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New Hotfixes

Just FYI, HTC released a couple of hotfixes for the Tilt 2 and the Pure
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/

denco7 said:
Just FYI, HTC released a couple of hotfixes for the Tilt 2 and the Pure
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
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Sweet, thanks for the heads-up!

oh excellent! they fixed my two issues i have with it.

Sorry for this n00b-ish question, but...
I just see the 3 PDF files from the 2nd of Oct, '09. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
~Eric

eknutson said:
Sorry for this n00b-ish question, but...
I just see the 3 PDF files from the 2nd of Oct, '09. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
~Eric
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I had the same problem 'til I flushed my browser cache and tried again. refreshing the page didn't do it for me, I had to delete my browsing history and then click the link again.
HTH
Mike

Bingo! Thanks =)

This is NOT a ROM update and you will not lose your data. Also, these files will survive a Hard Reset so they need only to be installed once.
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i wonder what it changes to survive the hard reset.

The Jack of Clubs said:
i wonder what it changes to survive the hard reset.
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It actually runs kind of like a ROM update. It resets the phone then installs the hotfixes before at the AT&T World Phone splash screen with the ROM and Radio info before WM loads. Interestingly the Radio says "None" on that screen when the update program is running.

does the SMS fix helps improving the sense 2.5 SMS client running on the Tilt2?

if you flash a new rom you need to do the fixes again right? any cabs yet?

Hmmm, I wonder if this is utilizing the vastly underused Windows Mobile Image Update system. It sure sounds like it, but I can't test since I'm not on a stock ROM.
EDIT: It seems it is using Image Update! I extracted the installer and found two .cab.pku files. According to Da_G, this is what they do:
Update contains a binary delta between a package already on the device, and the updated version of that package. In this manner the limited space is conserved (i.e. if a package change was a simple registry entry - no need to replace the 5mb of .dll and .exe in that package, just alter the .rgu with the new data. These packages are also referred to as "Delta" packages. The concept is similar to the unix implementation of Diff/Patch. The file extension is .cab.pku
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EDIT2: I've extracted both .cab.pku files, and one gave me a single .dsm, while the other gave me a .dsm, a DLL relating to EZinput, and a .rgu file containing registry entries. Not very useful information, but still nice to see that AT&T is taking the initiative to use this underused Windows Mobile feature.

Question is how to get these updates installed onto a ROM other than the stock one. It seems to do some type of validation before installation, and refuses to install on a ROM other than the stock one.
I suppose chefs will have to cook these fixes in, or someone will need to create a CAB or learn how to mess with the Image Update fixes?

Just as a caution, don't try to apply these updates to a reconstructed ATT Tilt2 ROM (in case you flashed to cooked ROMS and then went back to one that is supposed to be like retail).
The HTC hotfix installation starts as the verification passes, but then at least on my device, it was stuck in a reboot loop. I had to flash to another cooked ROM and then flash back.

It would be interesting if we can find a way to update TouchFlo to the latest release using this method. That way you can update touchFlo while keeping AT&T's stock rom and not have to flash a new one.

jh20001 said:
It would be interesting if we can find a way to update TouchFlo to the latest release using this method. That way you can update touchFlo while keeping AT&T's stock rom and not have to flash a new one.
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Unfortunately, it's extremely unlikely that will happen with AT&T's stock ROM. Image Updates are signed, and are checked against certs that are cooked into the ROM. This ensures that only the OEM or carrier can release these updates (kinda like how ROMs are signed so only the OEM or carrier can release updates). The Image Updates will refuse to install if the certificates can't verify the update, and there's no way we're going to get AT&T's security certificates. So unless someone gets those, you're out of luck.

I installed the 2 fixes that where on the htc website but now when i go to the start menu i only get a 3 row menu, how do i change it back to a 4 row menu

Okay here's a problem, I installed the SMS fix that was on HTC's website, that went without a hitch, but when I tried to install the inconsistent Caller ID hotfix, it said it was incompatible with my device. I have the stock ATT rom. Anyone else have this issue?

Yep same here...stock AT&T ROM and getting the same error when I try to install the Caller ID HotFix....hopefully they fix it because I have this happen a lot with the CallerID not showing up on my device.

