[Q] whats the different between external SD card and SD card. - Samsung Galaxy W I8150

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haziqfikri said:
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Sd card = is the memory you insert to you phone
External sd card = called the usb storage, a built in memory for our device.
Hope it explained what your asking.
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reddvilzz said:
Sd card = is the memory you insert to you phone
External sd card = called the usb storage, a built in memory for our device.
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I think you have it backwards! The SD Card on new phones, ie. Samsung GS3, refers to the built-in memory. If you insert a micro SD Card, it will be known as the "Ext SD Card".
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Chicago T said:
I think you have it backwards! The SD Card on new phones, ie. Samsung GS3, refers to the built-in memory. If you insert a micro SD Card, it will be known as the "Ext SD Card".
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But in wonder if you use the storage setting and tick the use internal memory the sd card and external will be swapped. I guess i'm based on that. So maybe i'm wrong. At least it is almost right
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SD card = the built in memory from your phone, but some phone have only small amount of memory so you cannot install games/apps anymore because it's already full.
Ext SD Card = have a bigger amount of memory 8gb,16gb, 32gb, 64gb that means you can install more games/apps than internal.
So, if your phone internal is full, you can use your ext sd card as internal which is bigger and it's called "swap"

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Menu > System Settings > Storage
SD card = listed as INTERNAL STORAGE. On our Wonder, this is 1.7GB in size.
External SD card = the microSD card you insert at the back of your phone. It's available in different sizes and classes. Under Storage, it is listed as SD CARD.
I hope this clears it up for you.

AFAIK
SD card= internal phone memory
ext SD card = sd card that you inserted

Just to avoid further confusion when it comes to terminology:
Memory is just like the RAM in your computer. It is where a program's commands are queued for use of the processor.
Storage is just like the hard disk in your computer. It is where the programs/apps are actually stored.
When you go to Menu > Manage Apps,
Memory can be seen only under 'Running' tab. In the case of CM9 Beta 1, it should amount to 352MB total size.
Internal Storage is under the 'Downloaded' and 'All' tab.
'On SD Card' shows you what's on your SD Card.
I hope this helps.

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Programs uninstalled after reboot

