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Why did you buy Kindle Fire instead of Playbook?

Hi from the specs and quality point Playbook has it all and the price is 199.99 for 16gb. Compairing to Kindle Fire which doesn't have a mic, front and rear camera Bluetooth and other lots of stuff missing, what is the point? Playbook has everything and better build quality and even volume keys. It already runs gingerbread 2.3.3 in android player.
Please don't start a war. Its just a question.
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I'm going to hazard a guess that it was primarily because of the Android OS. Yeah, the Playbook has great specs and price point but it's sort of off in it's own little category with a much more limited amount of apps and media.

Buffet_of_Lies said:
I'm going to hazard a guess that it was primarily because of the Android OS. Yeah, the Playbook has great specs and price point but it's sort of off in it's own little category with a much more limited amount of apps and media.
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yes I understand, but the Playbook can be hacked too, its already running android in the player, it's just that if dev's made a recovery so we can flash roms it will be awsome.
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It is a reasonable question.
I never really thought about it to be honest, but when I bought the Kindle Fire the Playbook was more money, as far as I knew, and it was not native Android,
Additionally, I like Amazon - I have been a "Prime" member for years. So for $199 out of the box I get an ereader, with the few kindle books I own and free kindle books; Free streaming video, the Amazon App store, which isn't the Android Market but isn't too bad.
Also, I could see how popular it was going to be thus resulting in a large developer community and lots of fun stuff to do with it.

2 words. Native android. You can reason that you can "run" Android on a Playbook but it's not running directly on the hardware which introduces a lag which isn't noticeable but psychologically bothering to most people who could and would run Android on it.

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2 words. Native android. You can reason that you can "run" Android on a Playbook but it's not running directly on the hardware which introduces a lag which isn't noticeable but psychologically bothering to most people who could and would run Android on it.
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I am using it right now and it has no lag wahtsoever. i have the android market installed and i can install any app widgets from there. this just needs a dev who can hack it to put a recovery and rom thats all.
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TBH I hadn't heard about the Playbook. And my reasons for getting a KF are more complex and irrelevant to this thread. I'm glad you like your device though... it sounds cool.

Price. All I want/need out of a 7" tablet is the Kindle app, a photo/comic viewer and a web browser. The Playbook wasn't that cheap when I got my Fire.

thanx everyone for shareing
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samomamo said:
I am using it right now and it has no lag wahtsoever. i have the android market installed and i can install any app widgets from there. this just needs a dev who can hack it to put a recovery and rom thats all.
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samomamo, since you have this up and running on your Playbook, I have some questions-
1st, what about Amazon App store? Are you able to load and run any apps from there? I ask, because I have gotten a few apps from there that I'd love to run on the Playbook. Sketchbook Mobile and Gaia GPS, at the very least. Textplus Gold is another I'd absolutely use.
Other android apps I want to know about (and these are all free, which is one of the biggest draws to Android)-
Aldiko with ability to function fully (set up catalogs and download books directly to device
WiFi Analyzer
Angry Birds (yes I know, but it IS fun)
Words With Friends (again, I know)
Google Cloud Printer
Dropbox
Pandora
Tunein
Medscape, Epocrates, or Merck Medicus Mobile (one of these, at least, if not all)
I got a playbook, and yes, the hardware and specs are very impressive- much moreso than my Nook Color. But the Nook has all these running and thus has the edge.
Merry xmas!
These apps

Hi the thing is that it was running half baked not all the apps. I can install anything from android market but not from other places. So I gave up and sold it and picked up an Kindle myself. It comes out that if it doesn't have support form the devs then its crap. Don't matter what specs it has.
I have the kindle rooted and with adw ex and its perfect. The only thing bothers me is the lack of micro SD card. That's all.
Playbook has very nice hardware but no support so until it gets support its just a blackberry. That's all.
So I answered my own question
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Simple, BBOS is dead.

From the wikipedia:
"Due to low demand for the Playbook, RIM took a $485 million write-off to account for offering price discounts."

You can't flash custom roms on a Playbook. That's why.

Playbook
I almost bought a blackberry playbook several times. Was pretty tempted when the 64gb version went on super sale. In the end, the problem was the app store. There simply are too many missing apps for the playbook compared to both the iPad/iPod, and android market...and the android player has some significant limitations. Add to that the delay of the new Playbook OS 2 that was supposed to be out by devcon and was delayed till (at least) February and that was the nail in the coffin.
The issue with that device has never been the (superb) hardware, it's been RIM and the software side...
...and honestly, I'd be surprised if this time next year the Playbook is still being manufactured. Amazon has probably sold more Kindle Fires in December alone than the Playbook has sold since inception (that's just a guess, but I'd put money on it).

