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Should I ICS yet? is it safely done yet? worth it?

i'm rocking callulins e4gt 2.9.2 ...
i mean... its good. But i (obviously) want ICS
I've tried using Rom Manager to put the ICS blend on my 4g Touch, it just hasn't worked (i'm assuming that prog is made for the google phones like nexus s.... i think this because it worked great on my nexus s). when i attempt to install, it gets aborted and i have to restore from a backup. I'm wondering if i'm just not going to the right place in clockwork recovery (team rogue, i have avoided touch because it has a brick stigma)
i rooted my nexus S inside out, custom rome out the wing wang, but the epic has proven more difficult. like... get root was cake, but everything after that has proven more complicated. thats why i want some professional opinions. is ICS worth it at this point and can i do it easily?

I personally love ICS and had issues at first. but i been using VeNuM's new rom AnaKonda that just released. So far 24 hours and im loving every minute of it and no major issues. People are saying theres bluetooth issues with the new modem tho but have not had this issue yet.
worse comes to worse just Odin back down to EL29 or something like that.

i'm thinking odin is the better way to do this when i do it.
also, has wireless hotspot functioned well for you?

questions should go in the "Q & A" thread........just saying

kevin_msu said:
i'm rocking callulins e4gt 2.9.2 ...
i mean... its good. But i (obviously) want ICS
I've tried using Rom Manager to put the ICS blend on my 4g Touch, it just hasn't worked (i'm assuming that prog is made for the google phones like nexus s.... i think this because it worked great on my nexus s). when i attempt to install, it gets aborted and i have to restore from a backup. I'm wondering if i'm just not going to the right place in clockwork recovery (team rogue, i have avoided touch because it has a brick stigma)
i rooted my nexus S inside out, custom rome out the wing wang, but the epic has proven more difficult. like... get root was cake, but everything after that has proven more complicated. thats why i want some professional opinions. is ICS worth it at this point and can i do it easily?
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You do know that Rom Manager can be a brick stigma as well.. I know you may want to get ICS but if you are using Rom Manager one that scares me and tells me your knowledge of flashing may be more on the noob side. If not, I apologize but also if you have read any bricking or rom installing posts in this forum nowhere do you see to use Rom Manager.
Flashing an ICS rom is as easy as the OP says is it. Odin it if you prefer or flash it but please follow the OP's direction and honestly get rid of Rom Manager and learn how to get into recovery, bootloader or flash a rom the good old fashioned way. It may help you out in the long run

Odin back to stock rooted EL29 and then use Calk's full wipe. Flash ICS rom and you're good to go. I'm loving it and the bugs are so few, I can live. You learn to manually manipulate the notification bug. I have had insane battery now that it's settled in. I'm on agat63's tFD02. Even using inverted apps for more battery savings.

it works great but you have to remember its not a final version. still has a few bugs. but worth it for me i love ICS

playya said:
You do know that Rom Manager can be a brick stigma as well.. I know you may want to get ICS but if you are using Rom Manager one that scares me and tells me your knowledge of flashing may be more on the noob side. If not, I apologize but also if you have read any bricking or rom installing posts in this forum nowhere do you see to use Rom Manager.
Flashing an ICS rom is as easy as the OP says is it. Odin it if you prefer or flash it but please follow the OP's direction and honestly get rid of Rom Manager and learn how to get into recovery, bootloader or flash a rom the good old fashioned way. It may help you out in the long run
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OT--Hey playya, haven't seen you around Xoom...we're on ICS 4.0.4 now. Come and play.
On topic...ICS is awesome on the E4GT! Huge leap IMHO.

I'm on CM9 alpha 2 and it's awesome. It just feels much smoother than gingerbread and much cleaner looking than TWiz. I definitely recommend trying it out, I can't go back to the gingerbread now that I've had some ICS.

