[Q] GPS is almost unusable after FH13 (OTA) update - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Sorry if this is a known issue or there are topics about it already, my search hasn't found any answers that have worked
My GPS was pretty wonky when I was on Gingerbread (what came with the phone). Sometimes I'd have to restart the phone then it would work. After the ICS update (FF18 I think?) it actually worked really really well, but a ton of other **** was bugged. So the FH13 rolls out, fixes a ton of the bugs and I'm like cool!!. Welp, same day i'm driving somewhere and need my GPS, doesn't work, at all. Greatttt, so I have to use maps instead. I forget this happened when I get home and so I didn't post about it then. After that my GPS actually worked decently well till today when it totally ditched me in a time of need today. So i'm on the freeway and I leave it searching for GPS signal for about 10 minutes, nothing. Restart, nothing. Shut down all the way, take the battery out (hell if I know why), start back up, nothing! I left my phone searching for the entire car ride, it drained from 100% when I left at 1pm to almost dead after dinner. My GF's ****, also Samsung and on the same network phone picks it up fine! My GPS also has never ever worked in my room but hers does, maybe not related but it's annoying having to put in addresses while driving 100% of the time because I can't do it inside my house.
Any way to fix this? Should I just pray it works till the next OTA update happens? Should I try to like reinstall FF18 manually somehow?
TLDR: Day of updating from FF18 to FH13 my GPS didn't work (would just search and search). Worked after that most of the time (few times where it didn't but I knew where I was going so I didn't have a chance to be 100% sure it was totally dead) till today when it totally crapped out. Any ideas?

I've had gps issues as well, but it fixed for me after flashing a new modem with odin. Now oddly I'm back on my stock modem and it locks all the time.
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Also get your MSL and go into dialer. Type ##gpsclrx# enter msl code and reset GPS. This has always worked for me.
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[Q] Is MY GPS problem typical?

First off, I'm aware this phone is riddled with GPS problems, so I'm not asking the typical questions. But pretty much everything I hear from people about their problems are how they never get a lock, or it takes several minutes to get one. That's not my problem.
My problem is after I get a lock (which is usually pretty quick) and am driving following my Google Nav directions it will CONSTANTLY lose the satellites. Seems to be every couple of miles that it starts searching for satellites for about 2-5 minutes before refinding them, only to lose them a few minutes later, and usually right when I need to exit the freeway. Also it takes it a good minute or so to realize it's lost the satellites, so it will keep me frozen in the same spot on the map for this time, not giving me the convenient button to access the list view.
Has anyone else experienced THIS specific problem, and do you have any advice?
What android version are you on? I had problems like this on eclair but my GPS on froyo is as good as my wife's evo.
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Froyo, Quantum 2.5. In fact this problem has really only been since Froyo ROMs. My GPS was solid in Eclair.
So... nothing? Not even a "no, nobody's having your problem?"
I've had this problem from time to time, but it seems to be inconsistent; I use google nav a few times every day. Hasn't happened lately though and I've been on the same ROM for 5 days now.
I have this issue and i'm on the latest bonsai rom. I think it is a problem with Google Nav personally because with Sprint Navigation it happens less often for me. Or Perhaps I just have a bad GPS chip. I'm going to run stock di18 for a few days and see if it is just Froyo and my Phone that bugs out. Maybe it is just my phone and I need a new one.
Yeah remember google nav is still in beta form
You're better off using sprint navigation
I never lost a lock and I'm on froyo stock dk28
And sprint nav is free..I can see why people on tmo and verizon use google nav but not sprint folk lol
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Happens to me all the time (bonsai 1.1.4).
A quick work around is to use the GPS toggle in the notification area.
Disable it long enough for it to say it lost GPS, enable it finds it quickly (for me), but it's hella annoying.
