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My understanding is that with PDANet, tethering looks like normal data use. Does Wireless Tether or the hacked Sprint Hotspot app (warm 2.2) also show up as normal data use or can Sprint tell you're tethering over wifi?
I ask because apparently AT&T has been sending letters to customers who use MyWi forcing them to either sign up for a tethering plan or stop tethering... Can (would?) Sprint do something similar?
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Sprint can't tell unless they use Deep Packet Inspection and see something like "Oh hey, what's all this encrypted traffic coming from Netflix's server?".
As for AT&T, they're just yelling at anyone with high amounts of data usage. Simple as that.
I dont think think they can. Just the other day, I went to the Sprint store and the guy noticed that my Evo "looked" different! He said "man how you do that!" I showed him the Rom and told him about rooting, tether and all. He said " "damm. show me how to do that on mines"....i told about Unrevoked and XDA. NOW Im sure he could be reading this thread!
i'm not sure if they can, but i think they stated publicly that they dont care. their paid one just works better, and on 3g and 4g, while consuming less battery than the rest. this is their response, and i think it works well. self-advertising while not angering devs. pretty good of them.
so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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if you switch roms, most have a hacked hospot to work on 3g. wifi tether app also works on 4g.
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so once rooted, do i have to download wireless tether or can i use the hot spot app without being charged?
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you can do both no charge.
Sprint mainly checks for users exceeding the 5Gb per month for data. Other than that, it is difficult to tell without users feeling that their privacy is being invaded. 5Gb comes up quickly if you are streaming movies or downloading outside the normal browsing or youtube.
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I dont think think they can. Just the other day, I went to the Sprint store and the guy noticed that my Evo "looked" different! He said "man how you do that!" I showed him the Rom and told him about rooting, tether and all. He said " "damm. show me how to do that on mines"....i told about Unrevoked and XDA. NOW Im sure he could be reading this thread!
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Yeah, but it wouldn't be a store employee checking anyway. Either way, seems like they don't care.
My evo was rooted with revoked, but still using the standard rom. I was able to use wireless tether without converting to any other rom. Be sure to use the security features (passphrase and access control) to prevent inadvertent use by others.
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Sprint mainly checks for users exceeding the 5Gb per month for data. Other than that, it is difficult to tell without users feeling that their privacy is being invaded. 5Gb comes up quickly if you are streaming movies or downloading outside the normal browsing or youtube.
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Sprint doesn't have a 5gb limit on smartphone plans, that is only on data cards on the 3g network. I just watched a commercial yesterday with Dan Hess stating that Sprints unlimited plans have no limits, unlike Verizon and AT&T.
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Sprint doesn't have a 5gb limit on smartphone plans, that is only on data cards on the 3g network. I just watched a commercial yesterday with Dan Hess stating that Sprints unlimited plans have no limits, unlike Verizon and AT&T.
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they dont have a throttle, they just look into it if you pull that much. like somebody said earlier, if you're pulling 8 gigs from netflix's server, there is only one explanation.
Anybody know of any specific examples of customers getting called out for excessive data use or wifi tethering? I assume there would've been an outrage on XDA and I would've heard about it... I don't think it's happened yet.
I get it that Sprint says they're truly unlimited but I have a nagging suspicion that they're eventually going to crack down on unauthorized tethering. Not that that's going to stop me in the mean time!
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I'd have to dig through the contract and T&C but technically speaking wouldn't tethering without a plan be a contract violation? I'm not claiming to be Mr. Innocent here. I've done the free tethering and have had tethering plans. Just seems to me that since we all signed contracts legally speaking the carriers have more of a leg to stand on than we do.
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I think with the sale of tmobile to at&t, Sprint will increase their user base with people bailing either one. Maybe, hopefully not, they'll begin to check our usage.
Then again, they'll be moving to LTE. Which means those of us with wimax devices, yours truly, will be left to use our data to our desires. At least I hope so.
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I use over 20 gigs a month downloading files(ROMs, files for work, etc) and streaming videos to my phone and have for almost two years. Not once have I been throttled or warned.
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So it sounds like the takeaway is that if Sprint wanted to, they could tell that you're tethering, but there is no evidence that they've ever done it or taken any action against customers... Cool.