Ics safe? Id wait for jelly bean coming out soon.. Ics borked my windows computer! If this is any help to you then id suggest staying away from ics.. .. Or read some of the ics threads and stop being lazy
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Yea just read the post or look at qbkings review videos they are stable and very good just wait for sfhub to use one click root for fd02

Ics is worth it since using i can't see myself going back to gbroms... Just follow the op instructions on how to install the rom that you choose many issues have been cause of user error
I'm using blend ics 3.2 working good.. Before that i was using blend gb rom
Also you should try flashing with cwm or rogue recovery instead of rom manager.. Its ver easy.
Rogue recover but not the touch screen version
Just do a nAndroid backup first in recovery then wipe everything then use calks wipe everything zip
Then flash rom reboot and let it settle for about 10 minutes before you do anything then do a reboot and your good . Havent had issues

playya said:
You do know that Rom Manager can be a brick stigma as well.. I know you may want to get ICS but if you are using Rom Manager one that scares me and tells me your knowledge of flashing may be more on the noob side. If not, I apologize but also if you have read any bricking or rom installing posts in this forum nowhere do you see to use Rom Manager.
Flashing an ICS rom is as easy as the OP says is it. Odin it if you prefer or flash it but please follow the OP's direction and honestly get rid of Rom Manager and learn how to get into recovery, bootloader or flash a rom the good old fashioned way. It may help you out in the long run
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i would put myself slightly past noob, but not that much.
Rom manager was great for the nexus... ass for the epic touch.
to clarify, i'm on team rogue CWM and calk. 2.9.2. ; GO launcher.
had several versions of ICS on my nexus... i like the feel of it but every build had its little issues. and the nexus S is just too little. i'm a whore for a glorious, sexy big screen.
i think my biggest problem is i'm not used to the EPIC set up, mem card, usb card, internal. its a mess when i'm trying to get through the rogue menus.

I had epic for 4 months now but never even tried to flash ics yet.As far as i see ics still has some lag even on nexus and probably is a resources hog,i could be wrong but from what i learned ics is like vista and gb is xp.
Plus extra steps needed just to flash it without bricking,once real and stable ics cwm comes out and samsung releases ics ota then i will give it a try because i dont think its as smooth,lag free and stable as my Blazer 4.0 or even gb miui yet.It took many updates even for gb to be as stable as it is now.

well... you make a good point. i just... get the itch. new is always sexy and better in my eyes.
and if the mods want to lock this or move, thats fine, poster was right, this should be Q & A ... but whatev's.. i think its relevant conversation.

just installed the blend after backing up my 2.9.2 GB....
ICS is so sexy. i missed the visuals. I will keep a mental note of the snags, but right now, the ics blue and this big sexy screen were just meant for each other.... so good even the iPeople could be jealous.
quick point, as if i have any, i'm a Mac user, but i boot into Win 7 for anything android. i didn't use Odin, i just put the zip on my sd card, but just... always use windows. whenever i use OSX, things get pointlessly complacated... things just dont work right. Windows? no prob.
so bootcamp it boys!

Seriously CM9 is the best ROM for this phone! I hate TouchWiz with a passion. This is how Android SHOULD be! I haven't had any issues with Alpha2, I consider it stable. Once you go CM, you never go back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563658

atomb said:
I'm on CM9 alpha 2 and it's awesome. It just feels much smoother than gingerbread and much cleaner looking than TWiz. I definitely recommend trying it out, I can't go back to the gingerbread now that I've had some ICS.
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GB is butter compared to ics at least till we get an official release. ICS still has a lot of lagginess scrolling thru screens and app drawer, dont experience any lag on GB roms. I will admit ics roms are improving and very fun to play around on.
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I disagree. Though mortal kombat is a good game, donkey Kong is the best game ever

Brand new SGS S II. Where do i start?

As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.

The ICS ROM's are not completely stable yet, they are based off the Skyrocket ICS leak. But it's the same as your old phone, Odin CWM then flash a rom. No need to root if you're going to flash a custom rom, they are already rooted. The only requirement for ICS is flashing the super wipe zip from the dev section before flashing the rom. Just make sure you follow instructions in the OP word for word, and you will be fine. But READ READ READ 3x before jumping in.
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ihateDISCO said:
As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.
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It's hard to brick. Use Odin, flash something with root, and use CWM beyond that. Generally, ROM features are listed in the threads where they're posted. You might start out by reading through some threads.

thx for the info i was a little confused about the ics was looking thru and the tuesday rom looks very nice. again thank you for the info and for putting up with a noob.