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Update from my previous post,
Google nav worked for 20 minutes all the way home yesterday and today on my way to work it dropped out after 5 minutes then worked for another 15. I'm pretty sure this is just Google nav being buggy and Epic GPS internals are not the greatest. All in all Sprint Nav seems to be working a lot better. If you still continue to have problems try getting a replacement phone from sprint. I hear that some of the epics out there have better luck with GPS. You Could have gotten a bad one like me. WHen i've asked this question in the past on the forums a lot of people just have the big issue of not getting GPS Locks. Never see to many having the GPS drop signal issue. Everyone else's post that i've read say they have perfect GPS. Its funny because I get locks instantly but gps drops randomly like yours... so so lame.
Also try out the new Bonsai4all rom because after I've installed it i'm having a lot less GPS drops with Google Nav and i'm still testing Sprint Nav. Good Luck.
EDIT: I have been testing GPS driving to work and back home. Not one single GPS signal lost. This GPS issues might be in the past. I'm not sure if its Mammons Bonsai Rom that fixed it but If I were anyone having the same issues I would try a fresh wipe of your SD card and Odin epic back to di18, get gps signal in Google Maps, Odin to dk28- get signal in Google Maps, and CWM3.0.0.5 and then flash BOnsai. Good Luck
I don't know what is in bonsai 1.1.4 rom but my gps is perfect now and it was buggy with every other rom I've tried on dk28. I've tried a lot. Midnight,viper,epic experience.
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I had this problem all the time. It was especially bad last week when I was down in Tucson for work. It was what finally motivated me to get rid of the Epic.
I have the same problem OP. I actually finally just posted about it today, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921935 and my post is #4. I still don't have a solution, but am willing to try Bonsai 1.1.4 if it would fix things...
Such an annoying problem. I haven't been trying Sprint Nav lately as it is removed in Nebula 1.0.6, but I could try adding it back in and seeing if there is any improvement...
Try the phone reset with the msl code also. Many people are having luck with it. Good luck.
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Had the same problem for weeks. So do many others, as this is on numerous threads throughout the boards (and Android Central too). On the latest Bonsai Rom (and others based on it like Midnight), they list a gps fix. Using Midnight 2.9 fixed it for me.
Also, when I was having problems, Sprint Nav worked much better than google Nav.
The more this happens to me, the more I think it's a Google Nav problem, not a hardware/firmware problem. When it happens I see that the GPS icon in the notification bar is solid and not "searching" for a signal. That to me points to the software as the problem. Either way, it's REALLY annoying.
I was never particularly happy with the Sprint Navigation app which is why I've avoided it. Google Nav always worked so well for me before. Also I've been trying to cut down on apps on this phone, especially carrier crap.
I may try Bonsai, although I've generally liked Quantum well enough that I didn't want to switch camps. Several people stating they're using it and not having this problem is a good trail to follow, though.
Still, pretty darn frustrating.
EDIT: All right, I just switched to Bonsai. All I can say is thank you for giving me the push to switch. I don't know about nav yet (although Maps lock was quite literally instant instead of the several seconds I wasn't too bugged by before), but the overall kernel is so absurdly faster I'm shocked. Thanks.
Here is what happens to me. I can get a very accurate GPS lock easily. When I am navigating, however, the GPS lock drops after a few minutes of use, as if GPS were turned off. If I have just rebooted the phone, the GPS lock lasts about 15 minutes, and then it happens again. I can toggle the GPS on and off from the pull down menu to fix it temporarily. But, it keeps happening, and it gets more frequent. I've been this problem on every Froyo ROM I have tried . . . Bonsai, Nebula, etc. It is NOT only on Google NAV. It seems to be even worse on NAVIGON.
I never had these problems on Eclair. The fix on Eclair was not as accurate, but it never just dropped.
This only happens to me when I lose signal. Which usually means I'm out in the middle of nowhere and need my gps.
Thinking of getting a back up offline gps for this reason.
Silent25r said:
This only happens to me when I lose signal. Which usually means I'm out in the middle of nowhere and need my gps.
Thinking of getting a back up offline gps for this reason.
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This is not my issue. I am in the middle of strong 4G coverage when it happens + Navigon works offline (when you have a sat lock).
