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Win xp on ours Diamond phones?

I was digging over internet , may is a ported win xp image for ours Diamonds, but ... nothing. Maybe I was not so good to search ... and someone know?
Tnk s.
Your kindness MadQueen.

I think there is no xp port for diamond(because the specs of the device itself)
CMIIW

see if you can get a virtual machine for the mobile processor architecture. then emulate an x86 processor and load XP in that.
i'll tell you though it wont be a full xp. and it will be slower than a slow thing.

There are currently no versions of Windows XP which run on the ARM processor, and as recently as 6 weeks ago Microsoft wouldn't comment on any plans to ever do one (see this article http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/03/13/3-reasons-microsoft-shouldnt-port-windows-arm-processor).
Even if they did, RAM requirements and the amount of disk writes the OS naturally does would make the Diamond REALLY work to offer even a mediocre performance standard.
On the subject of emulation....seriously???? I promise you, you're talking about taking a pretty advanced instruction set (x86) and running it on the arm processor (comparatively a child). It's easy to emulate current ARM processing on your current x86 processor, but it doesn't go the other way. I think I have read that some people have done this on some more powerful test hardware before, but the start-up time alone on your phone will be measured in hours, not minutes. If you seriously think this is worth trying, it's theoretically possible today by loading an ARM-compiled version of linux onto the phone (I seem to remember reading a thread about this a while back) and running something like virtualbox to emulate windows. In 6 months, after the install onto the memory card is complete (remember, phone memory alone will certainly be too small), let me know if it starts.

kingoldstyle said:
I was digging over internet , may is a ported win xp image for ours Diamonds, but ... nothing. Maybe I was not so good to search ... and someone know?
Tnk s.
Your kindness MadQueen.
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forget wm and buy the viliv s5

i have heard that win98 is working fine on diamond,i would love to check that but i dont know how!

benko286 said:
i have heard that win98 is working fine on diamond,i would love to check that but i dont know how!
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LOL. This was 1st of aprils joke)))

Well it is April but not the 1st.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362344

Win seven rom for s620

Dear All,
Can we expect that in future we will have the ROM of win7 for Excalibure?
Thanks

Little something to read regards HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5351524&postcount=1
As you will see windows mobile 7 hasn't even been developed...
And considering the new phones will only be supported since processors and amount of RAM has changed substantially since the Excalibur, we will probably never see it running on our old beloved devices...

stylez said:
Little something to read regards HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5351524&postcount=1
As you will see windows mobile 7 hasn't even been developed...
And considering the new phones will only be supported since processors and amount of RAM has changed substantially since the Excalibur, we will probably never see it running on our old beloved devices...
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I hear you!, even though the Dash is still an awesome device, it will be more like a touch pro 2 , or a different new device that will have the 7.0, shoot M$ just released 6.5 not even 4 or 5 months ago, I'm sure it will be a while and, we'll have a beta version of the 7 way before it will be released.

stylez said:
Little something to read regards HD2
As you will see windows mobile 7 hasn't even been developed...
And considering the new phones will only be supported since processors and amount of RAM has changed substantially since the Excalibur, we will probably never see it running on our old beloved devices...
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never say never. we've seen how programmers and cooks have taken windows xp and customized it into usable os's for low end pc's. tiny xp being just one example of this.
so i have full confidence that our cooks here can create a recipe that will be usable on our excaliburs. good luck guys.

I hate to be a downer, but with under 100 MB of ram (68 MB I believe, most of which is used already by the OS and other functions, leaving the user with around 20 MB) and a very small ROM size (newer OS = more space taken) AND a processor clocking in at no more than 250 Mhz OVERCLOCKED, it doesn't seem possible for a Windows 7 ROM to run on our beloved phones.
Notice how with every new OS, the space requirements go up and up (this applies to all devices) whereas XP used somewhere around 6GB I believe and 7 now uses up to 17GB ... If Win7 Mobile proves to be a GREAT (and I mean phenomenal) OS, then there is the chance, but I wouldn't get hopes up too high [especially since our Excaliburs are becoming yesterday's model and chefs are scarce in these parts].

you do relise the newq os takes less space then old xp right? the old xp is so bloated now with updates that if they can slim it down they can slim down win 7 not to mention there is a starter version of 7 made for netbooks, however even the full version runs well on my small netbook, and it has only 1 gig total ram. infact im typing this on my win7 home premium netbook right now.