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Sprint is a member of the open handset alliance. They don't care.
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html
I use Slingplayer daily for hours sometimes, then I'll tether my iPad 2 and watch movies from my computer while traveling around via AirVideo. I am currently at 10GB of usage this month which is average, they never throttled me or anything.
I've hit over 12GB of usage regularly with no complaints from Sprint. YMMV.
Looks like 'm jumpig the Sprint ship ASAP and going to Verizon.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/31/verizon-can-no-longer-charge-for-tethering-fcc-declares/
Verizon has been slapped with a $1.25 million fine for charging customers to use their cell phones as a mobile Internet hotspot, and has declared that it must allow tethering for free. Google must also reinstate tethering applications from its Android store, which Verizon had asked them to remove. This is especially great news considering more Android devices (and perhaps the next iPhone) are 4G compatible, making mobile Internet nearly universal for Verizon customers. Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T customers should prepare to be gripped by overwhelming jealousy, as it only applies to Verizo
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So they won't charge for tethering but the plans are still expensive and capped... I'll stay
Ummm so?
I already have WiFi tether, and there are non root tether apps in the market. You go have fun tethering your limited 5gb data that costs you $100 a month. I'm going to stick with what I have.
Enjoy your jealousy over our savings and unlimited data
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So they won't charge for tethering but the plans are still expensive and capped... I'll stay
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I thought the judgement was that they couldn't block access, not that they couldn't charge for it.
Even with the family share plan the most you can get is 10 gigs.....if you heavily rely on tethering get ready for huge bills
You know it's just about unblocking the apps? Nothing about the plans has changed.
Why would you leave a unlimited plan to go to where you data is capped and expensive as well? There are unrooted tethering apps and rooted as well even rom with wifi hotspot?
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Looks like 'm jumpig the Sprint ship ASAP and going to Verizon.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/07/31/verizon-can-no-longer-charge-for-tethering-fcc-declares/
Verizon has been slapped with a $1.25 million fine for charging customers to use their cell phones as a mobile Internet hotspot, and has declared that it must allow tethering for free. Google must also reinstate tethering applications from its Android store, which Verizon had asked them to remove. This is especially great news considering more Android devices (and perhaps the next iPhone) are 4G compatible, making mobile Internet nearly universal for Verizon customers. Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T customers should prepare to be gripped by overwhelming jealousy, as it only applies to Verizo
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Might want to do a little research on what the FCC actually ruled on today. It is just stating that Verizon cannot block 3rd party tethering applications from the Markets. They can still charge for tethering if they want just by charging the customer for the "app" but Verizon is getting away from tethering plans anyways so this is not really newsworthy.
And before it gets any deeper in here.
Cue the lock......
---Jay--- From the CM10'd GNex™
Is there a trick or app that will let me tether my phone without att charging me?
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Is there a trick or app that will let me tether my phone without att charging me?
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Did you check in the development section?
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Im referring to a stock phone not rooted
Why not root your phone and tether? Not hard.
Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.
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Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.
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Good find
TBayTom said:
Use FoxFi if you don't want to root.. you'll have to download the apk HERE.
At&t won't let you download from the market.
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Thanks as well! :thumbup:
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Att won't let you download it? Is that recent? Cuz I downloaded it not rooted.
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They used to ban all tethering apps but maybe it's changed since the last time I tried.
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Foxfi doesnt show up in market for me on ATT, However verizon did get slapped by the FCC for blocking tethering apps because a deal they had with the FCC for the portion of networks they use, so maybe ATT will copy them since the two compainies copy eachother all the time anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/31/...ettles-with-fcc-for-1/?a_dgi=aolshare_twitter
I personally don't tether. But i know a lot of people that do, some pay for the service from att, some don't. if att is forced to cease blocking tether apps it would almost guarantee a severe enforcement of their policy on"illegal"tethering.
I also wanted to use Foxfi before I rooted, but I couldn't find it in the market. I'm now rooted, so I used the CWM " Tether and Cell Standby Fix" from the MODs section from this thread. It works fine, but I'd be nice if there was a home screen shortcut to enable/disable it quickly.
