OK so we got a SE Experia Arc S LT18i with 1253-8238_4.0.1.A.0.165 ('prototype' model on loan from a friend = prehistoric!) and looking into upgrading the thing if at all possible.
So if I am correct it's a case of: 1st: Root, 2nd: Unlock bootloader, 3rd: Install recovery, 4th: Flash ROM of choice
Bootloader is locked and phone not rooted.
Tried using Flashtool to root phone but it is greyed out so tried Tools > Root > Force zergRush = fail, (not tried Force psneuter/Emulator ?)
Tried unlocking bootloader using Flashtool, but this also failed (SE unlock website wanted IMEI code one digit less than the phone reports?!! got a code by ditching the first 0 of the IMEI, but didn't work anyway - crashed phone)
Attempted to root using command line ADB method to push zergRush and execute the script, but this too doesn't work (phone crashes and reboots).
Fastboot? I have it installed but not yet come across any how-to's that use this (did I say yet? )
The apps available on Play Store seem to be automations of above methods for one-click users.
Further exhaustive reading/searching here and on talk.sonymobile.com leads me to believe that the first step might be to flash a different kernel version before it's possible to root, after which everything else should fall into place...I'm up for trying this but of course don't want to risk bricking the phone, so backing up first would be a good plan, *but* I need root to be able to install recovery! I know enough about booting operating systems to know that changing kernel version with a locked boot loader might just result in bork! This is where the expertise of you guys comes in!! Maybe you know that flashing another (similar?) kernel will be fine with Fashtool even without unlocking bootloader and rooting phone? Perhaps I missed a simple and easy way of rooting? Any suggestions very welcome - thanks in advance!
FYI: *I only run Linux* so pointing me at any of the windows tools on offer is of no help to me
Oh and PS: yes I have searched and found a ton of helpful info, well actually *way too much* info to the point of saturation and confusion!! :laugh:
There can never be too much information, yours and others problem is that you try rushing through it, because if you didn't you'd find the answers you were looking for.
Sent from my CM9'd Arc
XperienceD said:
There can never be too much information, yours and others problem is that you try rushing through it, because if you didn't you'd find the answers you were looking for.
Sent from my CM9'd Arc
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Well it's not the quantity of info, but the quality of info! Failing that the filtration system used to distill the good stuff out!
Anyroads, I was still hoping for someone to chip in with something like "Yeah go for it, that will work fine"! or "Don't do it, try this instead"!
I'm believing from my readings so far, that short of flashing an incorrect radio, or interrupting a flash process, it isn't easily possible to brick an Arc?
acesabe said:
Anyroads, I was still hoping for someone to chip in with something like "Yeah go for it, that will work fine"!
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I would have just tried it instead of starting a thread to ask, failing that I would have then read the stickys/guides explaining how to unlock and root.
acesabe said:
it isn't easily possible to brick an Arc?
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No, you would just use the flashtool to flash a stock ROM.
XperienceD said:
I would have just tried it instead of starting a thread to ask, failing that I would have then read the stickys/guides explaining how to unlock and root.
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Well, that's because you are XperienceD!
No, you would just use the flashtool to flash a stock ROM.
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Ok cool, so Flashtool can be used to save an unbootable device too then...
acesabe said:
Well, that's because you are XperienceD!
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It's how I got to be experienced. :silly:
acesabe said:
Ok cool, so Flashtool can be used to save an unbootable device too then...
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Yep, you just need to flash a stock ROM.
XperienceD said:
I would have just tried it instead of starting a thread to ask, failing that I would have then read the stickys/guides explaining how to unlock and root.
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Me too.
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For unlocked bootloaders only!
Please use the recovery now to root any firmware!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1596285
Just flash the SuperSU cwm zip with recovery and your phone will be rooted. To download SuperSU visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Regards
Bin4ry said:
For unlocked bootloaders only!
Download:
http://eddy.uni-duisburg.de/bin4ry/system_xps_prerooted_63fw.img
Connect device in fastboot mode (blue LED).
Open Command prompt and type:
fastboot flash system system_xps_prerooted_63fw.img
This will give you root immediatly after reboot!
A nicer way will come soon. But this should solve first problems
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ERRRR u beat me to it
Cholek3 said:
Guys, you're asolutely f***ing amazing. Congrats.
Do you mean Command prompt in ADB or windows?
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In Windows command prompt. But ou need fastboot installed.