after a bit of googling i realized you're probably right. the specs required for the new windows mobile 7 OS as reported, will be too much for the excalibur to handle. i still think there are people that could size it down but it would be a job for sure. you'd still need to have those core windows system files.... but as with other OS' they always include bloatware that can be removed to improve functionality. guess we'll have to wait and see...
on the plus side, there is a work in progress attempting to port the new android OS over to the excalibur. it is based on a linux kernal. from what i've read it's bootable but they still have some work to do on it. more on that can be read about here...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435934
this will probably be my future OS for this phone when they get it to a workable beta stage. hopefully soon
update: work continued here... vvv.sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki
sorry to hijack btw

Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
I hate to be a downer, but with under 100 MB of ram (68 MB I believe, most of which is used already by the OS and other functions, leaving the user with around 20 MB) and a very small ROM size (newer OS = more space taken) AND a processor clocking in at no more than 250 Mhz OVERCLOCKED, it doesn't seem possible for a Windows 7 ROM to run on our beloved phones.
Notice how with every new OS, the space requirements go up and up (this applies to all devices) whereas XP used somewhere around 6GB I believe and 7 now uses up to 17GB ... If Win7 Mobile proves to be a GREAT (and I mean phenomenal) OS, then there is the chance, but I wouldn't get hopes up too high [especially since our Excaliburs are becoming yesterday's model and chefs are scarce in these parts].
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stylez said:
Little something to read regards HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5351524&postcount=1
As you will see windows mobile 7 hasn't even been developed...
And considering the new phones will only be supported since processors and amount of RAM has changed substantially since the Excalibur, we will probably never see it running on our old beloved devices...
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youngdaddytc said:
after a bit of googling i realized you're probably right. the specs required for the new windows mobile 7 OS as reported, will be too much for the excalibur to handle. i still think there are people that could size it down but it would be a job for sure. you'd still need to have those core windows system files.... but as with other OS' they always include bloatware that can be removed to improve functionality. guess we'll have to wait and see...
on the plus side, there is a work in progress attempting to port the new android OS over to the excalibur. it is based on a linux kernal. from what i've read it's bootable but they still have some work to do on it. more on that can be read about here...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435934
this will probably be my future OS for this phone when they get it to a workable beta stage. hopefully soon
update: work continued here... vvvv,//sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki
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How do u think about this video? this device is like HTC Elf which has only 64MB of RAM and 200 MHz of CPU.
Anyways, i hope Windows Mobile 7 can be similar to Windows 7 that can run faster event 1GB of RAM if we compare with Vista.

i think as a company, microsofts target market is the user with a newer smartphone/ppc. i wouldnt be surprised if they had some deal with the cell phone makers that requires you to have to buy a new cell phone to be able to use the newer OS. however, i still hold out hope that the hackers will break down the Mobile OS itself and get it running like a pro.
vid still looks nice though. the date on the upload was 2008 so im sure there has been much work on it since then. beta testing anyone?

youngdaddytc said:
i think as a company, microsofts target market is the user with a newer smartphone/ppc. i wouldnt be surprised if they had some deal with the cell phone makers that requires you to have to buy a new cell phone to be able to use the newer OS. however, i still hold out hope that the hackers will break down the Mobile OS itself and get it running like a pro.
vid still looks nice though. the date on the upload was 2008 so im sure there has been much work on it since then. beta testing anyone?
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I agree that M$ will require the user to buy new phone with new OS but here, xda site, is ROM testing place before the final product is out on the market.

