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Got my Evo today - what fun! Its my very first smartphone and so far I think its great. With 4 bars on 3G I get 2.0-2.4 mbps down. With 1 bar on 4G I get about the same speed. I'll need to hunt around and see how 4G signal strength varies with position. My neighbor 1 block away gets at least 4 mbps. I guess this variability is the nature of Sprint's WiMax network?
I've seen lots of posts with people reporting statistics on time spent on/off, awake/asleep, amount of data downloaded, what apps are using what resources, etc. What tool does one use to collect this information?
You can get some information through the about phone; up time, awake time, battery use etc etc.
As far as the 4G, I think it's more of it being such a new network. Was just out back taking a breather and I can get 1 bar of 4G. 2-4 Mb pretty consistently ... sometimes it drops, pulled in 5 on a couple speedtests. The 3G though, it's weird because I'm lucky if I can even get 2 Mb. Dunno though, gotta assume the stability of the 4G will only get better. Figure I'm right on the brink even though the coverage map appears to have it bleeding out past me. In time I suppose.
Baltimore is the oldest (and I assume most built-out) 4G market area that Sprint has in the US. I was able to connect to 4G on the first day I had the Evo. Then did the OTA update. I've been unable to connect to 4G ever since. I switch the 4G radio on and wait, the icon at the top of the screen always says 3G. Am I doing something wrong? Is there somewhere else where I need to enable 4G? Anyone else having trouble accessing 4G since the OTA update?
I have also been having some problems with my 4g. I had no problems with 4g until the update.
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Curious, 4G still works with my phone after the OTA.
I see B-More has been up since 2008 or something? First city! Whoa. But strange none the less. Your buddy, whom you referenced in the original post, still able to connect?
I've had my EVO in Baltimore since Launch Day - have not done the OTA yet (rooted) and my 4G was working fine until this morning. Wonder if there is some sort of outage today.
All I get is Scanning -> Connecting to Sprint -> Obtaining IP -> Scanning.
This has happened in Baltimore and Annapolis.
Also, I have hit 5mbps download near the Beltway and I-95.
Dude!? Where in Bmore? I'm over in Ellicott City and I get maybe 600kbps on 3g or 1200 in Samsclub Catonsville and at BWI...
4000-5000 on 4g
Oddly though I've been getting "network connection lost" and google maps just stops and refuses to download any tiles. Pandora freezes too...
You started having these problems today?
I've searched the web and this seems to be the only place that 4G problems have been reported in Baltimore.
Also, are you pre or post OTA?
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Dude!? Where in Bmore? I'm over in Ellicott City and I get maybe 600kbps on 3g or 1200 in Samsclub Catonsville and at BWI...
4000-5000 on 4g
Oddly though I've been getting "network connection lost" and google maps just stops and refuses to download any tiles. Pandora freezes too...
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I'm downtown. This morning (7/2) I checked (outdoors) near Camden Yards and at the Inner Harbor. No 4G. Maybe its just coincidence that there's a network problem just after the OTA? I'll keep checking....
So, I called Sprint. As expected, they claimed maintenance in my "neighborhood". As I mentioned above, I've been in Baltimore and Annapolis today with no 4g. I have a hard time believing that they took out the whole area for maintenance. However, he did claim that it should be back up by 7pm.
I'm in Ellicott City and get about 4.5 on 4G and 600-1.0 on 3G.
I work right on the edge of the 4G coverage (Clarks Ace Hardware) so I'm usually at 1-2 bars. If I go 1 block east I get full reception, but if I go 100ft. west it completely drops 4G (route 144 & 40).
Checked for 4G connectivity this morning (inside my brick rowhouse, near the baseball stadium in Baltimore). I've got a weak 4G signal again - and measured 4 mbps bandwidth down. Good enough for me. I'll take some more measurements around town and see if there's any place with a stronger signal.
