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EVO vs TB 4g speeds wtf?

In the Seattle area the best I get is around under 8m up 1m down average around 3-4m down. how come the Thunderbolt speeds are ridiculously faster?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996183&highlight=speed 30m+ uploads wtf?

Different wireless technologies?

madflasher said:
In the Seattle area the best I get is around under 8m up 1m down average around 3-4m down. how come the Thunderbolt speeds are ridiculously faster?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996183&highlight=speed
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Nothing about the thunderbolt's 4g and the Evo's 4g are the same, except for the name. Two completely different technologies. The Evo uses Sprint/Clear's Wimax system, only capable of so much. The thunderbolt uses LTE, which is a completely different ball game. That's why you see all these thread's around talking about if Sprint is going to make the switch to LTE.

Does anyone know if sprint plans on stepping it up?
Went to the Vz store to try the TB thought I was on wifi. Checked. It was 4g. Makes wimax look like **** lol... Like EVO2, IF Vz gets a TB2.. Bye bye sprint.
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I've read of rumors that Sprint, even though they own the controlling share of Clearwire, have already started test LTE on there towers. Technically Sprint already own the frequency range that LTE falls in so it would be a matter of them just setting up the network. It would still be 2012 -> 2013 before it would roll out but if they want to stay in this wireless game then they will have to move to LTE.

Those upload speeds for the thunderbolt aren't accurate btw. Its a known issue with the phone. But yea, LTE is better than Wimax.

madflasher said:
In the Seattle area the best I get is around under 8m up 1m down average around 3-4m down. how come the Thunderbolt speeds are ridiculously faster?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996183&highlight=speed 30m+ uploads wtf?
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Also remember, VZW's LTE has like 2 users in Seattle.
Part of it is technology, yes, but the other part is that there's probably virtually no traffic on their LTE spectrum right now.

TonyArmstrong said:
Also remember, VZW's LTE has like 2 users in Seattle.
Part of it is technology, yes, but the other part is that there's probably virtually no traffic on their LTE spectrum right now.
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+1, since almost everyone who doesn't own an iPhart in seattle owns an evo, sprints wimax lags due to the heavy volume. Try your 4g late at night, it is notably faster.
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Also, it's interesting to note that maximum data-rate with WiMAX is actually (in theory) 20-30% faster than LTE.
The question is one of load per cell, and implementation. VZW says that their "loaded" LTE net will support 5-12Mbps depending on distance from the tower.
One has to wonder, if Clear hadn't spent money on trying to build a retail presence instead of doing more tower build out and optimizing its network for backhaul and QOS to handsets and dongles, what would our WiMAX 4G speeds be like...

T-Mobile 42Mbps?? Yeah right.

Is anyone pulling higher speeds then 700Kb a second on T-mobile's network? I am in Jacksonville, FL where apparently T-Mobile has recently upgraded the network to 42Mbps. I know that the G2 does not support that top speed, but I figure I should be getting better than 5Mbps when they are advertising 42Mbps.

G1ForFun said:
Is anyone pulling higher speeds then 700Kb a second on T-mobile's network? I am in Jacksonville, FL where apparently T-Mobile has recently upgraded the network to 42Mbps. I know that the G2 does not support that top speed, but I figure I should be getting better than 5Mbps when they are advertising 42Mbps.
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Its all BS, look @ the G2x the highest anyone got was 12mbps and its a 21mbps device as tmo advertised it. And those are the speeds we should be getting on the G2, not even 12 we should be getting even 10mbps, and the highest I've gotten was 9 and was just once in tampa florida, in NY the highest was 8
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androidfeen809 said:
Its all BS, look @ the G2x the highest anyone got was 12mbps and its a 21mbps device as tmo advertised it. And those are the speeds we should be getting on the G2, not even 12 we should be getting even 10mbps, and the highest I've gotten was 9 and was just once in tampa florida, in NY the highest was 8
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Thanks....its good to know I am not the only one.
If its to good to be true then it probably is.

You're getting better speeds than I am. I normally get around 2-3 or 4 Mbps here in socal. A few weeks ago I was getting speeds of 5-8 Mbps before they turned on the 42Mbps. And I'm on the new Tmo radio too.

Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.

carsenj said:
Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.
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I see nothing wrong with this thread. I'm not even close to what the G2 should be capable of.
Average down for me here in Sac, CA is 3.9 Mbps.

carsenj said:
Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.
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To me, it's not complaining, but more observing. Especially when, my case I was getting better speeds a few weeks ago compared to now. I understand that more people on the network means more draw and therefore lower speeds. However, one would assume that if a carrier comes out with better service/speeds that older devices would benefit, even though they obviously aren't built for it. I think what's happening here is the same that's been going on, at least with T-Mobile, for the last few years: They come out with higher speeds and the new stuff can take advantage until they get a heavier load and then it suffers until they update the back-haul.
Besides, even though XDA is a technology forum site, it's the General and Q&A subforums like this that make it so people are allowed to have a conversation like this, of which I'm grateful. It could get pretty boring just being limited to just talking about ROMs.

uhh?
if this thread is cause of LATELY my G2 Speeds just got LOW AS HEK,than I'm in them 'Complaints".
for some reason out of nowhere, my speeds have gotten super low...like EDGE speeds. I have 4g icon/H icon and it still running like its on edge.
Market apps downloads takes up to 30 minutes to finish and it only works good on wi-fi.
I've changed my ROMS,KERNELS, & Radios and still LOW SPEEDS.
This has bin goin' on for about..a week and a half now..
anyone else experiencing massive low speeds?
Thanks.

What is the new tmobile radio?
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I pull between 6Mbps and 10Mbps. Just ran test and it was 9.38 down and 1.3 up
Oh and the "upgraded speeds" are only available in 55 markets...not every state in the union
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T-mobile 3G speed is sloooooooow.
But I have no choice and have to keep using it cause I have one of those very old low price family plan that are no longer offered to new customer.

Spastic909 said:
I pull between 6Mbps and 10Mbps. Just ran test and it was 9.38 down and 1.3 up
Oh and the "upgraded speeds" are only available in 55 markets...not every state in the union
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I get these speeds as well, all over Dallas. It's great!

Not again..
Fellas those speeds are only supported by the tmobile rocket right now.. As advertised.. Not any android device or cellphone.
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misbehave said:
T-mobile 3G speed is sloooooooow.
But I have no choice and have to keep using it cause I have one of those very old low price family plan that are no longer offered to new customer.
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I don't think you should be locked on 3g....did you try switching radios or wiping the efs?
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Lol you all should be lucky. I'm just outside the 3g/4g area (Kansas city/olathe/lawrence) so I'm stuck on the beautiful EDGE in Leavenworth. Soooooooooo slooooooooow
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I'm getting 2mb/1.4mb in the Anaheim, CA area, close to disneyland (i'm on vacation) and I currently have about 5.5GBs transferred for the month.
I will update again when I get home in a few days. (Portland, OR) I have been getting about 9mb/5mb there on a regular basis.
And for those of you who are having really slow 4G speeds, you might be getting throttled by tmobile for too much data usage.

[Q] HSPA+ 42 mbps Speeds

I bought my S2 yesterday and so far I love it. I came from an HTC Sensation and what a difference! Nevertheless, I must say I was expecting a little bit more out of the data connection. I'm constantly getting 3 -5 MB/s nothing close to what done reviewers were claiming (9-18+) on speedtest.net. I live in Houston and believe to be inside the 42mbps spectrum. Should I be concerned about this?
What kind of speeds is everyone getting?
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There are a lot of factors that make up your realized data speeds. Being in a 42mbps coverage area means you have the potential to see the highest data speeds offered by T-Mobile. However the actual performance you experience is based on amount of back haul (fiber optic connectivity) coming into the cell site you are connected to and how much demand is on that tower at any given time. I work in a densely populated 42mbps coverage area in central Maryland where the tower I connect to at work also serves two neighboring Colleges. Ever since school went back in session I have been getting ~3mbps data speeds on average during the day. A week ago T-Mobile saw the spike in data demand on that site and brought more back haul into the cell site. Now I get ~15mbps regularly. Now as more people start to use data on that tower it will start to go down again and at some point in the future if the demand gets high enough and speeds slow down enough T-Mobile will presumably have to bring in more back haul to keep up with the demand.
What you can do is call T-Mobile Customer Care and let them know where you are experiencing the slower speeds and they can forward it over to the engineering team. If there is enough demand on that site they will add it to their list of sites to be back hauled.
Your issue is not your phone and most likely not even your coverage it is probably just a cell site that needs more pipe coming into it to serve the demand in that area.
Hope that helps.

