Okay... did I misunderstand, or does Link2SD simply not move data? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm just not having a lucky day with my Xperia Play.
My system already crashed, leaving a lot of my save data locked in a CWM backup I couldn't break into... and now I've even lost that. So I'm pretty much starting all over with my Xperia Play... and I thought "What better a time than now to give Link2SD a shot?"
Major things that had me interested in this were those times where bastards like Gameloft or Dvide Arts decided it was a good idea to suck 20+MB off our devices in the form of /data/data so that we couldn't get it off our card. And now that I finally went through all the trouble minitool partitions and such... it seems I'm not able to move the application data to that second SD partition.
Am I doing something wrong? I'd really love to just be able to go install crazy without ever having to worry about space again... but if Link2SD can only move the bulk of installation without data, it's just another pointless app to me.

Link2SD doesn't link an app's data, only the apk itself, the lib files, and the dalvik caches

Okay, I made a very, very wrong assertion about Link2SD earlier.
Indeed, it does not move SD data... but moving all those little accumulations of 356KB-5MB to the SD for my other installs is AMAZING. I do still wish I could give Gameloft the middle finger by sending their shady /data/data consumption trickery to the SD, but this is letting me stockpile on apps like nobody's business.

How would you moved things that you have linked to the second partition on a new SD card?

KindaUndisputed said:
How would you moved things that you have linked to the second partition on a new SD card?
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Not sure, but that is a damn fine question as I'm thinking about moving up from 32GB to 64GB.

Yeah, I've just ordered my 64GB. The only thing I can think of is either trying to access the files in the second partition from the computer (then try copy and paste) or removing the link of all the apps and then relinking them with the new micro SD card
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Nandroid backups take a backup of the sd-ext partition, which can be restored to a new SD card as long as the new card is partitioned as well

Nandroid backup?
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KindaUndisputed said:
Nandroid backup?
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I'm unfamiliar with that terminology as well, but I do see that the partitioning tool I used (Minitool) has some very clear cut options to clone and copy, given that the new flash drive has unallocated space, so it should be a pretty easy process.
...if I'm right, all we'd have to do is delete the default partition on the 64GB, copy the two SD partitions from the 32GB to the 64GB and (obviously) extend them to take advantage of the larger card.

A nandroid backup is the backup ClockworkMod Recovery takes. Can you access recovery?

Yeah I can, where do you back up from there?
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Go into recovery, select "backup and restore", then "backup". I would've thought it was self explanatory. When restoring the sd-ext data, choose advanced restore so you can restore that specific sd-ext data without overwriting any other partitions such as /data or /system

Does that backup the second partition on the SD card as well though? I'm assuming you go into advanced restore to restore it.
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The second partition? That IS sd-ext. The MicroSD card's first partition doesn't get backed up, as it doesn't need to be

Do you restore it in advanced restore?
Edit: seen your above post now. No need to answer this
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How do you delete a backup?
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KindaUndisputed said:
How do you delete a backup?
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You delete a backup by going into the SD card, navigating to /clockworkmod/backup/ then selecting the backup's folder and deleting it

Thanks for all your help!
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You're quite welcome

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Out of memory errors

Using opendesire rom, and now my internal free memory is 9% and its shutting down my Widgets. I've moved everything I can to the SD card. What else can I do?
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App2sd?
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Tried that. It can't find anything to move.
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Android system info says I have 147.62 MB Max internal memory. Is this correct or can it be upped with a different rom?
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Well your widgets do not work because you moved them to the SD card...
Moved to Q&A. Please don't post question threads in Development.
Left Widgets on phone.
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you use Froyo App2SD which does not move the whole app to the SD card and some apps, like Widgets, don't work if moved at all.
If you need more free space use APP2SD+ instead, which natively is supported by OpenDesire, you just need a proper EXT partition and have to completely re-flash the ROM.
Please point me to more details on how to do that.
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backup your phone apps using Titanium Backup or MyBackup Pro, do a Nandroid backup of the whole phone (boot in Clockwork mod and use Nandroid to do a full backup)), then backup your SD-Card.
After you've finished this, open ROM Manager on your phone and use the partition tool. Create a 512MB EXT partition, no SWAP needed. Your phone will reboot, automatically enter the recovery mode, completely delete the SD card and create a 512MB partition, next to your FAT32 partition.
After that, do a full wipe in the recovery. Everything gets deleted on your phone. Then flash the latest OpenDesire ROM or any other ROM supporting A2SD+. Activate in the OpenDesire settings (menu) the internal install location, so don't set it to external or automatic. Use Titanium Backup to restore your apps (make sure that you set in the properties to install it to the internal memory).
After you've done that, or before you do the app restore, check with Quick System Info if the EXT partition gets used.
Wow that's quite a process. What exactly does that do? Is it using the SD card for part of its internal ram?
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And if so, is 512mb enough?
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gladman said:
Wow that's quite a process. What exactly does that do? Is it using the SD card for part of its internal ram?
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well, it's just creating the EXT partition and starting from scratch
Yes, it uses the SD cards EXT partition as internal ram for both the apps and the dalvik cache.
gladman said:
And if so, is 512mb enough?
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For me it is. I have more than 100 apss installed, several games included. And about 200MB still free.
Where is the rom manager?
never mind found it in market.

