Bad Battery Life in Jellybean - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I'm running the Paranoid Android Jellybean ROM and I've been getting really bad battery life. It dropped from 100 to 79 in 2 hours yesterday with 4g on and no usage. Last night "media" was killing my battery but now nothing really appears out of the ordinary. I attached some pictures below. Thanks
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this is because we do not have a source kernel once we do battery will get batter

Worst battery life I've ever had and i get no GPS.... i flashed backed to Re-calikun 4.0.4 Rom :laugh:

Most users have pretty bad battery. We need either a kick ass script (placebo ) or source to increase potential
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Have you tried the latest CM10 nightly? I get amazing batterylife on it.
Have you considered the idea that maybe somethings keeping your phone from sleeping?

I think its weird how most jb roms I've run, ALL seem to charge really quick. Maybe that's part of the reason? I obviously have no expertise in this, just seems probable?

geoffrey567 said:
I'm running the Paranoid Android Jellybean ROM and I've been getting really bad battery life. It dropped from 100 to 79 in 2 hours yesterday with 4g on and no usage. Last night "media" was killing my battery but now nothing really appears out of the ordinary. I attached some pictures below. Thanks
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Yes, battery life is bad now but slowly improving.. I've posted several methods to help the bleeding battery issue... Keeping 4G up (If not using it) will make your battery disappear faster then a cupcake at a jenny craig convention. So here's some helpful things to make it a little bareable..
Juice defender- Use this app to manage data. I've got mine set Data off with screen off. It'll automatically kick it on when you put the screen on.
Notifications- Turn off Notification light, Limit notifications from App sycn (Facebook and such)
Sync times- Add a longer duration between syncs. do you need email to check every 15 min? It can be set to every 6 hours, ever 12 hours, or everyday, open app to sync at that moment. (not saying this is how your's is set)
Screen brightness- Turn off Auto bright, Set to a level where you can see it.
GTalk- This is an auto sign in program, Turn off, sign out.. disable whatever you prefer to do with this.
Screen time out- 15 Secs (or so) if your not using it.. it'll go off and save battery. (Works well with the dimness being lower)
Try these methods.. Your life will improve some.. (as always YMMV)

charlie81 said:
this is because we do not have a source kernel once we do battery will get batter
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Sbrissen's kernel is built from source....

thewadegeek said:
Sbrissen's kernel is built from source....
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Umm.. did samsung release source only to him?
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I was getting terrible battery life until I replaced my battery with a new one. The old battery was bloated and I was able to spin it around on a flat surface. I only spent $13 for a new one
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31936573
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Omar04 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31936573
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Agree with u there Omar, things i listed earlier will ease the drain a little. But as you stated, till kernel is set (which we know the devs are hard at work on, between their real lives, familes, jobs) it'll get nailed down. Thanks!
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BluesRulez said:
Umm.. did samsung release source only to him?
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Nice smart ass response that truly shows your level of ignorance. The kernel used in both cm10 and aosp jb is built from source, both the Samsung released ff18 kernel source and open source bits to patch up the kernel to support jb. You fail at reading.
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odub303 said:
Nice smart ass response that truly shows your level of ignorance. The kernel used in both cm10 and aosp jb is built from source, both the Samsung released ff18 kernel source and open source bits to patch up the kernel to support jb. You fail at reading.
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Read what the other guy said, don't think she/he was trying to be to much of a smartass. This what gets some of the noobs and other folks confused and asking about other kernels yea its built from source as you explained but its a different source other then the jb source that Samsung would to release. There's lots of confusing leading to the word built from source and have some folks thinking maybe its jb source which we haven't gotten yet and maybe that's why they wonder why the bad battery and start to asking about other kernels.
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The point is its not JB source for our phone. If we had a JB kernel source, we'd see a lot more kernels than just his. It takes a certain amount of skill to take ICS source and make it work with another OS version, and it takes time to work out all the issues.
I've run just about all the JB ROMs to date, but had to finally give in and go back to ICS for my daily because JB battery life just couldn't get me through the day with my normal usage pattern. It'll get there though. Just give it time.
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odub303 said:
Nice smart ass response that truly shows your level of ignorance. The kernel used in both cm10 and aosp jb is built from source, both the Samsung released ff18 kernel source and open source bits to patch up the kernel to support jb. You fail at reading.
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Just wow.
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Have you guys tweaked the Performance tab of the phone? I've noticed better battery performance if I set my CPU freq to be 200-800 and the governor to be PegasusQ. Performance of the phone is still the same, but drain has been slower. You can also download Internet Commander from the market that will control your data radio, but it kinda sucks for streaming apps (Pandora).