Hate to go off topic, but in my Captivate I use MarketAccess to emulate the T-Mobile market. This allow me to install Foxfi directly from the Android market from my rooted AT&T Captivate. I can not get MarketAccess to emulate the T-Mobile Market on the SGS3. Is there a replacement or fix for MarketAccess or a hack to emulate the T-Mobile Market from an AT&T SGS3?
So if i use foxfi att wont charge me for tethering right?
I have unlimited data on virgin in Canada but my plan does not include tethering and they charge a high rate per mb for tether usage, if i installed a custom rom that enabled tethering would they charge me? they dont when i use apps like clockworkmod tether
Recent at&t customer here, pardon my ignorance...but I'm on the 5gb plan and I thought that it included tethering? Is this not true for all the plans? Seems to me if you pay for 2gb 5gb or a million GB you should be able to use it however you please......
The 5gb plan on ATT does not include tethering unless you pay for it which is an extra $40/month last I checked. If you use tethering apps with ATT and you dont pay for the plan they will send you a test and email stating if you dont stop that they will add the tethering plan to your account automatically.
They are quick on catching you now too. Last time I tethered I used about 200mb of data and I got the email, took a week or so after to get it and yes they can detect you. There are ways to not be detected but they usually can.
About the guy saying you should be able to use it how you want is so true. Verizon just lost a class action lawsuit over this and now have to allow tether apps (which are not illegal) because we should beable to use our data and apps anyway we want without our carrier telling us how. We did buy our devices and pay for the service.
So maybe now other carriers will back off so they dont get sued. Because it was a nice chunk of change Verizon had to let go.
The 5GB plan does include tethering. Using the WiFi hotspot now mad posting this.
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The 5GB plan does include tethering. Using the WiFi hotspot now mad posting this.
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Unless they've changed their policy in the last two weeks the AT&T 5GB plan does NOT include tethering. I'm a ex-AT&T IT employee with their now defunct unlimited data plan still in effect as they cannot pull it from me. On my old old rooted and ROM'd Samsung Captivate i'd tether constantly without issue. Since I got the Galaxy S3 (a month ago & still stock) I tried it two weeks ago and the message came up telling me to call AT&T. I called and was told it's a $50 add-on data plan for hotspotting. Hell with that, FoxFi it is, let them tell me I can't do it. it's my data plan and it's unlimited no matter how I use it.
I was wondering if anybody knows what is going on with tethering on AT&T since Verizon got fined. I read some articles claiming that it is built into the plan for new subscribers (i'm on day 13). Every time i turn it on it asks me to enable the service. If I use an app am I going to get an email from AT&T scolding me?
you can get free tethering with a rooted phone
at&t now includes tethering for any plan with 5gb of data which has a ridiculous price
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you can get free tethering with a rooted phone
at&t now includes tethering for any plan with 5gb of data which has a ridiculous price
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Only reason I haven't rooted is because i'm scared of bricking my phone. I've read about a few people on these boards that have.
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Only reason I haven't rooted is because i'm scared of bricking my phone. I've read about a few people on these boards that have.
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Rooting the phone rarely (I have yet to see a brick myself) bricks the phone. What normally bricks the phone are the custom ROM's people install, which has a much greater chance at bricking the phone then simply rooting.
Check out the S3 Toolkit, I used it to root, and never had a problem
I have unlimited data and I used to tether. I got the "NO NO" notice from ATT and have ceased tethering. Not worth losing my data plan over...
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I have unlimited data and I used to tether. I got the "NO NO" notice from ATT and have ceased tethering. Not worth losing my data plan over...
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same here
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Only reason I haven't rooted is because i'm scared of bricking my phone. I've read about a few people on these boards that have.
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All you have to do is be able to read and follow directions and you won't brick your phone. It is that simple.
Im on unlimited as welll... was wondering though...Did you guys use a really large amount of data while tethering that may have triggered it or was your data consumption low but they still sent you a warning because they detected tethering? Just wondering as I do occasionally tether, but if I do I watch my total monthly consumption and try to keep it around 2 gig if possible. I normally run between 1.5 -2.5 gig monthly but I stream Pandora almost everyday to and from work, so when I tether I try to keep that average consumption in mind so that hopefully my account doesnt get flagged....
Foxfi works on NON rooted phone just don't change drastically your usage.
