Hello, i palyed nova on my desire hd and it was ok, a bit laggy. Now i started plaing on nexus 7 and its... more laggy with hiper ultra graphic.... is there any way to turn graphic a bit down? I know on order and chaos its enaught to change optimozation=1 to optimizaton=3 in phonelist.txt but i have no idea for nova. My nexus is all stock.
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What battery life you got when playing? As I find all my games lag under 25-30% really strange
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Its the same with 80 as 25 or 50. Just bad. OR gameloft didnt optimized yet nova 3...
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Gameloft did not optimize the game for Tegra3.
Combine that with the fact that tegra3 has an abysmal memory bandwidth and a weak GPU.
The only reason google chose tegra3 for N7 is because it's the cheapest quad core SoC available.
So i hope in nexus 10 with S4 quad...... but forn now.... didmt gameloft said they will optimize nova3, mc3 and few other games specificly for n7?
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Tarhaomenapuu said:
So i hope in nexus 10 with S4 quad...... but forn now.... didmt gameloft said they will optimize nova3, mc3 and few other games specificly for n7?
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you gotta root your N7 and install the clemsyn kernel to get the most out of gameloft titles. you don't even need to oc the cpu it's what he has done with the gpu that matters. clemsyn has two different versions a 650mhz gpu that i use and a 700mhz gpu just released either one will make nova3 play with no issues. you can also play asphalt7 with the high rez maps enabled which are off by default. trust me the clemsyn kernels are gaming kernels and they WORK.
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The tegra 3 isn't slow by any means. Its that the game is not optimized at all. Its specifically related to Gameloft games. Phones with weaker gpus run it fine. The tegra 3 has plenty of power to run it.
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runs fine here with any kernel ive tried with the stock, aosp, or rasbean jelly roms. try redownloading the game data.
Sorry but i dont mean changing kernel or rom.... not on freash fully supported device...
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Tarhaomenapuu said:
Sorry but i dont mean changing kernel or rom.... not on freash fully supported device...
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no, dont change the kernel or rom, try redownloading/reinstalling the game/data.
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The tegra 3 isn't slow by any means. Its that the game is not optimized at all. Its specifically related to Gameloft games. Phones with weaker gpus run it fine. The tegra 3 has plenty of power to run it.
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+1 my gs2 runs it like a champ as well as my buddys metropcs esteem
Ok, ill redownload, i have to change tab due to omfg screen lift anyway.
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darkchazz said:
Gameloft did not optimize the game for Tegra3.
Combine that with the fact that tegra3 has an abysmal memory bandwidth and a weak GPU.
The only reason google chose tegra3 for N7 is because it's the cheapest quad core SoC available.
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ok for memory bandwith,but i don't think the tegra3 gpu is "weak".i can play good games with a power vr 540 on mine 2 gnex,with the tegra3 gpu i have wonderful graphic,especially with tegra optimized games.honestly s3 mali apart,i think geforce ulp is the best ATM .don't think adreno 225 is better that ours..only a rivisited 220 with directx support.and the fact of have tegra optimized games for me it'a good think.i was totally unsatisfied with tegra2 Soc,but with tegra3 in a device like n7,i'm good to go.i play nova without problem,not have like op sad
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ok for memory bandwith,but i don't think the tegra3 gpu is "weak".i can play good games with a power vr 540 on mine 2 gnex,with the tegra3 gpu i have wonderful graphic,especially with tegra optimized games.honestly s3 mali apart,i think geforce ulp is the best ATM .don't think adreno 225 is better that ours..only a rivisited 220 with directx support.and the fact of have tegra optimized games for me it'a good think.i was totally unsatisfied with tegra2 Soc,but with tegra3 in a device like n7,i'm good to go.i play nova without problem,not have like op sad
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Yeah, and the tegra 3 does a great job with the 2d rendering of android 4.0+. The adreno accelerates very little of the interface and the Mali (friends epic 4g touch) while fast was never as smooth as my nexus on cyanogenmod even with that low res screen.