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Just wow.
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Exactly!
"Samsung released ff18 kernel source and open source bits to patch up the kernel to support jb."
That is not considered "Samsung source"- I don't care how you slice it. That is Samsung ICS Source and patches from our Dev's to make JB work- not from Samsung. Besides that... your rude.

Jb battery life has been fine for me. I get about 2-2:30 hrs screen on time which typically includes playing music for about an hour each day, wifi or 3g on 24/7, along with 10-60 texts and a few quick phone calls. It's not as good as gingerbread but I would say it is better than early ics leaks, and maybe even better than ff18. As always ymmv. :good: BTW I'm running codename android with everything stock.

jpkelly05 said:
Exactly!
"Samsung released ff18 kernel source and open source bits to patch up the kernel to support jb."
That is not considered "Samsung source"- I don't care how you slice it. That is Samsung ICS Source and patches from our Dev's to make JB work- not from Samsung. Besides that... your rude.
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Perhaps you weren't aware, but "Samsung source" has sucked and sucks in the ff18 source release. It's incomplete, it doesn't boot if built as intended, and requires changes just to compile properly. Try actually learning and educating yourself instead of making lame arguments like this one.
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Related

Android OS Bug - READ THIS BEFORE YOU ASK ANYONE ABOUT FIXES

The linked thread below is the definitive discussion on the Android OS bug. Please read the OP thoroughly before you ask whether ROM's or kernels fix the AOS bug. Bottom line, there is no fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
odub303 said:
The linked thread below is the definitive discussion on the Android OS bug. Please read the OP thoroughly before you ask whether ROM's or kernels fix the AOS bug. Bottom line, there is no fix.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
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Absolutely a very informative read. I saw this myself last night. Thanks for posting a link odub. There is a lot of good information included.
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JohnCorleone said:
Absolutely a very informative read. I saw this myself last night. Thanks for posting a link odub. There is a lot of good information included.
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I pm'd the OP to see if he minds if I copy the main content into this thread.
It definitely made sense to me. I mean if I charge my phone to full before I go to sleep and I have my 2 email accounts set to sync at maximum which I believe is 1 hour on stock email app then my Android OS is always going to be at the top until I actually start using the phone and if you are really using your phone then screen is always at the top of usage and if it was such a major battery drainer then when I woke up and my Android OS was at like 60% then I don't think my battery would look like this...
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It definitely made sense to me. I mean if I charge my phone to full before I go to sleep and I have my 2 email accounts set to sync at maximum which I believe is 1 hour on stock email app then my Android OS is always going to be at the top until I actually start using the phone and if you are really using your phone then screen is always at the top of usage and if it was such a major battery drainer then when I woke up and my Android OS was at like 60% then I don't think my battery would look like this...
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So are you in agreeance there is no bug and the percentages show just the way it should?
I do not believe there is a bug but people will argue there is so it is almost a waste of breath...If you click on Android OS you can actually see how much activity is uses. I am also waiting for someone to post a pic that has a high on screen time but still has a high percentage of Android OS.
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So are you in agreeance there is no bug and the percentages show just the way it should?
I do not believe there is a bug but people will argue there is so it is almost a waste of breath...If you click on Android OS you can actually see how much activity is uses. I am also waiting for someone to post a pic that has a high on screen time but still has a high percentage of Android OS.
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Well, if its a bug (which it is acknowledged as and without a real fix) then its not something that's dinging my battery in any major way that's for sure. Edit..once I debloated my phone and got rid of the apps that run on their own, everything has been great here
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I have been running Calks Rom 1.5a with Overstews ICS Theme. With this Rom and the Kernel that came with the Rom, I believe the kernel was the Rogue Kernel, I was having only 2% dedicated to the AOS. Two weeks ago I flashed the EG31 modem, which I feel I jumped the gun on that, but was still only running 2% for AOS. I flashed the EK02 kernel today and my AOS has been sitting at 14% and I really dont see any improvement in signal strength. Compared to some of the speed test I have seen in some of the forums, my data speeds seem really slow in comparison. Does anyone know if the jump from 2% to the 14% AOS I'm having will make that big of a difference in battery life? With my previous setup, I was able to run on a full charge for about 2 and a half days with moderate use.
I believe (and I may be wrong) that it was masked in the kernel more than it was an actual fix. Really your best bet is to re-calibrate your battery and give it a few battery cycles/days to settle in and then compare your results to previous setup
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I believe (and I may be wrong) that it was masked in the kernel more than it was an actual fix. Really your best bet is to re-calibrate your battery and give it a few battery cycles/days to settle in and then compare your results to previous setup
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Any kernel patched up to .14 reports usage in a way that results in dramatically reduced usage attributed to AOS. Personally, even with the bug, the device is superb in the battery life department. If the ever truly quash this bug, it will leap to ridiculous.
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Any kernel patched up to .14 reports usage in a way that results in dramatically reduced usage attributed to AOS. Personally, even with the bug, the device is superb in the battery life department. If the ever truly quash this bug, it will leap to ridiculous.
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I agree 110%. If your phone is set up right, you will have great battery life right now. If it gets solved...wow! We will be in for a real treat. Is there anybody checking this our on 2.3.6 or is it the same?
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Any more info on this?
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I agree 110%. If your phone is set up right, you will have great battery life right now. If it gets solved...wow! We will be in for a real treat. Is there anybody checking this our on 2.3.6 or is it the same?
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Same android OS bug on 2.3.6 that I had on 2.3.4, draining around 5% an hour with very light use, and I've already wiped and reloaded apps one by one
apparently this bug is still present in android 4.0
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apparently this bug is still present in android 4.0
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Why am I not surprised? Lol. Well, I am happy with my battery life. I tend to just look past it when I check battery info
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Jelly bean kernel?