AngelDeath said:
Okay here's a problem, I installed the SMS fix that was on HTC's website, that went without a hitch, but when I tried to install the inconsistent Caller ID hotfix, it said it was incompatible with my device. I have the stock ATT rom. Anyone else have this issue?
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kizzle07 said:
Yep same here...stock AT&T ROM and getting the same error when I try to install the Caller ID HotFix....hopefully they fix it because I have this happen a lot with the CallerID not showing up on my device.
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How old are your devices? This fix might be for older devices. I had my original Tilt 2 replaced due to a faulty ROM or radio chip which would boot loop my device before the red version numbers would show on the AT&T logo boot screen. The version numbers on the new Tilt 2 seem to be updated. I would guess if I were to run the updates, I would be in the same boat...

mines less than a month old and the updates ran (att tilt 2)

OTA update notification received today!!

Hello!
I'm using a HTC Desire with a the "Pre-rooted Stock Froyo" ROM by teppic74.
Today I've received an OTA update notification from HTC, which I haven't accepted yet because it would probably break my ROM (by the way, it seems like teppic didn't disable the OTA update notifications in this ROM).
The size of the update is 6.34 MB.
Has anyone else received the OTA update? Anyone knows what's updated?
EDIT: As I've read somewhere, it increases the software version number to 2.29.405.14 from 2.29.405.05

ronaldace said:
Hello!
I'm using a HTC Desire with a the "Pre-rooted Stock Froyo" ROM by teppic74.
Today I've received an OTA update notification from HTC, which I haven't accepted yet because it would probably break my ROM (by the way, it seems like teppic didn't disable the OTA update notifications in this ROM).
The size of the update is 6.34 MB.
Has anyone else received the OTA update? Anyone knows what's updated?
EDIT: As I've read somewhere, it increases the software version number to 2.29.405.14 from 2.29.405.05
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Increases?
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Droidzone said:
Increases?
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Yes... increases... version number used to end in 05, with the update it would end in 14.
I don't know what changes in functionality this update is supposed to bring.

Hey i just received the system update actually its called "system enhancement 6.34 MB"
And i ofc clicked on yes, phone restards and then when the "package icon" aka the lets say progress bar starts it just stops and a "!" along with an android maskot appears... cant update, my phone is rooted tho...so, any suggestions or news to this update in general i would appreciate!
ps.i hope you get what i wanted to say

I've been seeing this in other forum when I googled it and looks like no one doesn't have any idea about what the update contains.. yet.
It's nice to see the good old Froyo still getting "enhancements".

Old? Sure. Good? Not by a long shot.

I only had Froyo for a couple of weeks before I rooted and flashed Gingerbread and never used Eclair sooo I'll take your word for it. Haha

If your using a custom RoM, you should never apply OTA updates.

@DroidZone: maybe citing the message just before yours isn't necessary? Just asking.
@shankly1985: you're not helping us who are dealing with this problem as I can pretty much certify we all know that: just read the original post and other comments.
I registered here to ask about this and maybe have an answer. The thing is I am NOT using a custom ROM. I am using the original HTC ROM that came with my Desire 14 months ago. BUT I have rooted the phone in anticipation of installing MIUI – I was desperately looking for a two-way recording of phone calls that never made it into MIUI. So I've installed ClockWorkMod as well as ROM Manager. I too have experienced exactly what @Drizzline describes. System update notification, phone restarting, exclamation icon that seems to be from ClockWorkMod and not from the OS.
My question is: how can I apply the system update, knowing that I have never installed a custom ROM on my device nor made any changes to the factory-installed – and subsequently updated – vendor-provided ROM?

shankly1985 said:
If your using a custom RoM, you should never apply OTA updates.
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And if you're using a stock ROM, you shouldn't either.
I stupidly updated my Desire and
calendar stopped working properly (events disappeared; luckily, I can see from Google Calendar's web interface that they're all still there)
every now and then an error message appears:
Error: com.htc.bgp has stopped unexpectedly
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None of the methods I found around Googling (clearing cache, factory reset) could fix this issue. Now I'm really pissed off and I don't know what to do, except waiting for another update from HTC.
"System enhancements"? Hah

@vodoomoth, Stop telling people what to do and what not to.. Who do you think you are, barging into a forum and being a pompous ass with your first post?

