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A poll to see who thinks threads like "THE BATTLE OF THE ROMS!" should be deleted
Hello - there are so many threads posting useless questions that have already been answered, and those asking what the best ROM for the Trinity is out there. This really gets my goat - is useless and as the creator of the above mentioned thread clearly said in his first post: "...there hv been many threads abt which the best ROM is in ur opinion, but none of them hv really continued and provided some usefull opinion..."
These threads pollute the forum - an otherwise valuable source of information - and make it more difficult to find the information that people want (especially for newbies). As a result they cerate a new thread asking their question - It's known as the snowball effect.
So I think we should have a vote on it: should these threads be deleted / moved or not? The comments in the above mentioned thread lead me to believe that nobody finds these useful - but let me and everyone else know please.
Nuff said! Time to kick ass, i voted that we should group them all, so that at least we have some funny thread to read in our iddle times. ;-)
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haha.. this made my day! great post nealed!
Everyone keeps banging on about useless pointless threads being created and I agree it is a pain but this is an open forum and I'm sorry but you will never be able to stop it unless a major overhaul to the way in which the site is operated is carried out.
You can complain and whinge until you're blue in the face but it ain't gonna stop so why bother?
Just ignore them instead of lashing out!
neomagik said:
Everyone keeps banging on about useless pointless threads being created and I agree it is a pain but this is an open forum and I'm sorry but you will never be able to stop it unless a major overhaul to the way in which the site is operated is carried out.
You can complain and whinge until you're blue in the face but it ain't gonna stop so why bother?
Just ignore them instead of lashing out!
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simply because of the described "snowball effect". I think we need moderators who are fair - but who do that - moderate - and make the forums what they should be - an easily accessible source of info for all - experienced and newbie users.
nealed said:
Hello - there are so many threads posting useless questions that have already been answered, and those asking what the best ROM for the Trinity is out there. This really gets my goat - is useless and as the creator of the above mentioned thread clearly said in his first post: "...there hv been many threads abt which the best ROM is in ur opinion, but none of them hv really continued and provided some usefull opinion..."
These threads pollute the forum - an otherwise valuable source of information - and make it more difficult to find the information that people want (especially for newbies). As a result they cerate a new thread asking their question - It's known as the snowball effect.
So I think we should have a vote on it: should these threads be deleted / moved or not? The comments in the above mentioned thread lead me to believe that nobody finds these useful - but let me and everyone else know please.
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Darn ..... you posted faster ...
nealed said:
simply because of the described "snowball effect". I think we need moderators who are fair - but who do that - moderate - and make the forums what they should be - an easily accessible source of info for all - experienced and newbie users.
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Agreed. But this puts extra pressure on the moderators, and until it is implemented (and it may not) there's nothing anyone can do! Do you see my point?
I think you're flogging a dead horse!
yea, watever, watever you guyz think, I created it for the benifit of others, and I dont know what you find so offensive or wrong in that thread, but watever you say guyz. a thread for those ppl who are new to these kind of things and are still confused after doing their research can come here to make a slightly better decision... i dunno why so many ppl find it offensive, i wasn't trying to create competition, or no such thing... wat is it that got you guyz so angry abt this, i have no idea....
so much of anger over that thread?? "polluting the forum", "make it difficult to find information" wow, wow, I didn't expect this to happen... so much of anger against that thread??? wow.... if its that bad, i sincerely apologize for creating that thread, but still why so much of this anger???
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yea, watever, watever you guyz think, I created it for the benifit of others, and I dont know what you find so offensive or wrong in that thread, but watever you say guyz. a thread for those ppl who are new to these kind of things and are still confused after doing their research can come here to make a slightly better decision... i dunno why so many ppl find it offensive, i wasn't trying to create competition, or no such thing... wat is it that got you guyz so angry abt this, i have no idea....
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AK - CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND:
1. New guys cannot find what they want - because of so many junk posts
2. As you yourself said - there has never been anything useful come out of asking people what the best ROM is or to say which one they prefer.
It's not gettin anyone anywhere - the info is there - maybe we need more stickies for the pertinant threads and moderators to dump the junk. Then we'd have a much more useable forum.
" a thread for those ppl who are new to these kind of things and are still confused after doing their research" that's the Wiki - and all can edit / contribute. people need to use the Wiki tho.....
alright, i understand, i get it... ignore that thread and bury it.....
lets get it over with, i dunno why there is so much hype against this...
so, i sincerely apologize for creating that thread.
