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My battery has been depleting at a very rapid rate and am wondering if it's normal or something I can do on my end to fix. For example, I made a phone call and left a voicemail and the battery went down about 3%. I was thinking of just buying a replacement battery, but if there is something I can do to try and fix the current one, I'm open to that.
Thanks!
pchieng said:
My battery has been depleting at a very rapid rate and am wondering if it's normal or something I can do on my end to fix. For example, I made a phone call and left a voicemail and the battery went down about 3%. I was thinking of just buying a replacement battery, but if there is something I can do to try and fix the current one, I'm open to that.
Thanks!
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Depending on your reception (and length of call/voicemail), that could be quite normal. There are other factors as well; is this a new phone? Have you recently flashed a new ROM, restored a backup or done a factory reset?
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OriginalGabriel said:
Depending on your reception (and length of call/voicemail), that could be quite normal. There are other factors as well; is this a new phone? Have you recently flashed a new ROM, restored a backup or done a factory reset?
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I just checked my phone since I posted the initial thread and it went down another 8%?! It definitely didn't used to be like this. The phone isn't new, it's about 14 months old. And yes I did recently root my phone and flash CM7 on it, but I thought it would have improved the battery life, not make it worse!
Let me know if any other info is needed, thanks!
Using the phone in the same location (like work or home) as you previously used the phone? Reception is often tied to location. I get rapid battery drain when in poor reception areas.
How long ago did you flash the ROM? You should cycle the battery from full charged (100%) to about 20% (but not empty) and repeat this a couple times in order to properly calibrate the battery meter. This needs to be done every time you flash a new ROM, in order for battery readings to be accurate. You can also clear the battery stats before you do this, to make sure any previous data is not screwing up the calibration.
pchieng said:
I just checked my phone since I posted the initial thread and it went down another 8%?! It definitely didn't used to be like this. The phone isn't new, it's about 14 months old. And yes I did recently root my phone and flash CM7 on it, but I thought it would have improved the battery life, not make it worse!
Let me know if any other info is needed, thanks!
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As redpoint stated, you need to cycle a few times after flashing a new ROM.
Let's say your battery was at 60% when you flashed CM, the ROM is basically going to think that 60% is as full as it gets; after a few cycles, the ROM will "learn" your battery.
Additionally, there are so many tweaks one can do with CM that you can actually kill you battery faster if you max everything out (overclock all the way, turn on all the eyecandy, etc.)
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Check your parameters, set OC profiles in order to optimize energy consumption, also as said upper calibrate battery meter and then see how your battery holds, i don't think it's a physical defection because hardware is well made but you never know so do this and then we'll see.
download battery monitor widget from market and track the history and usage statistics, that will give you a starting point to trace the issue. as a reference, my DZ running miui and cm7 kernel is using roughly 26-29 mah with screen off
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I'd suggest flashing a new kernel for better battery life if all else fails.
Currently I'm running EliteMod's kernel, U flash it just like you would a rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246682
I've been getting some bad battery life but not nearly as bad as you have.
I suggest fiddling with SetCPU or turning off all your usual wireless services like Wi-Fi, 3G and GPS
I bet the problem is that you got sync on! That NAILS AND KILLS BATTERY FAST!
Here you new gameplan.
Step 1: Download battery dr.
Step 2: Shut off all sync (manually sync when you need email updates etc.)
Step 3: buy 2 backup batteries from Ebay for cheap
Step 4: Shut off volume vibrate on keypress, shut off all animations, shut off volume noise on keypress, turn screen of from inactivity to 15 seconds.
That should help. Let me know your results.
I charge my DHD every night over night, to make sure it has a full charge at the start of everyday. I've had my DHD for 16 months and I have had no problems with it ever. I've run many ROMS and kernels and its been rooted since the first week I got it. However it now overheats when I put it on charge almost every night.
I plug it in and the temperature will steadily rise from about 29 - 32C (which is what it runs at throughout the day) to over 40C, I've never seen what it actually reaches because since its over night I haven't monitored it that much. The highest I've seen it is 47C. After the first few occurrences of this I set a profile in setcpu to set the phone to 800Mhz when temperatures go over 38C. However this was to no avail. I then set it to underclock all the way down to 230Mhz when it goes over just 35C. But yet it still overheats when on charge so I don't think it has anything to do with my CPU? I changed kernels too but it still didn't help. The only reason this really annoys me is when it does over heat (lets say 1 in every 3 nights) I wake up and its just boot looping over and over until I do a battery pull. Which means my alarm hasn't been going off so I've had to dig out the old G1 the past two weeks just for it to act as an emergency alarm in case the DHD overheats.
