Alternative to dock for OTG and charging? - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

OK guys, about to order a livedock but wanted to quickly check if there was any other cables available to enable me to charge my phone while using the OTG function.. Seems the whole mobile community is looking for this.. Samsung galaxy S2 users are even worse off because they can't use Hdmi at the same time as OTG! I've looked all over but seems Sony Ericsson is the only company to have made a charge while using otg dock /cable any other ideas from you smart folk? Before I splash out on a livedock??
Kiwi
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meh.. after quite a bit more googling I have come to the conclusion that the Livedock is infact the only way to charge the phone while using USB OTG.. I can't quite believe that there isn't simply a Y cable to do this.. (but I havn't been able to find one anywhere)
I have just ordered 2 livedocks from Ebay.. can never have too many right (well.. one for the tv and one for the bedroom)
The plan is to be able to have the phone plugged into the TV HDMI and a self powered USB hub (logitech wireless keyboard and mouse, Game controller + USB hard Drive\thumb drives for movies\music) and also charge the bad boy all at the same time the one next the bed is just for charging and perhaps a USB keyboard for those late night emails. (yea I could use Bluetooth, but these are still expensive and the extra hassle of pairing keyboards and mice to the phone is un-necesary when SE have given us good old fasioned OTG)
still interested if anyone finds out a different way.. I might pull one of mine apart and see if I can reverse engineere to make a simple Y split cable..
Kiwi
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In the samsung galaxy s2 this is not an electrical but a software issue. As an experiment turn off your phone. Connect a usb Y cable to a power source and to the phone via the OTG adaptor. Hey presto, it charges the phone through the otg connector.if you now connect a usb device to the other connector on the Y the phone wiill not see it. Likewise if you connect the usb device and the power THEN connect the cable to the phone it will see the device but will not charge. Both variations with the same bit of dumb cable and the same devices on the same connectors. Something in the usb / charging control software must be blocking both otg and charging from working concurrently.

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G - NEXUS Micro USB Y Cable - Exists??

Anyone know if a MICRO USB to FEMALE USB cables are available? I posted a link below of what Im talking about but it is a MINI USB to female (example)
I'm trying to hook up a keyboard and a mouse to my galaxy nexus so im looking for a splitter that has 2 FEMALE usb ends
http://www.staples.com/Staples-4-Po...:Cables_Hubs_Adapters_&_Switches:715440:36302
I was wondering the same thing. I was thinking of making my own dock and having this apart of it would be pretty sweet.
i know im trying to find something like that. I was able to use an OTG Host Cable and i plugged my logitech wireless transmitter to it for my mouse and it worked on my Nexus it was sweet so i started thinking what if I can find a cable with 2 female ends so I can hook up a transmitter for a keyboard and one for the mouse.
Very interesting!!!
Motorola makes a micro USB to female USB. They sell it as an accessory to the Zoom. Use that with a USB hub.
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You can find micro usb to mini usb adapters on ebay. ($0.99)
They are mini usb (female) to micro usb (male).
Connect them to your mini usb cables/devices and make them
micro usb cables/devices
Look for OTG (on the go) cables, like these:
http://shop.mobileweb.ebay.com/sear...bdacc?kw=USB+otg+galaxy+nexus&x=0&y=0&cmd=SKW
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I am typing this on my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard. It is a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. I use it for my theater PC/seedbox/home server.
I paired it to my GNex and everything works great, mouse and keyboard!
It is a little expensive, but no wires, and its a gorgeous piece of hardware.
http://mobile.logitech.com/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192
Also it will leave the port open on the phone, so you can connect to your
TV. Really looking forward to Ubuntu's news today!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus - Verizon 4G LTE.
Dakota0206 said:
I am typing this on my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard. It is a bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. I use it for my theater PC/seedbox/home server.
I paired it to my GNex and everything works great, mouse and keyboard!
It is a little expensive, but no wires, and its a gorgeous piece of hardware.
http://mobile.logitech.com/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192
Also it will leave the port open on the phone, so you can connect to your
TV. Really looking forward to Ubuntu's news today!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus - Verizon 4G LTE.
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Thanks for that it looks really good and you're right I would still have an open port so i'll probably use an MHL adaptor that can charge at the same time.
cbay said:
You can find micro usb to mini usb adapters on ebay. ($0.99)
They are mini usb (female) to micro usb (male).
Connect them to your mini usb cables/devices and make them
micro usb cables/devices
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Thats looks good. now I just gotta find a mini usb to full usb in a Y cable with two full usb ends so I can hook up usb devices to it.
or a Y cable that has two mini usb female ends and the other one would be male mini usb
I'd second the USB hub idea. I've got a small 4-port hub with a memory card reader built in that I connect via an OTG cable. The side benefit is that it's a powered hub so I can connect an external battery or AC adapter to it so USB devices will pull power from it instead of the phone. It's really not much bulkier than some weird multi-headed cable solution and when I only need one device (which is most of the time) the compact OTG cable works fine.
FYI, I don't think you can split the USB to support HDMI on one side and USB on the other, to my knowledge the chip in the phone only supports one at a time. Once HDMI is enabled you need to look at Bluetooth devices.
yea makes sense for the hub. I was just trying to avoid using bluetooth because Im sure the HDMI would draw power to push to screen but then again it would be plugged into the side for AC. I think that bluetooth keyboard mentioned earlier sounds like a good idea. It's got a mouse pad and keyboard all in one.
mrgq1111 said:
yea makes sense for the hub. I was just trying to avoid using bluetooth because Im sure the HDMI would draw power to push to screen but then again it would be plugged into the side for AC. I think that bluetooth keyboard mentioned earlier sounds like a good idea. It's got a mouse pad and keyboard all in one.
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It actually works really well. I highly recommend it.
Also like someone said I don't think it would be possible to push HD video a keyboard and a mouse all through a hub.
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MHL + OTG possible?