This is only fist shot. If you dont know really what im talking about, then please wait for another image with good instructions
Jozinek said:
I can confirm, that it work, many thanks.
Edit - it work, but i cant downloads anything from Market, so back to stock version without root. Will wait on new kernel
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If you get market problems go ot Settings -> Apps -> ... -> Search for the market in the list and then delete Data of the App. After that all will work fine.
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Bin4ry said:
In Windows command prompt. But ou need fastboot installed.
This is only fist shot. If you dont know really what im talking about, then please wait for another image with good instructions
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I know roughly what you are talking about. I know command prompt, although I never used fastboot, as I only owned X10 (until I dropped it and USB port snapped ), so never had to/wanted to unlock bootloader this way. But I want to learn, that's why I am reading all this now, and I need to ask about something I am not sure of.
Just go through the unlock bootloader process and then you will know what fastboot is
After that just type my comamnd with my file in the same directory and you will be done.
Regards
If I were you I would wait till I get ICS on the phone then unlock the bootloader and root the phone.
Quick question. It just wonders me. Sony "supports" unlocking bootloader, which is more dangerous than root. Why rooting is not supported then? Is it because we could unistall third party aplications and Sony has some sort of agreements with them and are obligated by law?
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Quick question. It just wonders me. Sony "supports" unlocking bootloader, which is more dangerous than root. Why rooting is not supported then? Is it because we could unistall third party aplications and Sony has some sort of agreements with them and are obligated by law?
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No you are getting the idea wrong
Long ago we discussed alot with SonyEricsson and together decided this is the best way of doing it.
The reason is simple:
Rooting alone does not give you access to all partitions etc. pp See X10 Forums for that. Sony is very good in hiding partitions
With a bootloader unlock we get fully workable fastboot. We are able to write all partitions and change what we want. (Root too)
Also Sony(Ericsson) is able to track who unlocks and who not AND is able to provide a check mechanism to forbid unlocking of phones which are not owned by the user (for example provider branded phones in contract, the phone is usually property of the provider).
So this is the reason. Unlocked bootloader gives us nearly full access, so no need to worry I am in this game since X10 times (like you or not ?)and we always got the phones working like we wanted.
Our work for CM9 on XPS has started now too.
Regards
Bin4ry said:
No you are getting the idea wrong
Long ago we discussed alot with SonyEricsson and together decided this is the best way of doing it.
The reason is simple:
Rooting alone does not give you access to all partitions etc. pp See X10 Forums for that. Sony is very good in hiding partitions
With a bootloader unlock we get fully workable fastboot. We are able to write all partitions and change what we want. (Root too)
Also Sony(Ericsson) is able to track who unlocks and who not AND is able to provide a check mechanism to forbid unlocking of phones which are not owned by the user (for example provider branded phones in contract, the phone is usually property of the provider).
So this is the reason. Unlocked bootloader gives us nearly full access, so no need to worry I am in this game since X10 times (like you or not ?)and we always got the phones working like we wanted.
Our work for CM9 on XPS has started now too.
Regards
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See, I was not aware of that "agreement". Now everything seems to make sense. I am android user since I bought X10 back in August 2010. I was more or less following XDA since then as well, but this forum is worldwide community and is almost imposible to keep a track on everything. I would consider myself somewhere between rookie and advanced users. I know how to do certain things (root, how to use ADB, I was changing framwork_res.apk for my own purposes, etc.). My point also is, I am more hardware sort of guy, rather than software. That's why I am glad you guys are here with us.
Will this wipe the phone data or only the system partition ?
Cholek3 said:
My point also is, I am more hardware sort of guy, rather than software. That's why I am glad you guys are here with us.
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Hehe no problem. I'm hardware and software guy
gbil said:
Will this wipe the phone data or only the system partition ?
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Well no. But the first step is that you need to unlock bootloader and THIS WILL wipe your data. To flash the systempartition itself will not wipe userdata.
Cholek3 said:
Yes, I agree. But myself, I will wait for root for phones with locked bootloader as well. I assume I will be happy with phone speed, but when CM9 comes out, then I will consider unlockin bootloader.
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Your choice, i hope too that we will get a nice exploit again soon. But i personally have to time to work on an exploit.
Regards
3Shirts said:
Screw that! There are too many useful reasons for root. My motto:
Got android? Get root!