I'm not sure what my problem is here, any insight?
Might want to try replacing the battery. Is it a third party bettery, those cheap "Gold 2000ma" batteries are notorious for overheating and being a bit rubbish. The other thing that might have happened is there is a short in the charging circuit which is causing the overheating.
I would say it's a 80% chance of it being a hardware problem. Try a different ROM if you are unsure.
If you have an o/c tool like no frills cpu control or anything like that, then that could be your issue too. Running high on cpu can cause overheat even when the phone is in sleep mode.
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Thanks for the replies.
I have my cpu overclocked during the day but I have a profile in setcpu which underclocks it to 230Mhz when the phone goes over 35C. I've seen this in affect and the cpu does downclock as expected yet my phone is still overheating.
I am using the stock HTC battery still and have had no issues with it before. I will try another ROM/kernel combo and see if it that resolves my issue just in case. Otherwise I might have to S-ON my phone again, put it back to stock and send it to HTC...
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Thanks for the replies.
I have my cpu overclocked during the day but I have a profile in setcpu which underclocks it to 230Mhz when the phone goes over 35C. I've seen this in affect and the cpu does downclock as expected yet my phone is still overheating.
I am using the stock HTC battery still and have had no issues with it before. I will try another ROM/kernel combo and see if it that resolves my issue just in case. Otherwise I might have to S-ON my phone again, put it back to stock and send it to HTC...
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I had this same problem it was the setcpu app or no frills create another profile and put the setting on charging and turn setting down or add profile when screens off 122-245 set priorities to high hope this helps
If it's not a software issue, your battery might be faulty and you should switch it as soon as you can.
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If it's not a software issue, your battery might be faulty and you should switch it as soon as you can.
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My Desire HD is fitted withe the original battery and its also getting hot during charging.
I've been monitoring my battery with 'Battery Monitor Widget' from the market, the recordings show that throughout the day my battery fluctuates between 20 - 30C depending on my usage. As soon as I plug it in however the battery immediately starts creeping up from low 30's to around 47C, this is where the monitoring stopped and has a huge gap until morning when I boot my phone again.
I applied a new profile in setcpu as suggested for charging instead of temperature and tested again last night, I set the charging profile to 230/384 min/max. The monitoring from last night shows the phone reached 40C by the time it'd charged to 100% and steadily started to cool back towards 30C, my phone was on when I woke up and functional so hopefully this is a temporary fix until I eventually have to get a new battery because I'm pretty certain its a hardware fault.
How long is the standard warranty for a Desire HD? If its 1 year then I'm out of luck and will have to buy a replacement...
didge3 said:
I've been monitoring my battery with 'Battery Monitor Widget' from the market, the recordings show that throughout the day my battery fluctuates between 20 - 30C depending on my usage. As soon as I plug it in however the battery immediately starts creeping up from low 30's to around 47C, this is where the monitoring stopped and has a huge gap until morning when I boot my phone again.
I applied a new profile in setcpu as suggested for charging instead of temperature and tested again last night, I set the charging profile to 230/384 min/max. The monitoring from last night shows the phone reached 40C by the time it'd charged to 100% and steadily started to cool back towards 30C, my phone was on when I woke up and functional so hopefully this is a temporary fix until I eventually have to get a new battery because I'm pretty certain its a hardware fault.
How long is the standard warranty for a Desire HD? If its 1 year then I'm out of luck and will have to buy a replacement...
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Did you ever try uninstalling the setcpu app or any cpu controller and try that.. another thing what Rom are you using . Did you try wiping the battery stats in recovery
hopesfall190 said:
Did you ever try uninstalling the setcpu app or any cpu controller and try that.. another thing what Rom are you using . Did you try wiping the battery stats in recovery
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Worth a try, Im using Virtuous Quattro RC3 at the moment. Although the ROM development seems to have died so I might try the other stock ICS ROM I see floating around for the DHD.
I've been told to dump setcpu about 948 times before due to performance issues it supposedly brings or other faults and I just cant tear myself away from it, I've had the widget on my home screen in the same place set up the same way for about 3 years across 2 different phones and about 20 different ROM's, I just cant seem to force myself to get rid of it.