I agree with what everyone has said.
For what it's worth:
Eugene's Macnut is my daily driver. I try them all, and I am always going back to it. Fantastic battery life, great performance, and everything just works. The custom driver is fantastic--already highly undervolted.
If you don't care about wi-fi calling, his CM7 is fantastic.
If you want ICS, they are all basically the same right now, with a few tweaks / mods / themeing here or there.
Yaldak's vanilla update will be the next ICS that I try (none are quite stable enough for me yet...and no wifi calling) whenever he releases it.
Also--if you haven't already, just CWM via Odin, and you can be done. I never even booted into the stock version when I got the phone.

any working links for the cwm? looking thru posts cant find one that will open.

ihateDISCO said:
any working links for the cwm? looking thru posts cant find one that will open.
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this is a zip i put together. it has:
Odin 1.85
CWM recovery.tar.md5
ADB / USB Drivers for the t989
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/622730/t989.zip
Enjoy!

I recently rooted and started flashing my GS2 as well as my GF's G2x. For the GS2, I've tried Tuesday's BluRay. It's really nice..very fast and smooth, great looking themes for it too, but I found it was a bit too limited, and eventually had to load another launcher and reconfigure some of the sounds. I also really missed the time on the status bar (M&S has since put out a patch that added the clock to one of the themes, unfortunately it wasn't the theme I preferred). I ran with that for a couple days and have since flashed Foxstar. I really like Foxstar's included utilities and tools, but it was a bit laggy coming out of the lockscreen and scrolling through pages. I've read that loading faux's kernel over the included synergy helps a lot. Will probably do that in a bit and run with foxstar for a few days to test out performance and battery life. But I'm getting itchy fingers and might try one of the CM7 ROMs or Juggernaut soon. I'm making Nandroids of each install I've done (as well as the stock), and eventually I'll pick one to run as a daily driver.

I recommend Eugene's next CM7 update the R3. I've been running with it since R1 and it's superb.
With the massive customizations it's hard to go back to GB or the alpha like ICS's out there. Although the latter have great qualities.

does the cm7 have the tv out function via the mhl cable?

Since you're new here. The few times a gs2 was bricked is because of:
1. flash a rom different galaxy s2 rom as in the international, the att, sprint, old vibrant. We can flash the skyrocket roms though.
2. Using odin to flash a stock rom incorrectly. i.e. using a pit file, battery falls out etc
3. the Phone just DIES OUT. Believe it or not, some people's phone just shuts off and won't turn on again.
But other than that, our phone is pretty hard to brick if you're not stupid.

T989 is a beast and is very hard to brick if you have a lil bit of root knowledge...everything ive learned has been thru google , trial and error and the bad ass devs here at xda..if u search for it you will find the answers to all your questions

ihateDISCO said:
As the title states today i got my sgs s II. impressed with it so far but i want to start flashing new roms. Came from the sgs 4g i am familiar with cwm, odin and superoneclick but looking at roms here i see that there are ICS roms that have special requirements as to flashing (read the megamix install instructions) and i don't want to brick or otherwise mess this phone up. if anyone can guide in the right direction where to start and the differences in the roms on this forum id really appreciate it.
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Sell it and get a phone with better development. This ones is horrific imho, but you know what they say about opinions. 8)

[Q] Safe way to back up current ICS istall?

I am currently running Agat63's tFD26_v0.1.0 Rooted Odexed along with FD26 kernel w/ rogue cwm that was taken from Calkulin's_E4GT_2_ROM_v1.5 and I want to do a nandroid backup. Is it safe to do the backup from this kernel or do I need to go back to EL26+cwm?
Also, what would be the safest way to restore said backup if I am on another ICS rom? I don't think I will be playing with AOKP or CM9 for some time so those are not in question.

