Hey guys,
I am looking for a micro-usb y-cable, not as you might thought one of these:
micro usb--> 2 usb slots as you find tons of it in the internet (sorry im still not allowed to use outside links for a picture )
It should be a cable where you get 2 micro usb-slots at the end.
I dont want to charge faster with it, my idea was to connect a mhl adapter and a usb otg cable at the same time. If someone knows a place where to get this cable is it possible to implement my idea?
EDIT: Oh sorry, I had the wrong tab open so i posted it in the wrong thread. I apologize for it and would like to see it deleted or to get it moved in the "Accessories Thread". Or is it possible to delete it myslef?
EDIT 2: thanks.
i would also like to know this, any info?
Interested as well
I bought this
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I don't think you can have both USB connectivity and HDMI connectivity (through MHL adapter) at the same time. It is an either / or thing. The microUSB port can be either a USB host, a USB slave, or video out through MHL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1092163.html
David
I searched in the sgs2 forum and didn't find that thread lol but I wonder what would happen on the note if we connected both mhl and otg, which, if any, would work.
OK guys, about to order a livedock but wanted to quickly check if there was any other cables available to enable me to charge my phone while using the OTG function.. Seems the whole mobile community is looking for this.. Samsung galaxy S2 users are even worse off because they can't use Hdmi at the same time as OTG! I've looked all over but seems Sony Ericsson is the only company to have made a charge while using otg dock /cable any other ideas from you smart folk? Before I splash out on a livedock??
Kiwi
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meh.. after quite a bit more googling I have come to the conclusion that the Livedock is infact the only way to charge the phone while using USB OTG.. I can't quite believe that there isn't simply a Y cable to do this.. (but I havn't been able to find one anywhere)
I have just ordered 2 livedocks from Ebay.. can never have too many right (well.. one for the tv and one for the bedroom)
The plan is to be able to have the phone plugged into the TV HDMI and a self powered USB hub (logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, Game controller + USB hard Drive\thumb drives for movies\music) and also charge the bad boy all at the same time the one next the bed is just for charging and perhaps a USB keyboard for those late night emails. (yea I could use Bluetooth, but these are still expensive and the extra hassle of pairing keyboards and mice to the phone is un-necesary when SE have given us good old fasioned OTG)
still interested if anyone finds out a different way.. I might pull one of mine apart and see if I can reverse engineere to make a simple Y split cable..
Kiwi
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In the samsung galaxy s2 this is not an electrical but a software issue. As an experiment turn off your phone. Connect a usb Y cable to a power source and to the phone via the OTG adaptor. Hey presto, it charges the phone through the otg connector.if you now connect a usb device to the other connector on the Y the phone wiill not see it. Likewise if you connect the usb device and the power THEN connect the cable to the phone it will see the device but will not charge. Both variations with the same bit of dumb cable and the same devices on the same connectors. Something in the usb / charging control software must be blocking both otg and charging from working concurrently.
Hey folks, im crossposting this, as i believe it didnt get the attention it'd have had i posted this in the accessories forum in the first place
http://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=30249692
dennisfisch said:
Hey there, i have tried gathering information about this subject and it seems all threads always lead to this announcement:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/06/29/galaxy-s-iii-new-mhl-connector-also-enables-usb-on-go/
Short: Samsung have changed to an 11 Pin-out to enable USB OTG and MHL Hdmi out at the same time. I purchased an original HDTV Adapter (EPL-3FHUBEGSTD) which as far as i can reliably count indeed has about 11 connectors inside the USB connector that goes into the phone.
Now, i can get HDMI out just fine, but ONLY when i also connect the MHL adapter to a power source (a PC USB Port will do fine), however i have also read, that the phone is able to power the MHL adapter itself but obviously would not be charged then (no surprises there). This does not work however.