Talking about useless threads....this one is the perfect example of useless waste of keyboard strokes...
yea, as if this thread isn't "polluting" the forum...
Roms are Roms, Depend On You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi to all brothers and friends, No one actually can reply to this type of question, what's the best ROM, its depend on each of us, for what type of uses, whats we are looking for etc etc..... All the cooking chefs as always do their best to share with Us, no one of us can pay these guys,
SO IF ANYONE OF US WANNA KNOWS WHATS THE BEST ROM SO BROTHERS "DOWNLOAD THEM ALL" AND LIKE US TRY THEM ALL.
Then decide by your own whats the best goes fit for our Mobile.
None offence, no anger, no mood off, Take your time and see what's U need best for yourself.
A BIG STANDING OVATION TO ALL GREAT COOKING CHEFS HERE. and also a big thanks to all members helping this Site.
Here here beautifully put beautyangel.
Peace and love to all trinity owners
I simply don't understand where are the mods to deal with all this mess.. It has become really irritating
Can we make one thread of all the mods to the stock 3.70.651.1 ? I would like to try my hand at making a kick ass rom but it seems that with all the updates and leaks and ports, Half the time of building it will be figuring out what will work. Please give credit to the DEV that created the mod. I'll try to keep this post updated at the top if this turn out to be a good idea. If you don't think its a good idea please tell me in a PM. No need in cluttering this thread up.
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Can we make one thread of all the mods to the stock 3.70.651.1 ? I would like to try my hand at making a kick ass rom but it seems that with all the updates and leaks and ports, Half the time of building it will be figuring out what will work. Please give credit to the DEV that created the mod. I'll try to keep this post updated at the top if this turn out to be a good idea. If you don't think its a good idea please tell me in a PM. No need in cluttering this thread up.
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Shouldn't this be in themes and apps? It's Possibilities.
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Shouldn't this be in themes and apps? It's Possibilities.
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Does this look like a theme or app? Its the development of a ROM development is a process right? The forum title isn't called "finished ROM's go here".
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Does this look like a theme or app? Its the development of a ROM development is a process right? The forum title isn't called "finished ROM's go here".
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honestly if you need help locating all the things that are "broke" because "Half the time of building [your rom] will be figuring out what will work," it's not a development of a rom at all.. it's just "thinking" about it. probably more suited for q/a or general
you basically want people to do half your work, which you haven't even started yet
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Can we make one thread of all the mods to the stock 3.70.651.1 ? I would like to try my hand at making a kick ass rom but it seems that with all the updates and leaks and ports, Half the time of building it will be figuring out what will work. Please give credit to the DEV that created the mod. I'll try to keep this post updated at the top if this turn out to be a good idea. If you don't think its a good idea please tell me in a PM. No need in cluttering this thread up.
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We don't really know what you're trying to do...but my question would be why do you need a thread with all the mods and roms and whatever for 3.70, when you could just find them yourself...Not trying to hate, but I'm just saying...
WOW first 3 post all about how its a bad idea. no wonder this place is so dis organized. **** IT!
All I wanted was one thread with all the mods that are built on the 3.70 build. Is there one organized thread like this? NO. Why do yall give everybody such a hard time everytime someone comes up with an idea? If a dev (I"M no DEV) wanted to build a kick ass rom, wouldn't it be nice to have one thread to goto to get the different pieces? Wouldn't it be nice to have a stock ROM to start with and mod it like you want to without having to flash a ROM that may not have everything you wish for or has stuff you dont like?
Want animations? flash this? Want this cool rosie? flash this?....
We did this with the moment and I loved it.
I'm not going to build the Rom, I was just going to maintain the thread by keeping the stuff at the top.
wrong section
The point is, if you want to create a thread to do this, create a thread to do this, not a thread asking people to do this for you. That is why people are being uppity about it.
And yeah, something like this should go into the Themes/Apps or General section. It'll get lost in here.
As far as the thread, I'd definitely like to see something like this come out. It'd be really handy. Once you start the list, like-minded people will be drawn in and will definitely help you out!
yamaford said:
Want animations? flash this? Want this cool rosie? flash this?....
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sure sounds like themes to me...
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The point is, if you want to create a thread to do this, create a thread to do this, not a thread asking people to do this for you. That is why people are being uppity about it.