So I've seen a few sigs talking about custom kernels on there et4g while running some version of aosp jellybean. Just wondering if anyone had info on this
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If i am not mistaken, there are no custom JB kernels yet. Unless someone has gotten a good source recently.
(Taken from the AOSP JB Thread)
"Originally Posted by wraith404
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/2012/05/t...-emmc.html?m=1
Follow these instructions. You have to flash the specific kernel. Forget the ICS version, it only works right with cm9.
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If you are talking about this post... this is about Mutliboot (Allows you to temporarily reboot into a completely stock TW Rom to update PRL, Profile, and things like that) Once you reboot, it will restore your original rom. (Quite the handy tool)
If there is a true JB kernel developed, I stand corrected. But to my knowledge as of this morning, there isn't. (Devs feel free to chime in on this if you will)
No other JB kernels except for sbrissens, which technically is a custom kernel since there isn't a stock kernel for the et4g his had to be written from scratch on top of the ICS source
We are legion, for we are many.
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No other JB kernels except for sbrissens, which technically is a custom kernel since there isn't a stock kernel for the et4g his had to be written from scratch on top of the ICS source
We are legion, for we are many.
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Thanks, I haven't been running JB lately and haven't seen any buzz about it yet. I may have to check that out later and see how it runs.
milky1112 said:
Thanks, I haven't been running JB lately and haven't seen any buzz about it yet. I may have to check that out later and see how it runs.
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if you are a power user may not be a good choice battery levels are not on par yet but most of the builds are very stable
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if you are a power user may not be a good choice battery levels are not on par yet but most of the builds are very stable
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No worse than any aosp ICS build honestly. The builds take a few days to stabilize and if u calibrate your battery they easily get u through a day
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tweakymattman said:
No worse than any aosp ICS build honestly. The builds take a few days to stabilize and if u calibrate your battery they easily get u through a day
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Not in my experience. It's not absolutely awful on the JB ROMs, but it's not equal to CM9 in my opinion. Also, there is no battery calibration on this phone, other than using it and letting the fuel gauge converge to accuracy.
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if you are a power user may not be a good choice battery levels are not on par yet but most of the builds are very stable
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Meh, battery life isn't really an issue... I have my phone tethered directly to a motorcycle battery in my backpack.. I can get atleast an hour and a half screen on time before it dies running JB.... But honestly, i'm always trying them to see how things go. But I use the typical conservation methods.. (Juice Defender(Data on screen on), Screen dim, 15 sec timeout, and all the other goodies to help make the juice last), If all else fails.. I do internet support for a cable company, i'm sitting at a computer all day so i've got power to recharge if needed LOL..
milky1112 said:
Thanks, I haven't been running JB lately and haven't seen any buzz about it yet. I may have to check that out later and see how it runs.
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Its the kernel included in every JB build available for out phone. Its the only JB kernel available right now because there are no leaked JB kernels and no source so sbrissen had to rewrite the ICS kernel to run JB for us
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Dchibro said:
Not in my experience. It's not absolutely awful on the JB ROMs, but it's not equal to CM9 in my opinion. Also, there is no battery calibration on this phone, other than using it and letting the fuel gauge converge to accuracy.
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By calibrate, I think he means charging to full and deleting battery stats.
Can be done in recovery (under advanced) or with an app from the store.
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Not in my experience. It's not absolutely awful on the JB ROMs, but it's not equal to CM9 in my opinion. Also, there is no battery calibration on this phone, other than using it and letting the fuel gauge converge to accuracy.
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I agree with this, I can't go all day with normal use and no charging on jb but its no issue on various ics roms. The jb roms are all very nice though and definitely stable enough for daily use.

Roms with the best battery life.

