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I have a problem, that I cannot find nor figure out the solution, I hope there is someone here that can help. I have used and have flashed with Odin many many times and have never had a problem.
Problem:
I am running a BeastMod 5.0, and before that I was running a ICS ROM...can't remember which one. I wanted to make sure I had everything ready for when the Official ICS dropped. Went to flash the stock which is posted here, got all the way (in Odin) to the Modem cache.img.ext4 part and that is where it hangs. I actually left it overnight just to make sure, and was still stuck on that part of the flash. It keeps rebooting to the Kies download page and only way to fix is to Odin Flash clockwork recovery. I have tried the super wipe, cache wipe, and every other tool I can find, but it still always get stuck at the part listed above.
Hopefully someone else has had the same problem and been able to fix. All help is greatly appreciated.
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I have a problem, that I cannot find nor figure out the solution, I hope there is someone here that can help. I have used and have flashed with Odin many many times and have never had a problem.
Problem:
I am running a BeastMod 5.0, and before that I was running a ICS ROM...can't remember which one. I wanted to make sure I had everything ready for when the Official ICS dropped. Went to flash the stock which is posted here, got all the way (in Odin) to the Modem cache.img.ext4 part and that is where it hangs. I actually left it overnight just to make sure, and was still stuck on that part of the flash. It keeps rebooting to the Kies download page and only way to fix is to Odin Flash clockwork recovery. I have tried the super wipe, cache wipe, and every other tool I can find, but it still always get stuck at the part listed above.
Hopefully someone else has had the same problem and been able to fix. All help is greatly appreciated.
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Check your USB cable mine kept getting stuck one step before yiu and it was my cheap Ebay blackberry cable that caused it, yhdn I used a MyTouch 4 g slide cable and voila! Went through smoothlyy
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YourAntic said:
Check your USB cable mine kept getting stuck one step before yiu and it was my cheap Ebay blackberry cable that caused it, yhdn I used a MyTouch 4 g slide cable and voila! Went through smoothlyy
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Yeah thanks for the help. Unfortunately I already have just forgot to say I had...Any other ideas?
Hate to state the obvious but dis you make sure you have a good download? Did you redownload and try again?
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i dont suppose exchanging the phone is an option?
sinfulgray said:
Hate to state the obvious but dis you make sure you have a good download? Did you redownload and try again?
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Yeah I checked the MD5, all are good. Re-downloaded and rechecked just to make sure. What is weird is....Everything flashes fine individually...or through recovery. I can get it back to stock, but with one big all inclusive package it gets stuck at the same place?
Try a different odin version.
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Try a different odin version.
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Thanks for your reply. I have tried that too. Wish Odin Mobile was an option so I can try that too.
need help please. stuck,
I just got my phone back and I was attempting to put on the dakside rom. I used the superwhipe, and the when I looked to find the darkside rom it wasnt in my list of things to flash, now allI get is the the s screenand I cant seem to get past that. I would appreciant any help as I just just gotthis phohe back and have missed it terrably, Thanks you
Also I cant boot into clockwork recovery
bls2633 said:
I just got my phone back and I was attempting to put on the dakside rom. I used the superwhipe, and the when I looked to find the darkside rom it wasnt in my list of things to flash, now allI get is the the s screenand I cant seem to get past that. I would appreciant any help as I just just gotthis phohe back and have missed it terrably, Thanks you
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Try reflashing the recovery. Once in recovery, reflash the ROM. That is what I had to do. Hope it helps. Also, make sure and upload the ROM to your SD Card...the superwipe doesn't touch the SD Card.
bls2633 said:
I just got my phone back and I was attempting to put on the dakside rom. I used the superwhipe, and the when I looked to find the darkside rom it wasnt in my list of things to flash, now allI get is the the s screenand I cant seem to get past that. I would appreciant any help as I just just gotthis phohe back and have missed it terrably, Thanks you
Also I cant boot into clockwork recovery
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Put your phone in download mode, open Odin, flash non-touch recovery 5.0.2.7, then boot to recovery, go to mounts and storage, mount usb, transfer ROM, flash ROM, fix permisssions, reboot and enjoy!