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Nova 3 and most other Gameloft games have always run like dodo on my N7 and Prime (both tegra 3 devices), its not your hardware, custom kernels do help a little but not nearly enough to provide an enjoyable game experience, I'm gonna assume most who say Nova 3 runs fine with no lag, are more casual gamers rather then hard core gamers, this group generally accepts that anything over 15 FPS is "smooth gameplay to them", which is hardly smooth to me, as i'm in the group labelled hard core gamer. To me smooth is 60 FPS and above, the higher the FPS the smoother the gameplay is gonna feel, also micro stutters/freezes and pauses is not smooth, the term smooth is subjective...granted there isnt a FRAPS type utility for android however if you are a experienced hard core gamer you can generally estimate the FPS your getting, Nova on my N7 along with most other Gameloft games I'd say runs anywhere between 15- 40 FPS, if it was optimized it would alot smoother much like shadowgun dead trigger run, or Dark Meadow on the Unreal 3 engine.
casual gamers or hardcore gamers like you,when a person play a games and say that it's smooth,it's smooth and stop,i don't know why we should be hardcore gamers only to see if a games lags or not.Anyway i'm triyng few games of gameloft (not tegra optimized) and i admit that nova 3 it isn't perfect,need a bit of optimization yet.on mine gnex instaed runs very well,with power vr sgx 540 overclocked at 512 mhz
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Nova 3 and most other Gameloft games have always run like dodo on my N7 and Prime (both tegra 3 devices), its not your hardware, custom kernels do help a little but not nearly enough to provide an enjoyable game experience, I'm gonna assume most who say Nova 3 runs fine with no lag, are more casual gamers rather then hard core gamers, this group generally accepts that anything over 15 FPS is "smooth gameplay to them", which is hardly smooth to me, as i'm in the group labelled hard core gamer. To me smooth is 60 FPS and above, the higher the FPS the smoother the gameplay is gonna feel, also micro stutters/freezes and pauses is not smooth, the term smooth is subjective...granted there isnt a FRAPS type utility for android however if you are a experienced hard core gamer you can generally estimate the FPS your getting, Nova on my N7 along with most other Gameloft games I'd say runs anywhere between 15- 40 FPS, if it was optimized it would alot smoother much like shadowgun dead trigger run, or Dark Meadow on the Unreal 3 engine.
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I recently put together an Anti-Lag mod of this game which you can download form here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L40UZCTDC0
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This includes Modern Combat 3, Dungeon Hunter 3, MIB 3, The Amazing SpiderMan, Ice age, Nova 3 & many more. Hope that some of this games work fine on HOX
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Game...-optimized-for-Googles-Nexus-7-tablet_id32493
and what does this mean? many of these games r not even out on the one x
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and what does this mean? many of these games r not even out on the one x
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I think it means that if it's optimized for the Nexus 7, which is a Tegra 3 device, it's also optimized for our HOX.
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I think it means that if it's optimized for the Nexus 7, which is a Tegra 3 device, it's also optimized for our HOX.
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I've tried a few of these 'optimised' games on my N7... They still run much better on a sensation... Pisstake...
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I've tried a few of these 'optimised' games on my N7... They still run much better on a sensation... Pisstake...
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this was my question maybe they meant coming soon
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I've tried a few of these 'optimised' games on my N7... They still run much better on a sensation... Pisstake...
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That's just crazy, you think Gameloft would want to sort its games out so they work properly on the flagship device of one of the world's biggest phone manufacturers, not to mention the official google tablet uses the same processor.
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That's just crazy, you think Gameloft would want to sort its games out so they work properly on the flagship device of one of the world's biggest phone manufacturers, not to mention the official google tablet uses the same processor.
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Well yea you'd think so... Gamelofts version of optimising for nexus 7 means allowing it to run it. It's not optimised at all. For example, there was a hox version of modern combat 3, which ran beautifully. Nexus 7 play store downloads a version that runs like a really quick slide show. nova 3 on the hox, the version I tried, had all effects like the iphone4 version. It did run like crap also. The nexus play store version runs similar, but doesn't have the smoke and lighting effects. Dark knight runs steppy, etc...etc... Hamdir is running a thread to make tegra games 60fps... This is a whole other issue, getting games above 30fps on a cutting edge chipset. Especially as I've seen my friend play nova 3 on his sensation at what I perceived as 60fps. It looked amazing!!