I was wanting to know which ROM has the best battery life on the Gnex the CDMA version.
Thanks
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They are all pretty much the same IMO. The screen sucks up juice so keep it off as often as possible lol
xero925 said:
I was wanting to know which ROM has the best battery life on the Gnex the CDMA version.
Thanks
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If you want the latest software, most stable, and best battery life ROM, go with MMuzzy's AOSP ROM. Using it now, and its amazing
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ROMs themselves rarely ever have an actual impact on battery life. Most postive effects for battery come from the kernel, and negative ones from rogue apps.
Before you ask which kernel offers the best battery, it really depends on the requirements of the user and the phone itself. You'll just have to try a few.
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ROMs themselves rarely ever have an actual impact on battery life. Most postive effects for battery come from the kernel, and negative ones from rogue apps.
Before you ask which kernel offers the best battery, it really depends on the requirements of the user and the phone itself. You'll just have to try a few.
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That's very true, IMHO LeanKernel is the absolute best.
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How do I switch out the kernel. I'm kind of a noob at this stuff...
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Flash it like you would a ROM. Make sure you find one that is for the version of android your ROM is based on. I would suggest tying Franco kernel, but there are many good ones.
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How do I switch out the kernel. I'm kind of a noob at this stuff...
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FYI....this thread goes in general.
Flash kernel in cwm the same as you would have a rom. Be sure to clear cache/dalvik first.
For the moment the ROM with the best battery life is SlimRoms 2.7
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I've tried many ROMs and Kernels with no success in the battery life department.
My phone charger died so I downloaded an app...Easy Battery Saver...my phone was still at 34% after 1 day and 7 hours. I was NOT heavily using my phone but still this is the best battery life I have ever experienced. I was always on the "battery saver apps are useless" team until recently.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still flashing
Just love my new app.
i tried miui, pa, vicious, aopk, smooth, and now using cm10. tried out different kernals too,but at the end, all the roms cant pass 1hr 50mins of screen time.
zeke1988 said:
i tried miui, pa, vicious, aopk, smooth, and now using cm10. tried out different kernals too,but at the end, all the roms cant pass 1hr 50mins of screen time.
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Hmm.. thats strange. I'm on MMuzzy's ROM which is pure AOSP and I get around 2 and a half hours of screen time. And some people around the forums have gotten around 5 hours of screen time with different combinations of ROMS and Kernels.
I have tried numerous roms, if not all of them for the galaxy nexus, and there is a difference between roms, even using the same kernel.
I have been getting amazing battery life using Eclipse.
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The mods can move this thread, but in the mean time, it is a good question.
I used to get some awesome battery life. VZW + 2100mah. Typically 4 hours screen on time was normal.... now I'm lucky to get 1hr. I can't remember if it was the jelly bean update or the inclusion of Google Now.
Does letting the ROM settle really help? I have been getting terrible battery life out of my 2100mah. The battery just drains when the screen is off. No rogue apps, but this is a fresh install as of 24 hours ago
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I believe use what you like as long as you use Lean Kernel you should get good battery life.
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I believe use what you like as long as you use Lean Kernel you should get good battery life.
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I wasn't going to put my 2 cents in but because there are so many complaints about this being in the wrong place, I just have to now.
I have tried many different ROM's and kernels and found there always seems to be the "right" combination sooner or later. Right now I am on AOKP w/Franco M6 and getting about 14 hours with 24% battery left, 2.5 hours screen time, mostly LTE and moderate phone use, best I have seen of any combo for me on this ROM. For CNA the right kernel for me was lean kernel. A little experimentation and patience and you will find that sweet spot soon enough.
Edit: the whining drew me to it, sucked me in so I couldn't stop myself from answering
If someone can get 4+ hours screen with mostly 3G, let me know. haha.
Wrong section
However as for battery life slim ROMs work great but I'm on jbsourcery built in trinity and I've definitely had worse d: the only ROM I've used that's had has battery is pa however they've had multiple updates since then so I'm sure its not horrible now
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2 things here:
1) OP, wrong section. Questions belong in their own section, the Q&A section. Development is reserved for Roms, kernels, tweaks, etc.
2) If you guys see something posted in the wrong section, report it. No need to get in an internet gang war about it. Us mods have a life too and we can not be here 24 hrs a day to watch over you. When you hit the report button, we see it.