If telling that I think repeating a the whole post above might not be necessary when I reply with one line is telling people what to do and what not to do, then yes, I am a pompous ass. No, actually, I am a stupid arrogant pompous ass. But I didn't write the Netiquette, I just read it and it's pretty standard in forums. Sorry to be the one to remind you that there is no need to cite an entire message and reply with just one single word and a question mark!
I doubt you were talking about me telling shankly1985 that his "do not apply OTA updates on custom ROMs" was not helping. Oh yes, I am not the person who hasn't read the opening post where that concern is pretty obvious.
However, I don't see how my post is summed up as "barging into" a forum. I didn't know some behaviors were not allowed in first posts but only in later posts. Sorry for that again. I guess I should have not written a first post.
To other people, sorry for the off-topic.

desiredr said:
And if you're using a stock ROM, you shouldn't either.
I stupidly updated my Desire and
calendar stopped working properly (events disappeared; luckily, I can see from Google Calendar's web interface that they're all still there)
every now and then an error message appears:
None of the methods I found around Googling (clearing cache, factory reset) could fix this issue. Now I'm really pissed off and I don't know what to do, except waiting for another update from HTC.
"System enhancements"? Hah
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Why don't you root and flash a custom ROM?

Won't do it until my warranty expires.

desiredr said:
Won't do it until my warranty expires.
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it doesn't make a difference, all you need to do to restore warranty is use a RUU....

desiredr said:
Won't do it until my warranty expires.
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You can flash an RUU of 2.29.405 and return it back to the state it was before you updated. You can do this now to fix your issue, if you dont want to go the rooted way.

bortak said:
it doesn't make a difference, all you need to do to restore warranty is use a RUU....
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It actually does: imagine if my screen doesn't light up anymore. Then I would send my phone to repair. But I wouldn't be able to restore any RUU, since I wouldn't see anything and I couldn't be sure my phone was restored successfully or not.
Anyway, please, let's stay in topic... OTA update and its problems.

desiredr said:
And if you're using a stock ROM, you shouldn't either.
I stupidly updated my Desire and
calendar stopped working properly (events disappeared; luckily, I can see from Google Calendar's web interface that they're all still there)
every now and then an error message appears:
None of the methods I found around Googling (clearing cache, factory reset) could fix this issue. Now I'm really pissed off and I don't know what to do, except waiting for another update from HTC.
"System enhancements"? Hah
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"If you add a new appointment, and then delete this new appointment again, the calendar re-syncs and shows all your appointments again."
Check this for the discussion about it if you haven't already.

desiredr said:
It actually does: imagine if my screen doesn't light up anymore. Then I would send my phone to repair. But I wouldn't be able to restore any RUU, since I wouldn't see anything and I couldn't be sure my phone was restored successfully or not.
Anyway, please, let's stay in topic... OTA update and its problems.
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If you screen died, all you'd have to do is boot fastboot, and watch the RUU process and your pc screen, so you stand corrected as you would know if it's restored.
And I don't really see what all the hype is about.. I bet it doesn't even do anything.

stankyou said:
"If you add a new appointment, and then delete this new appointment again, the calendar re-syncs and shows all your appointments again."
Check ... for the discussion about it if you haven't already.
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The Calendar problem fixed by itself. com.htc.bgp keeps crashing every time the Meteo service tries to sync.
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If you screen died, all you'd have to do is boot fastboot, and watch the RUU process and your pc screen, so you stand corrected as you would know if it's restored.
And I don't really see what all the hype is about.. I bet it doesn't even do anything.
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No hype at all, let's just say I want a vanilla rom if it makes you happier
Please, let's stay in topic....