I didn't have issues before switching to DK28/Froyo/Nebuls 1.06, but now the GPS is awful ... even after doing the MSL reset. Frustrating is an understatement.

GPS seems to be off by 10-20m, CM7

I was out using my phone GPS on 3 local golf courses and noticed my GPS was always 10-20 m off from known distance markers on the course. I had been using my GPS and a few different golf apps early in the season, March and it was always right on 0-2m difference. I did update to the newer radio since march from 7.28, would this cause an issue? I am going to try GPS status app and reset Agps data as suggested by a few others, but thought I would ask if anyone else is seeing this consistent offset?
I am now using
CM7.1RC
Incredikernel 6/272011
radio 2.15.10.05.06
Very well could be the new radio. I'd flash back to 7.28, I've found it to be the most solid.
i've had all sorts of GPS issues with cm7 and the newer radios...cardiotrainer and google nav (and maps) always seem to jump all over the place. this was with the newest gingerbread radio, i've also used either 11.19 or 09.01, i can't remember which (i might have even tried both).
i just flashed back to 07.28 (from the newest gingerbread radio) in an attempt to resolve it. i'll let you know tomorrow what i find when i drive into work...
edit: after just going outside, i don't hold out much hope for this having fixed it. it's almost like every time i turn the screen off or put an app in the background, i lose gps lock. if i'm in maps and it sees my location, and i go back to the home screen then back to maps again, it'll see me a few yards away then quickly jump back to my current location. it's really annoying...
I am going to give that radio(7.28) a shot as well. Any update on your GPS, did you get a chance to try it on your commute?
I've got a really short drive (only about 5 miles or so), but the results so far look promising. As soon as I pulled out of the garage and opened maps, it got a gps lock within a few seconds. Tracked me all the way to work and seemed to be spot on the whole time. Even checking into foursquare once I got here it was on the mark more so than it had been lately.
Like i said, promising ....but I don't wanna say it's fixed for sure yet. I've got a longer drive coming up this weekend that ill test it on.
Also, I'm wondering how it would fare if I were to turn the screen off (like I would if I were running with cardiotrainer) ...
EDIT: Well I took a drive with gingerbread radio 2.15.10.05.06, had me off the road on google maps. Flashed 7.28 and had me in the correct lane. I will check with my golf apps tonight and see how it is looking.
Dan
Good to hear, I am going to flash old radio in an hour and try on the golf course, and I will track in google maps as well and see. I'll post tonight again with my results.
Thanks for the update
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I've got a really short drive (only about 5 miles or so), but the results so far look promising. As soon as I pulled out of the garage and opened maps, it got a gps lock within a few seconds. Tracked me all the way to work and seemed to be spot on the whole time. Even checking into foursquare once I got here it was on the mark more so than it had been lately.
Like i said, promising ....but I don't wanna say it's fixed for sure yet. I've got a longer drive coming up this weekend that ill test it on.
Also, I'm wondering how it would fare if I were to turn the screen off (like I would if I were running with cardiotrainer) ...
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GPS working with the 7.28 radio. My GPS went from 10-20 yards off any marker on the golf course to 0-3 yards off.
Same here, I think.
Standing inside subway, went to check in on foursquare...says I'm 43 feet away. Other radios would consistently have me anywhere from a few hundred feet to a half mile or more away.
Seems 07.28 is the best radio for GPS.
On my long drive this weekend (2.5 hrs roughly), GPS was pretty much dead on the entire time.
7.28 seems to fix GPS issues, at least for me.
i tested on to road trips over the July 4th weekend and GPS was working perfectly. I guess we will have to wait for a new radio from the upcoming Incredible update everyone keeps mentioning. Guessing the leaked Radio still has some bugs to be ironed out.
Perhaps I spoke too soon, my run today with endomondo was off by a bit but only in one direction (ran around a track, had me on the track for the length of the field but the turns on the ends of the track were off by about 10 feet).