And yeah, something like this should go into the Themes/Apps or General section. It'll get lost in here.
As far as the thread, I'd definitely like to see something like this come out. It'd be really handy. Once you start the list, like-minded people will be drawn in and will definitely help you out!
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Thanks Jason, Tell ya what. I don't think that themes and apps has anything to do with it but I'll give your idea a shot. Judging by the people that have posted so far I'll probably get the same response. Hope I can be proven wrong. By the way,,, for all the wrong forum post,,, Im pretty sure i said PM me and my inbox is empty. kettle meet pot.
I do agree with people being a little uptight about everything and flaming any person they possibly can. I do see what you are trying to do. I had an experience with a ROM made by someone in the g1 thread like a year ago, it was a stock ROM with a modded spare parts to install the mods you want and only the ones you want. but what you are saying is a good idea. Like in other forums they are calling it a directory with everything all in one place, for example http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
edit: maybe people are like this because of their learning experience when they got started? they got flamed for asking a noob question so now any time people ask the same question they do it? I think this is the main reason people are staying away from XDA or simply not saying thanks or anything at all. XDA is an awesome place to get info but defiantly not the place to ask for help or get an answer to a question.
I am not a pro user of these forums, but I would like someone, especially the Mods to make a thread about most popular roms of DHD and let people vote.. It would give one an idea of what rom is trending and what is the most widely used.. Sure would help ignite the competition too ..
If any such thread already exists on this forum, please tell me...
You can do it yourself...and you might be the first one to do so (i havent searched to see if there is one out there already...)
It is not done do the fact we are all tired of hearing the same question over and over again what's the best rom what's a solid stable rom and they all get closed. Each rom works different for everyone. What's good to one is utter crap to another and your topic will only start a flaming war hence the reason why such threads are closed. Only you can tell what's good for you by trying a few out or reading comments on the devs threads. Hmm I think I hear zels footsteps.
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Reinaldo33897 said:
It is not done do the fact we are all tired of hearing the same question over and over again what's the best rom what's a solid stable rom and they all get closed. Each rom works different for everyone. What's good to one is utter crap to another and your topic will only start a flaming war hence the reason why such threads are closed. Only you can tell what's good for you by trying a few out or reading comments on the devs threads. Hmm I think I hear zels footsteps.
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Might be nice to centralize it though. No comments, just a pure poll. (Not sure if there's a way to do that.) It might cut down on the one-post immediately-closed "which is the best ROM" threads.
A poll with no comments may work.
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Well there is something similar. Its not a poll.. but it gives a pretty decent breakdown on the roms currently available broken down into categories Jellybean, ICS, GB etc. It might help out?
>>> Development List <<<
fallenkirmit said:
Well there is something similar. Its not a poll.. but it gives a pretty decent breakdown on the roms currently available broken down into categories Jellybean, ICS, GB etc. It might help out?
>>> Development List <<<
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Yeah, I know about that, but I see a lot of threads opened that basically ask "I'm new, what is the most popular/best/favorite ROM?" The index gives a good list of available ROMs, but it doesn't shed a lot of light on how many people use each one, which seems to be what newbies would like to know (to help them decide which to install). Maybe a poll would cut down on such threads. I've PMed a mod to see if such a poll would be well-received.
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I am not a pro user of these forums, but I would like someone, especially the Mods to make a thread about most popular roms of DHD and let people vote.. It would give one an idea of what rom is trending and what is the most widely used.. Sure would help ignite the competition too ..
If any such thread already exists on this forum, please tell me...
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I completely disagree, bcoz u can't compare all the efforts of devs. Every single piece of their work is truly admirable. Whatever they have done is absolutely priceless.
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I didn't mean that devs work isn't priceless, of course that is commendable!! And its not strict comparing either.. I just meant that one should have idea about new trending romS and also how many people are using which rom.... I know one rom may be excellent for someone and crap for another, have probably flashed more than 100 roms myself. I am just taking about the current trend of roms
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I agree with a poll with no comments, just a simple poll with rom names allowing members to state what they are using, we don't need to know their reasons why.
One thing I don't always understand is people read threads, see what features the rom has but still want other people to tell them.... Just install it and have a look yourself! Most common case I've seen is in the Sabsa Prime thread as it's what I use, people ask for updates and then when one comes along, they ask people to try it out and report back if it's worth updating. Grrrrr!! It's your phone, you want the updates so try it out and see if it suits YOU. Simples.