I accidently wipe my phones internal storage including backups, Im running latest TWRP and it wont read my sd card. I have a custom rom on the sd card but i cant access via recovery. phone boots to recovery and even download mode but i dont think my usb debug is checked and i cant get thru with odin. Im crunched for time as my wife is coming home in an hour and she will be furious if i bricked my phone i need help restoring before she gets home. thanks.
Heres how I fixed the problem, it was easy after doing but confusing getting there. Since the phone would not boot past the galaxy s3 screen there was no way for me to select USB debugging. That option totally did not allow me to use the Galaxy S3 toolkit listed in android development nor could I select and run any of their lists of "Root" roms because something would happen where ODIN didnt boot it correctly. It ran it at first then "Boot" came on then "Reset" came on then "Pass" came on but nothing ever took. I went to samsung-updates.com selected the ICS factory rom and saved it to desktop. Then I unzipped that rom to unveil the TAR file and flash that via Odin and Bam it ran thru no problems. The problems I ran into earlier were links from other posts and it turned out they were either bad links or not for the phone. I actually tried one guys download link that claimed to be specifically for the T999 us version and it turned out to be for another phone all together Im just lucky that flash didnt brick my device even more. Anyways Odin was my friend it was just a matter of downloading the "Correct" rom. thanks to all that helped I appreciated you all taking the time to answer.
I would download this tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746682. You should be able to use your PC to flash your Nandroid, although i have never done that.
It doesn't matter if USB debugging is checked if the phone is off.
when i boot to recovery it boots to manual mode anyone know what to do next?
You can flash stuff from your computer in download mode through Odin. I hate doing it myself, but will try to look it up for you
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looks like Odin in download mode is the way to go. Good luck bro
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Searching would have solved this problem just odin
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when i run in oDin it completes and gives me a pass at the end but the phone never auto reboots even though that option is checked. the phone stays on the galaxy s3 screen and never changes from there.
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when i run in oDin it completes and gives me a pass at the end but the phone never auto reboots even though that option is checked. the phone stays on the galaxy s3 screen and never changes from there.
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Boot to Recovery and reset factory defaults. That will fix it. It will still "stick" on that screen, but after a couple minutes, it will continue.
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Boot to Recovery and reset factory defaults. That will fix it. It will still "stick" on that screen, but after a couple minutes, it will continue.
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Yup boot into recovery and factory reset. You will be good to go.
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ionic7 said:
Searching would have solved this problem just odin
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Yup boot into recovery and factory reset. You will be good to go.
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I booted to recovery did a factory reset but it still stayed on the samsung galaxy s3 screen for over fifteen minutes now. I even tried the rom toolbox someone suggested earlier but upon flashing a stock rom it prompts me to check usb debugging and I cant get past that screen.
Stock kernel! That should do the trick! Can't believe I forgot about that. Try that and it will boot up fine.
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chrisram88 said:
Stock kernel! That should do the trick! Can't believe I forgot about that. Try that and it will boot up fine.
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I was running paranoid android prior to this mess and yes your probably right about the kernel but I have downloaded from samsung-updates.com the ics kernel patch but its in a zip folder so i DL winzip to extract it but that doesnt seem to work either. IS there a stock rom download with a kernel i can download and use with odin?
laraiza said:
I was running paranoid android prior to this mess and yes your probably right about the kernel but I have downloaded from samsung-updates.com the ics kernel patch but its in a zip folder so i DL winzip to extract it but that doesnt seem to work either. IS there a stock rom download with a kernel i can download and use with odin?
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Check the dev section. There should be a thread there with stock rom and kernel flashable thru Odin
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chrisram88 said:
Check the dev section. There should be a thread there with stock rom and kernel flashable thru Odin
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Found a rom and a kernel in the development section and ran it thru odin and it still didnt take. I noticed that the rom flash thru odin only took about two minutes and not once did i see where the modem cycle was being applied. Still no luck for me. Since my phone does not boot pass the galaxy s3 screen is it possible to get the phone to mount via usb cable and copy the roms to internal storage and install via recovery?
Finally got it working again. Thanks to all that helped.
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That's great man. You should edit the op with how you did it so in case others have same problem they can fix it.
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Sounds good I'll get it done in a few days I'm stuck at work again for now.