Get Most Battery Life Out Of Your GS2

I have lately been running tests of different ROMs and trying to get the best battery life possible! I have tested out these ROMs:
Jedi Mind Trick X1
CM10 Stable Release 4.1.2
AOKP Jellybean 4.1.2
Slim Bean Unofficial 4.1.2
When i flashed these ROMs i did a battery calibration (off app from play store NOT CWM). And ran them on FULL Brightness, GPS ON, BLUETOOTH ON, and running on Wi-Fi! I opened up netflix and watched multiple movies (same movies for each ROM)...until the phone went completely dead. Here are the results i got:
Jedi Mind Trick X1: 4 1/2 Hours
CM10 Stable Release: 3 3/4 Hours
AOKP Jellybean: 4 Hours
Slim Bean Unofficial: 5 3/4 Hours
As most people know the Screen does use over half of the battery. So on this test the screen was on NON-STOP for the amount of time you see above. And 99% of people will not have their screens on for that long at one time. So this is the WORSE-CASE scenario for battery life. I was impressed mainly with Slim Bean and Jedi Mind Trick did good as well.
You may get different results than I did. If you are using a ROM that i did not test or you tested one of these ROMs above and got different results please post below your results.
I hope this helped guys
Thanks for this.... maybe i need to try out slimrom again
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Thanks for this.... maybe i need to try out slimrom again
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I used an unofficial version of it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964944&highlight=slim+bean
I did do a battery calibration! I suggest doing that and you should have GREAT battery life.
Ok guys. I have officially moved over to the Galaxy Note 2. I no longer have the Galaxy S2 so i cannot add anymore support for it since it is against the rules. I appreciate all the help from this device thread and now you guys can see me at the GN2 forums. Goodbye Galaxy S2 Users
Personally I have the best battery performance, regardless of the ROM, by setting up CPU profiles. Basically you can set one profile to limit the to 432 (or whatever you want) while the screen is off and 1500+ while screen is on. I use ROM Toolbox Pro for this and get really good results. If your interested just do some searching on ROM Toolbox Pro and CPU profiles. Just thought I would share
How come no matter what rom I run my battery still juices super fast
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I'm averaging like 10+ wit AOKP runnin at 1242/192 badass/sio on both cores using 4g when I need it on 4.2.2
AOKP B5 3/10nightly NOS V0.0.7
people say that doing battery wipes are useless? From my experiences, i have gotten terrible battery life with those roms. It must have been due to the fact that the battery was not properly calibrated.
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Watching the same movie for 4times? Wow.....
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Not sure if guys care about 4g speeds sbut this is what i got using edge only... Just used my phone for what it is. A source of communication. I also noticed better and more consistent call quality. Running an older build of cm10 back from October. Im sure I could get even more battery if i upgrade to stable
There's about three hours screen on time
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Not sure if guys care about 4g speeds sbut this is what i got using edge only... Just used my phone for what it is. A source of communication. I also noticed better and more consistent call quality. Running an older build of cm10 back from October. Im sure I could get even more battery if i upgrade to stable
There's about three hours screen on time
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Woah that is a LOT of wake locks..
And bump
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What do you guys think is the best Governor/scheduler combo with the Jb leaks? (Cymbaline kernel too)
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[Q] Questions about kernels