I spent the whole day yesterday at the harbor, 4G never connected once. Fail :/
Went to Sprint at Inner Harbor. They were getting 2 bars of 4G in the store, and I was getting none. The tech there noticed that I had turned off the "Location" switch (which allows GPS to update applications of phone's location). I did that because I didn't want GPS radio on all the time (save battery), and because I thought it would give me a bit more privacy. Tech said for 4G to work at its best - need to turn Location -ON. Reluctantly I turned it on, and now I'm consistently getting 1 or 2 bars of 4G around the Baltimore downtown area, with 3.8 - 4.5 mbps bandwidth down.
SO - in order to use that battery hogging 4G radio, one needs to turn on yet another battery sucking radio? Wow - are others in 4G markets finding that 4G works better with GPS on and Location on? Or was that tech just grasping for straws...?
i've always had the gps on. no luck
interesting! Don't know if any of you have tried sensorly map... kinda sweet... it signal strength maps 4G and 3g and 1xrtt via crowdsourcing... and lets you compare coverage btw sprint/att/vzw/tmob...
But I'm worried how accurate it is due to several issues:
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1) I contributed data and never saw the map update
2) data will be skewed as GPS needs to be ON for map to work - so it should report better 4g coverage than actually exists AND
3) Most people who contributed seemed to be wardriving (or just leaving it on while driving)... and from what I've read wimax isn't that good at mobile or handoffs...
If it is accurate... this is not going to be a fun 2 years... SPRINT coverage looks like ****! even compared to tmob...
Any input from anyone smarter?
btw - I'm moving to a boat down in inner harbor... anyone have any results from the water?
I'm wondering how accurate it is too. Wasn't there some kind of radio problem with 4g not connecting? Wouldn't that skew the results?
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so im in downtown baltimore (otterbein area, right off the inner harbor), and both my wife and i just got evo's on friday. neither of us can get a 4g signal anywhere, unless we're standing literally across the street from the sprint store in the inner harbor. is this usual? is there some kind of outage right now? sprint was entirely useless when i called tech support, and i got transferred around about 11 times before being told they'll look into it and call me back tomorrow.
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so im in downtown baltimore (otterbein area, right off the inner harbor), and both my wife and i just got evo's on friday. neither of us can get a 4g signal anywhere, unless we're standing literally across the street from the sprint store in the inner harbor. is this usual? is there some kind of outage right now? sprint was entirely useless when i called tech support, and i got transferred around about 11 times before being told they'll look into it and call me back tomorrow.
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Make an appointment to speak with a tech at the Inner Harbor store - sounds like there's something wrong with your phone or settings. Coverage in downtown Baltimore can vary a lot with location. I'm in Ridgely's Delight (less than a mile from you) - and I've been getting between 3.5 and 5.0 mbps down.
I have a permanent home in Austin, Texas and have had 4G there for about 6 or so months. Today I'm at school about 30 miles south of Austin in a city that has never had LTE. About 20 minutes ago I noticed the little 4G symbol at 1 bar and about 5 minutes ago it jumped to full bars and I had a signal of -70dbm. I assume they are just testing but does anyone know how long the process is to implement LTE to an area after testing.
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No idea but check the speeds. Let us know how fast it is without anybody else on it
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No idea but check the speeds. Let us know how fast it is without anybody else on it
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Well I wasn't able to catch it when I had a signal of -70dbm. It's back to 1 bar -109dbm but I'm getting 6-8Mbps down and 1-2Mbps up with ping times around 90-110. Not that impressive but not bad for low signal.
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Aaaand as quick as it came, I'm back to 3G =\…
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Usually no more than a couple weeks (If that).
I live in Salem OR and my 4G symbol came on the other day. Its definitely not official launch market yet but my bars have been fluctuating from 2-4 bars sometimes the symbol goes away an comes back I'm sure in a few weeks it will be official and much more stable.
Same here. Its starting to creep through my town, very spotty. Though I keep watching it get better and better, so I know this year will be awesome when fully implemented across all of Long Island.