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i am a new rooter and somehow wiped everything with twrp. im stuck at samsung galaxy s 111 screen, or i can boot into twrp. but theres nothing to restore. can someone help me?
balibalistic said:
i am a new rooter and somehow wiped everything with twrp. im stuck at samsung galaxy s 111 screen, or i can boot into twrp. but theres nothing to restore. can someone help me?
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Easiest thing would be to put a ROM on an SD card and flash it in recovery.
Other option is to Odin back to stock in download.
Edit.....
For future reference here is task's full wipe video to avoid wiping something by accident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dYSumHaxwI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Also please remember to flash and wipe exactly as instructed in the ROM thread
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My computers will not recognize the phone now
With your ROM being wiped your computer won't recognize your phone unless you are in download mode using Odin to go back to stock.
If you don't have a SD card adapter to put in your computer to put a rom on you'll have to Odin back to stock.
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ok, thank you. o i just google.., odin back to stock i suppose?
balibalistic said:
ok, thank you. o i just google.., odin back to stock i suppose?
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I don't know what carrier you are on but use this guide to download the proper stock (unrooted, you'll need to re-root) ROM for your specific carrier.
All the tools and instructions you need are on this site. Unsure how to use Odin? Try a youtube search for your carrier and model.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28019751
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ok, ive got an external sd. anyone interested in helping me step by step install cm10? on here or i will call ya.please
im in rogers (at&t galaxy s3 1747)
ok, so anything i try to load on just fails..., i have no idea why?
well i installed untimatum and now im in a boot loop.man do i suck.
balibalistic said:
ok, so anything i try to load on just fails..., i have no idea why?
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Define fails?
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the word FAILED pops up in red letters immediatly after i swype the bar.
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well i installed untimatum and now im in a boot loop.man do i suck.
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I find that if you successfully flash a ROM and get stuck in a boot loop to reboot into recovery and factory reset. Seems to work.
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nope, still looping unfortunatly.
Any old nandroids saved?
Happen to flash a 4.2.1 build lately? Or were you basically stock?
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nope, still looping unfortunatly.
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Did you ever consider to get back to stock and start from scrach? If you to try this metod.
would i just try to install that like a rom? ive installed three now successfully, but all boot loop.
i just want to get this damn phone working.., on anything
balibalistic said:
i just want to get this damn phone working.., on anything
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i will paypal anyone $20 to help me get this thing running cm10.., honestly :good:
I hope that you are wiping data, ext, cache, and dalvik-cache before flashing any new Roms.
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balibalistic said:
i will paypal anyone $20 to help me get this thing running cm10.., honestly :good:
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Did you try and follow his link? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984717
Flashing stock is pretty much your only option. From there, you can flash a custom recovery and then CM10.
Hi all! I'm new here so please refrain from flaming me...
I'm no noob to flashing the rom on my phone as I have successfully carried out the procedure multiple times. However, on this occasion things didn't go as planned. I began the procedure to update my S3 via odin to the new firmware that was released yesterday, however when the process got to 'system.img' the status bar just hung in the same place (just past the beginning of the bar) for a good 20 minutes... I panicked and unplugged my phone... BAD MOVE. I now get the error message "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again." and the only thing I can do is put my phone in odin mode, which I did, and tried to install the stock jelly bean rom, the exact same thing happened as before...
What should I do?
Thanks in advance
You tried to flash the stock firmware?
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alloycowboy said:
You tried to flash the stock firmware?
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Yes I did, and as I said, the exact same thing happened as before... :crying:
ExperimentalHDX said:
Hi all! I'm new here so please refrain from flaming me...
I'm no noob to flashing the rom on my phone as I have successfully carried out the procedure multiple times. However, on this occasion things didn't go as planned. I began the procedure to update my S3 via odin to the new firmware that was released yesterday, however when the process got to 'system.img' the status bar just hung in the same place (just past the beginning of the bar) for a good 20 minutes... I panicked and unplugged my phone... BAD MOVE. I now get the error message "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again." and the only thing I can do is put my phone in odin mode, which I did, and tried to install the stock jelly bean rom, the exact same thing happened as before...
What should I do?
Thanks in advance
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Go to your phone thread and look for the unbrick package for the SGS3
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alexischino said:
Go to your phone thread and look for the unbrick package for the SGS3
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Is this the thread called 'Welcome to your device, the Galaxy S III'? If not, I'd appreciate it if a link can be provided to this thread.