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True that, after I heard that you can lock back the bootloader and update it via SEUS or PCC, I'm so gonna root it and true again.
thanks sir at all
every thing is ok bootloader is unlocked now and root is ok
just i face a problem when i restored 340 (programs+games) through titanium backup pro ...... and when opening just only setting application my phone force close setting menu .......i dont know why although i still have 330 mb free in app
thanks in advanced
hasan_abeer said:
thanks sir at all
every thing is ok bootloader is unlocked now and root is ok
just i face a problem when i restored 340 (programs+games) through titanium backup pro ...... and when opening just only setting application my phone force close setting menu .......i dont know why although i still have 330 mb free in app
thanks in advanced
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So you restored with Titanium. Since Titanium is a Root app and you don't had Root before i think you are trying to restore a backup from another phone.
If you do that you have to assure that you ONLY RESTORE APPS and NOT SETTINGS! Settings from another phone will be most likely incompatible.
So this wil be your problem!
Regards
Bin4ry said:
So you restored with Titanium. Since Titanium is a Root app and you don't had Root before i think you are trying to restore a backup from another phone.
If you do that you have to assure that you ONLY RESTORE APPS and NOT SETTINGS! Settings from another phone will be most likely incompatible.
So this wil be your problem!
Regards
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thanks sir i do so restore app+data from samsung galaxy note ........what is the best way to restore :
could i reset my phone through setting+pivacy+factory data reset without affecting root or i must reflash this rom in order to save root
thanks again for your hard job
rgrds
hasan_abeer said:
thanks sir i do so restore app+data from samsung galaxy note ........what is the best way to restore :
could i reset my phone through setting+pivacy+factory data reset without affecting root or i must reflash this rom in order to save root
thanks again for your hard job
rgrds
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Restore only Apps in Titanium not Data! If you factory reset the phone root is still there
Regards
does the super one click work after bootloader unlocked?
unic0de said:
does the super one click work after bootloader unlocked?
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I don't think it will, otherwise somebody would already confirmed that I think. At the moment the only way is to flash appropriate firmware (only with unlocked bootloader).
Thread cleaned guys.
Constructive posts only, if you want to say thanks then hit the thanks button.
to whom it concern for call recorder over this rom works like a charm both sides very clear and great loud
just use callrecorder by SKVALEX(green color) from market with choosing recording calls from kernel with 2 way recording patch(root required) option
+wav format
enjoy my friends
great thanks to mr Bin4ry for rooting rom
rgrds
ok guys i just picked up a play for att. sucks cause i have tmobile and wont get the 3/4g data. im almost always in wifi spots anyway so no big deal.
anyway i have already called att and got the phone sim unlocked. now if i think i understand this correctly this should be the order to follow. if you guys can confirm and provide latest links i would appreciate greatly.
1. sim unlock (done)
2. unlock bootloader (not yet)
3. root (not yet)
4. load rom (not yet)
correct??? did i miss anything? any preferred method on any of these? please advise.
thanks!!!
First of all, if you bought a xperia PLAY, you should probably post in the xperia PLAY forums.
Second of all, questions go in the Q & A forum.
To answer your question, that's pretty much the right order.
Sent from my LT15a using XDA
DdcCabuslay said:
First of all, if you bought a xperia PLAY, you should probably post in the xperia PLAY forums.
Second of all, questions go in the Q & A forum.
To answer your question, that's pretty much the right order.
Sent from my LT15a using XDA
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i deserve the flaming. i did edit my post in hopes that a mod would see and put in the right forum for me.
kdm212 said:
ok guys i just picked up a play for att. sucks cause i have tmobile and wont get the 3/4g data. im almost always in wifi spots anyway so no big deal.
anyway i have already called att and got the phone sim unlocked. now if i think i understand this correctly this should be the order to follow. if you guys can confirm and provide latest links i would appreciate greatly.
1. sim unlock (done)
2. unlock bootloader (not yet)
3. root (not yet)
4. load rom (not yet)
correct??? did i miss anything? any preferred method on any of these? please advise.
thanks!!!
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yeh, thats right, but you need a recovery after root and before loading rom
TheHaso said:
yeh, thats right, but you need a recovery after root and before loading rom
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well somewhere along the line i bricked the phone.
i was able to install clockwork recovery. i then tried to install a rom. and it froze for well over 30 min. so now all i can get to is the se logo. cant boot into recovery on boot up at all. how do you check to see if you have an unlocked bootloader?
any chance of restarting over? loading the stock rom?
flash a generic global world img from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330314
next time take a backup.
Retrosid said:
flash a generic global world img from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330314
next time take a backup.
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i flashed an ftf world file and now i just have a black screen. no booting up.