Clone htc one x - italy

Hi everyone, I have a HTC phone ONE X in my opinion cloned mounts ICE 4, verified by tapping the voice on the phone settings-info-version Android.
The phone has a recovery Spartan lacks many features (android system recovery 3e) I can not send Bootloader does not exist in the voice settings to remove the V-power under fastboot, so I can not unlock the bootloader and to recognize the phone in fastboot
pressing the power + vol-goes factroy mode with the following menu:
full test, test items, test reports, clear eMMC, version, reboot.
When you enter Version gives me these items:
BB Chip: MT6575
MS Board: g26
IMEI: ********** (do not put it on purpose)
Modem version MAUI.11AMD.W11.50.SP.v21. 2012/06/08 20:14
bar code: a number of 9cifre_6cifre
10th
I jump= Buil time
UBoot ver: 2010.06
Kernel: 3.0.13-g537b6b9 (htc-kernel @ and18-2) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC)) # 1 PREEMPT world jou 16 2012 9:45:28 CT
Android ver. : 4.1.5 (just says 4.1.5)
SW ver. : Alps.ics.mp.v2.7
Custom build winter. : 1342403151
IF I press the buttons powre + vol + enter into recovery:
Android system recovery <3rd>
Android system recovery utility
reboot system now
apply update from sdcard
apply update from cache
wipe data / factory reset
wipe cache partition
backup user data
restore user data
I wrote everything I have in my possession so far.:crying:
the phone comes from a Italian dealer who claims to assemble the pieces and original htc put on the market, I asked the specifications but does not give me any useful information.
The phone I was able to re-roottarlo with "Unlock Root" superuser installed juice defender + + rom manager (but it asks me for a version 2.X or 3.X manually installed to work correctly) selecting boot from the recovery above that described, if I make a backup always sends me there.
I tried to describe my situation as best as possible, I would like to see what I can do with this phone, if you htc and you can really montargli a romcook, how to unlock it for flashargli the rom, how to enter the bootloader, in short, what you may not know .....
Thank you in advance the pious soul who is interested!:good:

I don't fully understand your story, your English doesn't make it easy to follow
Can you make a screen shot of the Version page?
And make some photo's of the phone while in fastboot / recovery?

wph said:
I don't fully understand your story, your English doesn't make it easy to follow
Can you make a screen shot of the Version page?
And make some photo's of the phone while in fastboot / recovery?
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My English is translated by google Italian!
Do not go into fastboot, it is locked:crying:
for recovery looks at the post, it is written there, I do not know how to post photos.

Mastroaldo70 said:
My English is translated by google Italian!
Do not go into fastboot, it is locked:crying:
for recovery looks at the post, it is written there, I do not know how to post photos.
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I don't think you can post photo's or links, since you are a new member. What you can do is upload them to something like www.tinypic.com and type in the link to your pictures without the "www." part, so something like this: "w w w.tinypic.com" or "tinypic.com"

Is it a China-made Clone? The Chipy-type looks typical for those clones. How much did you payed? How much Rom does it own? What about Processo type and speed?
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Is it dual-sim?
http://www.mediatek.com/en/Products/product_content.php?sn=1056

I took a group of photos merged into one, I hope you see well.
http//
h**p://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/dsc00247kz.jpg/

Maybe someone just edit the build.prop ?!
Looks like it

Looks like your phone is not a HTC Onex
The info you have provided doesn't add up.
HTC uses hboot and fastboot. Yours uses uboot.
HTC kernels do not say HTC kernel in their info
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This looks like a cheap rip-off. I'm quite sure you payed somewhere around the 150 euro mark for that phone. No way you can expect it to have the same specs as the "real" htc one x.

Just curious which phone is yours the White one or the Grey one in the pictures?

By viewing your photo, i would said that it is "Keeping it Real Fake" version of HTC One X.. Do compare the rows of front speaker holes beside front facing camera with any One X images yourself.