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And... in reference to the whole thing with Verizon being fined and now offering free tethering no matter what plan their customers have, that was specifically a Verizon thing. I guess they had some sort of contract or something to use a specific frequency band for their LTE network, and one stipulation by the FCC was that they had to provide tethering at no charge... or something like that. Thus why they were fined and are now providing it. AT&T had no such stipulations... but in light of that, who knows... maybe we'll see something from AT&T to hopefully prevent loss of customers for tethering.
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Im on unlimited as welll... was wondering though...Did you guys use a really large amount of data while tethering that may have triggered it or was your data consumption low but they still sent you a warning because they detected tethering? Just wondering as I do occasionally tether, but if I do I watch my total monthly consumption and try to keep it around 2 gig if possible. I normally run between 1.5 -2.5 gig monthly but I stream Pandora almost everyday to and from work, so when I tether I try to keep that average consumption in mind so that hopefully my account doesnt get flagged....
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i was under 2GB, my guess is they found out through the "hop" method
For the purposes of this discussion, is hotspot synonymous with tethering, or is that a separate issue? Will rooting enable hotspot?
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For the purposes of this discussion, is hotspot synonymous with tethering, or is that a separate issue? Will rooting enable hotspot?
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hotspots are tethering
tethering means connecting your phone to a computer or another internet capable device for sharing a data connection which is what a hotspot does. hotspot just means specifically wifi tethering.
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I have unlimited data and I used to tether. I got the "NO NO" notice from ATT and have ceased tethering. Not worth losing my data plan over...
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I got that notice too. Then nice lady said she was going to put a block on my account for tethering. I have used my tethering before for about two hours or so on different occasions and not a single notice from them.
I also told her to make a note of what she had just made on my account, and what i was informed of. This dates back to when i had my infuse. then my blackberry, then my i777, then my iphone, then my i747. i have not gotten any notice from them and i have tethered on every single one of those devices.
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hotspots are tethering
tethering means connecting your phone to a computer or another internet capable device for sharing a data connection which is what a hotspot does. hotspot just means specifically wifi tethering.
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You should hear what AT&T defines tethering as... its crazy. I got into a huge argument with them because of their definitions of tethering.
So the infuse comes with a MHL adapter right, according to 3 different people at AT&T using that adapter counts as tethering. that is when i started getting mad, so using hardware that you all provided to view content recorded on my infuse on my TV counts as tethering? they said yes, so does streaming music from services like Pandora and spotify to your phone to your cars speakers also counts as tethering.
so in reality, using you AUX cable on your car, according to AT&T, you are tethering.
Kinda crazy huh?
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I got that notice too. Then nice lady said she was going to put a block on my account for tethering. I have used my tethering before for about two hours or so on different occasions and not a single notice from them.
I also told her to make a note of what she had just made on my account, and what i was informed of. This dates back to when i had my infuse. then my blackberry, then my i777, then my iphone, then my i747. i have not gotten any notice from them and i have tethered on every single one of those devices.
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You should hear what AT&T defines tethering as... its crazy. I got into a huge argument with them because of their definitions of tethering.
So the infuse comes with a MHL adapter right, according to 3 different people at AT&T using that adapter counts as tethering. that is when i started getting mad, so using hardware that you all provided to view content recorded on my infuse on my TV counts as tethering? they said yes, so does streaming music from services like Pandora and spotify to your phone to your cars speakers also counts as tethering.
so in reality, using you AUX cable on your car, according to AT&T, you are tethering.
Kinda crazy huh?
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AT&T's new slogan should be
Hard wire anything on your phones and we have a right to ass rape you on your monthly bill.
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you can get free tethering with a rooted phone
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No need to root. Just install "Tethering Widget" and away you go...it only checks for a tethering plan if you go thru the system menu.
If that's true, I guess I should stop tethering my phone to electricity every night AT&T changes their definition of tethering on an hourly basis.
OK, I'm really confused now... I'm seeing so many different statements in different threads ...
Out of the box, AT&T disables your wireless and Bluetooth tethering so that you have to call them and add a tethering plan to your account. Correct?
So if you root your device to enable this feature and use it AT&T can see this and will send you a warning letter or they will switch you to a tethering plan themselves?
So what about the Foxfi program people have started using on these phones to enable hotspot? will that be seen by AT&T as well or not??