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Well yea you'd think so... Gamelofts version of optimising for nexus 7 means allowing it to run it. It's not optimised at all. For example, there was a hox version of modern combat 3, which ran beautifully. Nexus 7 play store downloads a version that runs like a really quick slide show. nova 3 on the hox, the version I tried, had all effects like the iphone4 version. It did run like crap also. The nexus play store version runs similar, but doesn't have the smoke and lighting effects. Dark knight runs steppy, etc...etc... Hamdir is running a thread to make tegra games 60fps... This is a whole other issue, getting games above 30fps on a cutting edge chipset. Especially as I've seen my friend play nova 3 on his sensation at what I perceived as 60fps. It looked amazing!!
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man again u r not being fair, I played on the sensation its 60fps with every effect disabled, n I mean dead flat no reflection on any surface
mass effect v1.30 on the hox had much less effect n ran over 60fps
also sgs3 runs nova3 at 60fps with everything on, ripetide runs very badly
effects on the hox for nova is a luck issue the game gets confused by the 3d dots menu and turns them on
with a custom kernel like faux004b6 nova3 runs very well
the gaming app, faux kernel and my guide proves there is nothing wrong with tegra its just software issues
all HTC has to do is include a performance profile
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man again u r not being fair, I played on the sensation its 60fps with every effect disabled, n I mean dead flat no reflection on any surface
mass effect v1.30 on the hox had much less effect n ran over 60fps
also sgs3 runs nova3 at 60fps with everything on, ripetide runs very badly
effects on the hox for nova is a luck issue the game gets confused by the 3d dots menu and turns them on
with a custom kernel like faux004b6 nova3 runs very well
the gaming app, faux kernel and my guide proves there is nothing wrong with tegra its just software issues
all HTC has to do is include a performance profile
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I believe I'm being pretty fair? Gameloft need to pull their finger it and get optimising for tegra. Whilst I get what youre doing on hox, and the need for performance profiles, the same issues with Gameloft games are present on the nexus 7, whikt tegra games are just smoother out of the box than hox was. Its gamelofts issues here, not tegra.
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I believe I'm being pretty fair? Gameloft need to pull their finger it and get optimising for tegra. Whilst I get what youre doing on hox, and the need for performance profiles, the same issues with Gameloft games are present on the nexus 7, whikt tegra games are just smoother out of the box than hox was. Its gamelofts issues here, not tegra.
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oh sorry i misunderstand
if you were attacking Gameloft, please be my guest, they shouldn't be doing games for mobile
2GB file sizes and their games still look outdated despite all the hype
meanwhile some levels in Dead trigger are simply ps3 quality @ 100MB! respect!
Is there anyway to overclock the GPU on the SGH-i747M?
It uses the Adreno 225, which I've found a tad laggy on a few games (notably Ultra-High Graphics on Dead Trigger).
Also is there anyway to get Tegra 3 Graphics on all games? I know about Chainfire and how it won't work. But is there a way to say, get Riptide GP to have Tegra 3 Graphic effects, like Motion Blur and Water Splashes?
The Tegra 3 doesn't handle the game very well :/
Anyways, that's it. Let the "A"'s begin!
Jeez...I am surprised that no one has responded! After my tests, I feel that CF3d killed the graphics performance, even after using multiple plugins, settings and dumps. The game I am mainly testing it on is Asphalt 7 as I am looking for a battery friendly setting.
I watched a video of gamplay but on note 2 and S3 runs only on high graphics there is no very high like in nexus 4 and xperia z and other devices like s4 and htc one. Are the note 2 and S3 out of dated, and is the MALI-400MP so bad it cant run this game which graphic is simillar to GTA Vice City on the maximum like the other devices? I dont play alot of games but this is stupid those devices are 6-7 months old and they are out dated or this is only made by gameloft cuz they sux in optimising there games for the smartphones with exynos processors. What is your opinion?
*Gameloft logic* no one can understand it
btw note 2 can handle the game better than most of the devices including Nexus 4 and XZ
My mistake Snapdragon S4 cant run it on Very High too (adreno 320) So it looks like gameloft failed again like asphalt 7 and also not optimising games for tegra 3.
Tried To Run This Game On Captivate
I have tried to run this game on captivate on stock rom, it was running on it with low graphics(but Lagging), but it was playable. Is there any way to run it without lag. by installing some custom rom or anything
Gangstar Vegas suks...