If you have unlocked bootloader since I can't figure it out of your posts, flash another kernel
Sent from my Xperia Arc
Retrosid said:
If you have unlocked bootloader since I can't figure it out of your posts, flash another kernel
Sent from my Xperia Arc
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thats where my problem is i believe. i dont think the bootloader was ever unlocked.
edit: tried rebooting the phone and the flashlight turns on lol but nothing else!
kdm212 said:
thats where my problem is i believe. i dont think the bootloader was ever unlocked.
edit: tried rebooting the phone and the flashlight turns on lol but nothing else!
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Have you tried to use SE PC companion to restore phone to factory state?
From support start update and click repair phone.
That could bring your phone back to life.
Muurahainen said:
Have you tried to use SE PC companion to restore phone to factory state?
From support start update and click repair phone.
That could bring your phone back to life.
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ill give that a shot. im willing to try anything now...
no software available...what about flashing an img file? do i need root or the bootloader unlocked for that? if i dont need those items how do i go about flashing the img?
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ill give that a shot. im willing to try anything now...
no software available...what about flashing an img file? do i need root or the bootloader unlocked for that? if i dont need those items how do i go about flashing the img?
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That repair button didn't work?
For img flash you can use flashtool.
You don't need root or anything to use flashtool on your phone.
Just pick correct .ftf for your phone and flash it to the phone.
Do normal firmwares work on at&t's 4G version?
Maybe that's the problem
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finally!!! got it i was continuing to search everywhere for an answer and i stumbled upon another guy here on the site that had a similar issue. sooo i went to the site he found, xperiagamer.com and got the att firmware. flashed it and bingo im back!
thanks for all the help and suggestions men. this truly is a great site!
i do have some additional questions though. now that im back to square one im pondering trying again OR just rooting so i can remove the bloatware. if i just go the root method what the best way?
thanks!!!
kdm212 said:
finally!!! got it i was continuing to search everywhere for an answer and i stumbled upon another guy here on the site that had a similar issue. sooo i went to the site he found, xperiagamer.com and got the att firmware. flashed it and bingo im back!
thanks for all the help and suggestions men. this truly is a great site!
i do have some additional questions though. now that im back to square one im pondering trying again OR just rooting so i can remove the bloatware. if i just go the root method what the best way?
thanks!!!
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If you were rooted before you don't need to re-root unless you purposely unrooted it. IF you aren't rooted anymore superoneclick or the zergrush(however it's spelled) is the easiest. I'm 99% sure you don't have an unlocked bootloader though, so you have very few options. I'd say re-root if you need to and unlock your bootloader so you can flash flash and flash custom roms like crazy
kdm212 said:
well somewhere along the line i bricked the phone.
i was able to install clockwork recovery. i then tried to install a rom. and it froze for well over 30 min. so now all i can get to is the se logo. cant boot into recovery on boot up at all. how do you check to see if you have an unlocked bootloader?
any chance of restarting over? loading the stock rom?
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It got bricked because you didn't unlock your bootloader.
1.Root your phone
2.Install Recovery
3.Unlock Bootloader
4.FINALLY!! you install a rom okay?
I was a noob too so it's okay now I'm a higher class noob.try flashing your ftf again.
Sent from my R800x using XDA
MrHaPpY66 said:
It got bricked because you didn't unlock your bootloader.
1.Root your phone
2.Install Recovery
3.Unlock Bootloader
4.FINALLY!! you install a rom okay?
I was a noob too so it's okay now I'm a higher class noob.try flashing your ftf again.
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well i got the phone back up and running. its now rooted again. i was doing some research. if i understand correctly the att version cannot have the bootloader unlocked. can anyone confirm this?
You need to pay Setool credits in order to unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to lose the sin lock as well, so you could have killed two birds with the same stone.
Logseman said:
You need to pay Setool credits in order to unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to lose the sin lock as well, so you could have killed two birds with the same stone.
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ya i just found the website. seems like thats the one everyone is sent to on this site.
im wondering now that im rooted if i can clean this stock rom up enough to use on a daily basis. i mean im using tmobile on the device so sharing internet would only be edge lol. i guess the only thing i really want ics for is that fact that its ics.
open the dial pad and use this code*#*#7378423#*#* . Then go to -> "Service Info" -> "Configuration".
If it says unlock bootloader = no, then you have to use the paid service, if yes, then you can do it for free yourself.