dolphinxda said:
How do u think about this video? this device is like HTC Elf which has only 64MB of RAM and 200 MHz of CPU.
Anyways, i hope Windows Mobile 7 can be similar to Windows 7 that can run faster event 1GB of RAM if we compare with Vista.
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I think that a 201MHz CPU /64MB RAM device is more than capable of running WAD Since they can run M2D fine
Info:
Device: HTC Touch (elf)
Skin name: Windows Mobile 7 i3
(i3 = 3 interface)
Skin version: QVGA
Used: WAD2 and WA3
Created by: Bornotty[me] (from scratch of Port'n V2)
Release date: Soon!
its got the 3 different interfaces for your device at one skin, now you can switch by your mood and never get bored with it.
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sorry for the bad video quality ^_^
Based on Port'n V2 by enCOre special thanx to somjait for converting it into qvga
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Haha Stylez, I was just about to comment on that video.
Regarding the user who mentioned that Win7 is smaller than XP, I would like you to double-check that, or maybe check it for the first time, becuase I am more than 99% sure that due to the immense amount of Hardware Acceleration and other optimizational code in the Win7 core, the size of it is larger than XP. You can see this also by the fact that Win7 asks if you want to make a partition for the OS alone (which turns out to be 16-17GB) while XP (which I have installed on my own HDD) takes up no more than 18GB on my 75GB HDD and that is with all my usual apps installed (3Ds Max, Visual Studio (Full), Adobe suite ALTERNATIVES, Firewall/AV, plus all the other random freeware I tend to install for the heck of it) [I estimated around 6-7 because of the apps installed]...Also realize that the hacked XP (coined MiniXP) fits on a CD, so OBVIOUSLY there was enough to take out that it could shrink down immensely and still keep its functions... So i am pretty sure than XP doesn't take too much space...
SEMI-EDIT:: I left this window open and forgot to post, so i googled the size of an XP installation...refer to http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/size-of-xp-install/154115.html where people claim to install XP with only 1.5GB of HDD....i think that settles that...

Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
Haha Stylez, I was just about to comment on that video.
Regarding the user who mentioned that Win7 is smaller than XP, I would like you to double-check that, or maybe check it for the first time, becuase I am more than 99% sure that due to the immense amount of Hardware Acceleration and other optimizational code in the Win7 core, the size of it is larger than XP. You can see this also by the fact that Win7 asks if you want to make a partition for the OS alone (which turns out to be 16-17GB) while XP (which I have installed on my own HDD) takes up no more than 18GB on my 75GB HDD and that is with all my usual apps installed (3Ds Max, Visual Studio (Full), Adobe suite ALTERNATIVES, Firewall/AV, plus all the other random freeware I tend to install for the heck of it) [I estimated around 6-7 because of the apps installed]...Also realize that the hacked XP (coined MiniXP) fits on a CD, so OBVIOUSLY there was enough to take out that it could shrink down immensely and still keep its functions... So i am pretty sure than XP doesn't take too much space...
SEMI-EDIT:: I left this window open and forgot to post, so i googled the size of an XP installation...refer to http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/size-of-xp-install/154115.html where people claim to install XP with only 1.5GB of HDD....i think that settles that...
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lol spot on all you need to do is notice XP Pro comes on CD & Windows 7 on DVD.. There is a reason for that
Also my XP Pro SP3 Slipstream comes in @ 1.3GB after i remove the page file "solidstate disk" so 3.3GB before
Windows 7 comes in from 5.5GB+

I don't think that it will ever get to run on the dash, just because all of the animation, interfaces, plugin's, and all the ram that's gonna be needed for newer OS's.
I'm only speaking my opinion, but aren't almost all new Win Mo devices coming out with touch screens. I think if there was any older device that would get a version of WM 7 will be the Htc Tilt/Kaiser that has 112mb storage and 101mb ram, or the Htc Fuze/Raphael that has even more, around 294mb storage and 187mb ram.
I think that it would be awesome if someone would have that much skills to make it happen but, like TouchFLO on dash never happened, Android has been on the works since october 2008 and still hasn't happened.
But anyways who knows!
I just found this vid about WinMo7 .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAVg2z-SCw4&feature=related
found a very recent report on it, read up! http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12237
Also read this thread, I think Fuze has more of a chance on getting this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618567

roloracer said:
found a very recent report on it, read up! http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=12237
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All speculation we have very well informed user that is stating it's based on Ce Os 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=620477
Think the Kaiser will be left behind due to the lack of storage space and also think accelerometer gyrator going to come into play alot more with WM7 from what been reading.
But like i say all speculation, one thing i can say is the Excalibur won't as it's just too slow too small "not regards size" and it's turned out that HTC now are really a PPC adventure even though they have SP's still in the market place....
Oh i love speculation but is till have an extra kidney if need to place bets
Oh 1 more time speculation

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Oh 1 more time speculation
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Yep, speculation!
Hey Stylez! check out the youtube video I posted, and take a look at the phone the chick has running WM7 on the 1 minute and 14 second mark..

roloracer said:
Yep, speculation!
Hey Stylez! check out the youtube video I posted, and take a look at the phone the chick has running WM7 on the 1 minute and 14 second mark..
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Eazy roloracer,
Yeah it's an advert future concept cloud network. But i can see the likely hood of porting since it's still very well specked and people are stating the snapdragon doesn't add an amazing amount of difference in feel from the Qualcomm MSM750xx, but we will all have to wait and see.
Good ol speculation

keepin the fingers crossed

youngdaddytc said:
keepin the fingers crossed
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Keep more than your fingers crossed "it's not going to happen if you look @ all the videos floating around it's highly gui intensive" unless they bring out a version for SP that can work on very old equipment to which considering all SP's are now about 500MHz and have far more storage & RAM it's highly unlikely...