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You should hear what AT&T defines tethering as... its crazy. I got into a huge argument with them because of their definitions of tethering.
So the infuse comes with a MHL adapter right, according to 3 different people at AT&T using that adapter counts as tethering. that is when i started getting mad, so using hardware that you all provided to view content recorded on my infuse on my TV counts as tethering? they said yes, so does streaming music from services like Pandora and spotify to your phone to your cars speakers also counts as tethering.
so in reality, using you AUX cable on your car, according to AT&T, you are tethering.
Kinda crazy huh?
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I got the warning too, also on unlimited. I had never gone over 2GB of data on my plan, and the month that i got the warning I was at like 1.3GB of usage. I hadn't even tethered that month but the month before I did a couple times. I too was on my Infuse if I remember correctly.
I was quite taken back by their definition of tethering. I was told by the AT&T Rep that using Bluetooth or AUX to listen to Pandora through my phone is considered tethering. I couldn't believe it. I still use Play Music to listen to music Via BT in my car from time to time but I am almost hesitant to due to the warnings.
Quite stupid though. What is the point of unlimited data (or even 2gb-4gb of data) if you are not allowed to use the data for what you want? (Computer tethering aside).
That sounds like such BS.... your not using Bluetooth or AUX as a hotspot to connect another internet enabled device to the internet...your using your car speakers as wireless speakers... in that analogy that would mean all the wireless bluetooth speakers that are sold for cellphones would be considered "tethered" as well... your not consuming any more date then if you had your headphones plugged in to the phone... actual tethering or hotspots do consume more bandwidth because you are using your phone to enable a laptop or tablet (which is a device that can connect to the internet and consume more bandwidth then your phone normally does) if this is true, I smell a very large class action lawsuit coming against AT&T ....
Can anyone tell me if they're able to use the built in hotspot for free with unlimited data on Verizon, or perhaps an app that allows wifi tether without root on this phone?
Really want the Note 4. Don't mind waiting for root, or even if it never comes, but I have to have hotspot immediately.
Looks like Foxfi doesn't work on tmobile or Sprint Note 4 yet. They can use Bluetooth or usb but no wifi tether. Give Foxfi a few weeks and they should have it fixed.
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Looks like Foxfi doesn't work on tmobile or Sprint Note 4 yet. They can use Bluetooth or usb but no wifi tether. Give Foxfi a few weeks and they should have it fixed.
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Hmm yea that's what I'm afraid of. Need it day 1, not weeks. Will have to wait to order until there is a confirmed method.
I could be wrong as I've been out of the foxfi loop for a year or so but I thought KitKat and beyond broke that capability without unlocking through the carrier..... I bought tether by clockworkmod and use USB tether which works great. I wish WiFi tether worked as I'm in unlimited as well but I believe you need root otherwise to somehow disable the carrier subscription check. Anybody confirm this?
Foxfi works fine on unrooted Note 3 with Kitkat.
http://pdanet.co/help/devices.php
Hope they can work their magic on the GN4.
Look here for working Foxfi on Verizon Note 4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56188053
I got my Verizon note 4. Activated the Sim it came with. I can verify that foxfi works....
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I got my Verizon note 4. Activated the Sim it came with. I can verify that foxfi works....
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Thanks for the confirmation. I am sooooo buying a Verizon Note 4!
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I got my Verizon note 4. Activated the Sim it came with. I can verify that foxfi works....
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Cool, put my order in. Will get it Monday!
I can also verify that it works. The FoxFi app walks you through the steps, you need to add a certificate, and every time you turn it on, you have to go into the system settings and turn it on there also.
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I can also verify that it works. The FoxFi app walks you through the steps, you need to add a certificate, and every time you turn it on, you have to go into the system settings and turn it on there also.
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Foxfi installed 3rd party spy ware certificate warning after rebooting be careful!!!
I don't know about FoxFi, but if you pay Verizon $30/month to add the WiFi tethering feature to your plan, you can legally use the Mobile Hotspot feature built into Android with your unlimited data plan. What's even better is you don't run the risk of Verizon catching you breaching their Terms of Service: if you're paying them for the privilege, then you are fully within your rights to avail yourself of that privilege. So even if Verizon is looking at all my packets and going "hmm, that looks a lot like Windows Update... wait, our phones don't use Windows Update!" they can't do anything to me. They would have no cause to terminate my contract.