Further, connecting a USB OTG cable to the micro usb port on the MHL adapter does nothing. No notification and no devices connecting. No power either, since the LED on my USB Hub does not light up as it should. Connecting any devices to the hub does nothing to change that situation. If i leave out the MHL adapter and connect the USB OTG cable directly to the phone, everything works perfectly. I have tried this with 2 different OTG cables so they are not the problem.
This is an original genuine HDTV Adapter for our phones, which according to that post should be working fine with USB OTG.
AFAIK, this topic --does-- come up more frequently now as i can find a few more discussions about it, albeit none really helpful:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-of-11-pin-mhl-connector-in-samsung-galaxy-s3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743128
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803079
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link#11-pin_MHL-USB_Connector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
That wiki entry is the most interesting link as it definitely states that using MHL and USB OTG simultaneously is possible and is also the reason why the 5 pin layout was changed to an 11 Pin layout.
Looking forward to reading your replies!
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Still waiting for USB OTG and MHL at same time. And while I'm thinking about it, I want it all in a dock compatible with my seidio active case. How's that for wishful thinking?
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nightwinn said:
Still waiting for USB OTG and MHL at same time. And while I'm thinking about it, I want it all in a dock compatible with my seidio active case. How's that for wishful thinking?
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I don't see why you would feel the need to ridicule me for bringing up this thread. it's not wishful thinking, seeing as even the wikipedia entry on MHL clearly states it should be possible. There is also a blog entry on the exact same topic and even the movement to boycott samsung accessories have stopped because of this: http://www.galaxymhl.com/
I don't really understand why people aren't looking into this more.
I'm not ridiculing you. I want the same thing. What I said was my legitimate wish list. I haven't bought the mhl adapter because I'm holding out for an all in one solution. I'm still waiting on Samsung to give us a product that does mhl and otg simultaneously.
nightwinn said:
I'm not ridiculing you. I want the same thing. What I said was my legitimate wish list. I haven't bought the mhl adapter because I'm holding out for an all in one solution. I'm still waiting on Samsung to give us a product that does mhl and otg simultaneously.
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I'm sorry, i must have gotten that wrong. I find it very confusing Samsung do no release enough information on this in order to make it work. Neither the phone documentation, nor the official 11-Pin HDTV Adapter manual mention this in any way.
I'm waiting also for a dock with MHL+USB OTG at the same time by Samsung, I dont understand why the official MHL adapter does not support this already but I've been searching and I have not found yet any example of both working together. It clearly seems that the MHL 11 pins cable we can buy right now does not support this since nobody has tested it succesfully but what I don't know is if that is related to Hardware or it also has something to do with software. I read a couple of weeks ago that Google was thinking about using the phone as a PC via docking, I think the idea comes from Motorola? So maybe the availability of both connections at the same time is also related with android, who knows, maybe in JB it will be possible...Has somebody tested MHL+USB OTG in JB with the official adapter?
Tularis said:
I'm waiting also for a dock with MHL+USB OTG at the same time by Samsung, I dont understand why the official MHL adapter does not support this already but I've been searching and I have not found yet any example of both working together. It clearly seems that the MHL 11 pins cable we can buy right now does not support this since nobody has tested it succesfully but what I don't know is if that is related to Hardware or it also has something to do with software. I read a couple of weeks ago that Google was thinking about using the phone as a PC via docking, I think the idea comes from Motorola? So maybe the availability of both connections at the same time is also related with android, who knows, maybe in JB it will be possible...Has somebody tested MHL+USB OTG in JB with the official adapter?
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As soon as i get home, i will try flashing this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695562
It comes with the latest stock kernel and appearently won't boot with anything else so Samsung must have made some changes to it. In a few hours time I'll be back with information on how that worked out.
I can confirm it NOT working on Jelly Bean. The MHL adapter does provide video HDMI output, but only as long as it is plugged into an external power source. When connecting an OTG usb cable, there is no reaction at all. There has to be some way of getting the phone to power the HDMI adapter. Do any of you folks have a good link to a kernel dev who can have a look into this? There has to be a MHL modul for the USB driver. Ghokanmoral probably has more insight into this...