I'm new to Android. I made a few posts on here making that abundantly clear (lol). I am just wondering, what exact part of the OS is the kernel? For example, I'm using LiquidSmooth with the default kernel that was included with that. If I were to flash the ktoonsez kernel, what changes would I see? Also, could someone point me to a site where I can download the KT kernel for LiquidSmooth 4.2.1 JellyBean Beta 2? What other kernels are there? What are the advantages of using them? And finally, where can I find them?
I'm looking for a way to conserve battery life right now, but not take away from how my phone currently looks. Sorry for asking such a stupid set of questions, but I'd like to know about this since I plan on sticking with Android. And if that's the case, I wanna learn all about the neat things I can do to make my phone customized, sleek looking, and effective.
Thanks in advance for helping out this new comer to the Android scene
The kernel is the interface between the devices software and hardware. Its basically a bundle of drivers and code to tell the hardware and software how to communicate. All computers use a kernel from windoze to OSux and Linux. Android is based around a modified version of the Linux kernel. You won't see any visual changes when you flash a kernel. And you can find em here in the development or original development sub forums
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Cool thanks for the detailed explanation. I never really took the time to look up the exact purpose of kernels in an OS but you just explained it to me perfectly.
So, are there any kernels that are better for say battery conservation and performance?
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That all depends on your settings and usage. Theres no one way to get the best battery and performance for your usage, mostly just trial and error trying out different settings and tweaks til you find what works for you. For a good battery performance balance undervolting and overclocking work well. For instance I'm on a note 2 and im overclocked to 1.8ghz and undervolted by 75mv across the board and get almost identical battery to stock, however I still gain in performance without sacrificing battery. Now if I drop my clock rate back to stock and keep the undervolting I get same performance as on stock but my battery life increases by a few hours.
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davelikestacos said:
I'm new to Android. I made a few posts on here making that abundantly clear (lol). I am just wondering, what exact part of the OS is the kernel? For example, I'm using LiquidSmooth with the default kernel that was included with that. If I were to flash the ktoonsez kernel, what changes would I see? Also, could someone point me to a site where I can download the KT kernel for LiquidSmooth 4.2.1 JellyBean Beta 2? What other kernels are there? What are the advantages of using them? And finally, where can I find them?
I'm looking for a way to conserve battery life right now, but not take away from how my phone currently looks. Sorry for asking such a stupid set of questions, but I'd like to know about this since I plan on sticking with Android. And if that's the case, I wanna learn all about the neat things I can do to make my phone customized, sleek looking, and effective.
Thanks in advance for helping out this new comer to the Android scene
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Check out the how to thread in general. Should be right up at the top... Great battery and great performance on the ktoonsz kernel with lots of different options! If I knew how to copy and paste the link from the stupid xda app, I would!
Edit: I am an idiot...here ya go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35101228
[Team Kernelizers] {how to} JB and TPR roms
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adamdelozier said:
