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Defy not booting

Hey all,
I was trying to flash a new rom on my friend's Defy. Everything went fine till the point I had to flash the rom. I forgot to wipe cache and data before flashing and now the phone isn't boot. I'm stuck with a black screen. Also I tried to charger it with an ac charger and the white LED doesn't turn on, but it does when I connect it to my PC and I've tried to boot into recovery and bootloader, but I cant.
Please help needed asap!

Hey,
more information please, what have you done??
Flashed with RSDLite? From which ROM to which ROM?
Further it could be the wrong Group for that Post....
How did you try to boot into bootloader?
Maybe the wiki can help you more faster...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Motorola_Defy
If you still stuck - pls give me a hint.
Good Luck!

Thank for the reply
I was using RSDLite to flash that new rom. I'm not sure what the default rom was, but I was trying to flash JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.1 and to get into the bootloader I was pushing and holding the power button and vol up button together.
P.S. I'm trying to do the McGyver battery fix at the moment.

I dont think you need that mc gyver trick...
Release the battery, press and hold volume up (+) and the power butten than insert the battery, after some seconds -dont wait too long- release all buttons, now you should see the bootloader and it should be possible to flash a new image again, be sure which image you take!!
Recovery mode has two different ways to get into, it depends on the image you have currentyl installed....
Usually push the volume down (-) button and power on your device, just relase the volume (-) button if you see the exclamation mark.
Let me know if something worked for you.
I had nearly the same issue, released the battery for a moment an tried the first hint i wrote above.

This hasn't worked for me either
Sent from my Motorola Defy using the XDA App

defyguyftw said:
This hasn't worked for me either
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Hey.
You mean the McGyver Trick? Or the Battery In/Out way to Bootloadder??
cheers.

Some issue doesn't need you to actually see the bootloader screen in order to flash a new sbf. Just take out the battery, hold volume up button and insert back the battery, then release button. Now insert the USB cable to the PC. You would see a connection status under the RSDlite even if the phone screen stay black. Now you can continue flashing.
Or the back screen tells you are on an empty battery, then Mcgyver is the only way.

Had this problem well too many times.
Check the file size of the ROM.
I spent ages trying to get a 40MB rom to flash properly.
try find one with a good file size (100MB-300MB).
I had the same problem and tried the McGyver trick, but the battery the cause of my problem. If u plug it in with RDs lite open and then try pwr and volume + then u might be able to get something. Even if teh screens off and RDS lite detects it then its worth a shot trying to flash it again.

? mark in battery and watining on moto logo

hi
when connecting my charger to phone dont charging and ? mark on battery ,battery in bootloader is ok!
i use some 2.2 ram , my defy always waiting on motorola logo
please help
who i see my batery has dead wihteout charger or use other battery?
i havent any battery for test

please help

If you have not done so already pull the battery and replace. It happened to me once, and a battery pull allowed it to charge again. It that doesn't work I would suggest trying a different battery.

not away whithout use other battery ?
i dont have anthoer
i only one have defy in my city!and buy online battery in my country not sure and very expenseive
i think battery is fine because in bootloader is ok and can flash but problem from software of phone and dont solution with flash and wape because i do flash /wape /cashe veryhigh with multi 2.2 rams
sorry my english is weak

Hi, friend
How about your Defy, it's working or not?
Could you try the universal battery charger?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyJu6aXXUu8
It should help...

Pull the batt plugin the charger...
Turn the charger on... hold yhe volume down button while doing this... ull see recovery screen wipe data...
Pull the charger put the batt in n try...
Sent from My Mind using the Brainwaves...

I think thats not a prob did u flash full sbf or fixed one??
Sent from My Mind using the Brainwaves...

thanks friends
my defy now stuck in m logo and not charging battery , when connect charger question mark on battery and not charging with universal charger but in bootloader battery is ok
i flashed multiple(more than 8) with different 2.2 rams and wape data/cache and not have any Advantage
i think this problem not resolvable with full flash and wape it has another way
now way???

I have exactly same problem. It's USA defy. I flashed full sbf with 2.2.1 nordic rom. Then I tried CygeonMod rom. But first time boot never worked. Then I decided to flash the nordic rom. So I did wiping from customer recovery. And I tried to flash the nordic and i got this. But I am not sure 100% since I was reading multiple things. But I got feeling that custom recovery partition is still there and that partition is not allowing the phone to boot. When you do the Power Button and Vol Down you can go to original recovery mode. And the you do full cleaning and wiping. But same thing. no result....