Reflash the El26 CWM kernel, nandroid, then reflash the FD26 kernel so that your Rom will boot again.
That's all ya gotta do. If you have to restore from that nandroid, you will have to restore, then reflash the FD26 kernel for it to work.

Honestly the answer to this and many questions can be easily found in here or using Google. As instructed above basically flashing an EL26 kernel will get you started. I don't mean to be an ass but this a question you honestly should of figured out prior to flashing.
Knowing what to do before you get yourself into trouble is always a good idea. I just don't want to see you start a I bricked my phone thread that's all. Be careful and know your options in the future....
Good luck

playya said:
Honestly the answer to this and many questions can be easily found in here or using Google. As instructed above basically flashing an EL26 kernel will get you started. I don't mean to be an ass but this a question you honestly should of figured out prior to flashing.
Knowing what to do before you get yourself into trouble is always a good idea. I just don't want to see you start a I bricked my phone thread that's all. Be careful and know your options in the future....
Good luck
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Nobody is in trouble here, and quite frankly I am not sure how many times someone has answered a question about a kernel that is from a rom that was released a couple days ago. But maybe my question SHOULD have been is this newest kernel safe to back up with.

CyberpodS2 said:
Nobody is in trouble here, and quite frankly I am not sure how many times someone has answered a question about a kernel that is from a rom that was released a couple days ago. But maybe my question SHOULD have been is this newest kernel safe to back up with.
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A day ago a week ago a month ago the process is still the same my friend I see you got a little upset my bad but your question is no different than the process noted all over xda epic touch forum.
I am basically saying that asking the question can open up multiple answers and may only confuse you more. Follow the developers wishes and those who know better than us and things should go great for you. Again my bad if you dont get what I am trying to say.... Happy Flashing
quite simply use the GB EL26 CWM and make sure you have a copy of the ICS kernel...
Once again good luck

playya said:
A day ago a week ago a month ago the process is still the same my friend I see you got a little upset my bad but your question is no different than the process noted all over xda epic touch forum.
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I am not upset, just wanted to nail down what is what in regards to my setup. There is conflicting (or at least concurrent) information regarding what is and is not safe to flash with repacked kernels vs. the EL26+CWM.
I did a lot of searching and reading before asking my question. I have read that nothing should be flashed with the rogue repacks. That modems and kernels are safe but not roms. That any zips that do not format are safe. Etc... I truly do understand your frustration with what seems to be similar questions being asked daily. Maybe I did not read enough different posts, but just 5 minutes after reading your reply I read this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25850359&postcount=165
You might understand why I thought to ask about my specific rom/kernel install. I do appreciate the time you took to reply twice and no I don't think your being an ass.

From what I have read and through my own experience, the AOSP type ROMS are really the only ones that you need to backup using the EL26 kernel. I have switched between agat/calk/venum/stock rooted using the rogue fd02 kernel with no issues at all. The brick seems to happen because the AOSP kernels/ROMS are written different than the stock based ROMS and it corrupts the partition when trying to go back and forth.
T.C.P. is almost done with his AOSP Cwm kernel so it might just pay to be patient for it.
Of course, flash at your own risk always.
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dante32278 said:
I have switched between agat/calk/venum/stock rooted using the rogue fd02 kernel with no issues at all.
Of course, flash at your own risk always.
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Question for you since you have been through those roms. Did you have a favorite? I came from Blazer 4.1 to tFD26_v0.1.0 and so far am happy with it. That being said I was wondering if any of the others had a shiny spot worth looking at...

Calks is super fast....the new one from reactive disorder has been very smooth and is my current daily...agat roms are nice and run smooth....personally I like the rubix from reactive disorder. No issues with the rom and he is all over the message board for it.
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dante32278 said:
Calks is super fast....the new one from reactive disorder has been very smooth and is my current daily...agat roms are nice and run smooth....personally I like the rubix from reactive disorder. No issues with the rom and he is all over the message board for it.
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Sweet... Thanks!