I'm pretty sure the "base" Terms of Service for the unlimited data plan contract has a clause about tethering not being allowed. That restriction is lifted, of course, if you pay for the mobile hotspot feature. And no, turning on the mobile hotspot feature does not change your plan, so you don't lose your unlimited data by enabling it!
I'd rather not take the risk with something that you literally cannot get back if they take it away.
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I don't know about FoxFi, but if you pay Verizon $30/month to add the WiFi tethering feature to your plan, you can legally use the Mobile Hotspot feature built into Android with your unlimited data plan. What's even better is you don't run the risk of Verizon catching you breaching their Terms of Service: if you're paying them for the privilege, then you are fully within your rights to avail yourself of that privilege. So even if Verizon is looking at all my packets and going "hmm, that looks a lot like Windows Update... wait, our phones don't use Windows Update!" they can't do anything to me. They would have no cause to terminate my contract.
I'm pretty sure the "base" Terms of Service for the unlimited data plan contract has a clause about tethering not being allowed. That restriction is lifted, of course, if you pay for the mobile hotspot feature. And no, turning on the mobile hotspot feature does not change your plan, so you don't lose your unlimited data by enabling it!
I'd rather not take the risk with something that you literally cannot get back if they take it away.
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Maybe, instead of guessing and giving people the wrong information you can refer the the agreement Verizon has with the FCC. They are not allowed to block tethering.
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-verizons-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/
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Maybe, instead of guessing and giving people the wrong information you can refer the the agreement Verizon has with the FCC. They are not allowed to block tethering.
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-verizons-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/
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Maybe, if you had read the article you just linked me to, you'd see this gem:
Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no. Verizon says that customers under the unlimited plan are required by the company's terms of service to pay an additional fee to tether their device.
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So, two things:
1. As I said in my first post, Verizon would be entitled to cancel your service at any time if they discover you are breaching their Terms of Service (ToS). Irrespective of what Federal law says, they can write anything they want into their ToS, and terminate your contract at any time, for any reason. If Verizon thinks it is against their ToS that you're tethering on an unlimited plan without paying them $30/month, and you're doing it, then Verizon can cancel your subscription to their services, and there's nothing you as "the little guy" can do. This has nothing to do with the law, and just what Verizon is willing to accept, and what you agreed to when you signed up with them.
2. If you violate the Terms of Service, you could technically be liable for civil (non-criminal) penalties if Verizon can prove that you somehow caused them harm. I'm not sure if they'd bother trying to sue you, but it's possible.
Again, I stated that I choose this particular method because I do not want to take the risk that Verizon might have cause to cancel my services with them. That would be a very severe blow to me and I would have to search long and hard to find a viable replacement for the things I do (using lots of data on the road, for instance). It doesn't matter if what you're doing is legal or not. If Verizon doesn't want to offer you service because of something you did, they can cancel your service, and you have absolutely no say about it. I prefer to give them as few things to complain about as possible, to maximize my chances that my use of unlimited data will continue as long as possible.
The reality of it is that carriers still have us users by the balls, and they will never, ever be held liable in any way for refusing or canceling service to a customer for any reason. Since this is a service that is no longer offered to new customers and is highly valued, we have a lot of motivation to hang on to what we have.
Other people are free to take the risk, of course. That's their own decision.
I totally agree with you! I added Hotspot to my plan and love being able to do it legally. A large company like Verizon if they decide to cancel you for illegally tethering I'm sure nothing could be done.
You know what... you are absolutly right. I shall eat my delicious shoe. I did call customer service for clairifaction and oddly enough the rep I spoke with said tether away. They won't stop you for doing it. There are not that many unlimited subscribers left (out of 100mil, I don't know what not a lot means) but I asked them to note my account with those notes just in case.
I know I'm glad to be able to get tethering legally. I had such a hard time with AT&T grandfathered data. They definitely can tell if you bypassing their system. When I tethered the browser would redirect to a subscription page even though they don't have unlimited data with tethering. I switched to tmobile and could get around tethering block but coverage sucked, and dropped calls with full bars. I'm sure Verizon could block illegal tethering easily if they wanted to, I just want to be ahead of the game if they decide too.