Wiping my battery stats seems like a good idea and I'll make sure to do that tomorrow morning when my phone will be fully charged. I'll also change my ROM later this week and if I'm still getting issues I will TRY to ditch setcpu for a while. If I still have issues then I will have narrowed it down to some sort of hardware fault.
Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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toyanucci said:
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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I had the exact same problem as you are describing but additionally, my overall battery life wasn't lasting as long as it should either. I ended up sending it to Samsung's repair center to get fixed. I'm not sure what they did but some other people on the forums suggested it was a motherboard issue.
So the capacity of the battery seemed just fine but the readings were crazy (dropping from 50 to 5 in minutes and then on reboot back on 50).
After 2-3 full cycles of charging nothing changed. Flashed fw nothing changed. Went to Samsung service and they just informed me that they changed the battery and now performing final checks.
Hope this will solve the issue. I'm too lucky that I am in the "6 months warranty" window for battery...
How does one go about sending it into Samsung? After getting it back, did you see a significant change?
I've been debating doing this but wasn't sure how to go about it.
I haven't got it back yet. They just called me and they said that apart from the battery, they need to change another part (the telephone operator didn't know which part) and I'm going to receive it tomorrow.
So I'll let you know once I receive it.
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Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
Rupar4o said:
Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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After trying everything (flashing different roms via odin, factory reset, full battery cycles etc) the problem never went away.
Went to Samsung service. They checked the battery and had to replace it.... within the warranty.
Same issue here. Just got an email saying its fixed. They changed the charging port and lcd. Weird that they replaced the lcd.
Well I got it back. Seems they broke the s pen function when taking it out or putting in. The tablet thinks it's always out of its slot. I guess another 2 weeks without this thing. What a pain in the ass. Times like this makes me wish I bought an ipad where I could just walk into the store and get it fixed that day.
I had the same problem. I sent it back on Monday and got it back 7 days later. They did not say what they changed, but now everything is working fine. I even got a new usb cable and a magnetic Germany flag
I sent mine in for an overheating problem and they changed the charging port and gave me a new cable. I initially also had the random drops in battery but seems to be better now.. They said bad voltage going to charging the battery or something. Still have overheating so gotta send it in again?
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So guys did you get it fixed? I have exactly the same problem. I have sent it to fix at the sam service - they changed the charging port, but it didn't help anything. 1,5 years of normal usage and now I can pretty much throw it into the toilet. God damn POS!
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 battery drops
Hello all,
Just wanted to inform you all that I have been experiencing these battery drops (yesterday from 93% to a mere 5% in a matter of minutes) for a very long time now. I am running under the latest 4.4.2 stock firmware.
Also, battery life is way below par (understatement !), where the Note sometimes drops to around or below 5% (the magic number below which the screen starts to dim pretty dramatically and there's no way to influence that)
Funny thing is that after the battery drops to below 5% or even 1 or 2%, it's still possible to use the tablet for quite a number of hours afterwards, which suggests it may be something with the logic estimating/determining the remaining battery capacity, rather than the battery itself....)
Now I've tried draining the battery and fully recharging it multiple times/ resetting the stats using free apps / revert to factory settings etc.
All to no avail unfortunately, this problem simply keeps coming back.
(By the way: Apart from the battery and battery life, the Note is an excellent device, and delivers as promised.
Please also note that charging it through the microUSB cable is also simple, stable and relatively fast, unless you compare it of course to my all new Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which has a superior fast charge mode and offers the highest possible battery-life at this moment and easily beats any other smartphone (including the usual suspects from that Cupertino-based firm of which I can't force my mind to remember the name of.....) in this price-quality and performance category )
As for warranty:
Battery is no longer under warranty, the device itself is.
As such, I will now get the battery replaced by a new Samsung OEM-battery first, and see if that resolves the issue.
If it doesn't help, I will send it in for repair for Samsung.
I will keep you all informed on the resolution and cause.
Likewise, if there's anyone that has gotten to the root cause of this issue, please let me / let us know
Some users reported some 'magic part' OTHER than the battery itself (motherboard / charging circuit or even the lcd ??) having been replaced by Samsung after sending it in for repair.
That information could be very valuable to us all in trying to get Samsung to resolve the issue, so I would really appreciate it if someone would share this info in this thread.