Yeah, that's definitely not the real thing, would be interested to see what hardware is inside it though. Perhaps you could install this app and post up the output?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.uguess.android.sysinfo

bagofcrap24 said:
Looks like your phone is not a HTC Onex
The info you have provided doesn't add up.
HTC uses hboot and fastboot. Yours uses uboot.
HTC kernels do not say HTC kernel in their info
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Forgive me, for me the Italian translation, it is difficult to understand with google translator.
Are you telling me to use U-Boot to connect the PC to the phone?
colin_404 said:
Just curious which phone is yours the White one or the Grey one in the pictures?
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the photos are all from my phone, probably light of the camera, which looks different.
tgascoigne said:
Yeah, that's definitely not the real thing, would be interested to see what hardware is inside it though. Perhaps you could install this app and post up the output?
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At this moment I do not have the phone in hand, as soon as I feel is returned with this application and post the result, it's interesting to me to know what has mounted.
:crying:Last night, I made ​​a simple factory reset, to remove all my data, the mobile phone has restarted, in the Chinese language, but also putting the Italian language, celular no longer has a signal to call (gprs) and appears the written imei invalid. My mistake was to delete also internal SD, so I lost the backup, which I did, with the recovery that is installed. Now I'm really messed up, and I can not use the phone. I tried to give the phone to a friend, he is more experienced, I hope will help me.:crying:
If any of you can give me tips, they are really appreciated!

Mastroaldo70 said:
Forgive me, for me the Italian translation, it is difficult to understand with google translator.
Are you telling me to use U-Boot to connect the PC to the phone?
the photos are all from my phone, probably light of the camera, which looks different.
At this moment I do not have the phone in hand, as soon as I feel is returned with this application and post the result, it's interesting to me to know what has mounted.
:crying:Last night, I made ​​a simple factory reset, to remove all my data, the mobile phone has restarted, in the Chinese language, but also putting the Italian language, celular no longer has a signal to call (gprs) and appears the written imei invalid. My mistake was to delete also internal SD, so I lost the backup, which I did, with the recovery that is installed. Now I'm really messed up, and I can not use the phone. I tried to give the phone to a friend, he is more experienced, I hope will help me.:crying:
If any of you can give me tips, they are really appreciated!
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Sorry, but your device seems to be a CHINA FAKE.
It's not a real HTC device, its only a plagiarism.

How do I find out the hardware mounted ?
Yes, I realized !
one question, you can have a program to find out what there inside, such as hardware?
If the file has been modified build.prop, what I read on the screen is not real !!!

bagofcrap24 said:
Looks like your phone is not a HTC Onex
The info you have provided doesn't add up.
HTC uses hboot and fastboot. Yours uses uboot.
HTC kernels do not say HTC kernel in their info
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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Uboot. LMFAO
Sent from XDA App using HTC One X.

tgascoigne said:
Yeah, that's definitely not the real thing, would be interested to see what hardware is inside it though. Perhaps you could install this app and post up the output?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.uguess.android.sysinfo
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Mastroaldo70 said:
Yes, I realized !
one question, you can have a program to find out what there inside, such as hardware?
If the file has been modified build.prop, what I read on the screen is not real !!!
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why waste your time on this clone, it is what is.

no way this could be the original One X...look at the second picture, the one with the earpice grill.. Original One X has smaller holes in the earpiece grill..

[Q] viper x reboots when receiving calls

all the viperx version reboots while receiving calls! but sometimes it wont reboots....
i've changed it with other rom problem solved,but i love viperx more.... anyone know how to fix it?

Which one are you on now, the JB ? And if you are using the aosp lockscreen mod in the venom tweaks....turn it off and use the standard lockscreen. Might solve your issue

Also Make sure you have deleted the OTA update file from downloads folder.
Apparently recovery goes hyper if you dont (according to viperx thread )

A noobs solution
My One X rebooted on every incoming call, but it didn't do that from the start. So, I tried to backtrack any changes that I might have done to the setting and found that I had enabled “AOSP Lockscreen”.
After unchecking this setting everything was back to normal again.
Maybe this can be of some help to others...

webDing said:
My One X rebooted on every incoming call, but it didn't do that from the start. So, I tried to backtrack any changes that I might have done to the setting and found that I had enabled “AOSP Lockscreen”.
After unchecking this setting everything was back to normal again.
Maybe this can be of some help to others...
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Yeah it was a problem in a (very old) previous version. Its fixed. That's why this thread is from January

Mr Hofs said:
Yeah it was a problem in a (very old) previous version. Its fixed. That's why this thread is from January
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Wow, 3.7.0 (my version) is very old...well at least I didn't post a stupid question, just a stupid answer...