Windows 7 on TouchPro2

Seems like a dumb question, but does anyone know where I can get it for the TouchPro2?
Thanks for any input

Uhm, ahem....yes.
Do you mean Windows Phone 7 perhaps? If that is the case then no, you cannot and likley never will (save for some truely herculean effort by some xda dev) be able to get that running on your TP2.
If you meant regular Windows 7, you might want to pick up a laptop...

Well, I had Windows Mobile 6.5 atm, and I was just wanting to upgrade to 7. Is this possible?

Norman67x said:
Well, I had Windows Mobile 6.5 atm, and I was just wanting to upgrade to 7. Is this possible?
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"7" isn't going to be released for months yet, and even when it is, there won't be an official version for the TP2, the only way you'll be able to get it is if some xda developers manage to stuff it into this hardware, which is well below the minimum specs MS has said 7 will require to run.

Currently of course no because WP7 is not out for any phone yet.
But as I said even in the future this is unlikely as WP7 has strict hardware requirements (specifically the 1ghz snapdragon cpu and capacitive multi-touch screen) that the TP2 does not meet. It is perhaps conceivable that someone here will manage a hacked port with minimal functionality at some point, but I doubt if it would ever be complete or usable.
If you had an HD2 on the other hand, I'd say there's a good chance of being able to upgrade at some point.

Oh, maybe putting windows 7 in there was the wrong word. Is there anyway to update to the latest version of windows? Cause I installed something, and it said I needed the later version of it. Any ideas?

If you want latest 6x windows find your fav ROM n flash it. 6.5 is at 21901 and 6.5.5 is at 23563. I dont think a higher number is a later build between the two. 21xxx ROM's in my opinion r more stable. Its all in taste

What did you install? You probably just need the latest version of the .NET Compact Framework, which you can grab here.

I would like to know where to get Windows 7 OS on my Touch Pro 2. I need it because it will support my graphics card better.

rorytmeadows said:
I would like to know where to get Windows 7 OS on my Touch Pro 2. I need it because it will support my graphics card better.
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C'mon rory, let's not be rediculous now...you know the only way to get more out of your video card on the TP2 is to use liquid cooling

sirphunkee said:
C'mon rory, let's not be rediculous now...you know the only way to get more out of your video card on the TP2 is to use liquid cooling
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Also looking for Touch Pro 2 drivers for my 5.25 floppy drive.

Rory, why don't you design a HTC HD4 that has WP7 or higher, HTC TouchFlo 3.5 or higher, CDMA-GSM- WiMax, 100GB LAN, 1GB RAM, 1GB ROM, 32 GB Storage, support for up to 10TB Micro SDXC Card, full 1080P video, Holographic Display, at least a 2 GHZ Quad core CPU, USB 3.0 or higher, HDMI, Bluetooth 2.0 or higher, 2 GB video card, full sliding and tilting keyboard, and a 10,000 MAH battery. And while you are at it, have it cooled with Liquid Nitrogen and Liquid Helium. Then maby this might satisfy your needs. And yes I know this is a wise crack, but all in fun though.

gd761 said:
Rory, why don't you design a HTC HD4 that has WP7 or higher, HTC TouchFlo 3.5 or higher, CDMA-GSM- WiMax, 100GB LAN, 1GB RAM, 1GB ROM, 32 GB Storage, support for up to 10TB Micro SDXC Card, full 1080P video, Holographic Display, at least a 2 GHZ Quad core CPU, USB 3.0 or higher, HDMI, Bluetooth 2.0 or higher, 2 GB video card, full sliding and tilting keyboard, and a 10,000 MAH battery. And while you are at it, have it cooled with Liquid Nitrogen and Liquid Helium. Then maby this might satisfy your needs. And yes I know this is a wise crack, but all in fun though.
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I did last week, but I couldn't put Windows Phone 7 on it because I made it with 4 buttons instead of 3.