CyberpodS2 said:
I am not upset, just wanted to nail down what is what in regards to my setup. There is conflicting (or at least concurrent) information regarding what is and is not safe to flash with repacked kernels vs. the EL26+CWM.
I did a lot of searching and reading before asking my question. I have read that nothing should be flashed with the rogue repacks. That modems and kernels are safe but not roms. That any zips that do not format are safe. Etc... I truly do understand your frustration with what seems to be similar questions being asked daily. Maybe I did not read enough different posts, but just 5 minutes after reading your reply I read this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25850359&postcount=165
You might understand why I thought to ask about my specific rom/kernel install. I do appreciate the time you took to reply twice and no I don't think your being an ass.
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Believe me I understand your frustration but it seems what may work for one does not always work for another and I would prefer you to be cautious and like you said SAFE way to backup as opposed to a way that someone on here may have had luck with... But it seems you got it under control so again enjoy!

playya said:
Believe me I understand your frustration but it seems what may work for one does not always work for another and I would prefer you to be cautious and like you said SAFE way to backup as opposed to a way that someone on here may have had luck with... But it seems you got it under control so again enjoy!
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Thanks man!

[please sticky] Gonna flash an ICS build? Check here before you brick yourself!

Due to an error in the kernels we've been flashing to our devices, a lot of users have been experiencing a FULL BRICK. Full brick meaning you may as well play golf with your phone, it's dead.
I've been told there is a fix, BUT YOU MUST NOT FLASH ANYTHING FROM CWM. The bug is originating from flashing a corrupt kernel from CWM or mobile ODIN.
Here's a cut from the article:
Thanks to XDA Elite Recognized Developer Entropy512, we have learned that most devices that are receiving leaks are at a very high risk of never waking up after a flash. It turns out that there is a major bug in the leaked ICS kernel that affects the /data partition in the eMMC chip, which apparently gets corrupted during certain operations such as wiping and flashing. This was originally believed to be affecting only operations performed in custom recoveries such as CWM. However, there have been reports of hard bricks being produced from the flashing from stock recoveries as well. The affected devices are:
All Epic 4G Touch (SPH-D710) ICS leaks
All Galaxy Note (GT-N7000) ICS leaks
The AT&T Galaxy S II (SGH-I777) UCLD3 leak – and probably all others
Korean SHW-M250S/K/L official releases and any kernel built from their source
Entropy and other devs have posted several warnings scattered throughout the site, in which they explain in detail what is happening. Our suggestion is that users should stay away from flashing ICS from leaks until the bug in the kernel has been completely fixed—unless of course, you are looking to hard brick your device. Remember, this is not something that can be resurrected via Unbrickable Mod or even via JTAG, as this is a firmware error in the eMMC.
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Just like you, I don't wish to brick my E4GT. xST4T1K has posted a comprehensive guide to find your options on removing the affected ICS kernels from your device, and hopefully resulting in you not bricking the crap out of your phone. Go check this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
I DO NOT take credit for finding this bug, credit goes to Entropy512 and XDA TV's EGZTHUNDER1 for alerting me of this bug. I have safely removed the affected ICS kernel from my phone and custom builds, now it's your turn.
The only reason I'm requesting a sticky in the wrong forum (Yes, I know I posted in the development branch) is because most users won't know about these affected kernels before trying their newly rooted E4GT into some ICS bling.. Next thing you know, you've got a two day old brick with a shiny screen.
Please, once again, GO TO THIS PAGE and explore the options of returning your phone back to dry land.
As a reminder, DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING FROM CWM OR MOBILE ODIN.
While I have heard that flashing a non-ICS kernel from ODIN has fixed these issues, we're looking more into that now.. I have alerted xST4T1K of this, and we'll get back to you with confirmed results.
Safe flashing, XDA members.