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I see a lot of talk, but no one stepping in to start a poll? You guys do realize anyone can start poll as a part of the thread!!
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I see a lot of talk, but no one stepping in to start a poll? You guys do realize anyone can start poll as a part of the thread!!
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I have PMed the mods (since they would need to lock comments) a couple times. No response yet.
The mods say that locking a thread while leaving the poll open is not possible.
bananagranola said:
The mods say that locking a thread while leaving the poll open is not possible.
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I saw your PM yesterday and had been giving it some thought. It looks like my co-moderator has contacted you already and let you know that the system will lock the poll as part of closing thread. Even if it was possible to separate the two, I'd be inclined to close down polls like the one you suggest. While some of you might think a poll like this a good idea, it smells a bit too much like a popularity contest.
Some of you may already know that many moderators in other forums have a wholesale ban on "Best ROM" threads. This is because a lot of these threads tend to be a breeding ground for rivalries and disrespecting others' work that can degenerate into infighting and other nastiness. I don't want to be heavy-handed on this topic because I see some benefit to discussions that compare/contrast ROMs and kernels IF they are done objectively and with respect for others. The last part of this is the most important here.
You might have already seen comments that say, "there is no best, try it and see what you like" and that's true. We all have different needs and likes, so there can be no best, but some sharing of knowledge and experiences with various ROMs can be helpful to others. Again, all of this needs to be done objectively and with respect for others. There's already a thread in General with many opinions and nobody's been really causing any trouble there, so I suggest all of you continue those discussions there. Please... no "best" polls.
I'm sorry to threadjack this from the OP, but since the idea has been shot down, I welcome your thoughts on the matter. If you don't want to air it out publicly, my PM box is always open.
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Thanks for explaining. I just thought that a more centralized and easy-to-read format would help newbies who are confused when they first see that (seemingly endless) list of ROM threads that is so appealing to those of us who've been around a little longer. But I respect your position and it makes sense. Also, without the comment-locked-forum option, I agree that these types of threads do tend to degenerate.
With the Sprint variant of this phone, does any one have any ideas of a Apk and Mod combo that utilizes the camera to it's fullest potential? Anyone with kids will especially like this, there is nothing that rocks as much as catching those priceless moments on film. I'm on the stock kernel, JB (The Domination rules)ICS, and LIH (base and). My goal is quality, resolution, and bit rare. An advanced zoom would be kool also.
Any suggestions are welcomed......
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With the Sprint variant of this phone, does any one have any ideas of a Apk and Mod combo that utilizes the camera to it's full potential? Anyone with kids will especially like this, there is nothing that rocks as much as catching those priceless moments on film. I'm on the stock kernel, JB (The Domination rules)ICS, and LIH (base and). My goal is quality, resolution, and bit rare. An advanced zoom would be kool also.
Any suggestions are welcomed......
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Go to Q and A... Thanks bud
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Wow never fails lmao. This is crazy. Well
We love party, we just rock out,
we in here, Me no lock out!!!!!!!
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Waiting on op to tell us were all dbags for not answering his question and we'll be all set!
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Further Explanation
My questions does apply to the Forum Title. My questions relate directly to the Sprint variant of the SGSIII, and the camera. Specifically the development side to improve it. Development of the Apk. Is how program improvements are implemented and bugs are fixed.
A combination of the application combined with the mods are important from a systems standpoint. So my question is more than skin deep p. I apologize if this is in the wrong location, but Its not a joke. Mods please move, if needed.
Thanks for the support(previous people who replied here), sorry if I was boring you and wasting your time. I'm not a Pro like you!
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My questions do apply to the Forum Title. My questions relate directly to the Sprint variant of the SGSIII, and the camera. Specifically the development side to improve it. Development of the Apk. Is how program improvements are implemented and bugs are fixed.
A combination of the application combined with the mods are important from a systems standpoint. So my question is more than skin deep p. I apologize if this is in the wrong location, but Its not a joke. Mods please move, if needed.
Thanks for the support(previous people who replied here), sorry if I was boring you and wasting your time. I'm not a Pro like you!
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Still belongs in Q and A. Development of ROM not apks. If not Q and A somewhere other then here.
oh Heck yea IBFTL hahahaha
flame on haha
jk but those poor baby seals arent goin to be to happy!
That's depends what you like.