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You can't flash custom roms on a Playbook. That's why.
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I read something about it. It's because BB doesn't allow you to write in the boot sector, right? I always hope that someone will find a workaround.
I was recently gifted a playbook, thanks to developers' program. I personally think that both playbook/kindle simply lack of Android
Having it like a natively installed it is way better than having it emulated on Android Play. This is why I haven't even turned up yet. Sell or keep? This is the question!
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sorry for having unburied an old thread, I didn't noticed the date :/

Well, it may have better specs, but you cant beat Amazon's services. And Blackberry OS doesn't cut it for me. I HATE Blackberry OS and I hate the brand itself. I have had and used many of blackberry devices and I cant stand them
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Since thread is resurrected i will put my thoughts also.
1) Native Android
2) QNX still is a minority OS in market.
3) android inside the emulator is still a lot more to go.
4) COST
5) LOTS and LOTS of DEVS
6) AMAZON books and prime

I waited before getting any tablet. I ended up choosing the Kindle Fire for a few reasons.
1. Amazon (use it entirely too much)
2. Reading at night (reason I went with KF and not basic kindle)
3. Not too large or expensive (iPad is just too much and Galaxy as well)
4. I knew I was flexible in being able to root it and do what I want
Reasons I went with KF over Playbook...
1. Since I got my KF recently I was fortunate enough to know Blackberry is a dying breed
2. Root capabilities/flexibility
3. Amazon friendly (seriously I use this too much)
Those are my reasons.

Amazon instant video stopped working for you?

I have been using my Amazon prime to steam tv shows to my phone. Has been working great until yesterday. Now it acts like it's going to play, but doesn't play.
Anybody else watch Amazon from the phone? Anybody willing to try it for me? They have a few free ones.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ZBEQ3E?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links
I have done a factory reset, and tried it on stock Rom.
Thanks in advance.
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Same here chatted with Amazon and the answer is it is not a supported device and to wait for updates. Doesnt make sense.

Thanks for the response. I asked for a refund and they promptly gave it to me and cancelled my prime. I only bought it for the videos on the phone.
She also said they would have an android version in the future.
In the meantime, I'm using Netflix.
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I thought the issue was a "flash" problem. We got prime for shipping and instant video. Only way I could get it to work was to update flash. That was a while ago, and I haven't messed with it since. What really upsets me is that Amazon has been "talking" about an android instant video app for a long time, but they've yet to do it. However they *do* have apps for Kindle and Apple (may some game boxes?)!!!
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studentjunk said:
I have been using my Amazon prime to steam tv shows to my phone. Has been working great until yesterday. Now it acts like it's going to play, but doesn't play.
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Whatever Amazon changed, they also broke the Amazon channel plugins for both Plex and XBMC so just about anybody with a HTPC is dead in the water. There is lots of complaining about it in numerous different places. Below is the email I just got from Amazon customer service. They gave me a $10 credit just for complaining so I suggest they hear from all of us. They strongly imply there will be an app very soon
Regards,
Jack
Hello,
I'm writing to follow up on our chat conversation we had regarding "Prime Instant Video." I'm really sorry for the inconvenience.
I appreciate your support and patience in this regard.
I would like to inform Prime Instant Videos streaming isn't available on Android devices.
However, I’ve taken this issue about providing an option to allow Prime Instant Videos streaming on Android devices for our customers as feedback and have forwarded it to our development team on high priority.
We're regularly working on improvements.
We are trying very hard to establish ourselves as a successful online digital store and can assure you of numerous changes in very near future which will enable us to achieve our goal and Customer feedback like yours is very important in helping us continue to improve our website and services.
We respect your loyalty towards Amazon.com as a customer and hence I’d like to request you give us a chance to provide you the experience that you’ve always expected from Amazon.com.
It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all aspects. Your valuable feedback will help us to improve the selection and service we provide.
You can personally leave us a feedback with the link below:
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We had many customers with the same concern, Our development team is working on it and it should be available very soon.
Once this feature is launched the information will be posted on our website.
I request your support and patience in this regard.
I have also added a $10 promotional credit to your account.
The promotional credit will be applied automatically to your next order for any item sold and shipped by Amazon.
If you have any concerns. I request you to please contact us back.
Be assured that we are here to help and will do everything possible to resolve your concern.
Here are our customer service phone numbers:
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We're available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
You can also click the "Contact Us" button on any Help page, enter your phone number through the Phone tab, and we'll call you. Contacting us through the website ensures that we have your account information ready when we call.
Thank you for contacting Amazon. We hope to see you again soon.
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Ive attached a screenshot of the conversation i had with the customer service. They are using 11.7 flash for their videos. Apparently the fact that anyone was able to access videos via their browsers on android devices was not supposed to happen. Its clear it was deliberately broken
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GdgtGrrrl said:
Ive attached a screenshot of the conversation i had with the customer service. They are using 11.7 flash for their videos. Apparently the fact that anyone was able to access videos via their browsers on android devices was not supposed to happen. Its clear it was deliberately broken
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Which REALLY makes me upset. I emailed them with my displeasure and told them that I would NOT be renewing my Prime subscription which is due to expire this August.
What really makes me upset, and I let them know this as well, is it's NOT a flash issue if that's what they want to use as an excuse. If that's the case, then why is it that Apple products (iPhone, iPod touch, iPad) have had the Amazon Instant video app? Apple products have never had Flash on it as Jobs wouldn't allow it. And the Kindle Fire is android-based with a different launcher and no Google Play access, but yet it has Amazon Instant video.
I would argue that they don't want to hurt their Kindle Fire sales, but then why allow it on Apple products as well?
I hope they DO release it, and soon. But, at this point, I'm going to use Vudu/Ultraviolet. I haven't had any issues with them and they have an Android app that streams and downloads my Vudu/Ultraviolet purchases on my Nexus 7. It isn't in HD, but I don't need HD for my tablet and SD looks just fine. If I want HD, then I can watch it on my Roku device instead on my HD tv.
I say, complain to Amazon about this, but do it in a civil manner. No need to be rude about it. Just explain your frustration and let them know that you intend to no longer utilize their service until they do release an app.
I won't be purchasing anymore videos through Amazon until they release the app and I MIGHT reconsidering getting Prime when/if they do release it, but I told them I'm not making any promises.
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I recommend asking for a refund if you are not happy. They tend to be very gracious with them, and they gave me a partial refund on my prime membership. I explained that I only got prime to watch the videos. I'm using netflix again, which does not give refunds, but only does a month at a time.