What are you saying ! Ow wow another sarcastic reply !? You have it on 3.7.0 ? Then just answer that you still have that problem. Did you install 3.7.0 with a full wipe ? Did you restore stuff from previous builts ?
I will advise you strongly to leave the sarcasm behind if it was ment that way in the first place. It won't get you far here. Then its better to give more info on your situation so we can come up with better solutions. I really hope this is a case of misunderstanding and bad communication.
Edit : I ticked the aosp lockscreen tweak and tested it, no random reboots on 3.7.0 what so ever.

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What are you saying ! Ow wow another sarcastic reply !? You have it on 3.7.0 ? Then just answer that you still have that problem. Did you install 3.7.0 with a full wipe ? Did you restore stuff from previous builts ?
I will advise you strongly to leave the sarcasm behind if it was ment that way in the first place. It won't get you far here. Then its better to give more info on your situation so we can come up with better solutions. I really hope this is a case of misunderstanding and bad communication.
Edit : I ticked the aosp lockscreen tweak and tested it, no random reboots on 3.7.0 what so ever.
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No, that was no sarcasm, I'm completely new to rooting phones and I thought progress was very quick and that my version had become obsolete very fast, or that I downloaded an old version.
I still have the problem, well not after disabling the setting...
I did a full wipe.
...but I flashed an old version, noticed my mistake, and then flashed 3.7.0.
The problem is that I know I did a full wipe before flashing the old version, but I'm not 100 per cent sure that I did it the second time. It sounds like missed it. So starting all over again would solve my problem? No short cuts?
Sorry about the misunderstanding!

Misunderstandings do happen in life mate, that's why i stated it as nicely i could
I think a full wipe and reinstall of 3.7.0 might solve it. I have a clean installed viper rom and tested now with several workcalls,no issue

Mr Hofs said:
Misunderstandings do happen in life mate, that's why i stated it as nicely i could
I think a full wipe and reinstall of 3.7.0 might solve it. I have a clean installed viper rom and tested now with several workcalls,no issue
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Sorry, but it didn't solve the problem. I still get reboots when the lock screen is enabled. Even though I swiped and reinstalled.
FWIW

Hmm buggers, i can't really help you on this because i can't reproduce the reboots. Weird ! But at least thanks for testing

webDing said:
Sorry, but it didn't solve the problem. I still get reboots when the lock screen is enabled. Even though I swiped and reinstalled.
FWIW
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I'm now pretty sure what the problem is.
It's a conflict between the "built-in" screen lock (like pin code or face recognition) and the Viper screen lock. At least on my phone it's impossible to run both (in my case Viper and pin code) simultaneously.
HTH

webDing said:
I'm now pretty sure what the problem is.
It's a conflict between the "built-in" screen lock (like pin code or face recognition) and the Viper screen lock. At least on my phone it's impossible to run both (in my case Viper and pin code) simultaneously.
HTH
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I’ve been a Beta tester for a an American software company during a period of 7-8 years and I’ve written some simple plug-ins for their web design software. So, I tried to use that experience to do some testing and trying to minimize the number of factors that could trigger the problem.
What I did was a factory reset, a wipe and then I installed 3.7.0.
Before installing any apps, launchers and whatnot, I tried running the phone with both pin code and Viper screen lock enabled.
The result was the same every time.
I then tried to enabled the two settings in different orders, first pin code, then Viper and vice versa, but to no avail.
My conclusion, whatever it’s worth, is that it’s easy to get a problem when two pieces of code are trying to manage the same event. Maybe it’s possible to find the line/lines in the code that might trigger the conflict..?
…or maybe Viper just don’t like Sweden/Swedes?
Well, with a little (bad) luck maybe some other people run into this problem, but there might be very few of us who use Viper in this type of configuration…
I don’t think I can add anything more than this, so I’ll leave this issue in the competent hands of those who wrote Viper.
Thanks!

