Hi
I just bought a S3 yeah \o/
Now my question, im under BELL, the phone was originaly from ROGERS. So i have all the rogers app, booo.
I know Jelly Bean is coming soon.
So my question is :
If i Root, and install CM10 by exemple, i know the the original Rom in the S3 have a lots of nice tweek and option.
if i install CM10, will i loose all those option and tweek ? Or those should already be in CM10 ????
Other scenario, if i wait for BELL to push Jellybean, will it get all the rogers app out ? And be a real bell phone after the push ?
Thanks
patthe said:
Hi
I just bought a S3 yeah \o/
Now my question, im under BELL, the phone was originaly from ROGERS. So i have all the rogers app, booo.
I know Jelly Bean is coming soon.
So my question is :
If i Root, and install CM10 by exemple, i know the the original Rom in the S3 have a lots of nice tweek and option.
if i install CM10, will i loose all those option and tweek ? Or those should already be in CM10 ????
Other scenario, if i wait for BELL to push Jellybean, will it get all the rogers app out ? And be a real bell phone after the push ?
Thanks
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What tweaks are you talking about? CM10 is based on AOSP so all Touch Wiz options are gone, for example all the Motion features are going to be gone, and the camera features and settings those are also going to be gone.
CM10 has its own features, but they are not the same as TW interface.
You will lose all of the "smart" features by flashing any cm10/aokp rom. You will also have all of the bloat apps from rogers removed.
another alternative would be to root the phone, and install titanium backup and just remove the bloat apps yourself using that app. If you wanted to keep all of the "smart" features.
Either way it is very simple to restore back to stock rom so you can receive the OTA jellybean update whenever it pops off. You simply download the firmware for the Rogers device (unrooted and stock recovery) and then flash that using odin and it will bring you back to stock so you can get the jb update.
**go here and search i747m and get the rogers stock rom if you ever wish to restore so you can get the ota jb update, even though when its released you will see a pile of roms built based off of it so you could just flash one of those to get jellybean goodness**
http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/
To get rid of rogers apps without root all I did was find them in application manager and disabled them.
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To the OP, you can root and not have to try one of the custom roms. If you really like some of the samsung features then try one of the roms that is based on the samsung touchwiz roms. AOSP based roms like CM10 will be missing many of the little things that samsung put in their phones.
Sounds like you want all the Samsung tweaks, so I'd go with Drewgaren's rom, found in the android development section for this device. It's a great ROM but I still prefer CM10.
As a big camera guy, I REALLY like the Samsung camera app, but the AOSP setup is a lot cleaner, faster, is better with google services and more uniform looking... Currently JB AOSP based stuff isn't perfect either as there is no GS3 JB source, I've used AOKP a lot and really like it, but with searching for a new job I really need to make sure I have a stable and bug free phone.
I have a nandroid of both and swap back and forth occasionally... I'm crazy!
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Thanks guys i might wait a little bit for the jelly bean soon maybe
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Jelly bean should be out for the AT&T S3 within the next couple of weeks.
definitly flash cm10. you'll loose touchwiz features like s voice, smart stay, ect because you are flashing an aosp rom. the advantage is that the rom is alot smaller and lighter so you get a huge speed increase and better battery life. if your worried about stability i can say from experience cm10 is currently much more stable than what i got from at&t out of the box.
make a nandroid before you flash so you can always flash back and recieve the ota when it comes out.
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If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?
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If someone can PLEASE answer this question for me I would really appreciate it. I recently rooted my S3 so I can download and use rooted apps. I also changed my battery and wifi icons to look like ICS's icons (the blue ones) and removed some the samsung applications with root uninstaller. Will updating to Jellybean ruin my phone or something? Would I need to re-root my phone after installing it when its released? I want to keep all my apps and information as well. I figure this would be a upgrade like how windows does it. T'm new to this just so you guys know.
From another thread someone mention about devs making JB roms for rooted phones which leaves me to my next question
When a dev pushes out the updated JB ROM how will that be different compare to how samsung does it? Will it remove all my apps and personal information?Or is it like upgrading a operating system like windows? Also would there version of JB be like a stock rom or like Samsung with touch wize. I still want my camera to work as well as wifi. I heard from other thread they dont seem to work when updating roms?