I was so disappointed by the graphics, it looks hideous on my note 2 even with edge enhancement and color correction(via perseus kernel)...The draw distance is terrible as in trees and houses just pop up within a really short radius,The textures suck bad,this is more noticeable because the character model is really good(with edge enhancement),The size is crazy for the quality of graphics
Basically don't waste your space,money or bandwidth for this game until someone or gameloft(motherfuks) fix this nonsense of a game...
The game was just downloading and reached 800MB and by seeing your comment I feel like stopping and deleting the game..because I dont want to waste all that space for a game not being good(just on note 2)
Gameloft so disappointing nowadays..Note 2 has 2GB RAM+1.6Ghz qaud-core+Mali 400MP and runs on 4.1.2 so how comes they provide better quality to phones like nexus 4 which has only 1GB RAM and is slower than note 2 in every aspect
Hating Gameloft for their useless and unpleasant policies in supporting devices
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GTA Vice City have better graphics and run with 60 FPs on maximum graphics, maximum resolution 100% draw distance. So gameloft must optimise their games first and then to put them in the playstore.
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The game was just downloading and reached 800MB and by seeing your comment I feel like stopping and deleting the game..because I dont want to waste all that space for a game not being good(just on note 2)
Gameloft so disappointing nowadays..Note 2 has 2GB RAM+1.6Ghz qaud-core+Mali 400MP and runs on 4.1.2 so how comes they provide better quality to phones like nexus 4 which has only 1GB RAM and is slower than note 2 in every aspect
Hating Gameloft for their useless and unpleasant policies in supporting devices
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Nexus 4 1gb ram? Slower? Ahahaha :laugh:
Deal with it. Note 2 have Mali-400 which is the worst ( i didn't said the slower) gpu ever. Rendering colors at 16bits isn't good ..
YES! there is
harsharjeria said:
I have tried to run this game on captivate on stock rom, it was running on it with low graphics(but Lagging), but it was playable. Is there any way to run it without lag. by installing some custom rom or anything
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To play this game without lag on gs3 i9300 i installed cm10.1 and there was no lag at all it was like gta vc but i hate the controls of gangstar vegas
Instalk cm10.1 and iverclock if kernel supports it wont lag
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Not sure what you saw & what device it was on but the graphics in Vegas are MUCH better than any ofbthe GTAs including the newest San Andreas. Its make GTA look very dated. Though even on my HTC One M7 the draw distances are horrible & things just pop up as stated. Its obviously a coding problem because its the same weather on very high or medium graphics. So its just poor all the time. If it was the device being pushed to hard lowering the graphics would improve things it does not. But as long as your not in a vehicle moving fast its butter Smooth even on very high on the M7. But again its no where close to the GTA games the textures, models, & lighting are significantly better in the Gangstar game. I own both & play both.
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I watched a video of gamplay but on note 2 and S3 runs only on high graphics there is no very high like in nexus 4 and xperia z and other devices like s4 and htc one. Are the note 2 and S3 out of dated, and is the MALI-400MP so bad it cant run this game which graphic is simillar to GTA Vice City on the maximum like the other devices? I dont play alot of games but this is stupid those devices are 6-7 months old and they are out dated or this is only made by gameloft cuz they sux in optimising there games for the smartphones with exynos processors. What is your opinion?
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Hope that gangstar Vegas gets optimised more in future
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Hey guys, many of you will know that most games you play lack in FPS, most commonly in NFS most wanted or real racing 3, heck ive even see people say Temple run lags.
Some people say, Developers need to make the games work with the 16 core GPU as its not that common.
I looked it up, and it turns out that even though its a 16 core GPU it isnt even nearly as good as the Adreno 320 found in the nexus 4, Xperia Z etc and that the CPU Isnt as good as last years processors ( SD S4 Pro, Nvidia Quad core Tegra 3 )
to be fair I already knew that the Processor wasnt that good, but for anyone who says that their games arent running well its because of that.
I have to give a hand to Huawei though, in there recent firmware updates the benchmark scores have been getting higher, which is great meaning the processor, RAM and GPU are all working a little bit better then they were before.
Im just curious as to how long they can keep updating it to be better, it wont take long until mainstream games require a minimum of the equivalent of the Adreno 330.