Hi!
I was looking after this issue since my holidays. My Glide just uninstalls random applications that are on SD card (external_SD) after reboot. The replication is 8 out of 10. I had almost 30 apps on the SD card (mostly games).
What I did:
-restart the launcher
-wipe/factory reset
-change microSD cards
-reformat microSD card
How can I tell apps are uninstalled?
-checked Market
-checked TiBu (Backup/restore > Uninst. filter)
As I said, different apps are uninstalled every reboot. If I again reboot my device, the app(s) previously removed will be installed and another app(s) is removed.
Temporarily, my apps are transferred on my Internal storage (2gb) and so far, no issues. This quite puzzles me for I did not encounter any issues using my microSDs in file transfers, media and etc except for this one.
May you have similar issues and have solutions for them, please share and it will be greatly appreciated.
I posted this in the subforum for this only happened on my Glide (did not see in my Captivate and Infuse with same micrSDs). If you see this as inappropriate, please leave me a message or reply, or simply report my post.
Thanks
Correct me if I am wrong but apps moved to SD actually install to the 4gb USB storage in the unit (/sdcard). Nothing goes to the external SD (/sdcard/external_sd) unless manually moved there. If you want to install a program to the SD you have to use root utilities.
Doesn't help you with your issue but you should be able to completely remove the SD card and see if you continue to have the problem.
I haven't noticed this on my wife Glide but it does happen on my Skyrocket.
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Installed adw launcher last night and haven't had a problem with the disappearing apps.
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eddiert said:
Correct me if I am wrong but apps moved to SD actually install to the 4gb USB storage in the unit (/sdcard). Nothing goes to the external SD (/sdcard/external_sd) unless manually moved there. If you want to install a program to the SD you have to use root utilities.
Doesn't help you with your issue but you should be able to completely remove the SD card and see if you continue to have the problem.
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No your wrong when you hit the button move to SD Card it actually goes to the MicroSD card. I tried hitting that button without a Microsd card and I get an error it says not External card detected or something like that. When I installed my MicroSD card it moved the apps to it.
JB
dudejb said:
No your wrong when you hit the button move to SD Card it actually goes to the MicroSD card. I tried hitting that button without a Microsd card and I get an error it says not External card detected or something like that. When I installed my MicroSD card it moved the apps to it.
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You are correct. Good to know. I verified that I have a few apps moved to SD and they do not work when the SD is removed.
However, I can not replicate the OPs original issue. I put the SD back in and the apps are launchable again. All apps remain after reboot. When the SD was swapped was it with a different brand/model. I am using an 8gb Sandisk.
I could not replic
dudejb said:
No your wrong when you hit the button move to SD Card it actually goes to the MicroSD card. I tried hitting that button without a Microsd card and I get an error it says not External card detected or something like that. When I installed my MicroSD card it moved the apps to it.
JB
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That's weird because I was able to move to SD without inserting a Micro SD card and when I move to SD, it moves them to the internal USB storage instead of the Micro SD card.
vil33 said:
That's weird because I was able to move to SD without inserting a Micro SD card and when I move to SD, it moves them to the internal USB storage instead of the Micro SD card.
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Weird how we both have different results here. I have the Rogers running Android version 2.3.5 and Kernel version 2.6.36.3
JB
responses are greatly appreciated....I also tried moving two apps on SDcard after transferring them to the internal (2GB) storage. my glide automatically removed one of them after reboot. Well it's not a concern until i ended up running out of space on my internal
I noticed this as well on some apps I just reinstalled them on the internal and will not transfer them to the SD I again. I guess some programs don't want to be transferred to SD.
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dudejb said:
Weird how we both have different results here. I have the Rogers running Android version 2.3.5 and Kernel version 2.6.36.3
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I have the exact same phone, I think you are confused. Move to SD never moves to external SD. Why else would apps like 'Apps2SD' exist then?
Apps2Sd allows you to map certain folders that are hard coded to the sd internal. For example game loft games install on the internal applicaton 2 gig partition a small installer and then Download extra content on the internal sd card. Apps2Sd allows you to map the game directory from the internal sd to your micro sd card. Similar in linux with a sym link. The Move to Sd from the Os (gingerbread). Allows you to alleviate some room from your 2 gig applications partition and move apps to the Microsd card.
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dudejb said:
Apps2Sd allows you to map certain folders that are hard coded to the sd internal. For example game loft games install on the internal applicaton 2 gig partition a small installer and then Download extra content on the internal sd card. Apps2Sd allows you to map the game directory from the internal sd to your micro sd card. Similar in linux with a sym link. The Move to Sd from the Os (gingerbread). Allows you to alleviate some room from your 2 gig applications partition and move apps to the Microsd card.
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Could it be that whether it move to internal or external SD depends on the app? None of my apps have been moved to the external microSD yet. Maybe it is because I have extra space on my internal microSD? Also when I go to Manage Apps > On SD Card, it shows the space used and remaining on the internal SD(USB storage).
vil33 said:
Could it be that whether it move to internal or external SD depends on the app? None of my apps have been moved to the external microSD yet. Maybe it is because I have extra space on my internal microSD? Also when I go to Manage Apps > On SD Card, it shows the space used and remaining on the internal SD(USB storage).
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if you are rooted, look for a folder named .android.secure on your Glide's hard drives. That folder contains apps that are moved to SD card. I see mine on /sdcard/external_sd/.android.secure
Hi, even if this thread is an old one, the same issue happened to my phone:
I can't use the internal memory to move apps because they are uninstalled every time the phone is rebooted. What is the clue?
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[Q] RE: Ext SD CARD