Fly-n-High said:
My questions does apply to the Forum Title. My questions relate directly to the Sprint variant of the SGSIII, and the camera. Specifically the development side to improve it. Development of the Apk. Is how program improvements are implemented and bugs are fixed.
A combination of the application combined with the mods are important from a systems standpoint. So my question is more than skin deep p. I apologize if this is in the wrong location, but Its not a joke. Mods please move, if needed.
Thanks for the support(previous people who replied here), sorry if I was boring you and wasting your time. I'm not a Pro like you!
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Your QUESTION is a QUESTION, there is a forum for that. What did you develop to put this in development?
Fly-n-High said:
My questions does apply to the Forum Title. My questions relate directly to the Sprint variant of the SGSIII, and the camera. Specifically the development side to improve it. Development of the Apk. Is how program improvements are implemented and bugs are fixed.
A combination of the application combined with the mods are important from a systems standpoint. So my question is more than skin deep p. I apologize if this is in the wrong location, but Its not a joke. Mods please move, if needed.
Thanks for the support(previous people who replied here), sorry if I was boring you and wasting your time. I'm not a Pro like you!
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And there ya go!
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Still belongs in Q and A. Development of ROM not apks. If not Q and A somewhere other then here.
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Thanks for clarifying the policy. I just didn't wanna clutter Josh's Thread with this question, cause I'm running his work.
shiftr182 said:
Your QUESTION is a QUESTION, there is a forum for that. What did you develop to put this in development?
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I didn't develop anything, my interpretation of this Forum was Applications and their improvements also. If its. Wrong then please have the mods move or delete it. Sorry to inconvenience.........
Amazing
It's amazing that when I originally posted this thread how many negative responses that were received because it was in the wrong forum area. I was flamed because a couple of idiots that had nothing better to do then criticize me. I'm new here and 'naddict' & 'Bambino' were the only members that were cordial about posting in the wrong forum.
Now, not one person has responded with any information about the topic itself. Amazing to see how much people love to hate and not to help. Read the Bible people, God's Word will help set you free! Help your fellow man in need, don't look the other way or show disgust. The two people I'm referring to are senior members here, what a joke!
There is always ten people to tell you that what you have done is wrong, but try to get ten people to help you fix it!
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It's amazing that when I originally posted this thread how many negative responses that were received because it was in the wrong forum area. I was flamed because a couple of idiots that had nothing better to do then criticize me. I'm new here and 'naddict' & 'Bambino' were the only members that were cordial about posting in the wrong forum.
Now, not one person has responded with any information about the topic itself. Amazing to see how much people love to hate and not to help. Read the Bible people, God's Word will help set you free! Help your fellow man in need, don't look the other way or show disgust. The two people I'm referring to are senior members here, what a joke!
There is always ten people to tell you that what you have done is wrong, but try to get ten people to help you fix it!
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First let me apolgize for my comment if it any way hurt you feelers bro , In Before The Lock is something we all do on the forum for fun and you took it way to personal I didnt mean anything by , others that know me know that is not my thing or what I do to people especially if I had gone into your thread in the proper section. So please take it for what it is worth , as your thread as/or wouldve been moved and your questions will be answered by someone especially since they are here in the q/a section looking to help or find help like yourself.
Again I apologize about my actions and promise my intention was not to scare you away it was all in good fun.
Thanks
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First let me apolgize for my comment if it any way hurt you feelers bro , In Before The Lock is something we all do on the forum for fun and you took it way to personal I didnt mean anything by , others that know me know that is not my thing or what I do to people especially if I had gone into your thread in the proper section. So please take it for what it is worth , as your thread as/or wouldve been moved and your questions will be answered by someone especially since they are here in the q/a section looking to help or find help like yourself.
Again I apologize about my actions and promise my intention was not to scare you away it was all in good fun.
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Thanks BigRitz, but it was not you who I was referring to. I'm not here to flame/bash, but let's just say rhyming in combat will get ya killed! Chances are I'm more educated then both of them combined. I'm not looking for problems just answers.
Flame on.......
well now its in Q&A so can we maybe get some answers (assuming their are any of course
LOVE the speed of the new camera and they have DRAMATICALLY improved low light performance AND ALSO dramatically improves LLP of the front facing camera.
anyway here is something I WANT SO BADLY.
Focus Lock. or Infinity lock. it still has "hunting" issues in low contrast low light situations (such as fireworks) really annoying. it boggles the mind there is no infinity lock or even a simple focus lock on such a powerful device.