Ive also read that the Huawei Ascend P6 + is it? The phablet version will have a better processor clocked at 1.6ghz and maybe a better GPU?
Anyone got any more info? or do games run well enough for you not to care?
Let me know
- Jack
The gaming performance is mixed. See this video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HH8LskTQQWA
As you can see, some high graphics demanding games work well while others not. I don't game on mobile so didn't try any gaming except two days ago with Shadowgun: deadzone. I use B118. While on the video above, it only complains about glitches on panning, but for me oddly the whole graphics was corrupted and unplayable. Maybe someone with B117 or B116 Roms could check if shadowgun works better.
But I still doubt its a problem with the processor. Because the benchmarks are close to the Nexus 4 and S3. I doubt also there are any games made that would not be compatible with those devices and hence if it can work on that, it should work on the P6. It would take another year atleast before game developers plan to ignore Nexus 4 and Samsung S3.** Hence problem seems to come down to optimization.* (Also, with the shadowgun updating itself a week ago, they have officially said that the new update has problem with all Samsungs devices cause of its GPU and they would come with a fix. This could be the same issue with P6 that these games haven't been made to optimize for Vivante GC 4000.)
Furthermore, I also think that the unique abilities of the Huawei like the 64bit memory etc are not being taken advantage off because of other processors lacking it.
As for news on K3V3 and K3V2 Pro processor and the new P6S, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487791
It's not a good gpu, never has been, it is not optimized for almost anything, because there are only 2 phones that use this gpu. The cpu isnt that fast either. A Nexus 4 (Which costs as much as P6) is way better in performance, support, user customisations, stock rom etc.
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It's not a good gpu, never has been, it is not optimized for almost anything, because there are only 2 phones that use this gpu. The cpu isnt that fast either. A Nexus 4 (Which costs as much as P6) is way better in performance, support, user customisations, stock rom etc.
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The nexus 4 is almost half the price at £159 for the 8gb and the huawei ascend P6 retails at £329 ( although its gone down from £329 too £309 to £279 )
The nexus 4 seems like the better option, ive had one, they're quick, good looking but the battery sucks and so does the camera.
Honestly, the only reason i want a P6 is the amazing build, i want a metal phone so badly ! and apparently the camera isnt half bad
Optimization seems to be the problem. Agreed. But can it be solved by firmware updates ? Or is it totally dependent on game developers ? Android 4.4 brings better optimizations including for games supposedly. So that would be one option im looking forward too. So if android is better optimized maybe soon the super power processors would get tough to differentiate on usage performance and would become less important.
If the GPU is inherently bad, then how can the likes of real racing 3, asphalt 8, modern warfare 4 work perfectly fine on it ?
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If the GPU is inherently bad, then how can the likes of real racing 3, asphalt 8, modern warfare 4 work perfectly fine on it ?
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I just played Asphalt 7 on the P6...lagging in menu's and in gameplay...
Engineers at HUAWEI screwed up a bit when chosing the GPU for otherwise pretty nice chip. While the GPU has an ok performance, since its olny present on very few devices, devs aren't showing much love. This is understandable, because I can see why devs wouldn't want to spend resources on optimizing their app for a GPU noone really has.
Since I don't use my device for gaming, I'm quite satisfied with my purchase.
Performance comparison of the GPU: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2671145379?lp=5027&is_bakan=0&mo_device=1
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Shadowgun: Deadzone works like this on my B118.
Any idea why the green man walking in screen happens ? I get in black too. And odd part is that i have seen users getting this problem when they play temple run even though there are other users including online reviews that find temple run working very smooth and fluid.
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Shadowgun: Deadzone works like this on my B118.
Any idea why the green man walking in screen happens ? I get in black too. And odd part is that i have seen users getting this problem when they play temple run even though there are other users including online reviews that find temple run working very smooth and fluid.
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i have the solution delete cache of the game this is because the game try to save textures in sd card or something like that
Hi, lags in games are because Huawei runs a QEMU'd "Android Emulator" called Goldfish. Its same emulator as used by Android SDK on our computers
They also patched the Kernel for avoid flickering. Witch is needed if using real GPU in Goldfish.
Both in that mix are Horrorful for whole system Performance.