I never really used prime on my phone to watch movies (I have hulu+ and netflix for that) Well, I just checked it out, and yup, broken using skyfire.
I guess it's time to fire off an email to Amazon and get an android version so we can use this service. Hell, you can stream on a kindle, and that's basically android (Gingerbread).

muppetman462 said:
I never really used prime on my phone to watch movies (I have hulu+ and netflix for that) Well, I just checked it out, and yup, broken using skyfire.
I guess it's time to fire off an email to Amazon and get an android version so we can use this service. Hell, you can stream on a kindle, and that's basically android (Gingerbread).
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That's my exact point as well. I've pointed that out to Amazon. I just got a reply which appears to state that they ARE working on an app for Android, but it's so vague, who knows. Plus, it could be the person who wrote it didn't use proper grammar.
Here's what I received:
I understand that having this feature will* provide additional convenience to our customers. So,* I’ve taken this as a feedback and forwarded your request* to our Amazon Instant Video team for consideration as we make future improvements and they’re working on it to make this feature available at the earliest.
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As I said, the grammar isn't perfect, so it's hard to tell one way or the other. Either they are saying they'll take my suggestions and give it to their Instant Video Team for consideration, OR they are already working on a solution and they'll still give them my feedback.
Can't tell. As I said, vague.
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It's a flash problem. That's why Amazon built an app for streaming video, for the iPad and later for the iPhone. But (IMHO) I don't forsee an app for android. I've heard that a lot of people are upset. I even slammed Amazon for it in a few reviews. Honestly don't think they really care. We're not going to renew r prime membership because if this. It's started right after android stopped supporting flash. I was P.O.'d but then found out that I could *still* install flash. Switched to Dolphin browser and played with it for a while. Then just stopped cause I felt that Amazon was being ver "Apple-ish" in their attitude toward android. I won't even bother trying out their free apps.
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Though, do keep complaining! And ask for credit! And then spend ONLY THE CREDIT.
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g_money said:
It's a flash problem. That's why Amazon built an app for streaming video, for the iPad and later for the iPhone. But (IMHO) I don't forsee an app for android. I've heard that a lot of people are upset. I even slammed Amazon for it in a few reviews. Honestly don't think they really care. We're not going to renew r prime membership because if this. It's started right after android stopped supporting flash. I was P.O.'d but then found out that I could *still* install flash. Switched to Dolphin browser and played with it for a while. Then just stopped cause I felt that Amazon was being ver "Apple-ish" in their attitude toward android. I won't even bother trying out their free apps.
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Though, do keep complaining! And ask for credit! And then spend ONLY THE CREDIT.
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Most of the people I know (myself included) have Amazon Prime primarily (pun intended) for the free 2-day shipping. The instant video is just a bonus. Yes, it'd be nice to have it work on my phone, but really I'm paying the $79/year or so just to get the free shipping (and I easily make up more than that in saved shipping costs).
That being said, I wouldn't mind if they made an Android app that worked on devices outside of the Kindle Fire line, but I can hardly demand it.