I'll check it again tomorrow if I get a chance to run...
Edit : much better today. Yesterday must have been anomaly, although I did clear the gps earlier today. Perhaps that helped.
dc52317 said:
i tested on to road trips over the July 4th weekend and GPS was working perfectly. I guess we will have to wait for a new radio from the upcoming Incredible update everyone keeps mentioning. Guessing the leaked Radio still has some bugs to be ironed out.
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Have you been ok since? Endomondo is jumping all over the place again today on my run...
Seems clearing gps data fixed it, at least momentarily. Went into gps status app, cleared gps data then downloaded a gps data, then did a quick reboot and walked a mile...dot was spot on every time I checked it.

2 Phones, 1 Problem. WiFi. [+video]

Well, sh1t. This has been driving me nuts for past few days and I'm frankly out of ideas on what to do. Got two phones, both set up pretty much the same. Fresh flashed both to the latest greatest Calk's 2.8.1 / EL29 and one of the phones is having WiFi problems. It's constantly scanning and not finding any networks. A quick reboot fixes the problem but few hours later it comes back. At one point it turned WiFi on for 20 seconds and then shut it back off.
Both phones were flashed with full wipes, installed exact same apps on both (except 1 or 2 apps), used same settings on both, and yet one works fine and other simply hates WiFi. Before flashing WiFi worked perfect on both.
Also, here's a video demonstrating the problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC5m66-NctY
Any ideas on what to do? Replacing the phone will be the last item on the list
1st thing I'd do is odin back to stock and see if that fixes it, if it does you know it was simply a bad installation. Although it honestly looks and sounds like broken hardware.
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Reasonable GPS lock workaround w/o root

I've been having the same trouble as many have with the Epic 4G Touch's GPS. It takes forever, if ever, to get a GPS lock. I can have a GPS lock, go into McDonald's and come back out and it will be cold starting again. Ridiculous performance.
Rebooting the phone is a pain but seemed to be the only thing that worked every time. After reading a lot of different forums about this problem, I noticed a conservation that speculated that the problem wasn't specifically the GPS itself, but rather was location services. Apparently there are some more recent location services being flashed to phones and the GPS works great. It would make some sense that this is the problem because after a reboot I would think that the phone would reset location services when it turns back on. Further comments in those threads suggests that turning the phone to airplane mode and back also works around this problem.
I've been playing around with this for awhile today and it does appear that going to airplane mode and back helps the situation. I used Tasker to create a task that does this: turns on airplane mode, waits 20 seconds, turns off airplane mode, then launches GPS Test automatically. I created a widget icon for this task. I never attempt to get a GPS fix indoors. What I do is that when I walk outside on the way to the car I hit the widget. I let the phone do it's thing and by the time I get in the car and ready to go, I've had a GPS lock every time today. When I get in the car, I close GPS Test and start whatever app I want to navigate with.
So far, this method has yet to let me down. We will see how the weekend goes.
That's very interesting, I'm gonna try that and see if it helps. I also noticed that getting a lock by starting Navigation right away is almost impossible. It always helps me to Getty a lock with another app first. Telenave seems to work best for me.
This (among the countless others) workaround is fine and I thank you for it.
However I'd really like to know just what the hell is going on with the gps on these phones.
Some folks are fine with the gps working fine in any circumstances. While others have to wave dead chickens and performance some sort of incantation to get gps to be even reasonable. Still others have some issues but can work them out via flashing of modems and what not. Some had to replace their phone with another e4gt and it was fine there after. WTF?
The gps on my old GS2 i9100 was awesome. I never had to give it a second thought or worry about it losing gps lock or taking eons to get even a meager lock. This is entirely not the case with my current E4GT. Damn thing. If the update doesn't fix anything then I'm gonna replace it.
Is there just a batch of bad hardware out there? Is the gps sleeping when it shouldn't? Why does one fix seem to work for one phone but not another? Talk about manufacturer inconsistentancy, geez.
Does the sprint version of the galaxy nexus have these sorts of issues?