U can see this really bad on Benchmarks and heavy 3D Games.
GPU is faster as Tegra 3 (May about 30%) belive it or not
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Hi, lags in games are because Huawei runs a QEMU'd "Android Emulator" called Goldfish. Its same emulator as used by Android SDK on our computers
They also patched the Kernel for avoid flickering. Witch is needed if using real GPU in Goldfish.
Both in that mix are Horrorful for whole system Performance.
U can see this really bad on Benchmarks and heavy 3D Games.
GPU is faster as Tegra 3 (May about 30%) belive it or not
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Yea must say im disappointed with GPU power on my P6 :/. My old SII is better in games :/
Is it really? I have no problem with graphics on it. If I want to play a game I generally use my PC. The P6 plays the little games perfectly.
Even Qualcomms new mid range 1.4ghz quad core processor is getting better antutu scores
http://androidcommunity.com/qualcom...rocessor-aimed-at-mid-range-devices-20131101/
I hope trace is right in that the kernal and so on are messed up by Huawei and hence the Huawei processors underperforming than what it really can. But more than games im actually looking out for the processor doing something special using up its unique capabilities like 64bit memory, more cores, and so on. Thereby allowing features like touchless control and advanced programming capabilities, better user interface performance and better battery management. Phones like Moto x and iPhones seem to perform much advanced even though they don't carry the highest end specs. And I would like such smart performance.
4 part series in-depth look into Vivante GPU:
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/09/11/vivante-gpu-tech-2d-uis/
Another review:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Vivante-Challenging-the-Status-Quo-In-Mobile-GPUs/
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4 part series in-depth look into Vivante GPU:
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/09/11/vivante-gpu-tech-2d-uis/
Another review:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Vivante-Challenging-the-Status-Quo-In-Mobile-GPUs/
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Nice.
P6 has 64bit Memory Hardware, but its scaled down to 32bits while processing cause Java cant use
Phone Hardware is a beast even if GPU based on Adreno200. This is 16Core, orginal Adreno200 is 1-2Core.
Dual sim version
Is huawei ascend P6 dual sim version released???
This GPU is really good in physics, better then my wifes optimus g with adreno 320. And if u run YouiLabs Shader Test, adreno wont even start the BALL test. Looks like adreno cant handle it. So this gpu seems be great in shaders and physics.
Hello,
I would like to ask about overclocking my device - Zenfone 2 ZE550ML 720p (1,8GHz/2GB RAM). Im playing games on my phone a lot when Im on the trips and later the newest games are started lagging like.. Order and Chaos 2, Dungeon Hunter 5 or Eternity Warriors 4 arent running flawlessly either.
I wanted to ask if I can overclock my CPU and GPU to higher values to get better performance since CPU model is Z3560 (1,8GHz) is almost the same as Z3580 with 2,3GHz and Z3570 got highest GPU frequency with 640Mhz - we got 544MHz or so?)
Samsung Note 5 or Iphone 6 can run these games without any issue why our device cant? :|
Also dungeon hunter 5 looks really awful like on my old Mali 450 device and my friend with S6 got a lot better graphics .. (resolution looks like 480p on mine - textures are really bad)..
Is there any way how to overclock CPU/GPU or its locked by Intel? Should I try custom ROM to get better performance in games or it would make it even worse?
Zenfone 2 got highest GFX Bench values for GPU its over S6/Note5/Iphone6/OneplusOne.. but games are running better on these devices..
Thank you for your help.. my device isnt roother either flashed to another rom Im running on stock but I have no problem rooting my device as long as I can play games without lag.
Intel needs optimisation i think...
Anyone please answer ?
Thanks
The iPhone 6 and Galaxy S6 have better GPUs. The ZenFone 2 uses the same GPU as the iPhone 5S, and it's slightly better than the Adreno 330 used in the Galaxy S5 and the LG G3.
For GFXBench, makes sure you're comparing the "Offscreen" scores.
Well thank you for the answer but I didnt ask for this.. I know what GPU CPU RAM ROM etc.. this phone got. I wouldnt buy it if I didnt do little research. Why I should check Offscreen values when I got 720p display ? Its just nonsense or games are rendered for 1080px in default? Cannot be true..