Hi,
I am been researching for few weeks now. Being just an android user and a beginner level android developer, I am kind of lost in trying to solve my issue. I bought a Xperia Play. It is carrier unlocked. The main issue is the internal memory which keeps getting filled up from time to time, that makes me sacrifice some less used but important apps. I would like to make use of my phone more efficiently and utilise it to its maximum potential. Request someone to help me achieve this by helping me remove these apps.
Thanks
you have to root your phone first and u will find a tutorial im the development section... And after that you can use titanium backup to remove those apps
Hi,
Thanks for the info. But I am kind of lost when I went through the forum. Can you please guide me a specific one? Thanks.
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app
You could unlock your bootloader. You can do this here: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
This enables you to flash custom Kernels and Roms. Although you don't need this if you only want to root your phone, but in my experience custom roms and kernels are a great advantage if you want to get more out of your phone
The rooting thread would be this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325334
Bombasti said:
You could unlock your bootloader. You can do this here: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
This enables you to flash custom Kernels and Roms. Although you don't need this if you only want to root your phone, but in my experience custom roms and kernels are a great advantage if you want to get more out of your phone
The rooting thread would be this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325334
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Thanks Bombasti, but the unlock boot loader from sony mobile does not work for phones with IMEI numbers greater than 14 digits. Further, I also tried SuperOneClick but I keep getting the errors in Step 1 stating that the "rm failed for /data/local/tmp/boomsh. No such file directory", Step 2 also returns similar result. Can you help. Thanks.
xdadevprince said:
Hi,
Thanks for the info. But I am kind of lost when I went through the forum. Can you please guide me a specific one? Thanks.
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app
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Go to the general section then look for my "Mega thread all my tutorials in one thread"
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xdadevprince said:
Thanks Bombasti, but the unlock boot loader from sony mobile does not work for phones with IMEI numbers greater than 14 digits. Further, I also tried SuperOneClick but I keep getting the errors in Step 1 stating that the "rm failed for /data/local/tmp/boomsh. No such file directory", Step 2 also returns similar result. Can you help. Thanks.
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Enter the first 14digits
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xdadevprince said:
Thanks Bombasti, but the unlock boot loader from sony mobile does not work for phones with IMEI numbers greater than 14 digits. Further, I also tried SuperOneClick but I keep getting the errors in Step 1 stating that the "rm failed for /data/local/tmp/boomsh. No such file directory", Step 2 also returns similar result. Can you help. Thanks.
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This is not correct. You just have to enter the 14 first digits. So it should work for your phone unless there are other restrictions (e.g. from your phone provider).
Did you try it with the first 14 digits?
Also did you run SuperOneClick as administrator? I have no idea how SupoerOneClick works, but the error says that it can't remove a directory that doesn't exist. Maybe you can create the dir on your phone to fool the program?
Greetings,
Bombasti
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I checked the SuperOneClick thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682/
The R800i isn't listed as compatible device, what doesn't mean it's not compatible since the list is incomplete. But I remember that it didn't work for my phone either ( I tried it some time ago). I solved the problem through flashing an already rooted rom. Later i user Cyanogenmod which rooted from the beginning. But this needs an unlocked bootloader first...
Bombasti said:
This is not correct. You just have to enter the 14 first digits. So it should work for your phone unless there are other restrictions (e.g. from your phone provider).
Did you try it with the first 14 digits?
Also did you run SuperOneClick as administrator? I have no idea how SupoerOneClick works, but the error says that it can't remove a directory that doesn't exist. Maybe you can create the dir on your phone to fool the program?
Greetings,
Bombasti
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I checked the SuperOneClick thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682/
The R800i isn't listed as compatible device, what doesn't mean it's not compatible since the list is incomplete. But I remember that it didn't work for my phone either ( I tried it some time ago). I solved the problem through flashing an already rooted rom. Later i user Cyanogenmod which rooted from the beginning. But this needs an unlocked bootloader first...
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superoneclick works fine just make sure you have all the drivers installed
fma965 said:
superoneclick works fine just make sure you have all the drivers installed
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Ah that might have been my problem then.
Bombasti said:
Ah that might have been my problem then.
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by all I meant the adb,fastboot and flashmode
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Hi all!
Okay so I'm ready to bash my face off something till I die... lol I've been up all night screwing with my xperia play from rogers. First I did the touchpoint method to unlock the bootloader and s1tool confirms that it's unlocked. However, no fastboot and when I punch in the code provided by SE to see the value of "bootloader unlock allowed"... it's still "no". From what I understand the touchpoint method shouldn't change this value. However because this value is still set, I have a feeling that this is why I can't enable fastboot.