I realised that Galaxy W got 3 layers of memory which is phone storage, USB storage and ext sd card, and I found out that most of the apps are saved in internal storage (USB storage), but it has very limited spaces, so I would like to move all the apps to my ext sd card.
Anyone can guide me that how to do so???
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There are 3 storage options on this phone...
ROM aka Device Memory = 1GB = Where apps install to.
Internal SD aka USB Storage = 2GB = Extra space
External SD aka SD Card = upto 32gb microSD card.
So you dont need to use an external SD card until you've used up nearly 3gb of space!
Have you used 3GB already?
Vyker said:
There are 3 storage options on this phone...
ROM aka Device Memory = 1GB = Where apps install to.
Internal SD aka USB Storage = 2GB = Extra space
External SD aka SD Card = upto 32gb microSD card.
So you dont need to use an external SD card until you've used up nearly 3gb of space!
Have you used 3GB already?
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There is no installation of apps on the so-called USB Storage/Internal Storage......This is intended for data associated with apps, and storage for stuff like pics/photos/music.
There is built-in App2SD support in all Androids since Froyo, but it is not automatically invoked....you need to go to Settings/Manage Applications.
Look under Downloaded, where all the d/l Apps are listed, and tap on any app you wish to install on your SD Card, your external SD card, this is not internal so-called SD/USB Storage.
Any App that can be moved, will have a Move to SD card option.....those which are not written to enable movement, will be greyed out.
You could also get App2SD from market, which will give you a notification when an App is downloaded that it can be moved, and allows you to do this when you select the notification. It works well......IMHO. I use it and cannot fault it.
There is also another App 2 SD, which does a similar job, but has a Pro paid-for version......reports on Market that it does not support External SD, which is what we have, so avoid....IMHO
Right so still abit confused over this. Before i installed Kerza'a rom onto the phone.
Under the settings and storage and where is shows sd card, usb storage and Device memory.
On sd card it use to show my 8gb card and in the usb storage it use to show the 1.7gb that came on the phone.
After i installed kerza's rom it switched. But no matter what i do my apps still save to the smaller 1.7gb space.
Is there anything that can be done?
This means that KP's ROM switches mount points for SD's, and your Large SD Card is now considered as Internal SD.......
and no Apps can be moved to Internal, by Samsung design, they move to external SD.
arco says this will change with ICS, when and if we get it......
On the good side, your apps are now on probably faster Internal Storage (now mapped as External SD)......and you have more than enough to cater for apps IMHO. And you can probably force move other apps, maybe with Titanium Backup, or other ways, just be careful, some Apps should not be moved, so trial and error.
Even when I used DT's A2SD, on my previous, the biggest sd-sxt I used was 1GB.

SD card problems

I am having problems with my SD card. I used to have a mytouch, and I bought a Sandisk 4GB back then. When I got the S2 back in Decemeber 2011, all i did was format the micro card to work. The S2 shows that its there under Storage, but i have always have difficulties actually using it. You will see that it has some used into it. I can only reach it through USB connection and transfer file that way. However, whenever I use any programs which can be install under SD card, it will not do so.
As you will noticed below i have a problem call App 2 SD Pro, which it will only show both memories with my phone, Storage and USB, which is the same phone memory. By no means, its finding the Micro SD card. Can anyone tell me why is this? This phone is not rooted and i have only 2.3.6.
Thank you in advance.
If you look through your list of folders under /sdcard, your micro sd is the 'external_sd" folder.
Yes that is true. Is under External SD card. My question is, why are some programs, mostly all, having difficulties to find it? and can i have all for example game files, be saved onto my "external SD Card"?
What is the speed of your sd card?
class 2, 4, 6, 8 or 10?
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How would i know that? all i can see on the card is, Sandisk 2 in circle, 4GB SDHC micro. Where else can i check? which class is best?
You have a class 2. It has been my experience that when you move an app to sd card, on this phone it uses the internal "USB" storage.
So what can i do to do the opposite? Meaning, using the actual SD card instead of the internal.
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So what can i do to do the opposite? Meaning, using the actual SD card instead of the internal.
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I'm having the same issue too.... I know what you mean.... I try to back up my phone but it won't... Help please

[Q] How to move apps to SD card

Anybody can tell how to move apps to SD card ?
I am unable to move my apps from phone memory to SD card.
I have 64gb Sandisk Class 10 memory card.
I dont get any options to move them to sd card in the app manager.
I also installed app2sd application but it says my phone doesnot have a real primary source of memory or my memory source is emulated.
How do i transfer ?? I have these 2gb and 4gb games which i want to transfer to memory card.
gauravr said:
Anybody can tell how to move apps to SD card ?
I am unable to move my apps from phone memory to SD card.
I have 64gb Sandisk Class 10 memory card.
I dont get any options to move them to sd card in the app manager.
I also installed app2sd application but it says my phone doesnot have a real primary source of memory or my memory source is emulated.
How do i transfer ?? I have these 2gb and 4gb games which i want to transfer to memory card.
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Does not work will not work.
Swap your memory if you are rooted.
JellyBean does not support apps to sd.
In futere wil be possible when rom development is going on.
you can bind your gamedata folder to sd card so additional data is stored on ext sd card.
Kaiser Chief said:
Does not work will not work.
Swap your memory if you are rooted.
JellyBean does not support apps to sd.
In futere wil be possible when rom development is going on.
you can bind your gamedata folder to sd card so additional data is stored on ext sd card.
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How do I bind it? Can u guide.
samsungs default is to save apps to the sd card (internal) partition. they share it. i think that's how google has also made it from ICS on out. so there's no point really.
I have app2sd on my ns4g on jellybean so it can't be because of jellybean?
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I have app2sd on my ns4g on jellybean so it can't be because of jellybean?
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I agree - The Developer blames samsung in the disclaimer on the play store
gauravr said:
How do I bind it? Can u guide.
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Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
It works perfect for me. Now I have 9 GB free internal storage.