Onscreen value is the one that we should compare. And there are only 2 phones that can beat Zenfone 2 ZE550ML... so why games are lagging.. while it doesnt on other phones.
Its not overclockable until today. Kernel can set higher clockspeed but the SOC (GPU&CPU) will not run faster than spec clock.
Laggy games
what there is experience if we play the game, then zenfone 2 will feel the heat and the games that we play becomes laggy? does anyone have a solution?
Thank you.
Check Project T. They have an under/overclocked kernel. It goes up to 2ghz. It's not much, but makes a difference. Only read about it, so I don't know if they overclocked the gpu as well.
Rageweawer said:
Well thank you for the answer but I didnt ask for this.. I know what GPU CPU RAM ROM etc.. this phone got. I wouldnt buy it if I didnt do little research. Why I should check Offscreen values when I got 720p display ? Its just nonsense or games are rendered for 1080px in default? Cannot be true..
Onscreen value is the one that we should compare. And there are only 2 phones that can beat Zenfone 2 ZE550ML... so why games are lagging.. while it doesnt on other phones.
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You were comparing to the Note 5 and iPhone 6, both phones have much more powerful GPUs.
And the offscreen scores just give you a uniform comparison for different GPUs.
But Note 5, Edge and S6 got 2K display my Zenfone ZE550ML is 720p so there isnt any way why this phone would need stronger GPU. When I benchmark GFXBench Im at the same values or at better values than these phones.. its not really about the stronger GPU.. I dont want to be rude guys but Im complete newbie in this and I think that I got more knowledge than all of you. When you are playing game then onscreen value is counted you arent playing on 2K when you have only 720p display.. thats why ZE550ML with 720p display got bigger 3D score than 1080px version ZE551ML.
As i said, this is a intel chip and the Houdini conversion must probably still have some improvement.
For me, this is a software issue....
Rageweawer said:
But Note 5, Edge and S6 got 2K display my Zenfone ZE550ML is 720p so there isnt any way why this phone would need stronger GPU. When I benchmark GFXBench Im at the same values or at better values than these phones.. its not really about the stronger GPU.. I dont want to be rude guys but Im complete newbie in this and I think that I got more knowledge than all of you. When you are playing game then onscreen value is counted you arent playing on 2K when you have only 720p display.. thats why ZE550ML with 720p display got bigger 3D score than 1080px version ZE551ML.
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wow.. but in reality those devices still beats us.. blame the x86 or intel chipset then.. maybe the games is slower because it needs to be translated from ARM to x86 in zf2.. and another thing, our CPU antutu score is only around 46-48k for ze551ml, you cant compare S6 with 60k antutu.. CPU influences GPU performance too..
cangcan said:
wow.. but in reality those devices still beats us.. blame the x86 or intel chipset then.. maybe the games is slower because it needs to be translated from ARM to x86 in zf2.. and another thing, our CPU antutu score is only around 46-48k for ze551ml, you cant compare S6 with 60k antutu.. CPU influences GPU performance too..
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Btw these are becoz, games are not well optimised for power vr gpu and x86 sadly... Gameloft optimize much for mali gpu, as they teamed up, while many games optimized for adreno
And graphics benchmarks using cpu and gpu not just gpu.. So the scores they scored are including cpu, gpu.. .
Well Im gonna wait for Snapdragon 820 and then I will buy a new phone.. or I will pick Meizu 5 Pro with Exynos 7420.. I though Zenfone 2 will be good device for another 2 years in case of gaming but I got this device for 6 months and games started lagging.. because this phone isnt strong enough thats so sad.. I even skipped ZE551ML for only ZE550ML to have 720p display so FPS in games would be better.. but this phone cant even run newest games on full fps.
Can someone verify if its only my problem that games are lagging or its because of the low power of this device? (Maybe someone who got CM12.1 can check if there is better performance?)
Games:
Dungeon Hunter 5
Order and Chaos 2
Eternity Warriors 4
Asphalt 8 (started lagging little bit too after last update on highest settings)
Every game from this list is play-able but for example Dungeon Hunter 5 got really bad graphic and feels like 15 FPS, same goes for Eternity Warriors 4 and Order and Chaos 2 is running normally like 60 FPS and then lag for a second and making it really awful to play.
