as they're the slowest to dish out updates and their software was awful.
excellent cheers i was planning on changing the OS anyway... my Diamond lasted 3 hours after i bought it, before i changed the ROM
Vodafone, until recently, left their Desires alone but a recent OTA update added splash screen/Vodafone 360 app to it (which people were extremely annoyed about!!)
T-Mobile has splash screens (I think)
Orange change loads, add their own apps and generally mess it up so avoid!!
O2 add things too, don't know about 3
Best thing, go to CPW and get it on upgrade and you should get a SIM-free, generic Desire - I did this and always do as I hate branded phones!!
Thanks. Its actually going to be my Dad getting it he's going to see what he can get on his O2 business account i'll be playing with different versions of Android on it anyway...
The main reason I'd say get it SIM-free is speed of updates - operators have other product codes so you'd have to wait on them to OK an update before getting it, regardless of added apps, etc...got mine SIM-free from CPW on upgrade so got the FroYo update as soon as I got back from the US
ok cool.
Its probably going to be running a modified version of Android anyway, so shouldnt need to worry about updates
I was running custom ROMs too but found that stock FroYo does all I want it to so I can live with the crap apps I don't ever use for now
Awesome phone, though
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I was running custom ROMs too but found that stock FroYo does all I want it to so I can live with the crap apps I don't ever use for now
Awesome phone, though
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cool, we'll see what happens. cheers for the help
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cool, we'll see what happens. cheers for the help
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Please I'm using o2 branded HTC desire, do I need to debrand it before I get group 2.2 as I am presently in Lagos and not in the UK at the moment.
Hi,
I am just about to get a DHD but I have 2 Options of the Network either on 3 or Orange Uk, However I am on Tmobile UK but I ll be unlocking/debranding the phone for my own use.
I have come across a fried who got his from 3 UK and it came unlocked, so I am not sure if anyone else Knows if it comes unlock/unbranded etc..
Just need to know before deciding which one to go for.
Thanks in advance.
I am leaving orange to go to 3uk i have found the signel better than orange so far and lots cheaper, As for unlocked mine had no branding on it at all, after about a hour it was s-off ,sim unlocked etc.. with no problems at all.
I was with orange for over 10 years but what with there expansive talk plans , small internet useage etc.. i switched , But know i having problems get my number off them..
A work colleague got a DHD from 3 and it was branded, at least until I got him on the latest AR HD ROM and debranded it for him.
From stock you'll get branded splashscreen, bootanim and some 3 apps. The handset itself has no branding on it though. Dunno if it came locked as he got it on 3 to use it on 3 so I had no need to test.
Someone else at work had one on Orange and that has their logo on the rear casing. I'm not sure about software branding but I think it's safe to say it will knowing what Orange are like.
Thanks for the reply guys..
I have a HD on Orange and 2 of my friends.
There is no branding on the phone anywhere.
There is no branding on the ROM either.
It's about time Orange stop messing with ROMS.
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Mine's on 3uk and was locked but is easy to unlock on here.
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themonkster said:
I have a HD on Orange and 2 of my friends.
There is no branding on the phone anywhere.
There is no branding on the ROM either.
It's about time Orange stop messing with ROMS.
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Were they from from a reseller or Orange direct?
The guy here at work with the Orange branded DHD got his from Orange direct.
If you get them from Phones4U, Car Phone Ware House etc then most of the time it will be unlocked & unbranded as they just get one off the shelf and then give you a SIM card to suit the network you just signed up for.
Same with T-Mobile. I did my upgrade with them on the phone but they had no stock left so they said I could pick one up from a local CPW store, which I did. No branding for me
Wow!!
Think i got lucky with my DHD.
I got mine from a "three" store, It had the stock rom installed no "3" branding anywhere!
(was sim free too) ^_^
i got my dhd with orange online, the only branding on the device whas the orange boot animation, it also came with older software so it was easly rooted. another good thing about orange is the "your orange" app on the market, letting you view your current spendings, how many mins and data you have left and your current bill
I've been on Orange for years. The only problem I have is when I'm in a 2G area and a data connection is active - any incoming voicecalls go straight to voicemail. This is because Orange prioritize data over voice, and 2G can't handle both simultaneously. No problem on 3G. Vodaphone prioritize voice in these circumstances.
Anyway, at the end of my contract I said I want to go monthly SIM-only (having bought my dhd off contract and sold my Touch HD) . Orange offered me 300 any network minutes, unlimited landline, 1Gb data, 15 picture messages, and a Desire for £13 per month. I promptly bit their hand off. Now selling the Desire....
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Guys
I have 2 HOX my wife and sister use both are locked to Vodafone and one has a Vodafone SIM the other a TESCO SIM.
The Vodafone SIM one got the OTA about 4 weeks ago but I have tried to even force the TESCO SIM one to update without success.
I even put a Vodafone SIM and tried and tried the Google Framework Wipe.
Any ideas why one updates and other work ?
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Both are having the same cid? It doesn't depend which sim card you have...it depends on the cid... And often the devices with same cid aren't getting ar the same time the update
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Thanks both have the same CID
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Could be a carrier issue?
Carriers have to approve the updates on their own networks before they are pushed.
Tesco could be really slow?
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Could be a carrier issue?
Carriers have to approve the updates on their own networks before they are pushed.
Tesco could be really slow?
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Yep - Orange / T-Mobile / EE are still waiting for it as well. I got sick of waiting & flashed ARHD onto mine this weekend. Orange & T-Mobile are denying the update exists, or just saying "your phone will let you know when it is ready." This morning I had a tweet from EE in response to one of mine - they said if I plug my phone into my PC a web page for the phone will open and tell me if there are any updates. Absolute b***ocks!
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Yep - Orange / T-Mobile / EE are still waiting for it as well. I got sick of waiting & flashed ARHD onto mine this weekend. Orange & T-Mobile are denying the update exists, or just saying "your phone will let you know when it is ready." This morning I had a tweet from EE in response to one of mine - they said if I plug my phone into my PC a web page for the phone will open and tell me if there are any updates. Absolute b***ocks!
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Never heard/seen that before haha ! They're so incompetent !
Yeah I also flashed ARHD
Had some weird rebooting issue the other day, but seems to have cleared itself.
in germany all carriers got the update already.....vodafone and t-mobile ...and if there are others