Summary: USB OTG and MHL work fine separately, but not simultanously on JB using a standard genuine Samsung EPL-3FHUBEGSTD adaptor.
dennisfisch said:
I can confirm it NOT working on Jelly Bean. The MHL adapter does provide video HDMI output, but only as long as it is plugged into an external power source. When connecting an OTG usb cable, there is no reaction at all. There has to be some way of getting the phone to power the HDMI adapter. Do any of you folks have a good link to a kernel dev who can have a look into this? There has to be a MHL modul for the USB driver. Ghokanmoral probably has more insight into this...
Summary: USB OTG and MHL work fine separately, but not simultanously on JB using a standard genuine Samsung EPL-3FHUBEGSTD adaptor.
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Thank you for trying, well I dont know what to think now...very bad samsung fot not giving information about it...
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I have already contacted Ghokanmoral on this and am hoping to gain new insight into this as he is a very active kernel dev.
I'm also crosslinking another thread on this subject: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30469240
The final result of this is that USB OTG work with the Samsung dock, but not otherwise...and that is why they changed the pins to 11. For the dock to allow for OTG at the same time as HDMI out. Does everyone agree?
ZenInsight said:
The final result of this is that USB OTG work with the Samsung dock, but not otherwise...and that is why they changed the pins to 11. For the dock to allow for OTG at the same time as HDMI out. Does everyone agree?
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I don't really know how this is accomplished with the dock, but if it works with the dock, I have to think that the same technique could be used to make it work with other adapters, too. If it's a matter of putting a voltage or a resistance across two pins, that would not be a big deal to do.
It was figured out in the thread that this was split off of.
we already found the resistor value to do it, the wiring.. everything.
Anyone try...
Anyone try a usb Y cable which will inject power over a USB and still allow for a separate device to be attached? I would post a link but i'm noob here. You can find it as "UTStarcom USB Adapter Y Cable"
The HDMI part of the split HAS to be powered...but the USB OTG does not. So...if there was such thing as an 11 pin micro usb Y splitter, then the OTG side would work while the powered MHL adapter was on. Essentially this is what the dock does.
Is it possible to create an 11 pin Y splitter? Someone needs to get one of those docks and tear it apart to see how the leads are split...lol
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The HDMI part of the split HAS to be powered...but the USB OTG does not. So...if there was such thing as an 11 pin micro usb Y splitter, then the OTG side would work while the powered MHL adapter was on. Essentially this is what the dock does.
Is it possible to create an 11 pin Y splitter? Someone needs to get one of those docks and tear it apart to see how the leads are split...lol
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You can also power the dock with a laptop dock from motorola: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33825819
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It was figured out in the thread that this was split off of.
we already found the resistor value to do it, the wiring.. everything.
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Can we have a link?
surferpr said:
Can we have a link?
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I think it's this one (at least the potential resistor values are on page 3 or 4)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811435
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hi guys. i was able to make usb otg and mhl work together just like smart dock.
full description is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142357
Now that Ill have a S3, Just was wondering, I saw the adapter I need for USB. But can this work with the HDMI at the same time? Would be neat at home to have my dock, using the hdmi adapter on it, then plug the usb otg to that.
Please search man, it has been asked hundred times. Look at all the topics here...
No it is not possible..
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I have a regular usb otg cable which I have always used with my phone for things like my xbox one controller. However I have always thought that I wasn't going to be able to power my M8 while using the controller. I learned that a powered otg cable would only power the controller and not my phone. I was wondering, is there any sort of miracle otg cable that lets you power your device while using usb device? If not then is there maybe a custom kernel that I would be able to install that would be able to do this? Any help would be appreciated.
Does anybody have any ideas how I could pull this off???
I'm also scouring the internet for a solution. Can't believe they're aren't many more m8 owners not posting about this issue