Hey I know that there hasn't been much activity on this particular thread, but i too have been experiencing this problem for over a year now. I sent it into samsung twice and it still never fixed the issue and by the time i was going to send it in the 3rd time it was out of warranty. I personally removed the back cover and unplugged the battery for a while and that did not help. I have tried flashing different ROMS and kernels to no avail until last week. I flashed Temasek's Unofficial Build found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/lt03wifi-temaseks-unofficial-build-t2980604 and after 3 full power cycles i have not had a single random drop yet i even managed to go 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time which is a record for me with this device. Not sure if it will help everyone but this seems to have solved my problem and i am thrilled! Also (as embarrassing as it is) i played 2.5 hours of Clash of Clans straight without a single random drop either.
I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
KwestJones said:
I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
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Hello KwestJones,
I've successfully replaced the battery in the Note 10.1 2014, and it has improved things. With a little care, this is easy to do. Just removing the battery connector is a bit typical, you need to lift it carefully and slightly to remove it.
The result is not as drastic of an improvement as I would like to have seen, but at least the sudden drops in battery capacity percentage seem to be under control now.
I am doing a video test now, and will see how it behaves and let you know.
BR,
Maarten
Very curious to hear if replacing the battery corrected this issue. I've been experiencing this same battery drop issue for 2 or 3 months and the unit is well outside of warranty. Hoping there's a simpler fix, but willing to replace the battery if that will work since the tablet itself is still a great unit.
Complete factory reset should clear the Android Coulometer's data base or learning algorithm. Just clearing options of Battery Monitor Widget for rooted devices won't help. There are some other apps, which seem to help if the charge level never reaches 100%, a related, but not identical problem.
I have an old tablet suffering from this, with a tweaked custom rom, and i didn't want to clear and setup that completely. The algorithm or database is "learning" again, and the capacity jumps have become fewer and smaller over the last months. It should depend on how long the device was used and never reset before the incident. In my case over a year.
Itvs much like my cars fuel calculator, which won't work correctly during traffic light stops. Right after starting the engine, fuel consumption can raise several liters/h, when the car don't drive, as it uses the last sampled value(every 30 meters). And you need several kilometers to drive to have these levels drop to realistic ones again. While after a long driving distance, a traffic light stop will hardly have an influence.
Hi all.
I am a new user of this community.
I am looking for a fix to my troubles.
Two weeks ago I updated my s4 mini to KitKat via OTA.
My Galaxy was TOTALLY officially, no custom rom, no recovery, no root... so i updated in the "classic" way.
From that day my smartphone drains battery really, really, fast and becomes really hot.
I am talking about 50° celsius when i only browse internet or use whatsapp to send message, and in the same time the battery drains fastly.
I rooted the phone, look to wakelock, look to process that could drain it, i made two factory reset, flash via Odin to the Italy Stock 4.4.2 (before it has got the English firmware version), buy a new battery, use different charger, calibrate it by app, calibrate it with the non-root method... but the problem persist.
I have got GPS off, Wifi OFF, NFC Off, S-Beam Off, Bluethoot Off... i only use internet via GSM or UMTS, no LTE.
To browse I use Opera Mini, but it's the same thing with Chrome.
I don't know what to do, i don't think it's an app problem, and it's impossibile that is by hardware, because with Jeally Bean the smartphone goes great.
I am actually trying Coolify after try Battery Doctor and a lot of other apps, like Gsam Battery, Greenify, Battery Calibrate ecc...
I've attacched some screenshot here. How can you see by the battery graph the battery drains like there's not a tomorrow in same time :crying:
ps: sorry for my english, how can you see by the screenshot i am italian.
Mee too I have this problem
gian90t said:
Hi all.
I am a new user of this community.
I am looking for a fix to my troubles.
Two weeks ago I updated my s4 mini to KitKat via OTA.
My Galaxy was TOTALLY officially, no custom rom, no recovery, no root... so i updated in the "classic" way.
From that day my smartphone drains battery really, really, fast and becomes really hot.
I am talking about 50° celsius when i only browse internet or use whatsapp to send message, and in the same time the battery drains fastly.
I rooted the phone, look to wakelock, look to process that could drain it, i made two factory reset, flash via Odin to the Italy Stock 4.4.2 (before it has got the English firmware version), buy a new battery, use different charger, calibrate it by app, calibrate it with the non-root method... but the problem persist.
I have got GPS off, Wifi OFF, NFC Off, S-Beam Off, Bluethoot Off... i only use internet via GSM or UMTS, no LTE.