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Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.
Halmo said:
Any rom that a developer makes is not going to be an official release and therefore will need to be flashed, this will wipe everything. Usually when people flash roms they use a tool such as Titanium Backup to backup all their apps and stuff. If you don't want to lose any data you would have to wait for an OTA (over the air) update for JB, this will keep all your data in tact although to do a OTA update you have to have all the stock apps I believe.
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Im new to the terms.. isnt flash the same as install?
Also, I used Odin to root my phone, How would I go about flashing the JB rom to my phone? Hopefully I'm saying this right. The thing I dont get since Samsung is releasing JB to the s3 why would the JB work flawless with the s3. Couldnt they use the Nexus 7's JB and port it to the S3. I'm still trying to understand how all this works. I dont want to have any hardware issues, like my camera or wifi not working from what i heard in the past.
Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.
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Good for you on successfully rooting your phone and doing a few things to make it suit you more better. But you will have to do some searching and alot of reading to understand some more.
Right now your phone is rooted Samsung doesn't want to update your phone cause you've already kinda said I don't like the way you do things samsung by rooting your phone. If you want, you can unroot your phone and flash a stock jelly bean rom when and if it gets released and then re-root your phone and do some more changes if you need or want to with the new update. Issue with this is that you have to wait and it takes longer for Samsung to release updates than third party developers can create them, there are pros and cons to doing third party roms same with using stock manufacture releases. its all comes down to the person you are and what you want from your phone. No one can tell you what to do and what is right to do thats your choice because mainly there are lots of choices with these phones.
With that being said its rumoured that samsung will be releasing jelly bean faster than it did other updates, but thats a rumour still. I haven't been following the development of the SG3 lots as I'm pretty happy with my rooted ICS at the moment and don't mind waiting. I don't think there is a clean stable Jelly Bean rom out there at the moment, I know they are coming and are being worked on very hard but the great teams at XDA. I also know the international version has a little more support than the North American versions.
When and if you decide to get a third party rom there are different ways you can install or flash them. Developers will almost always have clear instructions on how to install them, usually requires you backing up cause you'll lose everything and downloading a zip file putting it onto your phone and installing it with Clock Work Mod, if you don't know what that is search for it there is lots of info on it. You can also flash the updates with odin but I believe Clock Work Mod "CWM" is the better way of doing it.
Also just because jelly bean is on other devices doesn't mean its easy to bring it over to another device there are hardware differences, especially between manufactures, features are different and lots and lots of other things, its not like windows and you cant put it onto any device and it just figures it out and works.
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I cant thank you enough for this reply. It was very informative! I been doing some research as well so I can get a better understanding on how these roms work. As sad as this sounds I found out cyanogenmod10 is basically a mod rom of jellybean. If these rumors are in fact true, would the jellybean release from samsung speed of the developing process for cyanogenmod10? Since they should share the same code or what not.
I think at this point I dont care to backup. All my pics are sync to my dropbox automatically and my can go to the playstore and redownload my payed apps there. So backing up is not needed with me.
Yeah, CM10 is a 4.1.1 rom as far as I know, I still have my old i9000 and installed it on it the other day. Its nice and has all the jelly bean features, I find it a bit laggy but all the functions work great. The laggyness is hard to say, the phone is old but they are also still porting over all the features, I think its a bit of both at the moment but since its not my daily main phone I don't play with it alot.
The Cyanogenmod is a great rom, and lots of third party roms are based off that rom just with other mods on top of it. Personally since its still a beta like it says in the forum i'm willing to wait and the rumours on jelly bean coming from samsung at the end of august seem to me more true by the day. And once that is released or leaked CM will be alot better faster. But you never know still waiting on ICS from those slow pokes on my tab 10.1 while in the mean time they have released two more tables with ICS haha.
So like i have said before its really up to you. You can install the beta and try it out, I know people are using it as a daily driver. And you can always flash back to stock.
was wondering if there was a way to install the s beam app for the gs3 rooted running a stock rom. i'm running aopk jelly bean and wanted to have the s beam feature. any ideas what to do?