topherk said:
Most of the people I know (myself included) have Amazon Prime primarily (pun intended) for the free 2-day shipping. The instant video is just a bonus. Yes, it'd be nice to have it work on my phone, but really I'm paying the $79/year or so just to get the free shipping (and I easily make up more than that in saved shipping costs).
That being said, I wouldn't mind if they made an Android app that worked on devices outside of the Kindle Fire line, but I can hardly demand it.
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Topherk, agree with you that instant video on my phone is no big deal (though streaming on our tablet, to our bedroom tv's is *pretty* cool). I just think it's kind of a d**k move on Amazon's part to not provide an instant video app to their android customers? As a prime member I also remember seeing "free monthly book rentals". But, that is only for prime members who own kindles. I absolutely love the kindle app, used to buy all my books on amazon. Now I get them from google. Prime members who use android have been asking for an instant video app for months now....

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Topherk, agree with you that instant video on my phone is no big deal (though streaming on our tablet, to our bedroom tv's is *pretty* cool). I just think it's kind of a d**k move on Amazon's part to not provide an instant video app to their android customers? As a prime member I also remember seeing "free monthly book rentals". But, that is only for prime members who own kindles. I absolutely love the kindle app, used to buy all my books on amazon. Now I get them from google. Prime members who use android have been asking for an instant video app for months now....
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Our main problem is that it was working via a browser but Amazon broke it on purpose last week which has a lot of us ticked.
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iBolski said:
Our main problem is that it was working via a browser but Amazon broke it on purpose last week which has a lot of us ticked.
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I'm not saying they broke it on purpose. I would be surprised if anyone was having problems streaming video from their windows boxes. To be honest, I wasn't all that upset when kindle owners got an instant video app. It‘s marketing, and I understand that. But then Apple gets an app??? I assumed (months ago) that android would be next. Hasn't happened...

I agree. I have no intention of renewing my Amazon Prime; as when I initially had a separate account AMAZON suggested that both my husband and I use the Prime Share option. It was because of all the notifications on a few forums around April 17th about AIV that prompted me to try it on all of my stock devices(evo 2.3.4, Original Kindle Fire and SG3 4.1.1) I did a review on it, apparently its about time for me to do an update. I, too have an issue with IOS getting a dedicated app versus android...WHEN IOS DOESNT EVEN SUPPORT OR PROMOTE FLASH. It was nice having an option other than my KF and Netflix, but because of this deliberate non support(not just android, there is a dwindling list of supported viewers) issue AND the crippling Prime Options, there will be no renewal singular from me.
I've also kept my complaints as non accusory and suggestive. Oddly if you can view my screenshot of the conversation android phones were never supposed be able to view via the browser...flipside because android is so fragged an application is difficult to build. Geez, not even a beta and testing?
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I tried it again. Seems to be working again.
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Yep its working for me. I meant to post earlier. My amazon forums have been blowing up. Some people are still having browser and flash issues though. Smh
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What Amazon forums? Links please.
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I tried it again. Seems to be working again.
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Yup. It's working again for me as well. Wonder how long before they notice and "break" it again.
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[Q] Anyone get Amazon Instant Video to work?

Anyone able to stream Amazon Instant Video on the Galaxy Note 8? The usual side load flash and a compatible browser isn't working.
I have tried loading four different versions of Flash for ICS as well as Dolphin Browser 8.51 which supports Flash, the stock browser, Firefox HD with the Phony extension set to Desktop and Boat Browser. None of them work. Flash 11.1 loads but once you get past loading and connecting at Amazon, all you get is a black screen. The video never starts.
I'm still within my return period on the Note 8. I may jump ship to a Nexus 7 if I can't get this to work.

Same experience for me. I've tried stock and ×Scope Pro.
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Amazon must have altered something on their side. Its no longer working on my Nexus 7 or Nexus 4 either. This just started happening within the last week or so.