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Go to your phone thread and look for the unbrick package for the SGS3
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I don't believe we have that for our model.
If you can still get download mode there's hope, maybe not a lot in this case, but there is some.
Try to flash cwm or twrp via odin. If successful boot recovery and try to flash a stock rom. Hopefully it only screwed up the system partition. ...
Never unplug till odin says either PASS, FAIL, or RESET. You may end up really lucky this time. If its taking a long time, just leave the room.
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DocHoliday77 said:
I don't believe we have that for our model.
If you can still get download mode there's hope, maybe not a lot in this case, but there is some.
Try to flash cwm or twrp via odin. If successful boot recovery and try to flash a stock rom. Hopefully it only screwed up the system partition. ...
Never unplug till odin says either PASS, FAIL, or RESET. You may end up really lucky this time. If its taking a long time, just leave the room.
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Yep, never unplug a phone when ur doing a update via odin or u will get a brick phone, i hope u can get CWM or twrp installed.......
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alexischino said:
Yep, never unplug a phone when ur doing a update via odin or u will get a brick phone, i hope u can get CWM or twrp installed.......
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DocHoliday77 said:
I don't believe we have that for our model.
If you can still get download mode there's hope, maybe not a lot in this case, but there is some.
Try to flash cwm or twrp via odin. If successful boot recovery and try to flash a stock rom. Hopefully it only screwed up the system partition. ...
Never unplug till odin says either PASS, FAIL, or RESET. You may end up really lucky this time. If its taking a long time, just leave the room.
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Thanks for your help so far guys... I'm going to try that now... I'll keep you posted...
Bad news... FAIL appears when I try...
Does it say fail when you try a full firmware flash?
Do you get any response at all when trying to boot recovery?
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Does it say fail when you try a full firmware flash?
Do you get any response at all when trying to boot recovery?
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When I try a whole firmware flash it just hangs right after it starts, and when I tried to boot recovery (was that what was previously suggested?) it says fail...
I previously suggested trying to flash recovery only using odin. Before you just said you can only boot to download mode, so I was asking what does it do when you try to boot into recovery?
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I previously suggested trying to flash recovery only using odin. Before you just said you can only boot to download mode, so I was asking what does it do when you try to boot into recovery?
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Oh right, my bad. When I try to boot into recovery the error screen saying to recover with Kies pops up.
Good news! I followed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905655 and I am now able to get into recovery mode. I guess my only option now is to wipe my data, install stock JB and everything should be ok?
Guys, even better news... That thread was the solution! My phone is now back to normal! I did lose a lot of pictures, but oh well, I'm glad I have my phone back to normal. Thanks for all your help! :good:
Wow! Ok, I am glad you got it working again, but you took a huge risk flashing that. Luckily its just the kernel aparently, but you should never flash anything from the international forum. More hard bricks have occured from flashing international stuff than anything else.
Just pointing this out so you or others reading this don't take it as meaning they can flash international roms and mods.
Glad it did work out for you though!
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Wow! Ok, I am glad you got it working again, but you took a huge risk flashing that. Luckily its just the kernel aparently, but you should never flash anything from the international forum. More hard bricks have occured from flashing international stuff than anything else.
Just pointing this out so you or others reading this don't take it as meaning they can flash international roms and mods.
Glad it did work out for you though!
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Thank you for the info! I keep that in mind so I don't run into any other problems. Now, I'm deciding whether I should try to install that firmware that caused the problem again... Even though I know what to do in the event that odin hangs, the results may not be the same... What do you think?
On a side note: It seems I only text messages and app settings, luckily I backed up my phone with Kies a few days ago so it's all good
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Thank you for the info! I keep that in mind so I don't run into any other problems. Now, I'm deciding whether I should try to install that firmware that caused the problem again... Even though I know what to do in the event that odin hangs, the results may not be the same... What do you think?
On a side note: It seems I only text messages and app settings, luckily I backed up my phone with Kies a few days ago so it's all good
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Before you do, check under the battery so you are certain of the phone model. There are 3 variants if the T999, and they cannot flash each others firmware.
Also, I don't believe you mentioned which firmware you tried, or I missed it, but which was it?