chinbold said:
I have exactly same problem. It's USA defy. I flashed full sbf with 2.2.1 nordic rom. Then I tried CygeonMod rom. But first time boot never worked. Then I decided to flash the nordic rom. So I did wiping from customer recovery. And I tried to flash the nordic and i got this. But I am not sure 100% since I was reading multiple things. But I got feeling that custom recovery partition is still there and that partition is not allowing the phone to boot. When you do the Power Button and Vol Down you can go to original recovery mode. And the you do full cleaning and wiping. But same thing. no result....
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You should always wipe from Stock Recovery before flashing an SBF.
* make sure your phone is charged
* boot into Stock Recovery (power + vol down)
* do "wipe data/factory reset" and "wipe cache" (Make sure that you wipe BOTH /data and /cache via stock recovery)
* Reboot from Stock Recovery with power + vol up pressed to enter Bootloader Mode
turn phone on holding the power button and the volume-up button for 5 secconds. Let go and it should be a black scree with some white text
* Then connect your phone via usb
* open RSD Lite and flash

Hey thanks for the tip. Will do your way now on.
Also I found the solution to the problem. Defy giving a "?" battery message because it thinks there is no battery since there is no juice inside the battery. One bad thing with defy is that Motorola, I guess, never think of case where you need to charge the battery in "Stock Recovery" or "Boot loader" or even loading the firmware. I think, this is Motorola's designing flaw. Hope the newer motorola phones are not like this. I will use the universal charger that I have at my office and the once the battery has enough then I will apply the stock rom. But if you don't have any universal charger the following is the right place:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026&highlight=battery+low+cannot+program

Bricked one x :(

I guys...
welll.. i just f*ck my one x !
i install a official cwm and relock the bootloader to recover with the RUU and... it says the battery is too low, and i cant flash over fastboot because is says that my battery life is too low... how can i charge my device with the official cwm or already exist a fastboot without a minimum battery?
sorry about my english, im from Chile (spanish native).
Thanks a lot for any help!

wolfraim said:
I guys...
welll.. i just f*ck my one x !
i install a official cwm and relock the bootloader to recover with the RUU and... it says the battery is too low, and i cant flash over fastboot because is says that my battery life is too low... how can i charge my device with the official cwm or already exist a fastboot without a minimum battery?
sorry about my english, im from Chile (spanish native).
Thanks a lot for any help!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpBAupp8kKc
Open the cover! Remove the battery and charge!
take a video also for show for others how to open.
And also check if the memory is micro sd!
check this links also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599748
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1596155

What state is your rom in? Can you boot at all?
M.
Edit - some people have had luck with this charging method. Plug in to charger, phone will boot and for about 6-7 seconds you'll get a red charging light. When that turns off pull the plug power down phone (long hold power if you need to). Very slow process but it will get you there eventually.

From what you've said, you should still be able to boot the phone normally to charge it.
Re-locking the bootloader and installing a different recovery shouldn't have done naything to your boot.img or ROM.

mattman83 said:
What state is your rom in? Can you boot at all?
M.
Edit - some people have had luck with this charging method. Plug in to charger, phone will boot and for about 6-7 seconds you'll get a red charging light. When that turns off pull the plug power down phone (long hold power if you need to). Very slow process but it will get you there eventually.
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I install villain rom, when i enter to android it asked me for the update... now villain rom wont start, i shows LOADING... forever.
Sentinel196 said:
From what you've said, you should still be able to boot the phone normally to charge it.
Re-locking the bootloader and installing a different recovery shouldn't have done naything to your boot.img or ROM.
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VIllain ROm wont start.
ganjbass said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpBAupp8kKc
Open the cover! Remove the battery and charge!
take a video also for show for others how to open.
And also check if the memory is micro sd!
check this links also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599748
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1596155
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thanks i will see this.

I discover something great for any guy who brick his HTC ONE X.
Only signed recovery can CHARGE the phone when it is power off (suspended), if you have any other CWM installed, doens't matter, try to start the os en left it alone and connect it to the power, no lights appears, but the phone never go off, that means you are charging it!!! (i see this because i have the splash screen of my villain rom installed). 1 hour and the screen still sppearing, this means that the battery is charging it
Now i start to charge my phone and im going to let you know any news about my bricked one X.

You can also try to boot in rom in safe mode and charge phone. when you boot you have to hold both volume+ volume- will be boot faster...I find accidentaly last night.

I solve it!
Now i know. HTC One X is unbrickable. Or you can really brick if you stop a bootloader flashing...
Sent from my GT-I9003L using XDA

bricked? DHD vibrates 3 times than flashes led

well **** me....
I just wanted to reboot my DHD and now i have thi outcome
Vibrates 3 times flashes orange lede no reaction anyhow
when ich charg it the lede lights up normaly but in intervals its flashing green orange green orrange than permanently again
Was on Blackice rom lightly OC´ed to 1.3 ghz
Well how ****ed am ? there is waranty left but when it´s the platine can thay notice that it was rooted anyhow?
thnx mates
Darkmind

Have you tried to boot into recover by power + volume down?