Yes it does help, and thanks for clearing this up for me. Undoubtedly, this is the "elephant in the room" spec although the processor isn't bad either. Time to make some phone calls.
Appreciate it mate!
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Honestly if you aren't seeing at least 6-8Mbps during peak usage times the cell site you are on does NOT have dual cell HSPA deployed on it.

I'm in SW Houston. Both my ex-Vibrant and my TMO Galaxy Tab 7 had between just sub-par and plain horrible (read: 4.5 Mbps ... 160kbps) performance. Same results both home and work (inner SW and inner NW respectively).
My SGS II gets about twice or three times as fast (8-10 MBPS, peaks at 14Mbps) at work (NW Houston) but still bad on SW.
Now, here is the kicker: Sometime last week when I got the SGSII I confirmed what I had suspected... The speed test servers we have here (comcast, other) either have very low bandwidth or are bogged down.
So, go and pick another server. I have tried a couple in KY, Lawrence KS and my favorite at Cincinnati OH (that one as given me up to 14Mbps at NW Houston), as well as some random others.
Some conclusions I have to come based on my experiences:
SGSII has a better radio than the SGS (the least they could do?)
Using your local/nearest speedtest.net server is not always optimal.
All Galaxyes (y?) I own are super sensitive when running a speed test. Its 3D orientation as well as where your hand* and even yourself are, make major differences. Try and see while running a test to see numbers change and find your perfect "position".
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[*] Brings to memory -respectfully- Mr. Jobs' famous response: "You are holding it wrong."

I have had the T-Mo-SGS2 for a while using just Wi-Fi and VoIP. I just signed up for the 30$ a month plan. Here is what I am seeing @ my desk, indoors near Chicago. I was quite impressed, it was faster than what I was seeing with Verizon 4G on a MiFi I was borrowing in LA. Not sure about the upload, I have seen it as high as 4-5Mbps but it is pretty inconsistent. Down has been consistently 10-12Mbps +. Only had it for a little bit but I guess I am in a sweet spot.
23.23Mbps down & 2Mbps up was the fastest down speed after <10 speed tests
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Verizon Nexus users, I have a few questions about service etc.

Im going to be coming from Sprint to possibly verizon. I was wondering a few things
1. How is the service? I get BAD 3g speeds ( around .5mb ) and 4g is decent whenever I can get it ( 5mb or so ). Whats their average 3g and 4g speeds?
2. What about phones? Im coming from the Evo and its still considered a top contender with the new phones that are out there now. I dont want an iphone, Id like to stay android. Any phones out there that are pretty good? How is the nexus? Anything better? Anything worth waiting for?
Any and all help is appreciated.

My signal is great. I can pull about 2 mbps down with 3G and average 15-20 mbps down with 4G. Occasionally I can hit 30 mbps. I would recommend the Nexus if you want an all around great phone. The Razr Maxx would be a second choice if you absolutely need the extra battery life.
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TeeRom said:
My signal is great. I can pull about 2 mbps down with 3G and average 15-20 mbps down with 4G. Occasionally I can hit 30 mbps. I would recommend the Nexus if you want an all around great phone. The Razr Maxx would be a second choice if you absolutely need the extra battery life.
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+1. The signal is always strong. I have about the same with 3g, 4g about 10-12 down. The customer service is amazing as well. I came from the HTC incredible to the GNex and I love this phone. It's got everything I need. Takes a toll on the battery but whatev.
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i have been with every carrier exept at&t in the past month and verizon is the best
sprint was my carrier for a year and the 3g was abysmal but what made it worse is there is no 4 g in phoenix