Internet Issue only on some apps - XT1789-05

Hi Everyone, thanks for helping me,
I have XT1789-05, Some apps can't access internet and some apps can access internet, with WiFi or Mobile Data, nothing change, in another device the apps not working in My Moto Z2 Force, will work fine, even I have Moto X 1st, all apps work fine in the Moto X, but in the Moto Z2, some apps when opened error can't access the internet, I searched and googled everywhere, I can't find a solution, can you help me please?
I already did a clear cache, clear data, uninstall and install again, only some apps has this issue, it's a completely strange problem, for example, this app not work as well: Ziraat Mobile (This app for Ziraat Bank in Turkey) here is the Google Play download link: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ziraat.ziraatmobil
I can't add URL, adding by yourself, please
another app: Radio Javan
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.radiojavan.androidradio
please help me to solve this issue
one time I uninstalled Antivirus (Eset Mobile Security) as well, or any apps I thought to cause the problem, still I have the problem, I'm completely confused, please help me, I have one XT1789-02 and it's working fine with same apps, but my Phone XT1789-05 has problems!!!!!!!!
The Best Paul and Joseph Galvin (I Will Love Motorola Ever...)

Hi,
Did it work well before?
Did you do a full fw flashing before?
Have you tried to change the radio in *#*#4636#*#* yet?

mr_5kool said:
Hi,
Did it work well before?
Did you do a full fw flashing before?
Have you tried to change the radio in *#*#4636#*#* yet?
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It's a new Phone
No Full Flashing before or even now
I tried to change Radio, thanks for your trick, but it does not work!!!!
I still need your help

It's a weird problem. I think you should do a full fw flashing if you bought a 2nd phone. If it's a brand new one, I have no idea about this situation :"|

mr_5kool said:
It's a weird problem. I think you should do a full fw flashing if you bought a 2nd phone. If it's a brand new one, I have no idea about this situation :"|
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I have no Idea too, I'm going to crazy,

Have you tried a factory reset and use a different Google account? It could be restoring a setting or app causing it

Uzephi said:
Have you tried a factory reset and use a different Google account? It could be restoring a setting or app causing it
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I used new account no restore anything, I don't want to reset factory because, I have Internet Bank with a digital sign, and I'm abroad, can't go to the bank, so reset factory not a good option
thanks a lot, give me another solution please

AHMN48 said:
I used new account no restore anything, I don't want to reset factory because, I have Internet Bank with a digital sign, and I'm abroad, can't go to the bank, so reset factory not a good option
thanks a lot, give me another solution please
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I can't help further unless you cooperate to troubleshoot. When you are able to factory reset to nuke any stuck bits and start fresh on a new Google account, (not a secondary one you already have, a brand new one) then we can try pulling a log from a fresh install to see what is blocking it.
Edit: the factory reset would need to be followed up with a fastboot -w command to ensure everything is wiped. If you don't want to do this, then you cannot be helped.

Uzephi said:
I can't help further unless you cooperate to troubleshoot. When you are able to factory reset to nuke any stuck bits and start fresh on a new Google account, (not a secondary one you already have, a brand new one) then we can try pulling a log from a fresh install to see what is blocking it.
Edit: the factory reset would need to be followed up with a fastboot -w command to ensure everything is wiped. If you don't want to do this, then you cannot be helped.
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so what next?
I did several times reset factory
one time from Setting
and two times from Recovery Mode
Still has the problem on some apps, ohhhh my god, I'm driving crazy!!!!!
I don't know what's the problem, some apps force close, some apps can't access the internet and most apps work fine
help me, please

is it grey import?
AHMN48 said:
so what next?
I did several times reset factory
one time from Setting
and two times from Recovery Mode
Still has the problem on some apps, ohhhh my god, I'm driving crazy!!!!!
I don't know what's the problem, some apps force close, some apps can't access the internet and most apps work fine
help me, please
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Did you buy it online?
Besides the model, what is your software channel and build number for your phone?
i had similar problem and factory reset still resulted with the same issue. I had to do a full retail rom reinstallation and that fixed the problem.

harkoliar said:
Did you buy it online?
Besides the model, what is your software channel and build number for your phone?
i had similar problem and factory reset still resulted with the same issue. I had to do a full retail rom reinstallation and that fixed the problem.
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Yes, I bought it online from coolicool.com, this is first time ever I bought one Moto from outside of USA,
Software Channel: retcn
Build Number: OPXS27.109-52-10
Thanks for helping me