mrbox23 said:
If you want latest 6x windows find your fav ROM n flash it. 6.5 is at 21901 and 6.5.5 is at 23563. I dont think a higher number is a later build between the two. 21xxx ROM's in my opinion r more stable. Its all in taste
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is wm6.5.3 & wm6.5.5 officially launch for tp2?
i am from malaysia, my tp2 is now running wm6.5.
i am thinking whether to upgrade my tp2 to wm6.5.3.
is wm6.5.3 funtioning well with tp2?
can i switch back to wm6.5 if i found wm6.5.3 is not funtioning well with my phone?
thanks
garf

gd761 said:
Rory, why don't you design a HTC HD4 that has WP7 or higher, HTC TouchFlo 3.5 or higher, CDMA-GSM- WiMax, 100GB LAN, 1GB RAM, 1GB ROM, 32 GB Storage, support for up to 10TB Micro SDXC Card, full 1080P video, Holographic Display, at least a 2 GHZ Quad core CPU, USB 3.0 or higher, HDMI, Bluetooth 2.0 or higher, 2 GB video card, full sliding and tilting keyboard, and a 10,000 MAH battery. And while you are at it, have it cooled with Liquid Nitrogen and Liquid Helium. Then maby this might satisfy your needs. And yes I know this is a wise crack, but all in fun though.
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All of these are useless if the phone can't make coffee.
If you don't know what I mean, check http://www.pomegranatephone.com/

josemald said:
All of these are useless if the phone can't make coffee.
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I don't know about 'make' coffee, but my TP2 stirs coffee pretty well...

R3dF1v3 said:
I don't know about 'make' coffee, but my TP2 stirs coffee pretty well...
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That doesn't supply a solution for the need of liquid cooling. Stir iced tea with it instead.

Norman67x said:
Seems like a dumb question, but does anyone know where I can get it for the TouchPro2?
Thanks for any input
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Well Norman, If you have learned anything from this I hope that it's do your research on your own before coming out and asking something that... well, as you can see is a little goofy to ask. Even searching windows 7 on tp2 in google you would have seen its not possible right now.

[Q] Can this tablet dual boot windows?

Is that possible for the note 8. I like the size but need to be able to have windows accessible for certain things? Thanks in advance to any help with this.

shadowkid8391 said:
Is that possible for the note 8. I like the size but need to be able to have windows accessible for certain things? Thanks in advance to any help with this.
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Don't think so, but you could try remote desktop, e.g. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tux.client. It works.

Yea i can do that now just don't want it to be sluggish. Any tips on a tablet that can dual boot windows and android?

shadowkid8391 said:
Yea i can do that now just don't want it to be sluggish. Any tips on a tablet that can dual boot windows and android?
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What sort of things do you need windows for that you don't think you can do on a tablet.
In answer to your question an x86 based windows tablet (excluding the surface pro) should theoretically be able to run the x86 port of android but it's not going to be the sort of experience you are thinking of.
If you want windows buy a laptop.
If you want android buy a tablet.
we are simply not to the point where you can have both of those worlds on one device. you can do full desktop linux on most android tablets but the experience is usually quite bad.
That being said this tablet will provide an impressively robust computing experience thanks to multi-window and the s-pen but it's no replacement for a laptop for some work.
as far as remote clients go Spashtop is the best performing one I've found it can even handle games and video playback somewhat smoothly
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote phone version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad Tablet version
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2 "New" version (best experince and free but requires subscription for internet discovery)
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So the morning after I write this post Samsung is making me eat my words.
They just announced the Ativ Q which dual boots windows 8 and android.
I do not know the specs or anything yet but I'm sure those will be available soon.

Robodude288 said:
EDIT:
So the morning after I write this post Samsung is making me eat my words.
They just announced the Ativ Q which dual boots windows 8 and android.
I do not know the specs or anything yet but I'm sure those will be available soon.
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some details here:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/20/4448998/samsung-ativ-q-windows-laptop-android-tablet

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung-announces-ativ-q-windows-android-slider/
It's called the ATIV Q, and it combines Android 4.2 and Windows 8, with equal parts tablet and typing. Under the hood, the device is powered by a Haswell-series Intel Core i5 processor and manages to fit a 13.3-inch, 3,200 x 1,800 touchscreen into a 1.29kg package that measures just 13.9mm thick. Other notable specs include an S Pen with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity.
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.

kable said:
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
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I was thinking the same thing and I don't even need it.