With Verizon 3G DL's average .4 - .5mb, 4G depending on location, ranges between 1mb (rare) to 25mb in saturated areas (for me averaging 8-16mb). As far as phones with VZ, 1.) Galaxy Nexus. 2.) HTC Rezound 3.) Moto Razr 4.) LG Spectrum. All of which blow any Evo out of the water in both hardware and performance. Sprint sucks
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Depends on your location. Had sprint since I was in 4th grade now in college. Switched to Verizon with my family and where we used to get not even 200kbps with sprint we get 27mb 4G in Tucson. On my sisters 3G iPhone she gets 2-3mb.
Just costs more but you do get what you pay for . Service. Thus far I have never lost service on Verizon's network but was always in fringe areas it seemed on Sprint.
Took a trip to Yuma to head to Mexico for some cheap work on replacing my clutch on truck had 3g all the way and streaming Sirius to my phone.
IMO Verizon is worth it.
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Was a ten year sprint customer and left if 3 reasons.
Their 4g wimax is dead and in process of switching to Lte. So any phone you buy with wimax is already antiquated.
I sometimes would get good signal but the speeds sucked on both 3 and 4g(when you could find it) and my house happens to be in a spotty area when it shouldn't be.
every phone they have out now is just a rehashed evo.
I knew made the right change when i drove over bridge in my area (daily commute), where I would always drop calls, and not only did I not drop but my 4g was 2 bars. I pretty much get 4g everywhere now.

I suggest going to your local VZW store and running speed tests. I've seen "3G" pull down 80Kbps, and I've seen it pull down 1.4 megs. I've seen LTE range from 6 megs to 40 megs.
Device wise, if you want to tinker, get the GNex. Ignore all the blithering whining that completely over runs this place. There's nothing wrong with the device. If you don't want to tinker, I'd look at the Rezound and the Razr Maxx. My personal preferences:
1) GNex
2) Rezound
3) Razr Maxx
They're all really good devices. Play with them all and grab up the one you like the best.

One more thing... Expect your bill on vzw to be about twenty dollars more than sprint; worth it in my opinion.

Thanks all. I did the comparison and I'll get less data and less mintues for around the same price
Here is the break down. With sprint I have 2 phones ( so right off the bat, there is a 10$ per phone smartphone charge them tack on ; think 20 bucks here ) add a line for 9.99, 1800 mins ( free mobile to mobile, text, MMS, SMS ) unlimited data ( at SLOW ****ING speeds... )
I used a grand total ( between two phones ) around 80 mins. And that was mostly mobile to mobile. The landline minutes were like 30 mins.
With Verizon I would get 4gb per phone, FASTER speeds, 700 mins ( free verizon to verizon, but no others ) 30 bucks for unlimited sms mms etc etc.. all for around the same price. Im a data user mostly, so that is what pushes me around. I cannot do sprint anymore.

The Verizon service is excellent. I love the phone but it has 2 major issues. Data dropping and the loss of outbound audio bug, which is the worst bug I've ever experienced on a phone. Hopefully a software update will fix those issues.
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wow that would be a potential game changer. I need to mess with my android devices, and I would like to have the nexus versus the moto. But no one has seen a fix for those issues? Guess its a prominent bug out there?

3g is meh. 4g I get between 10-22. Just buy the galaxy nexus.
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yeah well my 3g speeds are .5-.7 on average... haha Im hoping verizon is better than that.

mroneeyedboh said:
yeah well my 3g speeds are .5-.7 on average... haha Im hoping verizon is better than that.
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Will depend on Area. Don't expect Verizon's 3G to be drastically faster than that.

mmmm dammit haha. I thought verizon was one of the if not the fastest like 3-5mb on 3g and around 20 or so on 4g.