I'm looking for a stable 4.4 which would be as stable as possible. The reason for this is that I use my Nexus for alarm clock and it's really unpleasant if I find it in SOD when I oversleep. I don't really need so much additional features, it's a bonus though, but it's more important that it's fast and bugless.
Are there any or should I stay on Cataclysm 4.3?
Well, you can only reliably know which ROM is the most stable by trying them yourself. That's part of the culture of XDA, to try ROMs from different developers and then to give feedback on them.
As for me, I just installed the latest CM11 nightly and it seems reasonably stable. Will test the battery life and stability for a few more days after installing some apps. Will try XenonHD next if this one isn't stable enough or has poor battery life. The phone does get hot when I'm running heavy applications and games, which is the only problem I have noticed so far.
Im running the CM11 Nightlies as well and cant complain at all. Havent had any issues with any of them. I usually update every couple days to the latest nightly.
If it's just using the device as an alarm, then CM11 nightlies would be quite enough. I've been using my own GNex as an alarm too.
Sent from Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE @ CM11
I've read through several ROM threads that a lot of them have have slowdowns and lags. Is that also the case for CM11? How about other CM based ROMs, like CM-remix?
Can't say much about other roms (aside from CM i've only ever tried AOKP jb-mr2 briefly), i'm on CM11 M2 right now and i can say it's smooth and has no hiccups and lags - much better than stock 4.3 and cm10.2 which i had beforehand.
I'm also using the device as an alarm clock and it works well.
Seriously? How many times do people have to be told that threads like this are against XDA rules. If you want a stable rom then try some roms out yourself and decide what you prefer for yourself. This is a development community meant for people that want to take the initiative to learn and do for themselves not a place for people to have others do their work for them.
Do some reading and you'll surely find the answers you seek.
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I'm looking for a stable 4.4 which would be as stable as possible.
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me too. cant find anything. CM blows, pa has graphics glitches and vanir gives me reboots.
tried em all and they all seem to suck.
4.3 is waaaay smoother for me.
a stock 4.4.2 build would be great.
if anyone finds any decent roms + a good 4.4 kernel (Franco/Faux) or two let me know.
Nephilim, sorry, I thought that it's forbidden to open only general ROM comparison threads, but I'm asking only for the ideas of pretty specific needs. You could also take this thread as a discussion if 4.4 ROMs in general are really stable enough for everyday use.
Not all of us have time to test every build of every ROM, because it would take a bit too much. That's why we have a community here to ask others for their opinion and experiences. At least that's how I imagine it, but of course, I might be wrong.
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not a place for people to have others do their work for them
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what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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No it isnt illegal. But these threads are pointless... There is no best ROM so these threads will never be solved/answered. And the devs work hard to build a ROM and then some people in a thread will tell him his ROM sucks and the other one is better.. Its personal preference anyway. And every ROM is stable otherwise they wouldnt be released on xda (except when told otherwise or in beta etc.). Thats the whole point. There are tons of these threads. They are just useless. Just try out a ROM and if it suits your needs be happy and thank the developer and if you arent just move on to the next one.
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mrgnex said:
No it isnt illegal. But these threads are pointless... There is no best ROM so these threads will never be solved/answered. And the devs work hard to build a ROM and then some people in a thread will tell him his ROM sucks and the other one is better.. Its personal preference anyway. And every ROM is stable otherwise they wouldnt be released on xda (except when told otherwise or in beta etc.). Thats the whole point. There are tons of these threads. They are just useless. Just try out a ROM and if it suits your needs be happy and thank the developer and if you arent just move on to the next one.
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acknowledged, thank you
iconicpaul said:
what is your problem anyway ?
since when is illegal to ask for some information ? i was also curious for some information about custom roms and i stumbled upon the same message from you several times
if i ask for any useful information.....am i automatically a lazy who prefers to have others do my work ?
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My problem is that if you aren't willing to put in the work and try roms yourself you have no business on a development forum. Asking others is just looking for someone else to do the work for you. Threads like this are basically spam because any info you need can be found in the threads made for each rom. If you are asking in a thread like this you are definitely lazy because you obviously dont want to put in the effort of finding the information by reading the rom threads. Mrgnex pretty much said the rest.