U hv gone in a different mode i dnt remember whts it called but it happens whn u press volume up and power button. Try taking out the battery n c if it boots..
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

Muikkuman said:
Have you tried to boot into recover by power + volume down?
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adilrenzu said:
U hv gone in a different mode i dnt remember whts it called but it happens whn u press volume up and power button. Try taking out the battery n c if it boots..
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
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Xeleth said:
Pull out your battery for 2 minutes, put it back and try to boot. If that doesn't work then:
1) Power off your device (pulling out battery is the bulletproof way)
2) Press the volume-down button and hold it, then press the power button until you see a
white menu screen (bootloader)
3) Try to access recovery (navigate with volume-keys and powerbutton). If you cannot
access recovery then:
4) Download this file http://www.multiupload.com/BTJ8KY0KH9 and put it on your SD-card
root with an external memory card reader.
5) Boot to bootloader again and accept the installation
6) See if it works.
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like to do all of this but it dont boot into bootloader doesnt mater if i push volume up or down and power on either way it vibrates 3 times than flashes led.
still... is HTC able to detect a rooted device even if it dont boot? and if so can they deny the waranty

This has happened to me 2-3 times. I definitely think it was because the battery didn't have enough charge. Try charging it for a little time. Have patience.
If its not getting charged I think there might be some problem with your charger, charging cable, charging port or battery.

if4ct0r said:
This has happened to me 2-3 times. I definitely think it was because the battery didn't have enough charge. Try charging it for a little time. Have patience.
If its not getting charged I think there might be some problem with your charger, charging cable, charging port or battery.
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wll the battery was charged 100% just before that happened - and i tried another battery after this happend - because i was about to install a new rom. so it checks aut that when i try to hboot that its vibrates 7 times than flashes green led (when vol down + power) when i start normaly or when i try to vol up + power its vibrates 3 times
and flashes a orange led ( normaly it would be red but i was on blackice mod)
i have varanty left on that thing and it was rooted s-off when i send it in are they able to see this?
and could they deny varannty?
it was only slightly oc´ed to 1.3 instead of 1 ghz thera was chainfire installed too
Windows 7 trys to recognice the device when i plug it in per usb but cant find the right driver.
thanks for the ideas

Darkmind82 said:
wll the battery was charged 100% just before that happened - and i tried another battery after this happend - because i was about to install a new rom. so it checks aut that when i try to hboot that its vibrates 7 times than flashes green led (when vol down + power) when i start normaly or when i try to vol up + power its vibrates 3 times
and flashes a orange led ( normaly it would be red but i was on blackice mod)
i have varanty left on that thing and it was rooted s-off when i send it in are they able to see this?
and could they deny varannty?
it was only slightly oc´ed to 1.3 instead of 1 ghz thera was chainfire installed too
Windows 7 trys to recognice the device when i plug it in per usb but cant find the right driver.
thanks for the ideas
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That's strange. When that happened to me it was fine when I charged up the battery.
Unfortunately, considering the fact that you can't even get into bootloader and that windows cant recognize your device I'd say you are pretty much bricked.
Do you get the splashscreen atleast? the one with the white HTC logo?
Are your volume keys working fine? I mean were they working fine before this happened?
Well I'm pretty sure that if they can't get to the bootloader, they have no way of knowing it was S-OFF. So they can't deny warranty in that case.
On the other hand, if the issue that caused this problem was indeed an issue that could've come only after someone S-OFF's then they might just deny it.
But I'm pretty sure you can fool them by maintaining that you don't know anything about how it happened.

Xeleth said:
Then download Android-SDK, open cmd, plug in your phone and type in "adb reboot bootloader".
See if that works.
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Nope. Wont work. The computer has to recognize it atleast. In anycase, adb works only after the mobile boots past the splashscreen. And I think he might have already be knowing about adb since he's flashing ROM's.

Xeleth said:
Then download Android-SDK, open cmd, plug in your phone and type in "adb reboot bootloader".
See if that works.
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see below :laugh:
if4ct0r said:
Nope. Wont work. The computer has to recognize it atleast. In anycase, adb works only after the mobile boots past the splashscreen. And I think he might have already be knowing about adb since he's flashing ROM's.
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thats the point ther is no splash screen at all. i think this is a great myth the comunity cant solve by now. i read this a bunch of times many post to the 3 vibrations on boot or 7 vibrations ther is suggested that the mainboard passed out but what coused this if so?
otherwise i saw post on peaople were able to fix this bug and therfore could be no mainboeard failure be possible right?
i still try to figure that out gonna make a pol thread in DHD general because i have some suspissions to this and i want to see if this checks out.
thanks anyway

my phone break

hi, i was flashing my phone that suddenly the connection lost (my laptop shut down). and now i think it has break, and i cannt switch it on or flash it again. would you plz help me what to do?
any help appreciated

First you full charged to your phone then press switch off button and volume up and down at one time you will be go to recovery mode then follows

venkat8245 said:
First you full charged to your phone then press switch off button and volume up and down at one time you will be go to recovery mode then follows
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should it be 100 % full to go to the recovery mode? coz the battery had a problem that it cannt get full charge, only about 60% .
and now i tried several times, but it didnt go to recovery mode .
thanks in advance