mroneeyedboh said:
mmmm dammit haha. I thought verizon was one of the if not the fastest like 3-5mb on 3g and around 20 or so on 4g.
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The theoretical max speeds for EVDO rev A are only 3.1mbps down / 800kbps up. And those aren't real world. Expect the low 2mbps range at most.
CDMA carriers have atrocious 3G speeds compared to GSM carriers. UMTS beats EVDO easily, HSPA even more-so.
This is why you're seeing Verizon push LTE so hard, because it gives them the speed advantage again. It also offers them simultaneous voice + data, and the eventual move to VoLTE.
Honestly, I'd personally rather have 8mbps all the time on HSPA+ than 1.5mbps sometimes and 20mbps other times.

mroneeyedboh said:
mmmm dammit haha. I thought verizon was one of the if not the fastest like 3-5mb on 3g and around 20 or so on 4g.
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I don't even think 3G supports those speeds. In the few weeks I have been with Verizon I have seen in bad area's with low signal hit around 200-500kbs. In these area's Sprint would be around 30kbs, lol. In good area's where Sprint would get .500kbs-.700kbs I pull about 1.5 - 2mbs on Verizon. I do get 4G all over with Verizon as well as Sprint would be in and out all over the place...
It was great to be at the malls food court tonight and play a HD Youtube video of Yo Gabba Gabba for my son to keep him busy. Verizon's 4G in most places is faster then my home internet.
As far as the phone, the GN is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better then the EVO. I have owned the EVO, EVO 3D and the Epic 4G Touch. The only phone in the same league is the Epic 4G Touch but the GN just has cooler things going for it that make me not miss my E4GT.
As far as dropped data goes, it looks like more of a bad batch of phones. My first GN would drop 4G constantly. I got a replacement and this one never drops data. Keeps 4G consistently. I also haven't had a problem with calls as others have mentioned.
I do not think any other phone on Verizon offers what the GN does but other devices I would would fall right below in line would be the Rezound and Razr Maxx.
For the GN, make sure to buy the extended battery as you will need it. Verizon online has it on sale for $24.99 and it barely makes the device and larger then stock. I would aslo suggest ordering the phone from Amazon as they sell it for $99 and their customer service rocks!

Ahh okay so AT&T hs faster speeds with the HSPA versus EVDO cdma 3g? Then its a no brainer to go with AT&T if I want faster speeds..

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The theoretical max speeds for EVDO rev A are only 3.1mbps down / 800kbps up. And those aren't real world. Expect the low 2mbps range.
CDMA carriers have atrocious 3G speeds compared to GSM carriers. UMTS beats EVDO easily, HSPA even more-so.
This is why you're seeing Verizon push LTE so hard, because it gives them the speed advantage again. It also offers them simultaneous voice + data, and the eventual move to VoLTE.
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That's true. CDMA 3g technology speeds is considerably slower in relation to 3g speeds on a GSM network...... However, CDMA Technology does provide a more stable and reliable network with far fewer dropped calls. That is one of the reasons why Verizon is consistently rated #1 in the US year after year. In the past, it was a trade off (slower data for better reliability). Today, the fact that Verizon has the only real 4G LTE network infrastructure makes the decision now a no-brainer.
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Radio comparison - Verizon GN vs Thunderbolt

Both phones set to CDMA EVDO only, no LTE radios active. Location is 3G EHRPD enabled, but does not have any 4G towers for miles. I held both phones the exact same way in the exact same location within 30 seconds of each other to record my results.
Signal Test:
Galaxy Nexus 3G Signal Strength: 0-1 bars, -120dbm 99 asu - -100dbm 1 asu
Thunderbolt 3G Signal Strength: 1-3 bars, -94dbm 2 asu - -85dbm 2 asu
Bandwidth Test:
Galaxy Nexus 3G Bandwidth: 0.86mbps down, 0.54mbps up
Thunderbolt 3G Bandwidth: 2.94mbps down, 0.56mbps up
Bandwidth test was the best of 3 runs using www.speakeasy.net/speedtest connecting to New York, NY. Current location is central NJ.
My Galaxy Nexus is running stock 4.0.4 with the newest radios and bootloader, along with Imo's kernel 2.4.1 exp2.
Honestly, after having my Thunderbolt for 8 months, coming to this supposed better phone and having these kind of radio problems is just appalling. The Thunderbolt was always railed for being the pioneer of LTE radios, and for getting weak signal. Well after these tests I am not sure what to believe besides the truth that is sitting in front of me. My brand spanking new Google phone has by far the worst radio I've ever seen in a Verizon smartphone.
I'm going to be hopeful in getting an update that may resolve these radio issues, but the realist in me tells me this is 100% hardware.
I'd like to get some results from other Verizon Galaxy Nexus users running 3G to see what kind of dbm and bar signal, as well as what kind of bandwidth you guys are getting. I am very disappointed and want to know if it's a hardware defect or if this phones radios' really are this bad