To browse I use Opera Mini, but it's the same thing with Chrome.
I don't know what to do, i don't think it's an app problem, and it's impossibile that is by hardware, because with Jeally Bean the smartphone goes great.
I am actually trying Coolify after try Battery Doctor and a lot of other apps, like Gsam Battery, Greenify, Battery Calibrate ecc...
I've attacched some screenshot here. How can you see by the battery graph the battery drains like there's not a tomorrow in same time :crying:
ps: sorry for my english, how can you see by the screenshot i am italian.
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You have to root and install recocery on your device. There's a thread arnd here created by Arco for you to find the recovery files. He also provided a kernel for KitKat regarding the wakelocks if im not mistaken. So flash that kernel and like i said, recovery and root is needed.
Sent from mah AssForMini
You may have a faulty firmware installed. Try updating to the latest one with Odin from sammobile.com.
i flash a stock rom android 4.4.2 3 time and the same probleme...so wat kenel i should use me and my friend
znayver said:
i flash a stock rom android 4.4.2 3 time and the same probleme...so wat kenel i should use me and my friend
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Like I said, go to Arco's recovery thread. He provided a 4.4 kernel to fix Stock ROM problem
EDIT: Rite i guess this is sad for all of ya but Arco made the kernel for 4.2.2 stock only. No 4.4. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43622999
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TiTAN-O-One said:
Like I said, go to Arco's recovery thread. He provided a 4.4 kernel to fix Stock ROM problem
EDIT: Rite i guess this is sad for all of ya but Arco made the kernel for 4.2.2 stock only. No 4.4. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43622999
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tnx for your information...which that be soon suported 4.4
Android says me that i've got the 56% of battery at this moment, with about 5 hours to use (only 34 minutes of screen on and GSM only mode)
In the same time 3C Toolbox says that i've spent the 34%. That's mean i've got the 64% of battery.
It could be an Android indicator error?
I tried to calibrate battery using Battery Calibrate, now i will do it with 3C toolbox, maybe it's better.
So, using Coolify i see a little improvement in temperature (never up 45°) and the drains seems go slowly then before.
gian90t said:
Android says me that i've got the 56% of battery at this moment, with about 5 hours to use (only 34 minutes of screen on and GSM only mode)
In the same time 3C Toolbox says that i've spent the 34%. That's mean i've got the 64% of battery.
It could be an Android indicator error?
I tried to calibrate battery using Battery Calibrate, now i will do it with 3C toolbox, maybe it's better.
So, using Coolify i see a little improvement in temperature (never up 45°) and the drains seems go slowly then before.
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If its the indicator, then what causes the CPU heating? Battery indicators in all devices are not accurate even after making it "accurate". Like eg, my Galaxy Wonder had 18% battery. After reboot while charging i got 90% and lasted a few hours. But honestly, no heating issues back then.
I still am confident that its a kernel problem. Being a flash-a-holic, i didn't try the 4.4 update then cos of KNOX
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If its the indicator, then what causes the CPU heating? Battery indicators in all devices are not accurate even after making it "accurate". Like eg, my Galaxy Wonder had 18% battery. After reboot while charging i got 90% and lasted a few hours. But honestly, no heating issues back then.
I still am confident that its a kernel problem. Being a flash-a-holic, i didn't try the 4.4 update then cos of KNOX
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Yes, probably the only things to do is flash a new kernel and a new rom.
But i bought only 6 months ago this f***ed Samsung, so I don't wanna loose the warranty (i love my old Galaxy Next, i could flash it how many times i wanted, because there isn't no stupid knox)
I installed the App Opp Xposed Framework, i found that Google Service uses location even if i say him to don't use it, and even if i turn off gps. So I stop him, I even stop the "keep awake" options in his menù.
But in 5-10 minutes i didn't watch any differences in battery life.
So, i risked to put off "keep awake" in "Android System" (because i watched that "android system" keep awake the phone often), and nothing it's happening now. I am charging my phone, then I will try if there's battery improvement (but i don't think)
Same issue here. Got the phone two weeks ago. Sometimes during charging it would heat up to 47C. Also is this normal battery life?
Note: Power saving is on.
Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
RoyaLKurTx3 said:
Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
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Its a Samsung problem. People actually told me to steer clear off 4.4 update to get away from problems like this.
You guys should try the S5 ROM here.