As in title, is it possible to use MHL with OTG?
I mean like that : Phone->MHL->OTG, MHL need power to work from what I know, so what about mircoUSB Y cable-> MHL + OTG?
Negative friend. It does not work. Even if you have the connecters, the micro USB can only act as one or the the other at a time.
Thats the ONLY reason I bought an apple magic trackpad (the only bluetooth peripheral with pinch to zoom, yada yada), to control gnex when its pushing mhl to tv. See living digitally for a demo.
But does the device charge, when connected to MHL adapter then?
Yes, the MHL adapter needs to be plugged into a microUSB to function, it does power the phone. And if you are only pushing HDMI out, it should charge.
I have a fast charge ROM&kernel, so it will charge even if using hdmi, bluetooth, dowloading torrents....
Thank you, I just asked, as I will soon get the device, for now I only ordered the extended battery, and desktop dock. Not really want to use the usb port too much, also I dont know if I will need hdmi, btw, the hdmi dock have a usb port, but the dock not mirror the screen, only good for videos, and photos, so maybe it can use otg? I'm not sure, if the usb port only for charging, but again, it not use hdmi all the time, also I guess no good for games, mhl sucks guys, why couldnt they use separate hdmi, like motorola?
Not 100% sure, but I think the USB in the dock is only for charging, check out the reviews.
As for single port, I believe the Gnex, being google's vision for the fututre, is ahead of its time. Its supposed to be all wireless connections soon. Google Smart TV, bluetooth 3 & 4, WiDi, NFC.... see the trend. I'm suprised there are fewer bluetooth peripherals.
I would look at the next motorola phones to see where the future is going...

[Q] USB-OTG & Charging Cable in One

Hi is it possible to sold an USB-OTG and Charging Cable in one, because OTG is draining the Battery so fast
Greeds
sPeEdX100
Sorry can't be done.
It is possible with Livedock. OTG and charging in the same time, so I belive there is chance for SGSIII too.
It is possible with a diy cable. I made mine from and old micro usb to usb A data cable (the one you use to connect a phone to pc), a hardware switch i scavenged from an old radio and a usb extender cable (you only need the part that has the female port to stick other devices in like flash drives. i use the switch to toggle from usb OTG mode and standard data/charging mode to connect to pc. I think you can't charge and use usb OTG simultaneously. for that you could wait for a wireless charging mod.
I believe this might do the trick (have a look at he video as well).
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/mobile-fun-connection-kit-for-samsung-galaxy-s3-p35462.htm
Think amazon has the S2 "version" for a bit cheaper...
jasweb said:
I believe this might do the trick (have a look at he video as well).
Think amazon has the S2 "version" for a bit cheaper...
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That looks very interesting.....I wonder if a USB sound card would possibly work in there?
the_buzz_man
Hey total destroyer I would really appreciate if you could tell me how exactly you made that diy cable. It is very important for something I am doibg
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Tips and Tricks USB OTG Cable for S3 ( USB Connector )