I live in Lancaster Pennsylvania, and I just got a 4G signal yesterday as well. Not sure if they're testing or what, but I'm getting between -80 and -70 dBm signal, which is 3 or 4 (full) bars. I'm getting roughly 20 mbps down and 10 mbps up right now in my quick testing. All I can say, is I hope it doesn't go away.
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I live in Lancaster Pennsylvania, and I just got a 4G signal yesterday as well. Not sure if they're testing or what, but I'm getting between -80 and -70 dBm signal, which is 3 or 4 (full) bars. I'm getting roughly 20 mbps down and 10 mbps up right now in my quick testing. All I can say, is I hope it doesn't go away.
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I'm in Lancaster too! Thanks for the heads up! I just switched on my 4G radio (was keeping it off to save battery), and i've got a signal of 85dBm (3-4 bars) inside my house. Speedtest shows 6down/5up
Running 4.0.4 with included radios.
I'm going to assume you are all using the CDMA version. Since nobody even mentions anymore.
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Ulatec said:
I'm going to assume you are all using the CDMA version. Since nobody even mentions anymore.
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Well that and we're talking about LTE too, also a hint at CDMA.
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I live in Salem OR and my 4G symbol came on the other day. Its definitely not official launch market yet but my bars have been fluctuating from 2-4 bars sometimes the symbol goes away an comes back I'm sure in a few weeks it will be official and much more stable.
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Last week I was traveling from Portland to Lebanon. As soon as I got away from Wilsonville, no 4g, which was typical since 4g came to Portland.
I then planned to move to Lebanon (though not the case, going to Salem now...). I called Verizon to ask if they could 'hint' to me the possibility of 4g in Lebanon and he said they can't give out (or know, yeah right) that information. A week later, I now get 4g all the way from Portland to Lebanon, although Lebanon is really weak, but when i does connect to 4g, I speedtest at 4-8Mbps.
I didn't notice any breaks in the signal all the way down I-5, so seems his story was accurate in thinking the I-5 would likely see it soon in Oregon since it appeared they were working the main HWY from North Washington down. On my trip, I hit the speed test a few times noticing anywhere from 34Mbps down to 4Mbps on Average on I-5. In Tigard I was getting the Max LTE speed of 43Mbps consistently. Up speed in all those test and in Tigard ranged from 4-18Mbps. Nice!
Anyhow, so I bugged Verizon 1 week ago and now it's down to Lebanon (maybe further, haven't traveled beyond on I-5 yet), so you should "Thank Me" for bugging them to get it down this far!!!!
I'M JUST KIDDING guys. But, it's great to see Verizon making excellent progress. Also, what I was told was that all the major cities were now basically covered. The next phase is all the major HWY's, such as Interstates, etc. Looks factual to me based on what is happening. My Unlimited 4g hotspot just gained more value! WooHoo!
Happy 4g'ing.
-Cybie
I've had 4G in my area and a few others cities around me that are miles apart since at least December and still no official launch announcement for these areas. Maybe they have just been grouped into Baltimore even though I'm about 30 miles from there?
So I narrowed it down to being on the 3rd floor of the Business building at my school. When ever I'm in my CIS class I have 1 bar 4G but when I go to the bottom floor or outside even, I'm back to 3G. Kinda weird and I hope that's not how it is when they officially implement it in this area.
According to Network Signal Widget, i'm connected to HSDPA 7.2Mbps and through Settings > About Phone > HSDPA: 9
Speedtest results are 4000-5000kbps down and 2000kbps up consistently.
the fastest ive seen in the nyc area was just under 11mbps.
Someone had an issue before that it was saying he was on HSDPA and it was because his baseband and RIL did not match. Might be worth looking into.
the baseband and RIL are already updated to the UGLC1. I never did a speed test before the update though, but the widget showed 7.2mbps still.
i'm perfectly happy with the speeds i'm getting now, a lot better than Sprint's haha. just curious if there's still potential untapped on my end.