Wow. I guess Amazon doesn't want our business. If they did this on purpose I am canceling Prime and won't be buying anything else from them. I can't believe they would intentionally take away the means to sell their products with a healthy margin, in order to sell a product with little to no margin (Kindle). Stupid move. Whatever. I can buy stuff from Google and Newegg and others instead.
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I wonder how long Amazon will keep the iOS app around... And if they'll ever offer the same for android users... And why they don't.
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I wonder how long Amazon will keep the iOS app around... And if they'll ever offer the same for android users... And why they don't.
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Everything worked fine until a few day ago.
The reason there is no app or official support is complicated. All of these things like Hulu+ & Amazon VOD have specific licensing agreements with greeeeedy networks. These networks messed up big time in their minds by not finding a way to restrict content on old PC, laptops & desktop PC's & now they are trying to make up for it.
Now they are trying to extort as much money in licensing from everybody they can. They want you to pay as a subscriber, they want the OEM manufacturer to pay & they want Google to pay. Now they have the chance to determine EXACTLY what type of device you are using & discriminate based on that info as a means to extort more money from everyone. If you use a tablet, you can watch SOME Hulu+ shows, if you have a PC, you can watch SOME Hulu+ shows, If you have a Hulu+ licensed device with the Hulu+ app, like a media streaming player, you can watch ALL of their shows.
SImilarly with Amazon now, if you are using a Windows PC or Tablet, you get full PC Flash support, which means you get Amazon VOD, if you have an Android device, you get nothing now, because Flash killed off support & Amazon never had official support.
Even worse, you can get Hulu on just about ANY browser in the world, unless it is a browser on a Google TV device. This is because of the licensing agreements between the middlemen like Amazon & Hulu & the greedy & scared networks, whom are losing advertising revenue because people would rather watch older shows that took thought over their current mindless, low budget reality TV. The networks think you should pay a subscription & everyone involved with a device, even a carrier if there is one, should pay licensing fees & you should be forced to watch commercials, which is why they are also suing Dish Network for their "Hopper" feature, which lets you easily hop past commercials.
There is an iOS app because there were a lot of iOS users & they are more active about complaining & petitioning people than Android users are. Technically, I think we should all be complaining about this because of the Net Neutrality Act. They are discriminating based on browser, limiting choice & options for consumers. They stream their shows to PC's, but tablets are different in their mind, just as they say streaming to a Google TV BluRay player is different than streaming to your TV from your windows PC. It is a common task, using the internet & I don't think they should be allowed to make the rules in regards to what is a PC (which stands for personal computer) & in my mind a tablet can most definitely fit into that category.
WOrse even yet, damn Amazon has made good money taking Google's hard work & forking Android, yet they crap on the Amazon customers that use true Android. Plain old browser discrimination, if you ask me.