I'm trying to flash a custom jellybean rom using flashtool and because of the aforementioned situation, I can't. I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction to get fastboot working. I hate that I've paid through the nose for all the android devices I own and I yet I still don't technically own them. Anyway I won't rant....
P.S. Just to be verbose, when I do fastboot.exe devices... just hangs saying waiting for device. Device shows up in Device Manager but is code 31 cannot start. Also if I hold search and plug in USB or any of those combos I absolutely cannot get a blue light. I can also assure anyone that I've spent probably 8 hours straight googling the bleep out of this issue and working on it so I'm not being lazy I've just reached the limits of what I can do on my own and am begging for any help that is available!
Thanks in advance!
Also just more info, I've got the devices rooted if that makes anything simpler or opens up options. I'm also wondering if this might be a driver issue because I was doing this on my windows 8 machine and from 7 up you have to do a bunch of stupid temporary system configurations to allow unsigned drivers plus wondering if it's a driver incompatibility issue. If that's the case can I use flashtool on my linux machine? Something I'll look in to... just wanted to post as much info as I can. Thanks again!
So no one in this forum has any idea?
No one here has absolutely any idea about what I can or can't do with this bootloader situation? Wow....
You dont have fastboot thats why but you can flash. Ftf custom kernels
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psxpetey said:
You dont have fastboot thats why but you can flash. Ftf custom kernels
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Pardon my ignorance.... but you mean I can flash a custom kernel on my rogers r800a that will have fastboot? I'm asking basically because theres a working jellybean rom it but without fastboot I can't use flashtool to flash this custom rom. I'm a bit of a noob sorry and I ought not to be with what I do for a living. lol
Furinax said:
Pardon my ignorance.... but you mean I can flash a custom kernel on my rogers r800a that will have fastboot? I'm asking basically because theres a working jellybean rom it but without fastboot I can't use flashtool to flash this custom rom. I'm a bit of a noob sorry and I ought not to be with what I do for a living. lol
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When you do test point unlock you don't get fast boot you have to use flash mode and .ft kernel and whatnot go into flash tool and press boot loader unlock it should fail and say its already unlocked
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Got it!
After much struggle.. I've got it all working and running slimbean. It's quite a huge pain in the rear to get set up so I'll post a complete guide on this thread afterward... especially considering that this thread comes up in top google search results for me when I look up "unlock bootloader R800a" and other such similar phrases.
Furinax said:
After much struggle.. I've got it all working and running slimbean. It's quite a huge pain in the rear to get set up so I'll post a complete guide on this thread afterward... especially considering that this thread comes up in top google search results for me when I look up "unlock bootloader R800a" and other such similar phrases.
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So uh... what happened to the guide?
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So uh... what happened to the guide?
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Honestly this was almost a year ago and I ended up chucking that damn phone out and getting my wife a new one. I barely remember the whole process I just remember it being about 3-4 days of me being intensely angry and frustrated lol. I do recall it involved ripping apart the phone and shorting out certain pins that are covered by the sticker under the battery, but I believe that portion was for unlocking the sim, I really can't remember. I'll see if I can dust off those brain cells and get the whole thing back and post nfo if successful.
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So uh... what happened to the guide?
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This I used as for part of the process:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM8lWE4Layc
However I don't believe this tutorial includes unlocking the bootloader. I believe sony provides a utility or something to unlock the bootloader but you're missing fastboot. I think the process involved flashing a custom kernel, not sure. I'll keep digging into my memory and post more nfo back later. Kernel was Lupus kernel I recall that much.
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Here is complete guide with bootloader unlock process explained as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187172
More links http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com - but as I recall this doesn't work for rogers branded r800a.
Hi,
I want to root my xperia z1 compact.
As i read, there are few steps that i need to take before rooting my device - backup TA partition, installing CWM, rooting the device.
Both of the CWM/TA backup require that the device will be rooted but if i will root my device without backing up the TA partition i cant go
back and reinstall the stock rom.
What is the correct order of the rooting process?
If the rooting process will get done correctly can i reinstall my stock rom back(for warranty issues)?
What are the downside for rooting - i want it mainly for Titanium backup and the Lba apps?
Thanks for any help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642081
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2634196
If you follow the guide, you should be able to root without Unlocking Bootloader (Which will cause you loosing TA if you Unlock bootloader first)
So, the best way is to Root (Without unlock bootloader) which is in the guidance, then Backup TA, then you can unlock bootloader if you like (to install ROM or other tweaks).