If you want the stock Samsung apps like S Beam just Odin back to stock. From there root through Odin and as long as you don't flash any apps or anything you'll have a stock rooted ROM with all the S apps.
closest thing to s-beam right now afaik is the regular android beam. s-beam probably won't work on cm/aokp roms as it may be baked into samsungs framework. but then again maybe i'm wrong.
Ok now I'm thoroughly confused by the OP. He first asks if it's possible to have the S apps on a stock rooted ROM. Then it seems he wants it on a CM10 based ROM.
I think it's possible, but either not practical or the CM team has other priorities. When I first flashed CM9 on my SGS3 I was able to keep a few of the TW framework features, but lost them after a few days. No idea the cause or what actually was going in the background since I forgot to make a logcat and it's too late now.
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Ok now I'm thoroughly confused by the OP. He first asks if it's possible to have the S apps on a stock rooted ROM. Then it seems he wants it on a CM10 based ROM.
I think it's possible, but either not practical or the CM team has other priorities. When I first flashed CM9 on my SGS3 I was able to keep a few of the TW framework features, but lost them after a few days. No idea the cause or what actually was going in the background since I forgot to make a logcat and it's too late now.
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I think he means stock android. I would go by what he says he is running. AOKP
Hello.
Is there a stock AT&T firmware (rooted) without all the boat ? Something like "Clean ROM" ? I'm looking for this ROM and if it would have Google Wallet working, well .. that would be great! If this doesn't exist, what would be similar ?
Thanks in advance
You can try kyan rom i think that matches what you want perfectly
If you also want a slight speed increase you can try high on android.
Hope this helps
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Alternatively you can just root your stock rom, if you havent already and then use the Debloater app to remove what you dont want/need.
Rooting Guide
Debloater Mod Thread
After rooting you can also install titanium backup and freeze or uninstall any apps you don't want
I'm using Truine II 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich from Alliance rom (available in the android development section)...it works flawlessly and it looks perfectly stock without the bloats...and also has awesome beats throw in, that never hurts...
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Hello all, I hope I won't get too much flak for creating this thread but I'm hoping to save some time and effort if some of you are willing to help me out here.
My buddy had asked me recently if I could help him use his phone as a hotspot when he goes on vacation, and I suggested that he install a custom rom to get that function since for some reason a Sprint rep told him he couldn't do it (not sure on the whole story with that...).
Anyway, I'm not really a newbie on rooting/flashing as I have an older Galaxy S1 device that I constantly work on, but on the other hand that's about the only device I have experience with.
My questions are:
1) Is rooting/installing a custom rom the best way for him to use his phone as a hotspot? It seems to be built into every rom that I've had on my device.
2) What are the most popular (and stable) roms available for this device? I'm asking because I won't see him enough to flash updates and he's not really the type to do that.
3) Are there any serious risks to rooting/flashing this device? I'm spoiled with my older Galaxy S1 phone that has no problem going from rom to rom like it was it's job. He'll probably be upgrading soon, but I still don't want to break it.
Thanks for any input. Oh and I don't know if this matters, but I'm almost positive he's on stock ICS right now.
1. The hotspot app won't work on stock because he needs the plan with sprint to use it. There are 3rd party apps out there that can use your phone as a hotspot. Most roms have the wifi hotspot check disabled so you can use the app the rom came with. Be warned if sprint catches you tethering too much data they could cut you off.
2. Maybe look into the blu kuban rom. It's very stable, awesome battery life, and looks awesome. It also has a built in updater in case there is an update.
3. If you read the instructions you should be fine. There's really no downside besides the emmc brick bug which can render your phone useless but most (if not all) kernels have this patched. Also remember that this phone has the recovery image packed with the kernel.
Hope this helps.
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If you install stock/rooted gb27 jb you can use the EmperorX 4g hot spot mod.
Look up Emperor X in apps and themes, its not too complex to get working.
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Use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38199950
It works very well.
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The blu kuban rom looks good, but I didn't see any JB roms that looked all that great (feel free to correct me) and I see that Cyanogenmod doesn't officially support this device for some reason. Are there any mostly stable 4.1 or 4.2 roms that you would recommend or is ICS the way to go?
edit: I wasn't looking in the 'original development' forum and just noticed there's a lot of good 4.2 roms that I'm used to like slim, AOKP, etc, now my question is if I wanted to flash a new rom is it the same as I do on my phone- wipe data/cache/davlik then flash rom/gapps and reboot? Is it that simple on this phone too?