Thanks for the well though out response.
What I still fail to understand is how Amazon can justify streaming to an Android based Kindle fire, but not to an Android tablet. This is why I have stopped my prime membership from automatically renewing. And without Prime, I will be MUCH less likely to order anything from Amazon. I can't find the business sense or logic in this decision. It seems counter productive to me.
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Amazon claims we can access Amazon Instant Video through XBMC. I will try this later when I have time. Their response to my complaint also sounds like they may be working on an app for Android? No promises or timeline, but I am definitely getting that impression(?). I've copied both their letter and my complaint below (names removed). It's a quickly thrown together complaint, not the best written, but gets the point across I think. I encourage you all to write to them as well, to indicate your interest in streaming to Android tablets. The more interest they see, the more likely for them to put effort into enabling content on Android devices.
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Message From Customer Service
Hello ,
Thanks for writing to us with your query. I'll do my best to provide a thorough answer.
From your email, I've understood that you unhappy that you are not able to access Amazon Instant Videos on "Android" devices any more.
Unfortunately at this time, Amazon does not support Amazon/Prime Instant Videos on android devices.
However, customers were able to watch Amazon Instant Videos on their android devices using XBMC Player app. Amazon Instant Video utilizes the Adobe Flash Player but due to the recent changes/upgrade of the flash version made by Adobe, closed that loophole.
I also understand that having "AIV/PIV" feature on "Android" devices will provide additional convenience to our customers. However, please note that, the content we offer through Amazon Instant Video depends on our agreements with content owners. Device manufacturers has exclusive rights to the hardware and software that would not make it possible for Amazon.com to provide Amazon Instant Videos for these devices directly.
To make sure your feedback is heard by the right people in the Organization, I've forwarded your comments as a feedback to Amazon Instant Video Development Team, who will review your comments and will work on improvements to make these features better on Amazon.com
We've received many requests from the customers to release an Android app for Instant Video streaming and our development team is working on it
I also keep pushing for this feature myself. It is an important part of upcoming developments in our Amazon Instant Videos service. I appreciate that you wrote about this so that I can point out increasing demand for it. As this involves may teams and individuals, I'm unable to predict the current time-line.
It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all aspects. I appreciate that you wrote about this so that I can point out increased demand for Amazon/Prime Instant Videos on Android devices. Your valuable feedback will help us to improve the selection and service we provide and we're glad you took time to write to us. We do value the feedback of our customers and make every attempt to integrate their comments or suggestions into our stores and procedures.
Amazon Instant Video development team is regularly in touch with the manufacturers to make more devices (OR Models) compatible with Amazon/Prime Instant Videos. Devices not compatible now, may become compatible in future.
You may have noticed some major wins for our customers, now that XBox 360, iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, Wii & Wiiu became compatible recently with more to come based on customer requests. With that kind of proliferation there's a significant increase in pressure to get more devices/models added.* If there is any update it will be directly posted on our website.
-----If you still need any further assistance related to Amazon Instant Video, then please contact us via phone, chat or email by using the link below, so we can help you appropriately.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/contact-us/digital-video.html
Please know that our customer's satisfaction and their convenience is very important to us above all else, it's the foundation on which our company was built.
I would've really loved to have this resolved to your benefit if only there was another way however as I hope you'd understand, we do go through certain protocols and processes to hopefully meet your needs in the best and fastest way possible.
I am very sorry that we were not able to meet your expectations this time but be assured that we always endeavor to assist our valued customer like you with the best of our service and we'll continue working hard to ensure that we provide the quality support you expect from us.
Thank you for your interest in Amazon Instant Videos. We appreciate your patience in this matter and thanks for the time you took to write to us.
Best regards,
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Thank you.
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Comments:I am an Amazon Prime member. I have ordered over $8,500 purchases in the last 6 months.
I have used my Prime account for a year and a half. During this time I have accessed Prime videos on my Android based tablet. This apparently is no longer available. Therefore I have stopped my Prime membership from automatically renewing. I'm sure you are aware that the Prime membership has encouraged me to make more of my purchases from Amazon. I'm sure you will understand that without Prime, I will be shopping elsewhere.
I am aware that Amazon Instant Video can be accessed on the Kindle Fire, which is another Android tablet. Not allowing the same access on competing Android tablets is alienating your customers. It gives an impression of discriminating in favor of your own device.
I am aware that Amazon Instant Video is available on IOS tablets. I have an iPad 3. However I do not like to watch videos on a 4:3 aspect ratio device. I have Amazon Instant Video available on my TV, my Roku, and on my Vizio Co-Star Google TV device. My preferred method of streaming videos when not sitting Iin my living room is still by using my Android tablet. The perception that Amazon is discriminating against competing Android products is why I will not be renewing my Prime account, and why Amazon will lose over $10,000 worth of business per year from just this one customer.
I ask you to ask your business development department just one question;
"Was disabling content from Android devices worth losing over $10,000 per year per customer worth it? Is loosing more than $10,000 per year per customer a good strategy?"
I am aware that Amazon never did officially support Amazon Instant Video on Android tablets. However, unofficial support was enough to encourage me and doubtless others to sign up for Prime and increase their spending. The loss of this unofficial support will result in not only the loss of the new business it has created, but loss of the limited business we have had with Amazon prior to Prime membership.
If I was a stock holder, I would have to question Amazon's business strategy and future.
As a customer, I only have to choose another supplier. It is a shame. I have enjoyed many Amazon products and services over the years.
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WARNING about XBMC
Hey...be careful with installing XBMC. I did and now my system won't unlock.
I sideloaded the latest nightly of XMBC and was refreshing repository when it froze. Now I get to the lockscreen, there is an indication that "power saving mode is enabled" and it freezes within 10 seconds of unlocking/startup. May just be coincidental...
I am rooted via framaroot.apk.
EDIT: Ended up having to reboot into the stock recovery and reset the device to factory to get out the of loop. And I returned it to the store.

Thanks for the heads up, much appreciated. I will try it on an older tablet I don't mind resetting. I can't take that chance on the Note 8, I'm already heavily relying on it at work.
FYI I already tried Plex (which is similar to XBMC), but the Amazon plug in does not work. I also tried the Amazon plugin for Playon, and I can get further with that; I can see the list of categories of movies and tv shows, but I have not successfully streamed anything so far. I suspect it will not work, but I need to try some more before I give up.
PSsisterchick: wait with the purchase of the Nexus 7, Google is rumored to announce the next generation of the Nexus 7 in 3 weeks at Google I/O. It's only a rumor, but a likely one.
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kisrita said:
Thanks for the heads up, much appreciated. I will try it on an older tablet I don't mind resetting. I can't take that chance on the Note 8, I'm already heavily relying on it at work.
FYI I already tried Plex (which is similar to XBMC), but the Amazon plug in does not work. I also tried the Amazon plugin for Playon, and I can get further with that; I can see the list of categories of movies and tv shows, but I have not successfully streamed anything so far. I suspect it will not work, but I need to try some more before I give up.
PSsisterchick: wait with the purchase of the Nexus 7, Google is rumored to announce the next generation of the Nexus 7 in 3 weeks at Google I/O. It's only a rumor, but a likely one.
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Thanks, kisirta. That's what I'm thinking too. Nightlies of CM 10.1 have just come out for my old modded Nook Color. I'll put the old girl back to work until we see what happens at Goodle I/O.