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My problem is that if you aren't willing to put in the work and try roms yourself you have no business on a development forum. Asking others is just looking for someone else to do the work for you. Threads like this are basically spam because any info you need can be found in the threads made for each rom. If you are asking in a thread like this you are definitely lazy because you obviously dont want to put in the effort of finding the information by reading the rom threads. Mrgnex pretty much said the rest.
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I'd fully agree with your comments, IF this thread was posted in development section, but it's not, it's in the GENERAL section.
So I don't see why NORMAL users(AKA non-flashaholics) can't freely discuss which ROM they prefer, regardless of stability.
BTW
I've tried out a lot of different/newer ROM's from 4.1 to 4.4.2 yet every time I've still went back to using PA 4.1.2 for over a year now, since no other ROM have the exact same great features I enjoy using daily.
Also I don't see why any Developer would really care if certain people dislike their ROM's, seeing as the whole reason they created one would be because they disliked the other ROM's available and wanted to build one them selves to their liking, many using the same features from other developers, just with their own tweaks.
Which is what I'm thinking I'll have learn to do since every ROM I've tested has some feature that's just not working as I'd like.
You suggesting every user go and test out every ROM just means there will be more individual threads created complaining about every ROM they flash/test.
So don't you think it's better to have 1 or 2 main ROM version threads in the GENERAL section to DISCUSS different individual Rom's in the GENERAL matter?
In other words if you don't really have anything to help out in the thread topic/discussion then just don't view it.
I personally enjoy reading about what others have to say, likely saving me time and headache from having to test out every Rom's myself.
I very much doubt there would be as many Rom's available as there are today if nobody discussed them.
Wasn't that the whole point of having an open sourced android OS?
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I'd fully agree with your comments, IF this thread was posted in development section, but it's not, it's in the GENERAL section.
So I don't see why NORMAL users(AKA non-flashaholics) can't freely discuss which ROM they prefer, regardless of stability.
BTW
I've tried out a lot of different/newer ROM's from 4.1 to 4.4.2 yet every time I've still went back to using PA 4.1.2 for over a year now, since no other ROM have the exact same great features I enjoy using daily.
Also I don't see why any Developer would really care if certain people dislike their ROM's, seeing as the whole reason they created one would be because they disliked the other ROM's available and wanted to build one them selves to their liking, many using the same features from other developers, just with their own tweaks.
Which is what I'm thinking I'll have learn to do since every ROM I've tested has some feature that's just not working as I'd like.
You suggesting every user go and test out every ROM just means there will be more individual threads created complaining about every ROM they flash/test.
So don't you think it's better to have 1 or 2 main ROM version threads in the GENERAL section to DISCUSS different individual Rom's in the GENERAL matter?
In other words if you don't really have anything to help out in the thread topic/discussion then just don't view it.
I personally enjoy reading about what others have to say, likely saving me time and headache from having to test out every Rom's myself.
I very much doubt there would be as many Rom's available as there are today if nobody discussed them.
Wasn't that the whole point of having an open sourced android OS?
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First of all, threads like this would not be constantly deleted by Senior Moderators if they were allowed. Next, I never once said that everyone should go and try every rom. I said that people need to go to the rom threads and READ, if the rom seems like something they would like to try then they should flash it, if not move onto another rom. Next, after flashing the said rom they are trying they can READ the thread pertaining to said rom to find answers to their questions.
You see where I am going here?
There is NO REASON for threads like this. All the information anyone could need can be found in the rom threads. If an individual needs to make a thread like this it just says that they are too lazy to read all the information that is already provided in multiple threads, available to everyone. If you want to discuss a rom then make a community on Google+, I already have done the same. This site is called XDA Developers. If you have questions about a rom then read the thread about the rom and if you do not see the question you have already asked then go ahead and ask it.
If you want to make a thread here in the general section to discuss a rom you have already flashed and are running, that would not be a big issue either but..... Making a thread simply to ask others to tell you which rom is most stable or which rom is the best serve no purpose but to congest areas of XDA with useless spam.
If you are here, you have either rooted your device or plan to, either way if you are here for that then you have enough brains to read and gain knowledge the correct way by doing the legwork yourself.
If the amount of effort you put into trying to debate my legitimate reasons why this thread does not belong was put into discovering roms for yourself then there would never be a need for anyone to make a thread like this.
Bottomline, only lazy people make threads like this and XDA is for forum for adults seeking to enhance their knowledge of mobile development by way of contribution, not a G+ community to request everyone do your work for you while you sit around posting screenshots of your homescreen and icon theme.