Check out the how to thread in general. Should be right up at the top... Great battery and great performance on the ktoonsz kernel with lots of different options! If I knew how to copy and paste the link from the stupid xda app, I would!
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Long press the thread and click copy url :thumbup:
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Long press the thread and click copy url :thumbup:
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As edited above...I am an idiot! Haha
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Heres a battery life thread too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830157
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Here are some current stats using assorted tweaks from that thread. My screen shot app is horrible... Sorry for the sideways pic.
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adamdelozier said:
Here are some current stats using assorted tweaks from that thread. My screen shot app is horrible... Sorry for the sideways pic.
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I can't seem to see your thumbnail. Do I have to enable an option in the settings to view thumbnails?
And thanks for all the replies guys, I appreciate the input
davelikestacos said:
I can't seem to see your thumbnail. Do I have to enable an option in the settings to view thumbnails?
And thanks for all the replies guys, I appreciate the input
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Not that I know of...total batt time 1 day 10 hours. Screen on time 3 hours 45 minutes with about 15% left.
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1 day and 10 hours?! Wow! I'm lucky if I get 8-9 hours. I am going to start disabling WiFi when I am walking around though. I just flashed over to the KT kernel and I am going to try optimizing my settings with the ones that were in that Kernelizers thread.
davelikestacos said:
1 day and 10 hours?! Wow! I'm lucky if I get 8-9 hours. I am going to start disabling WiFi when I am walking around though. I just flashed over to the KT kernel and I am going to try optimizing my settings with the ones that were in that Kernelizers thread.
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Check out DS Battery Saver Pro. Handles WiFi disabling for you...less bloat than Juice defender. Screen filter helps with screen brightness...and I am undervolted pretty good too. Good luck! I am now at 1d 12 hr. 4:44 screen on. 2% batt left!
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adamdelozier said:
Check out DS Battery Saver Pro. Handles WiFi disabling for you...less bloat than Juice defender. Screen filter helps with screen brightness...and I am undervolted pretty good too. Good luck! I am now at 1d 12 hr. 4:44 screen on. 2% batt left!
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Awesome, installed the KT kernel and used the settings listed in the Kernelizers thread. I also installed DS Battery Saver Pro and now my battery life is amazing. Left my house at 7:05AM this morning and on my way to work over the course of the hour my battery dropped 3%. Usually, my battery would drop 10% - 15% during this time so I am VERY happy with the outcome.
Thanks for all the help guys
davelikestacos said:
Awesome, installed the KT kernel and used the settings listed in the Kernelizers thread. I also installed DS Battery Saver Pro and now my battery life is amazing. Left my house at 7:05AM this morning and on my way to work over the course of the hour my battery dropped 3%. Usually, my battery would drop 10% - 15% during this time so I am VERY happy with the outcome.
Thanks for all the help guys
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Glad it worked out! Did you undervolt yet...more battery savings there too...and very little drop in performance.
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