Robodude288 said:
I was thinking the same thing and I don't even need it.
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kable said:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/20/samsung-announces-ativ-q-windows-android-slider/
It's called the ATIV Q, and it combines Android 4.2 and Windows 8, with equal parts tablet and typing. Under the hood, the device is powered by a Haswell-series Intel Core i5 processor and manages to fit a 13.3-inch, 3,200 x 1,800 touchscreen into a 1.29kg package that measures just 13.9mm thick. Other notable specs include an S Pen with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity.
Very Nice. Now if they can keep it under $700.00 I might bite.
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try $1500

fredfb said:
try $1500
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Oh probably. But we can dream can't we?

fredfb said:
try $1500
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With an i5 chip let's hope not, an i7 2.0 Ghz Ultrabook runs 1500.
Under 1K or it won't sell. Way under.

REQUEST: Porting DeX from Tab S4 to Tab S3

Title says it all. It would be a great way to inject more life and cool factor into our beloved tabs!

I agree!

I also concur

Would be amazing.

Should we start a pool? I'd be willing to contribute $30
I like the 3:2 ratio so I'm not going to get an s4

pacorola said:
Title says it all. It would be a great way to inject more life and cool factor into our beloved tabs!
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I have a Dex dock and I used to have a Galaxy S8+. Dex is not useful, and it’s less useful if you have a tablet.
Android still doesn’t have a decent tablet mode, and as you can see from the Pixel Touch, running Android apps in a desktop-like environment doesn’t work well.
Many companies have tried to make Android run as a desktop-like OS, and it just isn’t designed for it.

All I want is full desktop Chrome and Multi window

Xero3g said:
All I want is full desktop Chrome and Multi window
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Desktop Chrome runs like a dog on desktop processors with tons of RAM, why would you want it on a tablet? That's a terrible idea.

dragon_76 said:
Desktop Chrome runs like a dog on desktop processors with tons of RAM, why would you want it on a tablet? That's a terrible idea.
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Seems to run perfectly fine on Chromebooks

Xero3g said:
Seems to run perfectly fine on Chromebooks
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If the only thing you are running is the browser, and nothing else (including background tasks), then it runs OK. But Chromebooks aren't selling. So...

dragon_76 said:
If the only thing you are running is the browser, and nothing else (including background tasks), then it runs OK. But Chromebooks aren't selling. So...
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Just bought a Chromebook. Same m3 processor as my surface pro 4. Runs chrome, Android, Linux, and chrome apps simultaneously just fine. Better in some cases than my surface book 2.

Xero3g said:
Just bought a Chromebook. Same m3 processor as my surface pro 4. Runs chrome, Android, Linux, and chrome apps simultaneously just fine. Better in some cases than my surface book 2.
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I have a Dell Inspiron 14 and while I like it for just goofing around on the net, it's app support is pretty limited.
First, Linux only runs on certain Chromebooks and that will not be changing because Google uses ancient versions of the Linux kernel. So unless you have a newer Chromebook, no Linux.
Second, there's no way for Linux or Android apps to access USB or the SD card, and there's no hardware graphics acceleration for them. While that might be changing soon, it's not currently in 72. That's a big deal when most Chromebooks top out at 32GB-64GB of storage and they already have anemic processors for graphics.
Lastly, if a Linux or Android app crashes, it brings the entire system down. It's like running macOS Classic.

dragon_76 said:
I have a Dell Inspiron 14 and while I like it for just goofing around on the net, it's app support is pretty limited.
First, Linux only runs on certain Chromebooks and that will not be changing because Google uses ancient versions of the Linux kernel. So unless you have a newer Chromebook, no Linux.
Second, there's no way for Linux or Android apps to access USB or the SD card, and there's no hardware graphics acceleration for them. While that might be changing soon, it's not currently in 72. That's a big deal when most Chromebooks top out at 32GB-64GB of storage and they already have anemic processors for graphics.
Lastly, if a Linux or Android app crashes, it brings the entire system down. It's like running macOS Classic.
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Worked fine for my use case, light and capable travel laptop that I can use for work when I need to. Much as I enjoy it, my surface book 2 is too much to carry across three countries for a month. Didn't have and space issues (though I have multiple 400gb mSD cards). The Chromebook did fine and really I suppose if I needed to do more serious work I could just dual boot Linux itself. I have been wanting to try out Deepin...