[ Q ] wildfire s looses random app data after restart on cm7

Hi folks
I have rooted and installed cm7 quite a while back, whenever I restart my phone one among all apps shows as I have been removed (only icon remains on home screen ) but it comes back after a restart but some other behaves the same at that time
Any ideas??
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Are those apps installed on your sdcard using either the default app2sd or some form of data2sd?
I've noticed this problem when the sdcard has issues...
Yes those apps are on sdcard
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Copy your entire sdcard to your comp using an SD card reader, format it and copy the data back.
Do a titanium or a nandroid backup (it will back up the apps stored on SD too)
See if that works.
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OK will try that, thanks
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a quick question, i have ext partition (data2sd) will i have to repartition the sd card after it? or titanium will do it itself???
on a side note any other easy way to partition other then mini partition tool.
AceRoom said:
Copy your entire sdcard to your comp using an SD card reader, format it and copy the data back.
Do a titanium or a nandroid backup (it will back up the apps stored on SD too)
See if that works.
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predator_b4u said:
a quick question, i have ext partition (data2sd) will i have to repartition the sd card after it? or titanium will do it itself???
on a side note any other easy way to partition other then mini partition tool.
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I personally use Linux so I don't know about Windows partition tools but I think mini partition tool is the way to go for Windows.
Depends on whether you just format the fat32 partition or the entire drive. I would suggest doing a nandroid backup first. Copy all the data from the fat32 partition to your computer. Format and remake the partitions. Then copy the data back and restore using the nandroid backup.

Missing SDcard space

So I discovered I was missing about 2GB of space on my internal card. Through some research I found out that it is being taken up by a folder in the /data/ partition called ._cwm_restore
Is it safe to delete this folder? I'm assuming yes since it seems to be a clone of the apps I already have but I want to check. It is also causing mg backups to double in size.
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naturefreak85 said:
So I discovered I was missing about 2GB of space on my internal card. Through some research I found out that it is being taken up by a folder in the /data/ partition called ._cwm_restore
Is it safe to delete this folder? I'm assuming yes since it seems to be a clone of the apps I already have but I want to check. It is also causing mg backups to double in size.
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That is your nandroid backups and yes, they will fill up memory very fast (roughly 200-400mb per backup) you can of course delete them but I only recommend it if you have a newer backup incase something goes wrong
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Ghstudent said:
That is your nandroid backups and yes, they will fill up memory very fast (roughly 200-400mb per backup) you can of course delete them but I only recommend it if you have a newer backup incase something goes wrong
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That's definitely not the nandroid backup since the backup is stored in /sdcard/clockwork mod/backups. This is stored in /data/data/._cwm_restore so it is actually being backed up with any Nandroid. So if a Nandroid would only be 2GB without that folder, that folder makes it 4Gb
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[Q] Sdcard issu

Hello there
i am new to android and ran into a little problem
I run CM 10 on my galaxy nexus.
When i want to back up my system all goes well except the following
CWM recovery v6.0.1.9
No /sdcard/.android_secure found
Skipping backup of applications on external storage
No sd-ext found skipping backup of sd-ext
Generating md5 sum……
As i (think) found out, I should push my sd card to my iMac?
Can anyone help me with a little step by step tutorial?
or link to a tutorial for mac users?
By the way, I am new to Mac too.
I am not used to work with command lines in Terminal
thank you
As far as I know, this has nothing to do with your backup. Your nandroid backup is successful and this is only to tell you there is no external SD card which is a fact because GNex does not have an external micro SD card slot.
Boot into recovery, go to restore backup, and check if your backup is there and ready to be restored or not
Thanks, I'll give iy a try tomorrow. All apps and setting should be in that recovery?
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gillioen said:
Thanks, I'll give iy a try tomorrow. All apps and setting should be in that recovery?
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Yes!
One more thing, after the following:
No sd-ext found skipping backup of sd-ext
Generating md5 sum……
it should be written something like:
Backup complete
So this confirms that the backup is successful and saved into the CWM folder on the internal (and only) SD card of your GNex
It says backup complete and I find the backup in the cwm folder on the ad card.
Thanks for your help.
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[Q] How far does TWRP recovery backup alongside LINK2SD?