For myself i just need root so i kept the Bootloader lock and have a backup TA just in case.
thermalboyz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642081
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2634196
If you follow the guide, you should be able to root without Unlocking Bootloader (Which will cause you loosing TA if you Unlock bootloader first)
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If i understood correctly, i will be flashing other rom(previous version in which the root witout unlooking bootloader exploit exsist), to my device.
what will be the effects on my device? will i lose my current device configurations - apps/settings/localization/...? where this change wil be noted?
The process is very complicated and with a lot of "Brick" possibilities, will a more noob friendly version should be expected soon?
Yes you will lose your data as stated in the guides. There isn't really any brick potential, if you screw something up you should always be able to start over again.
As long as there is no other exploit, there won't be an easier method.
cohena said:
If i understood correctly, i will be flashing other rom(previous version in which the root witout unlooking bootloader exploit exsist), to my device.
what will be the effects on my device? will i lose my current device configurations - apps/settings/localization/...? where this change wil be noted?
The process is very complicated and with a lot of "Brick" possibilities, will a more noob friendly version should be expected soon?
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Hi,
I've rooted my Z1C successfully 2 weeks ago with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642081
At step 18 you had to do a factory reset... You should always create a backup. But you're are right, this guide could be more noob friendly
I wish there were some screenshots or more detailed explanations, because after I flashed the first file, I only could see a black screen, a white symbol photo of the Z1C with some japanese (?) characters and the phone doesn't do anything... Can't turn off, can't exit this screen... I was shocked until I see a home screen
D_R_Z_87 said:
[..] But you're are right, this guide could be more noob friendly
I wish there were some screenshots or more detailed explanations, because after I flashed the first file, I only could see a black screen, a white symbol photo of the Z1C with some japanese (?) characters and the phone doesn't do anything... Can't turn off, can't exit this screen... I was shocked until I see a home screen
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If you have some concrete tips I'll be happy to edit the guide
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If you have some concrete tips I'll be happy to edit the guide
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Hi,
in my situation it would have been helpful to know following things:
- is it ok to rename the downloaded .ftf files from .zip to .ftf ? --> in my case it was ok, because the windows explorer automatically saves the .ftf file as .zip (also .apk files). --> in your guide, post #8, you wrote that this is not ok.
- as i already wrote in my last post, i thougt my phone got bricked after flashing the first file...
- i got stuck at step 13, installing dualrecovery and got the message "Waiting for device to connect" - in my case everything was configured right on my computer, already checked your tips, but it doesn't work until the fifth restart of my phone... maybe you should also suggest a few restarts when the phone would not be recognized
i've rooted several samsung and google nexus devices, but this phone...
but in general, your guide is really good and helped me!
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If you have some concrete tips I'll be happy to edit the guide
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I will take few days to better understand the process and then i will follow the guide's suggestions, i will post my experience
using the guide after the hopefully successful ending....
Two questions:
how do i do a "factory reset"?
I have no data to lose, so data loss is not an issue for me....
At the hopefully successful ending of the guide which rom do i have?
I want to get back the same device experience i begen the rooting process with....
cohena said:
I will take few days to better understand the process and then i will follow the guide's suggestions, i will post my experience
using the guide after the hopefully successful ending....
Two questions:
how do i do a "factory reset"?
I have no data to lose, so data loss is not an issue for me....
At the hopefully successful ending of the guide which rom do i have?
I want to get back the same device experience i begen the rooting process with....
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Great :good:
I rooted and unlocked the bootloader right after I bought the phone so data loss was also not a problem for me.
Factory reset is located in Recovery Menu under 'Wipe data/factory reset'.
In the end you will have an unbranded UK firmware with root access. There isn't really any difference.
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In the end you will have an unbranded UK firmware with root access. There isn't really any difference.
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What do you mean there is no difference?
What are the diffrences between firmwares? what does firmware means- kernal maybe?
I need to understand if having the uk firmware will cahnge my current "device expereince" - gui, localization. preinstalled apps, or it is
just a change to the os itself without any imapct on the current user interface.
cohena said:
What do you mean there is no difference?
What are the diffrences between firmwares? what does firmware means- kernal maybe?
I need to understand if having the uk firmware will cahnge my current "device expereince" - gui, localization. preinstalled apps, or it is
just a change to the os itself without any imapct on the current user interface.