Well I can confirm that Amazon Instant Video does not work through XBMC either. In trying to install the Amazon Instant Video plugin for XBMC, I came across many, many forum posts and articles about how it used to work, but Amazon "fixed it" so it no longer works. It appears Amazon thought I was another XBMC user complaining about the access that was cut off. Since I had said nothing about XBMC, I thought they were telling me that some people were using XBMC to stream Amazon videos successfully, but it appears the reference just a cut and paste canned response to the XBMC users who previously had been streaming Amazon videos, and were complaining that they couldn't do so any more. And I actually thought Amazon was trying to do something about the loss of access. They apparently do not care. They are obviously receiving many complaints, and they can't do better than cut and paste responses aimed at a completely different group of people. I guess I had given them more credit than they deserve. No more Amazon for me. I'm thoroughly disgusted with them.
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I've been writing amazon for a long time asking for an app. I'd become accustomed to watching through the stock browser with mobile flash, but there was always a tiny loss of audio/video sync that was just bad enough to annoy that was never present when I had the old fire apk running on a Nook Tablet. I wasn't angry at the time, then they cut off browser access a few days ago, despite promising on their device page that any computer with an internet connection could access prime streaming. Well guess what, my transformer is a computer with an internet connection. Promise broken.
When I told them off for neglecting an android app and then actively and hostilely blocking perfectly capable browsers just because they were on android, they thanked me for my suggestion that android browser support be added to prime streaming :facepalm:

Puffin browser seems to work. At least it starts the video anyway. Some comments at the Nexus 7 forum indicate it is choppy, I don't know if it will play any better on our devices, I can't test it right now. But I can confirm that it is able to at least start the video.
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Interesting...curious to know if Puffin will work for you. I returned by Note 8 to the store because it was acting unstable and getting pretty hot in the process and I was within my 15-day window at Best Buy...but I miss it. I found I really liked the pen. I may have to give it another chance.

I tried it on both the Note 8 and my ancient original Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Puffin browser does stream the video, but it's choppy on both devices, though much much less so on the Note 8. The audio was badly out of synch on both devices, so much so that I only watched a few minutes of the video (Nemesis). This is not an acceptable alternative.
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I was able to stream a non HD Amazon Instant Video TV episode to the Note 8 using Playon. It is a little slow going at first and stuttered initially, but then was streaming good quality. I dont know if pause, rewind and FF work, I didnt test those. Just wanted to let everyone know there is this option. (Technicaly Puffin is another option, but it's not good enough to be worth it.) Neither app is free, but both come with a trial. You must have Playon installed and running on your PC to stream to your Android tablet.
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Install xbmc. Not only does it do amazon prime without problems, you get the benefit of much more content. Do a google search for xbmc and you will have to sideload. Enjoy...
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tremblayb said:
Install xbmc. Not only does it do amazon prime without problems, you get the benefit of much more content. Do a google search for xbmc and you will have to sideload. Enjoy...
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Just to confirm...you installed XBMC on Note 8 and streamed Amazon Instant Video? When tried a couple of weeks ago it didn't work.

Wow, I stand corrected. I just went in and tried it again in xbmc and it appears that amazon is now blocking it. Bastards... oh well, back to drawing board. Sorry for the confusion but I had it working on ipad, samsung galaxy note and appletv. Sorry for the confusion...
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[Q] Prime Music is here! Update coming?

Prime Music is finally here, I wonder if an update for the Fire Tv is near? I can't seem to find any music option on my Fire Tv, I guess my update block must be working...hopefully some other way to get access without unblocking.

I put my money on an update coming June 18th. That's the day Amazon is launching their smartphone. I'd imagine the Fire TV will interact with the phone in some way, so the Fire TV will need to be updated. We'll probably get Prime Music, CloudPlayer, and FreeTime along with smartphone interaction capabilities all at the same time.

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I put my money on an update coming June 18th. That's the day Amazon is launching their smartphone. I'd imagine the Fire TV will interact with the phone in some way, so the Fire TV will need to be updated. We'll probably get Prime Music, CloudPlayer, and FreeTime along with smartphone interaction capabilities all at the same time.
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Amazon is making a smartphone? My iPhone 5 is aging rapidly and I've more or less decided to ditch iOS next round...maybe I'll have a looksee at their new product.