If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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Backup and restore do not touch your internal or external SDcard. So your files, apps, and folders remain untouched.
cam30era said:
Backup and restore do not touch your internal or external SDcard. So your files, apps, and folders remain untouched.
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yh I'm asking about the LINk2SD part. I couldn't find anything precise on google
krusion said:
yh I'm asking about the LINk2SD part. I couldn't find anything precise on google
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Don't know link2sd, but nandroid doesn't touch anything on sdcards. Might have to reestablish links, but probably not. Try it, won't harm anything.
krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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So long as you don't delete any of the data on the external card, then you should be fine. I've been using it this way on my phone for nearly 2yrs.
But my phone is jellybean based so you need to test it out if you are on a kitkat based rom.
**edit to add.. Thought I better add that I don't use foldermount or titanium.
My SD card is partitioned to have an ext4 partition for link2sd and a swap partition and Ofc the main partition.
I've just realised that you don't mention a partition for link2sd. Are you aware that you have to have a partition on your card for link2sd?
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whoamigriffiths said:
So long as you don't delete any of the data on the external card, then you should be fine. I've been using it this way on my phone for nearly 2yrs.
But my phone is jellybean based so you need to test it out if you are on a kitkat based rom.
**edit to add.. Thought I better add that I don't use foldermount or titanium.
My SD card is partitioned to have an ext4 partition for link2sd and a swap partition and Ofc the main partition.
I've just realised that you don't mention a partition for link2sd. Are you aware that you have to have a partition on your card for link2sd?
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I am aware i have to partition it for LINK2SD but I've no idea what the swap partition is for. I'm guessing if link2sd works then foldermount should too.
So what if this: i move my apps using link2sd then back up the nandroid. Then use a different rom and copy everything on my sd as it is to my computer. Then after i'm done with the rom, i restore and copy the stuff back onto the SD. Should that work? Or would the link be broken?
Thanks in advance.
So long as the data is intact, then you should * be fine. The link would be broken but generally you can just recreate the link. I think at one point I was running 4 backed up roms (2 roms and 2 pared down versions for benching) I would switch back and forth daily as I was a tester for 2 devs.
The Swap partition is just for low memory devices. It actually has no bearing on the subject. Just me waffling sorry
As I said earlier, you should make a nandroid before you make any alterations and then add each app/process and back that up too. Then test each change.
All the best rich
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You wouldn't a way that lets you remove TWRP and use the stock recovery would you?
Also a method to unroot so i can send it back to the store for any fixing?
And lastly how do I install the stock rom if i used any other rom? (Besides restoring the nandroid back)
So basically how do i unroot, install stock recovery and reinstall stock rom? For the v500
Thanks in advance and sorry for the noob questions. Still getting the hang of this.
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krusion said:
If I were to have LINK2SD and foldermount installed and having some apps running from both internal and external and a couple of symlinks going on.
Then I decide to backup up using TWRP and install a new rom on there. What happens to the apps and folders on the external? Do they stay there or get deleted? Are they then useful or useless?
Now if I were to go and restore the backup nandroid, do things go back into place? Would the thing get recovered to the SD card again?
How about if Titanium backup goes into the equation?
Sorry for any confusion but I'm really confused right now
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have you found your answer? because I have the same question.
I link my app data and obb to the ext4 partion in my sd card using link2sd, also I backup my ROM using TWRP
So, if I restore will link2sd be able to link the app datas automatically?
kloroform said:
have you found your answer? because I have the same question.
I link my app data and obb to the ext4 partion in my sd card using link2sd, also I backup my ROM using TWRP
So, if I restore will link2sd be able to link the app datas automatically?
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I was try 2 metode restore nandroid with use link2sd..first i try to reformat ext4 partition before restore nandroid and the results of all applications that are already on the link gone..second I try to directly restore applications without reformatting the results are not lost but their application after the reboot error and application error ended up missing. it looks like the system ext4/link broken..so I must to clean flashing rom from the start otherwise the system will error. So if u want to backup nandroid u must unlink or move back to internal first for safety and reformat ext4 partition before u link app again
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