I bought a original Samsung USB OTG Cable for my Samsung Galaxy S3 from online store ( shopsection.com ) , can anyone post tips and tricks about it.
according to my testing, Most of all USB devices can access
1- Amazing cable, it works perfect in Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note
2- Connect pendrive 2GB, 4GB, 8Gb, 16GB and access files , documents, songs, movies instant from your S3
3- Like to draw anything without C-Pen stylus? connect USB mouse and draw anything u want as like in computer mouse cursor
4- feeling touch to type on touch screen? connect USB keyboard via OTG cable and start typing SMS and Emails.
5- Does your friends running out of battery ?, connect their mobile with their usb data cable to OTG cable and get charged
6- Also if your friend give access for "Mass storage" access his files from his mobile phone
7- want to take instant printout from your S 3, connect printer USB to OTG cable and give a shot
Article from other websites about OTG cable,
- Remote Access your mobile using Data modem
- support PS3 controller
also if anyone has more tips and tricks for this OTG cable, kindly post it. so thrilled to enjoy its benefits.
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
Not as amazing as the adapter Samsung will be releasing whenever they can be bothered because it will use the full 11 pins and allow MHL and other accessories simultaneously, but like always they take so long releasing accessories people just get pissed off while they waiting.
Yes Micheal 100% acceptable. only advantage for OTG cable was they launched long back after few months from Galaxy SII. But same cable we are using it for Galaxy Note and Galaxy SIII. But we are really worried for Flip Cover launch for SIII. it took nearly 2 weeks time from SIII mobile launch.
There are plenty of local manufacturers releasing case and covers and even OTG cable. only this guy has the original samsung OTG cable in India shopsection.com/item/USB_Host_OTG_Cable_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S_3 for sale with offer price.
Michael_P said:
Not as amazing as the adapter Samsung will be releasing whenever they can be bothered because it will use the full 11 pins and allow MHL and other accessories simultaneously, but like always they take so long releasing accessories people just get pissed off while they waiting.
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Another friend from Singapore told me, OTG cable used to connect medical equipment. not sure what it is.
is it possible to connect usb device to OTG and can we use hdmi port to display mobile screen USB host to TV ??? did anyone tried this?
fbloise said:
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
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ananmetro said:
Another friend from Singapore told me, OTG cable used to connect medical equipment. not sure what it is.
is it possible to connect usb device to OTG and can we use hdmi port to display mobile screen USB host to TV ??? did anyone tried this?
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You need MHL cable to connect HDMI to Tv and you can't connect over Mass Storage mode to Tv, Car etc because Samsung in their wisdom decided not to include it, and I know iPhone has things like blood pressure and heart rate monitors you can connect but never heard of it on Android, but it's possible to create a driver to connect pretty much anything with a USB port to Android.
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
ananmetro said:
I bought a original Samsung USB OTG Cable for my Samsung Galaxy S3 from online store ( shopsection.com ) , can anyone post tips and tricks about it.
according to my testing, Most of all USB devices can access
1- Amazing cable, it works perfect in Galaxy S II, Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note
2- Connect pendrive 2GB, 4GB, 8Gb, 16GB and access files , documents, songs, movies instant from your S3
3- Like to draw anything without C-Pen stylus? connect USB mouse and draw anything u want as like in computer mouse cursor
4- feeling touch to type on touch screen? connect USB keyboard via OTG cable and start typing SMS and Emails.
5- Does your friends running out of battery ?, connect their mobile with their usb data cable to OTG cable and get charged