Meh. The Qualcomm radios in both of these phones are in fact ****. I think the build of the Galaxy Nexus (whether it be physical or software) has something to do with it. Maybe Samsung herp derped the position of the radios or Google took a **** on the blobs.
Regardless, its a great phone and still gets better data speeds than every other carrier and phone. -coughs- iPhone users -coughs-
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Except it doesn't get the best data speeds of any other phones, as my test results conclude.
Even on 4G I've nabbed 40mbps down 15mbps up bandwidth tests on that same exact Thunderbolt when I was in a good signal 4G area. How much have most GN users hit on 4G? 30mbps down?
This phone is a great micro-tablet, but as a phone it is heavily lacking.

DaRkL3AD3R said:
Except it doesn't get the best data speeds of any other phones, as my test results conclude.
Even on 4G I've nabbed 40mbps down 15mbps up bandwidth tests on that same exact Thunderbolt when I was in a good signal 4G area. How much have most GN users hit on 4G? 30mbps down?
This phone is a great micro-tablet, but as a phone it is heavily lacking.
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Really, cause I have seen people getting upwards of 50mb/s on the Nexus (seems like most of them live in NYC).
Not to mention I was talking about people on other carriers.
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Other carriers is a given, but that really isn't what the point of this comparison is. The point is I'm holding two phones on the same carrier, at the same time, the same way, and one performs multitudes greater performance than the other. Has nothing to do with other carriers.
Fact is this phones radio is junk. You can have a quad core 1080p Super AMOLED Plus screen and 2GB of RAM, the best GPU on the market and 128GB of space, but if it can't hold a signal to save YOUR life, then what good is it at as a phone?
Samsung/Google needs to get on this right now and fix this phones radio. I'm just worried that it can't be fixed through a software OTA...
And I'd also like some speed comparisons, namely 3G, from other Verizon GN users if possible please.

On 3g i used to get about -75 at worst with thunderbolt at my house. Currently getting -93 at best with two different galaxy nexus. Usually worse. Used to have a stable 4g signal too. Now it drops after a few seconds

johnprevite said:
On 3g i used to get about -75 at worst with thunderbolt at my house. Currently getting -93 at best with two different galaxy nexus. Usually
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That sounds about right... very disappointed in these radios.

I get the same -120dbm, 99asu with my Nexus at home, where I would get around 95dbm on my old Tbolt. I think the antenna/radio gives up signal quicker at the fringe distances faster on the Nexus - if I go into a city I get the signal strength I am supposed to get. I have a theory that part of the problem may lie with Verizon's use of old Alltel towers (I'm on the VA/NC border) - The signal in my area is consistently weak, but I've gone to other rural areas & gotten good strength. Perhaps Samsung/VZW will give us a software update on the phones...and perhaps when they upgrade our towers around here for LTE it might straighten up the tower's overall firmware...But we probably wont get LTE here until 2020.

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I get the same -120dbm, 99asu with my Nexus at home, where I would get around 95dbm on my old Tbolt. I think the antenna/radio gives up signal quicker at the fringe distances faster on the Nexus - if I go into a city I get the signal strength I am supposed to get. I have a theory that part of the problem may lie with Verizon's use of old Alltel towers (I'm on the VA/NC border) - The signal in my area is consistently weak, but I've gone to other rural areas & gotten good strength. Perhaps Samsung/VZW will give us a software update on the phones...and perhaps when they upgrade our towers around here for LTE it might straighten up the tower's overall firmware...But we probably wont get LTE here until 2020.
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LTE will cover Verizon's current 3G footprint by the end of 2013, FYI.

Here's hoping!
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