Thanks
Rageweawer said:
Well Im gonna wait for Snapdragon 820 and then I will buy a new phone.. or I will pick Meizu 5 Pro with Exynos 7420.. I though Zenfone 2 will be good device for another 2 years in case of gaming but I got this device for 6 months and games started lagging.. because this phone isnt strong enough thats so sad.. I even skipped ZE551ML for only ZE550ML to have 720p display so FPS in games would be better.. but this phone cant even run newest games on full fps.
Can someone verify if its only my problem that games are lagging or its because of the low power of this device? (Maybe someone who got CM12.1 can check if there is better performance?)
Games:
Dungeon Hunter 5
Order and Chaos 2
Eternity Warriors 4
Asphalt 8 (started lagging little bit too after last update on highest settings)
Every game from this list is play-able but for example Dungeon Hunter 5 got really bad graphic and feels like 15 FPS, same goes for Eternity Warriors 4 and Order and Chaos 2 is running normally like 60 FPS and then lag for a second and making it really awful to play.
Thanks
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Not to be rude or anything. But I guess it goes with the saying... "you get what you paid for".... Technically and almost often, the more you pay the more you get. Ip6 and s6 are not eligible comparison to zf2 for 3 reasons.
1. Specs
2. Price
3. They both belong to high end high price phones while zf2 belongs to the mid range.
Just my two cents.
I have never noticed these game stutters and problems other people seem to have. I don't game on my phone much these days, but my 550 and my memo pad 7 me572 (same ram and same atom 3560 as the 550 but 1200p display) have had no trouble with games when ever I have.
If u are in stock rom just go to power saver app and use the customized mode ..... Use high performance and extend battery standby by choosing only the apps u wantbto give uodates in background in notification panel
Performance will improve and no change in battery
livewire168 said:
Not to be rude or anything. But I guess it goes with the saying... "you get what you paid for".... Technically and almost often, the more you pay the more you get. Ip6 and s6 are not eligible comparison to zf2 for 3 reasons.
1. Specs
2. Price
3. They both belong to high end high price phones while zf2 belongs to the mid range.
Just my two cents.
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Well I would never buy iPhone 6 or S6.. because S6 here in Czech republic (Europe) cost over 1000 USD while Meizu 5 Pro will cost around 500-550 USD and performs better than S6 with the same hardware.. I got my ZE550ML almost the first day that it was released for 260 USD. I was doing a big research especially about the gaming performance and I found that Zenfone 2 is out performing every mobile phone even One Plus One - the flag ship killer. Because its 720p display ZE550ML had the most FPS in every syntetic 3D benchmark. There simply wasnt stronger phone at the time I bough this phone for 3D performance.
Thats why I also dont get it why games laggs on this phone while FPS is so high... S6 got 2k display and got lower onscreen FPS values than Zenfone 2 onscreen. Why is game lagging then. I had no problem to pay 500USD for a phone that could run every game flawlessly for around 1,5 year.. and I though Zenfone with these FPS values was enough so why would I buy 1000 USD or 500 USD phone when Zenfone for 260 USD had the most FPS ? If zenfone 2 had 20 FPS average and 500 USD phone had 60 FPS I would definetly buy 500 USD phone.. but when ZF2 had 35 FPS in TRex and 500 USD phone had 30 FPS.
Thats why I didnt get any MT6752/3 phone with Mali T760 / 720 (MP2?) because they are getting like 7 FPS and cost 150-200USD (almost same as ZF2 - they got even higher antutu because of the CPU but GPU is just trash in MTK SoC).
I will get new Letv/Meizu/Xiaomi for 450 USD that should be released in about 2 months I hope so.. but now Im finding if there is a way that ZF 2 can be capable of playing these games without lags.
- Overclock
- ROM change
- Factory reset ? (I guess it wouldnt help)
- ??
android lover 2000 said:
If u are in stock rom just go to power saver app and use the customized mode ..... Use high performance and extend battery standby by choosing only the apps u wantbto give uodates in background in notification panel
Performance will improve and no change in battery
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There is zero performance incerase even if I play games in ultra power safe mode they are just running the same as in performance mode.. looks like placeholder for "newbie" people.
Hmm... in this case, something is wrong with your phone. On mine, its a clear difference.