6- Also if your friend give access for "Mass storage" access his files from his mobile phone
7- want to take instant printout from your S 3, connect printer USB to OTG cable and give a shot
Article from other websites about OTG cable,
- Remote Access your mobile using Data modem
- support PS3 controller
also if anyone has more tips and tricks for this OTG cable, kindly post it. so thrilled to enjoy its benefits.
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I myself tested most of features and its working as i said. Not sure what is problem with your flashdrive, but mine everything works. format your memory card and test it again.
bought it from https://www.shopsection.com/item/USB_Host_OTG_Cable_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S_3
Its original samsung accessories and you get 6 months warranty. so you can claim if any issues after 2 months. I believe only these guys selling Samsung S3 original products like flip cover and stylus pen in India
https://www.shopsection.com/item/Flip_Cover_for_Samsung_Galaxy_S3_i9300_(Blue)
moyud said:
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
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Um, how about these tips:
Super cool video JoyStick connectivity is really great....
NZtechfreak said:
Um, how about these tips:
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Can you buy any brand USB OTG cable and they will work?
alfy! said:
Can you buy any brand USB OTG cable and they will work?
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Wow 2nd post. Read much? :thumbdown:
fbloise said:
I heard also Xbox 360 wired remotes work as well
I have a chinese non-oem OTG cable and works fine with pretty much every USB devide I have (usb memories, keyboard, mouse). I havent tried game remotes or a printer.
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Does anybody know if arduino is doing anything with this? It would be awesome if you could edit and upload arduino sketches using an android phone and an otg cable.
moyud said:
Bought this otg cable for cheaper rate in local market, it worked for 2 months but i could not connect my Sony Pendrive 8GB. any application needed to upgrade on my Note to support 8gb? can your post me the link whr u purchased samsung otg cable, how long u hv been using it? is that original with warranty?
all those tips tested by you?
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The first thing that you need to check is how your thumb drive is formatted. I haven't tried a thumb drive on my SIII yet but on Atrixs I've evaluated they could only interface with FAT thumb drives. NTFS wouldn't work. You should also try a different model of thumb drive, I don't know about the power requirements but it might just be too high.
USB On The Go cable awareness not upto the level. Samsung must advertise about their accessories too as like Nokia. OTG cable is really useful to access files instant. but i wonder why its only suitable for very few models and since Galaxy Y is also has update android firmware.
anybody tried OTG cable other than S III?
Anyone know if a 32GB flash drive would work with otg cable?
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rvpals said:
Anyone know if a 32GB flash drive would work with otg cable?
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Yes.
Did anyone get external usb hard drive to work with otg cable on the same three. I have tried but it does not work for me, both 2.5&3.5
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rvpals said:
Did anyone get external usb hard drive to work with otg cable on the same three. I have tried but it does not work for me, both 2.5&3.5
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I think the external hard drives will only work if you use a usb port multiplier with a external power source. Dont quote me on that though!
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Miggless said:
I think the external hard drives will only work if you use a usb port multiplier with a external power source. Dont quote me on that though!
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I have actually try plugin my external hard drive with 2 headed USB cable, one connects to the USB OTG cable, one end connects to a USB port for power, and it still doesn't work.
It would be nice if it would work though.