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RoyaLKurTx3 said:
Mine got to 49C yesterday at 2am before going to sleep. Literally, when I touch the screen, I feel it burning. I'm on stock ROM. The battery, on the other hand wasn't one of the worst times I had it. It went down drastically from 10%, which isn't bad compared to going down drastically from like 30% like I once had.
It may be a battery problem, and it may be a firmware problem. But I suspect that it's both. I got 2 batteries, and when I have problems with one, I turn to the other, and it's a continuous loop. I guess 4.4.4 will fix some of the problems, hopefully.
The screenshots explain everything.
Peak temperature at 49C. The constant green line (straight line) shows when the phone was off. You can see the temperature going down then.
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What app is that? (1st screenshot)
ppero196 said:
What app is that? (1st screenshot)
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Battery; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.macropinch.pearl
Searching online I found that battery drain is a problem of KitKat 4.4.2, and that S4, S4 mini and Note 3 are the most affected by this problem. The factory reset, that is often suggested is useless. I made it 4 times in the last 2 weeks.
I even change the stock rom, from the UK 4.4.2 to Italy 4.4.2, with no improvement.
The only way is to wait an official update (if Sasmung will update again this phone), or try a Lollipop or 4.4.4 custom rom.
I could say that rooting the phone by Towel Root (knox 0x0 flashing before the old kernel) and using:
- Coolify (with this app running in background in 3 days the phone stay under the 45° celsius)
- App Opp Xposed (deny the access to position to any app and put "Kepp Away" off for a lot of app)
- GserviceFix
- DisableService (to stop some process, like the wereable process on Google Play Service)
And freezing all the useless software pre-installed, i get some little, but important, improvement
At this time I have 50% of battery with around 3 hours from the unplugged and with around an hour to use with display on in gsm mode (no wifi). Before KitKat updated this wasn't good, but if i hadn't root now i would have 35 or less percent
gian90t said:
Searching online I found that battery drain is a problem of KitKat 4.4.2, and that S4, S4 mini and Note 3 are the most affected by this problem. The factory reset, that is often suggested is useless. I made it 4 times in the last 2 weeks.
I even change the stock rom, from the UK 4.4.2 to Italy 4.4.2, with no improvement.
The only way is to wait an official update (if Sasmung will update again this phone), or try a Lollipop or 4.4.4 custom rom.
I could say that rooting the phone by Towel Root (knox 0x0 flashing before the old kernel) and using:
- Coolify (with this app running in background in 3 days the phone stay under the 45° celsius)
- App Opp Xposed (deny the access to position to any app and put "Kepp Away" off for a lot of app)
- GserviceFix
- DisableService (to stop some process, like the wereable process on Google Play Service)
And freezing all the useless software pre-installed, i get some little, but important, improvement
At this time I have 50% of battery with around 3 hours from the unplugged and with around an hour to use with display on in gsm mode (no wifi). Before KitKat updated this wasn't good, but if i hadn't root now i would have 35 or less percent
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I would be better off with a custom ROM than Offcial Samsung Stock ROM. 4hrs of SOT (without WiFi) just with light browsing, gaming and some video watching
I do understand you guys don't wanna void warranty but I guess its better than buying batteries every month
Anyways, i guess some improvement for this is simply to wait for Samsung's update OR try out greenify. I believe Greenify can hibernate apps that causes the most overheating
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For what it's worth I had similar over heating on my i9300 and my current phone i9195. I believe it mostly stems from the screen. The screen in a phone and laptop will be the biggest drain on power, by far, second to none.
Unfortunately, once a battery has experienced regular rapid battery loss from the screen being on too bright and too often, the battery becomes pretty poor at holding charge. And one of those screenshots shows the screen zapping the most... Remember, even if its on charge it's still hitting your battery for power. Now I never let the screen above 45-50% brightness.
If you're running stock and have power saver activated then turn the screen down, and remove as many unnecessary apps as possible. If you're rooted then there's plenty more you can do and my favourites are Droidwall to prevent apps from using your mobile connection and a custom kernel with app to under volt the cpu and gpu, but there's a lot more you might be able to do...
adrokon said:
For what it's worth I had similar over heating on my i9300 and my current phone i9195. I believe it mostly stems from the screen. The screen in a phone and laptop will be the biggest drain on power, by far, second to none.