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Pretty sure there is no difference in the kernel. There might be a difference in the pre-installed apps or modem, I don't know your current rom so I can't answer that. In the end you won't notice any difference.
cohena said:
Hi,
but if i will root my device without backing up the TA partition i cant go back and reinstall the stock rom.
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Yes you can!
cohena said:
If the rooting process will get done correctly can i reinstall my stock rom back(for warranty issues)?
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Yes.
cohena said:
What are the downside for rooting
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NON!
cohena said:
what does firmware means- kernal maybe?
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Firmware is basically the OS, Gingerbread, Icecream Sandwich, Jellybean, Kitkat, and the main difference between a UK ROM and a Global ROM for example might only be one or two apps at the most.
cohena said:
I need to understand if having the uk firmware will cahnge my current "device expereince" - gui, localization. preinstalled apps, or it is
just a change to the os itself without any imapct on the current user interface.
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Sony's UI looks the same on an ROM (that is the same Firmware), and if you need to flash a new ROM to root then chances are you will loose whatever you haven't backed up.
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Pretty sure there is no difference in the kernel. There might be a difference in the pre-installed apps or modem, I don't know your current rom so I can't answer that. In the end you won't notice any difference.
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Thanks for your help so far...
The preinstall apps does not concern me - most of them i will remove anyway...
The modem part sounds problematic....
My build is 14.2.A.1.114, where can i found the rom/modem version data?
cohena said:
Thanks for your help so far...
The preinstall apps does not concern me - most of them i will remove anyway...
The modem part sounds problematic....
My build is 14.2.A.1.114, where can i found the rom/modem version data?
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You don't need to care about that... Just follow the guide you won't notice anything different.
If you are scared so much you could create a ftf of your stock rom (there are guides on the forum).
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You don't need to care about that... Just follow the guide you won't notice anything different.
If you are scared so much you could create a ftf of your stock rom (there are guides on the forum).
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Let summerize the procedure so far :
1. I will create a ftf image of my stock rom using the guide that i found, here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35910775
in the "How to backup your Sony Ericsson Xperia firmware using Update Service and the FlashTool" video.
In that guide the end result is a ftf file and the root guide asks for zip file, how can i get the zip file from the ftf one?
2. I will root my xz1c as the guide suggests here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642081
3.ABOUT THAT I AM NOT TOO SURE : on step 19 on sub step 1, i will instal my device ftf instead of the uk one and continue
with the rest of the other 2 sub steps.
Am i correct?
If i am flashing back my device rom or the uk rom at the end of the procedure and both roms are unrooted, how come the device is rooted?
After rooting the device how can i unroot or reroot if needed - i will have to go all the way again?
No.. I meant that you can create a ftf of your stock rom if something would be wrong with the UK one you could flash your old one.
But this won't even happen because the ROMs are almost the same! I don't understand what you are scared about.
There are people from many countries using this UK firmware and no one complained yet.
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No.. I meant that you can create a ftf of your stock rom if something would be wrong with the UK one you could flash your old one.
But this won't even happen because the ROMs are almost the same! I don't understand what you are scared about.
There are people from many countries using this UK firmware and no one complained yet.
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Ok, so no going back....
After having my device rooted with the uk rom, how cam i localize(keyboard, lang, cell operators, etc....),
the device to my country?
And again with the logical question - if at the end of the process i am flashing an unrooted rom that i flashed at
the beginning of the guide, how can the device be rooted?
I have just been notified that my device is going to get updated to Android ver 4.4.2(KitKat) today/tomrrow, does it changes anything regarding the root procedure?
cohena said:
Ok, so no going back....
After having my device rooted with the uk rom, how cam i localize(keyboard, lang, cell operators, etc....),
the device to my country?
And again with the logical question - if at the end of the process i am flashing an unrooted rom that i flashed at
the beginning of the guide, how can the device be rooted?
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You just select your language in android, like you normally do
UK firmware does not mean there is only english. There are still all languages available.
In the end you are flashing a zip file (step 19.1), that zip file has root installed.
I am working on updating the guide for KitKat.
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You just select your language in android, like you normally do
UK firmware does not mean there is only english. There are still all languages available.
In the end you are flashing a zip file (step 19.1), that zip file has root installed.
I am working on updating the guide for KitKat.
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You right!
We need root our lovely Z1c device...
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I am working on updating the guide for KitKat.
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Ok, so Should i upgrade to kit kat or wait for the root guide?