Heavy sigh.
Try GPS Status, it's available on the market. I just got a lock on 8/8 satellites within 5 seconds inside my apartment.
Google maps seems to take a little bit longer obtaining a GPS lock but after running GPS Status it seems much faster.
I believe that it does not require root, and the best part is that you do not have to flash back to GB, to get a lock so that you can flash ICS again.
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I would flash back....worked ever sense i did
It's my phone...any mis takes...sry
tubasteve said:
I would flash back....worked ever sense i did
It's my phone...any mis takes...sry
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Why flash back when this is easier?
There is no reason to have to flash back to GB, check out this article I found with a quick google search.
http://m.lifehacker.com/5873007/how-can-i-fix-my-androids-crappy-gps
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I'm blue in the face over this issue. Invariably, you get "I get a lock on 12 satellites from my concrete bunker 12 feet underground" responses (not helpful, BTW), yet I can't get a lock in the wide-open spaces. UNLESS, I reboot, start up GPS Test or GPS Tracker, or bounce back and forth from airplane mode, murder a chicken, or whatever.
It's totally hit or miss with this device. Yes, I can get a GOOD lock indoors, but only after I reboot, run GPS Test, and then go back inside. Not exactly convenient when you're hurtling down the freeway at 70mph.
It's frustrating to hear of the great experiences of other users when my experience has been so inconsistent. I rely on my GPS for directions, and for tracking my morning runs. It's a real pisser when it takes 4 minutes for the GPS to finally lock, which ruins any useful statistics for Runkeeper.
I know this is just a rant, but at least I feel better.
Try what I mentioned with GPS Status from the market. It might not be a permanent fix but it will help with getting a lock on your location.
1. Download GPS Status from the market.
2. Turn on GPS.
3. Open GPS Status.
4. Bring up the menu and select tools.
5. Manage A-GPS State.
6. Turn off GPS from the toggle in the status bar.
7. Select the option to Reset.
8. Select the option to Download GPS assistance.
9. Close the application.
10. Turn GPS back on and watch it lock on.
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I had this exact same problem after 2 visits to Sprint they swapped my phone. The new one has had perfect GPS no matter what i flash. I just think there is batches of phones with faulty hardware
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can you tell us how you did this in tasker?
thanks
jalanjkcarp said:
I've been having the same trouble as many have with the Epic 4G Touch's GPS. It takes forever, if ever, to get a GPS lock. I can have a GPS lock, go into McDonald's and come back out and it will be cold starting again. Ridiculous performance.
Rebooting the phone is a pain but seemed to be the only thing that worked every time. After reading a lot of different forums about this problem, I noticed a conservation that speculated that the problem wasn't specifically the GPS itself, but rather was location services. Apparently there are some more recent location services being flashed to phones and the GPS works great. It would make some sense that this is the problem because after a reboot I would think that the phone would reset location services when it turns back on. Further comments in those threads suggests that turning the phone to airplane mode and back also works around this problem.
I've been playing around with this for awhile today and it does appear that going to airplane mode and back helps the situation. I used Tasker to create a task that does this: turns on airplane mode, waits 20 seconds, turns off airplane mode, then launches GPS Test automatically. I created a widget icon for this task. I never attempt to get a GPS fix indoors. What I do is that when I walk outside on the way to the car I hit the widget. I let the phone do it's thing and by the time I get in the car and ready to go, I've had a GPS lock every time today. When I get in the car, I close GPS Test and start whatever app I want to navigate with.
So far, this method has yet to let me down. We will see how the weekend goes.
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rgregg504 said:
I had this exact same problem after 2 visits to Sprint they swapped my phone. The new one has had perfect GPS no matter what i flash. I just think there is batches of phones with faulty hardware
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I agree, after all my research and attempts at fixing my phone; the only option left to me is replacement. I'm tired of reading forums about it (yet here I am) and it's whole thing is just silly.