The model and build is exactly like mine when I first got it.
First off, I think it's how they flashed the rom that's causing the instability. Your phone would most likely have it's bootloader unlocked like mine but they did something to hide the warning message.
Please read my thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/help/request-advice-experts-tourbleshooting-t3928349
You will see that I flashed a retail rom using instructions from this thread. It would be step E of the thread. Worked like a charm for me in fixing all the unstable apps
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/how-to/guides-bootloader-twrp-custom-roms-root-t3805737
You will have to flash your phone so you really have to follow the step by
step instructions.
I did it for the first time in my thread, it's not hard to do step E if you follow it step by step.

Hah, mine was from coolicool with random issues too. Emailed them, no response. Paypal claim, no respond. Full refund!
Will follow the guide above.

Just check first if bootloader is unlocked. (That's step a). Before you proceed to step E.
I'm assuming it's already unlocked because we have the same issues, build and model number. Mine was unlocked when I received mine. Also from China/hk

harkoliar said:
Just check first if bootloader is unlocked. (That's step a). Before you proceed to step E.
I'm assuming it's already unlocked because we have the same issues, build and model number. Mine was unlocked when I received mine. Also from China/hk
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why it's unlocked?
it's not Original and it's not from Motorola?
I saw in bootloader it's flashing_unlocked and I was surprised why unlocked????
are you sure if I do these steps problem will solve and also are you sure after installing new stock ROM dual sim work well?

AHMN48 said:
why it's unlocked?
it's not Original and it's not from Motorola?
I saw in bootloader it's flashing_unlocked and I was surprised why unlocked????
are you sure if I do these steps problem will solve and also are you sure after installing new stock ROM dual sim work well?
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This is my pure speculation. the reason why its unlocked is because it was originally a chinese phone with chinese roms that doesnt have playstore. That must have been the original setting. Since they want to sell it to the international market, they had to unlock the phone and voiding the warranty, flash it with the new international rom before selling it.
Since its unlocked, essentially the warranty on your phone is void. The issue i found is that they must have flashed the wrong rom so its causing all these apps to crash.
Again thats all speculation and theory.
Now the only reason why I'm suggesting this method with you is because I had the same issue, I researched and tried the solution I posted. It worked for me. If you are going to flash a stock rom for the first time, you just do your research and do it one step at a time. Instructions have been provided in the second link (step E) including all the files you require to install the retail rom. It worked for me. I can only suggest, but it's up for you to give it a go.

I loaded the latest RETAIL (-05) factory image and all apps are functioning fine now. Issue was supplier had flashed -06 ROM, assuming because it said APAC in the description.

happy it worked
ben0551 said:
I loaded the latest RETAIL (-05) factory image and all apps are functioning fine now. Issue was supplier had flashed -06 ROM, assuming because it said APAC in the description.
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glad it worked!

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glad it worked!
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I was so confused during the last month. The random apps that were impacted by the issue didn't make sense...
Banking app
ABC Kids Listen App
Kids Daycare App
FuelCheck
Images on CyberFlix
Only one of the devs managed to get their app working for me in the odd state it was in. DayCare app of all things!
Thanks for posting, I wouldn't have thought to reflash or even look at the region code of the flashed rom compared to the compatible one.

ben0551 said:
I was so confused during the last month. The random apps that were impacted by the issue didn't make sense...
Banking app
ABC Kids Listen App
Kids Daycare App
FuelCheck
Images on CyberFlix
Only one of the devs managed to get their app working for me in the odd state it was in. DayCare app of all things!
Thanks for posting, I wouldn't have thought to reflash or even look at the region code of the flashed rom compared to the compatible one.
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Yeah it was so random, i really thought i got a faulty phone. Mine was all GPS/ internet related (Uber, Spotify, maps)
Nothing made sense but I took the research and decided to flash to stock rom, discovering they installed the wrong ROM and HIDING the fact the bootloader was unlocked. Definitely not your average issue and hopefully this would help other people who are in similar situation buying from any china/hk store.
I even bought the moto mods, and they are working perfectly after reflashing. Pretty happy with overall result.