Unfortunately, once a battery has experienced regular rapid battery loss from the screen being on too bright and too often, the battery becomes pretty poor at holding charge. And one of those screenshots shows the screen zapping the most... Remember, even if its on charge it's still hitting your battery for power. Now I never let the screen above 45-50% brightness.
If you're running stock and have power saver activated then turn the screen down, and remove as many unnecessary apps as possible. If you're rooted then there's plenty more you can do and my favourites are Droidwall to prevent apps from using your mobile connection and a custom kernel with app to under volt the cpu and gpu, but there's a lot more you might be able to do...
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I put the S5 Proyect rom with Brisk Kernel and the problem persist.
It's not possibile was an hardware problem, because in Jeally Bean was everything fine.
But now it's really strange, sometimes the battery drain a lot, but yesterday night with the 10% i use it a lot to whatsapp before to see it shut down automatically. I don't kwow what to do
A battery isn't considered hardware by most as its a consumable; its not expected to last the lifetime of the phone.
Just because it was fine on JB you can't discount the battery cells failing. I assume you went from JB to KK, and not downgrade? If so i believe the screen zapping the battery too much causing the battery to begin failing holds true...ie, 6 months ago it was fine on JB but now its bad. Between then and now the battery has been hammered.
Hello,
I am experiencing a rather odd issue since about a week. This is my story:
I am running CyanogenMod on my OPPO Find 7a. I stayed on a build from 2014 (a nightly) that was working okay for me (CM 11, Android KitKat). I decided to update my version last week to the latest CM 12.1 (on Lollipop), and even though I ran in some issues (gapps, update the recovery, etc.), after doing a clean install, it seemed to be fine.
However, just after installing this new build, my problems started: my phone was randomly shutting down (like if no battery was left), but then when plugging it back in I could see it wasn't empty (sometimes it was 20%, sometimes 50%, sometimes as high as 80%). I thought it could be caused by corrupted battery stats, so I tried a bunch of apps and different methods to reset this, without success.
I also tried a factory reset, reinstalling of the ROM, changing the recovery to the cyanogenmod's one, changing back to TWRP (latest 2.8.6.0), wiping the caches, etc. None of this helped.
Today, I decided to install a backup I had from before the installation (a KitKat backup then), to see if the problem came with the new ROM. The phone seemed to work better at first, but after a while I experienced again this sudden shutdown (black screen, phone dead, Android didn't shut it down). So I started to monitor the battery level and voltage, and I noticed something surprising:
When plugged in, the battery voltage is steady at 4300mV. When disconnecting the charger, the voltage is dropping between 3300 and 4100 depending on the charge level (from my understanding, it is a normal behavior). However, as soon as I start using an app that is heavier (for example, Google Maps and jumping from one city to another frequently), I notice that the voltage steadily goes down, and the temperature of the battery goes up.
My conclusion after these tests is that the phone shuts down when the voltage gets lower than 3000mV (something around that value), after few minutes of using a "heavier" app. I checked regularly the temperature, and it didn't go above 30C (it was 26C when idle, I doublt 30C is a problem for a Li-ion battery).
So I have now these questions:
Is this normal that the battery voltage drops when using heavier apps?
Shouldn't the OS handle the load to avoid it to get under the threshold shutting down the phone?
Is it my battery at fault or probably some wrong installation of something? I find it odd that the battery problem appeared EXACTLY at the same time than the Lollipop update I did (and I saw many people having battery issues with this update).
Unfortunately I don't have a second battery to test if it works better, and I'd like to avoid buying one for nothing if possible...
Thanks
EDIT: another weird thing happening, the phone seems to need to restart several time to get in the recovery...
I'm having this problem too. I just got the phone on eBay, and updated to Oppo's Lollipop AOSP beta. Hopefully it is something with a quick software fix. I haven't tried switching ROMs again.
I changed my battery and it fixed the problem. So it was a hardware issue apparently, just odd that it appeared exactly at the same time of the update.
Sangoria said:
I changed my battery and it fixed the problem. So it was a hardware issue apparently, just odd that it appeared exactly at the same time of the update.
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Yeah. Your description was a clear indication of a failing battery or (possibly) at least a dirty battery contact.
Batteries will drop in voltage under load, but a healthy Li-Po should only drop a little bit (Probably maybe 100 mV, worst case 200 mV or so under load is my guess, I'd be pretty surprised to see a 200 mV drop from a healthy LiPo under reasonable load). If it's dropping a few hundred millivolts under load, the battery is toast or there's a loose connection.