And i said it before, but do not unplug during flash. It may seem to take forever if it hangs, but it will eventually Fail out if it does.
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Before you do, check under the battery so you are certain of the phone model. There are 3 variants if the T999, and they cannot flash each others firmware.
Also, I don't believe you mentioned which firmware you tried, or I missed it, but which was it?
And i said it before, but do not unplug during flash. It may seem to take forever if it hangs, but it will eventually Fail out if it does.
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Okay, it's definitely the GT-I9300, and the firmware I tried to flash was this one from SamMobile:
GT-I9300 United Kingdom 2013 July 4.1.2 I9300XXEMG4 I9300OXAEMG4
And okay, it's just that it it hung for so long I thought "well, that's not right", panicked, then yeah, messed up my phone.
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Okay, it's definitely the GT-I9300, and the firmware I tried to flash was this one from SamMobile:
GT-I9300 United Kingdom 2013 July 4.1.2 I9300XXEMG4 I9300OXAEMG4
And okay, it's just that it it hung for so long I thought "well, that's not right", panicked, then yeah, messed up my phone.
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Ahhhh, well, I know now why it didn't brick your phone when you flsshed thst kernel! You do hsve the correct phone for that. So you will need to reverse what I told you and do not flsdh anything from this forum! Sorry for the confusion, I assumed you had a T999.
It sounds like you have the right firmware, but I know very little about the international models. They are very different than ours. You should definitely go to the International forum from here on. Very little info you get here will be relevant and you cannot use any of our roms or otherwise.
Good luck!
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Hello and thanks to all those before me who give great advice on troubleshooting....
Here's my situation:
Phone is Rooted.
I downloaded an app a few days ago from the Play Store, so I could move my app installs to the sdcard. When i installed the app it said that there was something wrong " can't remember the exact message " and it needed to fix it. My dumbass allowed it to fix it and here is where my problems began.
Right after that I began receiving a message "Shell has been granted Super User", phone began to run sluggish and the Play Store App would always say it was crashing.
So I figured, screw it I would format and start w/a new ROM anyway.... I did not have any sort of backup (of course dumbass)
However I loaded up the latest version of Odin 3.09 and just incase I installed the root.zip again incase that was destroyed. Then I installed the latest version of OUDHS CWM-Based Recovery 1.0.3.3 ( Previously I had TWRP )
I downloaded a few different roms so I could see what I wanted...However...here's where things get interesting, and I did do some research on it but couldn't find a way to resolve the 1st problem.
When I first started to install a ROM, don't remember which one I was getting a signature verification failed....I had read that it could be 2 things, one the MD5 was bad, I verified that, so that wasn't the issue. Then I came across that it may have been a ROM that my device(Samsung) somehow knew wasn't approved, therefore prevented it from being installed....OK fine...
Next I found a ROM that was going to work via installing...So i picked the CM10.2 and wiped/format/davik/cache...etc... Installation took a few mins...Then when I rebooted, it's been on the Cyangenmod screen for 45 mins +....
Is there anyway I can do some verification that something further isn't interfering w/my installs?
Thanks in advance and any guidance is GREATLY appreciated...
Regards
Erik
Odin to stock and try that, always the best choice
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Odin to stock and try that, always the best choice
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Actually I tried that and I used this one from stockroms.net TMB-M919UVUAMDL-1366964131.zip
the verification failed immediately, however, when I checked it w/the MD5 hash on my computer it checks out...That's where I'm wondering if there is something else going on...
Or are you talking about something else regarding stock? If so could you clarify...Thanks
Use sam mobile.com
And flash the mdl fw from there. Also you may have to unzip the original file to get a tar file
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aamir123 said:
Use sam mobile.com
And flash the mdl fw from there. Also you may have to unzip the original file to get a tar file
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Just wanted to say thank you for your help. Both the flashing the recovery back to default and the default ROM worked. Now in the future no more clicking yes when I don't have a backup
Have a great weekend!!
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Just wanted to say thank you for your help. Both the flashing the recovery back to default and the default ROM worked. Now in the future no more clicking yes when I don't have a backup
Have a great weekend!!
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glad it worked out for you, I know it can be scary to think you screwed up your phone.
Glad you solved it, ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP
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Glad you solved it, ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP
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This can nvr be said enough.