Which is better : Move to SD Card or leave it as it is

Hi, I would like to ask you guys... Is it much better to move my apps to SD Card ( internal ), or should I leave it as it is..?? since there are options in Settings - Device - Apps , to "Move to SD Card" ..
It's quite confusing on Android.., sometimes a SD Card, can be mean an Internal, and an external
Sorry for my bad english
84yu4j1 said:
Hi, I would like to ask you guys... Is it much better to move my apps to SD Card ( internal ), or should I leave it as it is..?? since there are options in Settings - Device - Apps , to "Move to SD Card" ..
It's quite confusing on Android.., sometimes a SD Card, can be mean an Internal, and an external
Sorry for my bad english
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In general, if an app can be moved to the SD card, I do it. Technically, they should load slower from your SD card. The internal storage should be faster. But, it's probably so small that it's not noticeable.
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In general, if an app can be moved to the SD card, I do it. Technically, they should load slower from your SD card. The internal storage should be faster. But, it's probably so small that it's not noticeable.
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I'm still confused here.., what is the phone mean by "move to SD Card" ?? , is it move to internal SD Card,, or to external SD Card..??
that concern me,, because I've only got 2 years old slow external SD Card ( class 2 ) ,,
but if what the Phone mean by Move to SD Card, is to internal SD Card,, I assuredly gonna moved there..
84yu4j1 said:
I'm still confused here.., what is the phone mean by "move to SD Card" ?? , is it move to internal SD Card,, or to external SD Card..??
that concern me,, because I've only got 2 years old slow external SD Card ( class 2 ) ,,
but if what the Phone mean by Move to SD Card, is to internal SD Card,, I assuredly gonna moved there..
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Generally it´s the internal SD where it will be moved. You can use Link2SD to move it to the external or swap the SDcards so the external will become the internal. This is what I´m doing as my new Class10 SDCard is actually faster than the build in internal one.
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Generally it´s the internal SD where it will be moved. You can use Link2SD to move it to the external or swap the SDcards so the external will become the internal. This is what I´m doing as my new Class10 SDCard is actually faster than the build in internal one.
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Any benefit if I move it to internal SD Card,, or it just the same..??
Since my external card are so old and slow, I think I just have to wait to get a better one, before I do the swap thing..
My I know what external SD Card that you use ? Brand and type..
84yu4j1 said:
Any benefit if I move it to internal SD Card,, or it just the same..??
Since my external card are so old and slow, I think I just have to wait to get a better one, before I do the swap thing..
My I know what external SD Card that you use ? Brand and type..
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As long you have enough space left on the partition where your Android is installed, I also wouldn´t move any apps as this is the fastest compared to internal or external SD cards. But for apps like Navigation with its huge maps its better to directly move them to the external SD card.
Previously I was using a Samsung Class10 SDCard but at the moment I´m using a noname Class 10 SDCard I bought on ebay. Doesn´t really matter as both perform very well though the noname is actually a bit faster.
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As long you have enough space left on the partition where your Android is installed, I also wouldn´t move any apps as this is the fastest compared to internal or external SD cards. But for apps like Navigation with its huge maps its better to directly move them to the external SD card.
Previously I was using a Samsung Class10 SDCard but at the moment I´m using a noname Class 10 SDCard I bought on ebay. Doesn´t really matter as both perform very well though the noname is actually a bit faster.
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Excellent... thank you for the explanation,,
oh and I has read about Link2SD ( the used,, how to use it, etc ),, I was though that a Swaping app to make from internal to external, but it wasn't..
And that actually pretty nice,, I think I'm gonna try that, since I don't like swaping EX to IN thing...

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