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The blu kuban rom looks good, but I didn't see any JB roms that looked all that great (feel free to correct me) and I see that Cyanogenmod doesn't officially support this device for some reason. Are there any mostly stable 4.1 or 4.2 roms that you would recommend or is ICS the way to go?
edit: I wasn't looking in the 'original development' forum and just noticed there's a lot of good 4.2 roms that I'm used to like slim, AOKP, etc, now my question is if I wanted to flash a new rom is it the same as I do on my phone- wipe data/cache/davlik then flash rom/gapps and reboot? Is it that simple on this phone too?
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If you have CWM 5 (gb or cm9) or CWM 6 (AOSP-based jellybean) you can just flash rom and gapps in recovery
If you do not have CWM 5 or 6 (anything touchwiz ICS+), you should use Mobile Odin or (less conveniently) PC Odin to flash the EL26+cwm kernel, then boot to recovery by holding vol+ and power. You can flash anything in EL26 recovery without incident
ok, so im not new to android mods, rom flashing, kernel flashing or any of that jazz...
ive had many android devices over the years and will continue to have more as long as android doesnt flop.. but i doubt that happening
my issue is this, i have a bone stock TW rooted i317m on 4.1.2, it has been unlocked using the perso sha method, and has been modified to work with wind mobile in ontario via the .qcn file flash method... the device is operating just fine, no problems...
what i want from this device is customization and the question im asking hopefully will be answered with respect and NO newb bashing or ignorance
this is my first note based device... i fell in love with all the TW features that relate to the s-pen and best photo/best face.. i want to install custom rom, and kernel, but im afraid im going to lose all the feature that i bought the note for...
i know about the apps "CM S-Pen detection add-on" & "S-Pen Helper"
but i dont want to lose most importantly the camera features, and id like to still be able to use s-note and such, but im not sure if this is possible unless using a TW stock rom
any ideas??
there are tw based roms like clean rom, best international (using this one)
if you flash a aosp rom all the tw stuff is gone!
I personally dont use half the tw stuff so i might flash an aosp rom soon just for fun. But I have a galaxy nexus to play around with as well
ok so i flashed clean rom,
now my next question
is there a sphere mode camera mod available,
i really miss this from my galaxy nexus when it was running PA3+, i busted the lcd and glass,
got my note 2 now, and would love to see this come to it
tnap1979 said:
ok so i flashed clean rom,
now my next question
is there a sphere mode camera mod available,
i really miss this from my galaxy nexus when it was running PA3+, i busted the lcd and glass,
got my note 2 now, and would love to see this come to it
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You can always download the 4.2 camera app.
Current Devices: At&t Samsung Galaxy Note, Verizon Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Asus Google Nexus 7 Super Tablet
Current Roms: CleanROM Ace 4.9 (Note 2), AOKP (Galaxy Nexus), Nexus 7 Stock
tnap1979 said:
ok, so im not new to android mods, rom flashing, kernel flashing or any of that jazz...
ive had many android devices over the years and will continue to have more as long as android doesnt flop.. but i doubt that happening
my issue is this, i have a bone stock TW rooted i317m on 4.1.2, it has been unlocked using the perso sha method, and has been modified to work with wind mobile in ontario via the .qcn file flash method... the device is operating just fine, no problems...
what i want from this device is customization and the question im asking hopefully will be answered with respect and NO newb bashing or ignorance
this is my first note based device... i fell in love with all the TW features that relate to the s-pen and best photo/best face.. i want to install custom rom, and kernel, but im afraid im going to lose all the feature that i bought the note for...
i know about the apps "CM S-Pen detection add-on" & "S-Pen Helper"
but i dont want to lose most importantly the camera features, and id like to still be able to use s-note and such, but im not sure if this is possible unless using a TW stock rom
any ideas??
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Clean rom is real good if you just want a debloated version of stock. Real fast and stable. It was my daily driver for a while.
I am really into all the customization so I am running JEDI and NOVELLA now. Both are TW based and have a ton of MODs out for it.
As for the camera 4.2 is good too