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the baseband and RIL are already updated to the UGLC1. I never did a speed test before the update though, but the widget showed 7.2mbps still.
i'm perfectly happy with the speeds i'm getting now, a lot better than Sprint's haha. just curious if there's still potential untapped on my end.
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Just could be your particular area or congestion.
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Your speed is comparable to results I got with ATT 3G. Some T-Mobile mobile phones support HSPA+ 42Mbps theoretically, the Nexus is HSPA+ 21Mbps, so it depends on the phone spec too. The fastest in speedtest I got with a T-Mobile SII was 24Mbps.
are you the user giving every thread 1-star? lots of 1-star ratings on the front page.
I've been on Tblowbile, Spurnt, and Veryzoned in the last year or so....I can compare more accurately than most.
Since I'm near the beach in southern California I have the luxury of pegging the signal strengths on every phone I've used.
Tmo here is hspa42....fastest I ever got was about 12Mbps down and the system seems locked at 1.5Mbps up (it never deviates higher or lower).
Spurned here is WiMax (and switching to LTE soon) ....Usually get about 12Mbps down and 3-4Mbps up.
Verizon here is LTE.....I've clocked 35Mbps + down and 14-15Mbps up.
In case you think I was lagging on phones I currently have a Gnex, before that a Motorola Photon, before that a Evo3D, before that a Evo4G, before that a GalaxyS Vibrant....and so on and so on.
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I've been on Tblowbile, Spurnt, and Veryzoned in the last year or so....I can compare more accurately than most.
Since I'm near the beach in southern California I have the luxury of pegging the signal strengths on every phone I've used.
Tmo here is hspa42....fastest I ever got was about 12Mbps down and the system seems locked at 1.5Mbps up (it never deviates higher or lower).
Spurned here is WiMax (and switching to LTE soon) ....Usually get about 12Mbps down and 3-4Mbps up.
Verizon here is LTE.....I've clocked 35Mbps + down and 14-15Mbps up.
In case you think I was lagging on phones I currently have a Gnex, before that a Motorola Photon, before that a Evo3D, before that a Evo4G, before that a GalaxyS Vibrant....and so on and so on.
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It doesn't matter that T-Mobile has HSPA42 where you are because the phone can only handle HSPA21..
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are you the user giving every thread 1-star? lots of 1-star ratings on the front page.
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A lot of poor material threads in General that end up being transferred here after being downrated all to hell. Note: I generally don't rate threads.
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I've been on Tblowbile, Spurnt, and Veryzoned in the last year or so....I can compare more accurately than most.
Since I'm near the beach in southern California I have the luxury of pegging the signal strengths on every phone I've used.
Tmo here is hspa42....fastest I ever got was about 12Mbps down and the system seems locked at 1.5Mbps up (it never deviates higher or lower).
Spurned here is WiMax (and switching to LTE soon) ....Usually get about 12Mbps down and 3-4Mbps up.
Verizon here is LTE.....I've clocked 35Mbps + down and 14-15Mbps up.
In case you think I was lagging on phones I currently have a Gnex, before that a Motorola Photon, before that a Evo3D, before that a Evo4G, before that a GalaxyS Vibrant....and so on and so on.
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Best I've done myself on Gnex:
I get HSDPA: 9 on average but when I start downloading, after a few seconds it kicks to HSPAP:15. I thought it was a battery saving feature?
As a sprint user in Chicago, I hate all of you I would kill just to get 1Mbps on my gnex.
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I'm in Chicago (both in the city and suburbs), and my S3 always shows "3G" in the notification area.
I know AT&T has an LTE network here, so shouldn't it say 4G or LTE? Could this be a problem with my account--or even the phone?
Thanks.
somewhere in the settings should be a network selection to choose between GSM/LTE(4G) and GSM(3G) only....at least on the Verizon phones there usually is, of course it says CDMA/LTE(4G) or CDMA(3G) only
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I'm in Chicago (both in the city and suburbs), and my S3 always shows "3G" in the notification area.