USB OTG cable with charging - is that possible?

While researching ability to use USB DAC while charging the phone in the car I found this video. The guy clearly says that tablet is charging while accessing all those accessories via USB OTG. Similar cables are found on ebay, called "USB OTG with power".
The big question is: would the Galaxy S3 actually charge while using USB DAC at the same time? It should be possible, but I don't have the phone yet (still considering it), nor do I have the cable, nor a USB DAC In theory it should be the same with any accessory - can someone actually confirm either way, whether phone can or can't charge in USB OTG mode with similar cable? This video shows similar setup on Galaxy S (only it's normal OTG cable, USB hub, usb Y-cable and card reader) and it's definitely charging while mounting USB devices! Will S3 do the same?
I fear that upgrading from Galaxy S with voodoo control of Wolfson chip to north-American S3 with worse audio path might not suit me if there's no way to power the phone and use external DAC at the same time in the car... I hope there is a way... I appreciate any advice and opinions.
It's a first time I see such cable...All I read was people saying it's impossible in the first place. Well, hopefully in 2 weeks I'll be able answer your question
midirt said:
While researching ability to use USB DAC while charging the phone in the car I found this video. The guy clearly says that tablet is charging while accessing all those accessories via USB OTG. Similar cables are found on ebay, called "USB OTG with power".
The big question is: would the Galaxy S3 actually charge while using USB DAC at the same time? It should be possible, but I don't have the phone yet (still considering it), nor do I have the cable, nor a USB DAC In theory it should be the same with any accessory - can someone actually confirm either way, whether phone can or can't charge in USB OTG mode with similar cable? This video shows similar setup on Galaxy S (only it's normal OTG cable, USB hub, usb Y-cable and card reader) and it's definitely charging while mounting USB devices! Will S3 do the same?
I fear that upgrading from Galaxy S with voodoo control of Wolfson chip to north-American S3 with worse audio path might not suit me if there's no way to power the phone and use external DAC at the same time in the car... I hope there is a way... I appreciate any advice and opinions.
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HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
sonic_boom said:
HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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Looks like it's possible on some devices, but not with Galaxy and Nexus family... But it would be great if you can confirm that, so let me know if you can try it. Thanks.
Finally got the cable.
The result - nope, doesn't charge
Maybe the "Allshare hub" could do what your asking for?
sonic_boom said:
HI. I Got it working on SONY XPERIA S now i will play with GALAXY SII AND SIII , check my siganture and website --> follow me i hope i can help
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Sonic, any luck with your friends phone? Really looking foward to your results :fingers-crossed:
Do you have part #s for the variable resistors in your samsung post or at least where you got them from? I would be willing to try some things out if I could find the right pieces. What I really want to get my hands on is the MHL adapter that was shown off with that spider laptop at IFA a couple weeks ago..
SUCCESS!!! I can confirm that this USB OTG cable (http://ebayitem.com/190710044655) DOES CHARGE MY GALAXY S3! I plugged in USB cardreader with SD card into the phone through this cable (it lit up and card is fully readable), then plugged USB cable end into PC and phone showed a charging icon! Moreover, after waiting for 5 min. with screen off (cardreader still glowing blue and working) battery has gone up from %72 to %75 (and while I was writing this, to 78%), so it is indeed charging! Yay! It probably won't get up in the car, where just phone alone is "not discharging" at best from the car adapter, but at least it should allow me to listen to music with quality DAC and use navigation without (or with minimal) discharging.
I have not tested it with USB DAC that I intend to use for my car (Behringer UCA222), because I have to go out and buy it. Hopefully it works. Anyway, this cable definitely works with simultaneously charging my north-american Samsung Galaxy S3 (from Bell Canada) while powering USB cardreader!
Somebody else has mentioned that another cable (http://ebayitem.com/120980364117) also worked in his Galaxy S2.
I bought Behringer UCA222 USB DAC and tested it in my car with the USB OTG cable with power that I mentioned. It works great! And the phone is indicating a charge. Sometimes when first playing music after plugging the device it sounds like fast forward for a few seconds (I guess clock rate mismatch or something similar), but after the presumably clock is locked it plays perfectly fine.
midirt said:
SUCCESS!!! ...
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That is outstanding..gonna order one of these guys right now.
Here is a better link for all the ebay listings. Be aware of the differences, MicroUSB adapters would allow you to use your existing charge cable to plug into it while the standard USB would require you to be very close to the charger or have a USB A-A cable to attach to a power source.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...Host+OTG+Cable+++USB+power&_sacat=0&_from=R40
Jeremy.Stewart85 said:
That is outstanding..gonna order one of these guys right now.
Here is a better link for all the ebay listings. Be aware of the differences, MicroUSB adapters would allow you to use your existing charge cable to plug into it while the standard USB would require you to be very close to the charger or have a USB A-A cable to attach to a power source.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...Host+OTG+Cable+++USB+power&_sacat=0&_from=R40
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The problem is that apparently not all of those cable work in terms of charging the phone. People say mostly that it doesn't work. The only guy mentioned success is with the cable I bought, but he then confirmed it with another, more convenient cable. I have the one that needs a USB extension cable to reach the charger, but it's about a buck on ebay, so no problem there. But not all cables work this way: most reportedly will allow you to power USB accessories but not charge the phone.
I found that this configuration works for charging while in USB HOST mode:
S3 -> standard otg cable -> Powered USB2.0 HUB -> devices (keyboard, usb dac, usb hdd...)
The only catch is that the hub must be powered before you plug in the phone or the phone will try to power the hub and will never enter charging mode. I'm using this setup in my car and it works perfectly. As long as I start the car before plugging the phone, we are good to go.
I only confirmed this works with AOKP JB builds. No idea about other roms/kernels. Hopefully this helps someone.
midirt said:
The problem is that apparently not all of those cable work in terms of charging the phone. People say mostly that it doesn't work. The only guy mentioned success is with the cable I bought, but he then confirmed it with another, more convenient cable. I have the one that needs a USB extension cable to reach the charger, but it's about a buck on ebay, so no problem there. But not all cables work this way: most reportedly will allow you to power USB accessories but not charge the phone.
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I got mine in the mail today (ordered 10/16) and tried it out as soon as I could. I can confirm it charges and allows for OTG at the same time. This is the auction I bought from: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251127542280&ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:3160
Hello y'all. I'd like to ask your attention to this thread, especially but not limited to sonicboom and others, I really could use some help.

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