I don't suppose you have any documentation on the serial number for the phone that had a ****ty GPS? It would be awesome if there could be some sort of documentation of which patch of phones is bad.

Nexus 7 LTE Deb Multitouch and GPS issue

Hi anyone experiencing multitouch and/or GPS issues?
My friend is in Canada and just bought one for me. She's coming back to Singapore in 2 weeks and is helping me test it first in Canada. The unit prompted to update when started up which she did. I'm waiting for her to reply me what build it is at now.
I told her to download the Yet Another Multitouch Test and she tried dragging her fingers around. With a single finger a red blob follows her finger around but sometimes a blue blob appears right next to it briefly. With 2 fingers, when she was dragging 2 fingers around a green blob appeared a few cm away once. She did say she noticed sometimes using it normally that it was a bit unresponsive/slow.
For the GPS, I wasn't sure how to test it. I got her to use either maps or GPS Status and Toolbox. The first time she said it looked like the gps fix was ok for 45minutes (in maps). She DID NOT REBOOT and it managed to relock. The 2nd time was on GPS Status 18 minutes. The 3rd time the fix lasted for 19 minutes. But after that one, the 4th time it couldn't find a lock even after waiting more than an hour. She was testing it indoors so I asked her to leave the gps status toolbox on while driving to have a better test. Anyone experienced this? I thought that the GPS issue was such that once you lost the status, you couldn't get it back without reboot. But my friend said the relock was successful at least twice (indoors).
I also told her to try clearing the AGPS data and refresh data using the GPS Status and Toolbox, she will try that later.
quarian said:
Hi anyone experiencing multitouch and/or GPS issues?
My friend is in Canada and just bought one for me. She's coming back to Singapore in 2 weeks and is helping me test it first in Canada. The unit prompted to update when started up which she did. I'm waiting for her to reply me what build it is at now.
I told her to download the Yet Another Multitouch Test and she tried dragging her fingers around. With a single finger a red blob follows her finger around but sometimes a blue blob appears right next to it briefly. With 2 fingers, when she was dragging 2 fingers around a green blob appeared a few cm away once. She did say she noticed sometimes using it normally that it was a bit unresponsive/slow.
For the GPS, I wasn't sure how to test it. I got her to use either maps or GPS Status and Toolbox. The first time she said it looked like the gps fix was ok for 45minutes (in maps). She DID NOT REBOOT and it managed to relock. The 2nd time was on GPS Status 18 minutes. The 3rd time the fix lasted for 19 minutes. But after that one, the 4th time it couldn't find a lock even after waiting more than an hour. She was testing it indoors so I asked her to leave the gps status toolbox on while driving to have a better test. Anyone experienced this? I thought that the GPS issue was such that once you lost the status, you couldn't get it back without reboot. But my friend said the relock was successful at least twice (indoors).
I also told her to try clearing the AGPS data and refresh data using the GPS Status and Toolbox, she will try that later.
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I had the GPS issue that was fixed with a software update. Prior to the update, when I tried to use Waze or Google navigation, it would lose the GPS lock within 15 minutes, often sooner. After the update, I have never lost GPS lock during navigation. My longest drives are about 2 hours. Tell your friend to test it during a long drive, but if you got the software update, you should be all set.
I can't comment regarding the multi touch issue, I haven't noticed any such problems on either of my N7 tablets (WiFi, and LTE), and haven't tested for it.
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multitouch problem seems very common, since I have read a lot of complaint related to the touch screen, I checked my screen as soon as I got it , and tested with Antutu which is a universal test tool, the result was frustrating as well-- UPPER PART of the screen functions insensitively compared to the lower part. It is a hardware malfunction clearly. What the hell did Asus react to it? We'll wait and see.
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Well update..my friend brought the nexus 7 out for a drive. Just a normal journey, not a long one. Am I right in saying the ones with problems cannot relock without rebooting and if mine can relock without reboot it means it's got normal working GPS?
Also, the build (after the initial update) is JLS36C. Which according to this Deb thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448352 should be the latest I think.

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