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Amazon is making a smartphone? My iPhone 5 is aging rapidly and I've more or less decided to ditch iOS next round...maybe I'll have a looksee at their new product.
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A better bet would be the M8 or Nexus 5(6 maybe?). Amazon smartphone will have a pretty limited market where as the others will have Google Play store and Amazon App store if you want.

CiDhed said:
A better bet would be the M8 or Nexus 5(6 maybe?). Amazon smartphone will have a pretty limited market where as the others will have Google Play store and Amazon App store if you want.
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I appreciate the tip! I've grown incredibly tired of Apple's bull**** and the iTunes App Store's insane restrictive policies. I want a phone that isn't locked down like the stock iOS is. It's frustrating as hell.

deanemj said:
I appreciate the tip! I've grown incredibly tired of Apple's bull**** and the iTunes App Store's insane restrictive policies. I want a phone that isn't locked down like the stock iOS is. It's frustrating as hell.
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Kindles are pretty locked down compared to standard Android phones. Go Nexus or someone with factory bootloader unlock support for the best experience. The M8 is a great stepping stone into the world of Android phones for people coming from the iPhone. Like I said, you can use Amazon Music, Amazon App Store, Google Music, Google Play Store and just about everything other than Amazon Prime Video on a standard Android phone.
It looks like iOS is making some much needed improvements in the next release. Hopefully they get it right, competition is great for us.

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A better bet would be the M8 or Nexus 5(6 maybe?). Amazon smartphone will have a pretty limited market where as the others will have Google Play store and Amazon App store if you want.
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I appreciate the tip! I've grown incredibly tired of Apple's bull**** and the iTunes App Store's insane restrictive policies. I want a phone that isn't locked down like the stock iOS is. It's frustrating as hell.
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Kindles are pretty locked down compared to standard Android phones. Go Nexus or someone with factory bootloader unlock support for the best experience. The M8 is a great stepping stone into the world of Android phones for people coming from the iPhone. Like I said, you can use Amazon Music, Amazon App Store, Google Music, Google Play Store and just about everything other than Amazon Prime Video on a standard Android phone.
It looks like iOS is making some much needed improvements in the next release. Hopefully they get it right, competition is great for us.
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Perhaps creating a new thread on phones or pm'ing each other might be a better option than derailing this one? Nothing personal, just seems to be happening a lot around here.
To stay on topic, has anyone had any luck with getting prime music to work on the fire tv? I was able to sideload and update the app, but it doesn't seem to be working well...

No Prime Stations? Seriously?!?

I bought the Amazon phone partially because of the great price (I was due to renew my prime membership at $99 anyway) and because I am a serious Amazon fan. I switched from an iPhone 5S, where my new favorite feature was Prime Stations. I assumed that the Amazon Fire Phone would support the Amazon Prime Station feature. Well it doesn't. I even used the Mayday feature because I assumed that I had just missed it. They confirmed that the Fire Phone does not support Prime Stations. To make it worse I checked the Google Play store. A standard Android phone CAN download "Amazon Music with Prime Music" that supports Prime Stations. Of course the play stores says that the app is not compatible with my device, great...
I assume that the feature is coming in the near future, but what does that say about Amazon's faith in the Fire Phone? Standard Android phones and iPhones get Prime features before the Amazon Phone. Is this going to be the trend?

Honestly I never noticed that prime stations were missing... I just checked my SGS3 and your right. Kinda a let down but there are many good alternatives out there for the time being.. Though let's be honest I think we all know Amazon doesn't support the fire phone as much as we had hoped. Though the low sales numbers are more than likely to blame. As happy as I am with the current update most of us would have probably expected Lollipop at this point.
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Sxybob said:
I bought the Amazon phone partially because of the great price (I was due to renew my prime membership at $99 anyway) and because I am a serious Amazon fan. I switched from an iPhone 5S, where my new favorite feature was Prime Stations. I assumed that the Amazon Fire Phone would support the Amazon Prime Station feature. Well it doesn't. I even used the Mayday feature because I assumed that I had just missed it. They confirmed that the Fire Phone does not support Prime Stations. To make it worse I checked the Google Play store. A standard Android phone CAN download "Amazon Music with Prime Music" that supports Prime Stations. Of course the play stores says that the app is not compatible with my device, great...
I assume that the feature is coming in the near future, but what does that say about Amazon's faith in the Fire Phone? Standard Android phones and iPhones get Prime features before the Amazon Phone. Is this going to be the trend?
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yeah. I had an iPhone for a bit and I switched over before you could just click a song and listen to it. When I first got my fire phone you still had to add it to the library before listening. That was weird. I don't doubt the update will come soon but I do hate that they don't update the fire phone apps before other apps. They should support their own hardware first!!!

Amazon finally released an update to Prime Music with the Prime Stations function.