Not a thing anyone responds to me with will justify these type of useless threads. Every way you can learn what you need about roms has been mentioned in my posts and none of them require an entire thread dedicated to asking others to give you the answers.
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First of all, threads like this would not be constantly deleted by Senior Moderators if they were allowed. Next, I never once said that everyone should go and try every rom. I said that people need to go to the rom threads and READ, if the rom seems like something they would like to try then they should flash it, if not move onto another rom. Next, after flashing the said rom they are trying they can READ the thread pertaining to said rom to find answers to their questions.
You see where I am going here?
There is NO REASON for threads like this. All the information anyone could need can be found in the rom threads. If an individual needs to make a thread like this it just says that they are too lazy to read all the information that is already provided in multiple threads, available to everyone. If you want to discuss a rom then make a community on Google+, I already have done the same. This site is called XDA Developers. If you have questions about a rom then read the thread about the rom and if you do not see the question you have already asked then go ahead and ask it.
If you want to make a thread here in the general section to discuss a rom you have already flashed and are running, that would not be a big issue either but..... Making a thread simply to ask others to tell you which rom is most stable or which rom is the best serve no purpose but to congest areas of XDA with useless spam.
If you are here, you have either rooted your device or plan to, either way if you are here for that then you have enough brains to read and gain knowledge the correct way by doing the legwork yourself.
If the amount of effort you put into trying to debate my legitimate reasons why this thread does not belong was put into discovering roms for yourself then there would never be a need for anyone to make a thread like this.
Bottomline, only lazy people make threads like this and XDA is for forum for adults seeking to enhance their knowledge of mobile development by way of contribution, not a G+ community to request everyone do your work for you while you sit around posting screenshots of your homescreen and icon theme.
Not a thing anyone responds to me with will justify these type of useless threads. Every way you can learn what you need about roms has been mentioned in my posts and none of them require an entire thread dedicated to asking others to give you the answers.
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I would respectfully disagree. Not everyone has followed the entire course of development for the Galaxy Nexus from the beginning. It is hard to know where to start if you are just now reading up on things (as I am). People are trying to do their research otherwise they would just flash any old thing and then complain when nothing works.
In many other fields (I work in biology) it is very common to have a review article to get people up to speed on a specific topic without them having to read every primary piece of evidence on a topic because that is a lot of needless repetitive work that has already been done. It isn't being lazy. It is being efficient.
I stumbled upon this thread and found it to be EXACTLY what I was looking for and very relevant. Just a quick guide to let me know if it was worth looking into kitkat roms or if (as I suspected) I should stick with Jelly Bean roms for now since stability is also my primary goal. I can't understand the hostile nature towards people trying to educate themselves that seems to permeate xda sometimes...
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I would respectfully disagree. Not everyone has followed the entire course of development for the Galaxy Nexus from the beginning. It is hard to know where to start if you are just now reading up on things (as I am). People are trying to do their research otherwise they would just flash any old thing and then complain when nothing works.
In many other fields (I work in biology) it is very common to have a review article to get people up to speed on a specific topic without them having to read every primary piece of evidence on a topic because that is a lot of needless repetitive work that has already been done. It isn't being lazy. It is being efficient.
I stumbled upon this thread and found it to be EXACTLY what I was looking for and very relevant. Just a quick guide to let me know if it was worth looking into kitkat roms or if (as I suspected) I should stick with Jelly Bean roms for now since stability is also my primary goal. I can't understand the hostile nature towards people trying to educate themselves that seems to permeate xda sometimes...
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Apparently you have not read a word of what I posted.
There is NO reason for these type of posts because all the information you seek on a rom or kernel is in their respective thread. Even if you do not want to use them you still have all the review you need from people on the thread that actually used the rom or kernel, these threads are a copout for lazy people that do not take the time to read where the information is already easily accessible. These types of threads are spam, they are made by people who come to XDA and do not even put a second of time into looking through threads before just expecting that posting a new thread and asking about what is the best will get them all the info they need without any effort.
I have said this many times already, In school, when you have a test or assignment, does your teacher give that test or assignment to you and then immediately hand over the answers? Hell no they don't, they expect you to research and study to find the answers. As adults that is what should be done here as well, otherwise you ultimately learn nothing.
I use the official 4.4.2 gummy build and it is very stable for me and have not encountered any issues.
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