I know AT&T has an LTE network here, so shouldn't it say 4G or LTE? Could this be a problem with my account--or even the phone?
Thanks.
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I have ATT GS3 and it says 4GLTE tiny icon, if you are sure you are in LTE zone and only getting 3g , call AT&T or go to their store , sim could be old/wrong and or your account was not properly activated.
When i got my GS3 i wasnt getting any data at all , called AT&T and they sorted it out.
Run speedtest see what you getting ?
I have at&t in chicago as well. I live up in lake county and work in des plaines. I was also at navy pier a few weeks ago. Never had anything other than 4g or LTE. I literally have never seen the 3g icon on my phone
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Thanks for the replies. I'll give AT&T a call.
I did run speedtest, while the phone was displaying 3G. the download speed was 7686 and upload 5704.
Well, I called AT&T and they couldn't find any problem. After 20 minutes, they said, "There's a network outage reported in Chicago, so that must be it." I asked how long the outage has lasted, and she said 17 hours. But I've had the phone for four days, and have never seen anything but 3G.
At any rate, they said I would have to call back in a couple of days. That conveniently got the rep off the phone.
I live in a 3G area, and it says 4G on my phone. Makes me feel like they are BSing us to believe 4G is everywhere.
Only time it has been off of 4G is when I"m in an Edge area. Speaking of which, I found it interesting that while driving up I90 in Wyoming (didn't look like anything was there for miles and miles), the data speeds were great. I was so surprised. Driving the much busier highways in the midwest, it is Edge, and it sucks.
Sorry...went off topic.
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Well, I called AT&T and they couldn't find any problem. After 20 minutes, they said, "There's a network outage reported in Chicago, so that must be it." I asked how long the outage has lasted, and she said 17 hours. But I've had the phone for four days, and have never seen anything but 3G.
At any rate, they said I would have to call back in a couple of days. That conveniently got the rep off the phone.
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Your account does need to be flagged as LTE or you won't get LTE service. I'm up in Gurnee and all over Chicagoland has pretty good LTE coverage.
Also, check your APN that you're on the "PTA" and not the older APN settings. If you see anything about cingular wap, you're on the old one.
I recommend going to an AT&T store, it's harder to blow you off when you're up in their face.
I have friends in Aurora, Lombard, Lyons and I used to work downtown; I always had great LTE signal out and about as well as my home area of Gurnee/Libertyville.
Lastly, AT&T distinguishes between "4G" which is HSPA+ and "4G LTE" which is their LTE network. Unless you're running a custom ROM with different icons, you'll have an E for edge (2.5G, total ****), 3G for a 3G area that hasn't been upgraded, 4G for a 3G area that's been "backhaul upgraded" to HSPA+ and 4G with a little LTE beneath it for an LTE area.
For me, I can tell speed-wise between "4G" and "4G LTE" mostly by the upload speed. HSPA+ (4G) I never see above 1.2Mbps or so, whereas on LTE I get up to 5Mbps roughly. Sad story is the LTE network in the Chicago area is the slowest of their LTE networks that I've seen anyway. I get so jealous of people in TX and whatnot that get like 24Mbps!
Sorry for the rambling...
One weird thing...when I click on my results in speedtest, it lists the network as LTE, even though the icon always shows 3G.
So maybe it's connecting to LTE, but not showing the correct icon? Does a download speed of 7686 seem faster than 3G?
To follow up, in case this helps anyone...
I spent another half hour on the phone with AT&T--level 1 and level 2 tech support. (The level 2 guy was much less informed than the level 1 woman.) Their bottom line was that I should exchange the phone.
However, when I use the network signal info app, it says I'm on the LTE network. So, I think I have an icon problem, not an actual network connection problem.
I think I'll just live with it, rather than exchange the phone.
was drivin around santa monica today and saw my 4g let icon so I decided to run few speedtest. and the highest numbers are got are this showing in the pic
27Mbps down