Maybe this sticky from the general forum should just be moved over to here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23149990
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Weve kinda known this for a while now since the February leaks... js. Still, safe flashing everyone lol.

first off, many have been warned by all the devs, myself and other users since these unlocked recoveries came out and then the repacked recoveries started up again...
USE CALKULIN'S FORMAT ALL OR CALKULINS MODIFIED FORMAT ALL, to do any wiping...
DO NOT WIPE FROM STOCK OR CWM RECOVERIES...
If you do what is said above, you won't brick your device.
Why do you wipe from the stock when all you have to do is flash 1 file to do it all for you?
NOW again....
USE CALKULIN'S FORMAT ALL OR CALKULINS MODIFIED FORMAT ALL, to do any wiping...
DO NOT WIPE FROM STOCK OR CWM RECOVERIES...
Quite Easy.
In the end, it's called following directions.
Edit: just to clarify... Wiping cache/dalvik cache from stock or cwm repacked recoveries is safe.
The issue is Wiping Data (Don't use the option)

bigpeng said:
first off, many have been warned by all the devs, myself and other users since these unlocked recoveries came out and then the repacked recoveries started up again...
USE CALKULIN'S FORMAT ALL OR CALKULINS MODIFIED FORMAT ALL, to do any wiping...
DO NOT WIPE FROM STOCK OR CWM RECOVERIES...
If you do what is said above, you won't brick your device.
Why do you wipe from the stock when all you have to do is flash 1 file to do it all for you?
NOW again....
USE CALKULIN'S FORMAT ALL OR CALKULINS MODIFIED FORMAT ALL, to do any wiping...
DO NOT WIPE FROM STOCK OR CWM RECOVERIES...
Quite Easy.
In the end, it's called following directions.
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So my question is... What about flashing mod's that require only wiping cache and dalvik??? I guess I've been lucky with wiping cache and dalvik from cwm recoveries but does this mean no more mod's until source is released???
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bigpeng said:
first off, many have been warned by all the devs, myself and other users since these unlocked recoveries came out and then the repacked recoveries started up again...
USE CALKULIN'S FORMAT ALL OR CALKULINS MODIFIED FORMAT ALL, to do any wiping...
DO NOT WIPE FROM STOCK OR CWM RECOVERIES...
If you do what is said above, you won't brick your device.
Why do you wipe from the stock when all you have to do is flash 1 file to do it all for you?
NOW again....
USE CALKULIN'S FORMAT ALL OR CALKULINS MODIFIED FORMAT ALL, to do any wiping...
DO NOT WIPE FROM STOCK OR CWM RECOVERIES...
Quite Easy.
In the end, it's called following directions.
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In a world where users flash before they research, common sense doesn't have a stronghold.

DjKurt said:
So my question is... What about flashing mod's that require only wiping cache and dalvik??? I guess I've been lucky with wiping cache and dalvik from cwm recoveries but does this mean no more mod's until source is released???
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The issue is from Wiping Data from stock and cwm recoveries, you can wipe cache and dalvik with no worries. Those don't mess with partitions.
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You may be able to flash wipe mods and such but imsince I bricked mine doing just that. I will not flash anything in an ics recovery. I will Odin modems and will flash roms and kernels in one session and that is always coming from stock GB. Take for what its worth. Not saying the above mentioned ways aren't worth noting. But flashing the format script in blue cwm while on ICS is what bricked me.

scarmon25 said:
You may be able to flash wipe mods and such but imsince I bricked mine doing just that. I will not flash anything in an ics recovery. I will Odin modems and will flash roms and kernels in one session and that is always coming from stock GB. Take for what its worth. Not saying the above mentioned ways aren't worth noting. But flashing the format script in blue cwm while on ICS is what bricked me.
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That sucks, sorry to hear that...
I was one of the first to test cwm repacked recoveries for agat63 since FE10 and have flashed 37 times to and from different roms and done backups and restores countless times and I've been fine.
I haven't been fearful of any bricks since I tested these repacked kernels.
Hope it does get figured out once source hits though.
Edit: btw what kernel (with or without cwm repack?) did you brick in?
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It was back when CM9 first was released. I was using the el26 cwm kernel to flash. I was on one of the ice builds I can't remember. I odined the kernel cwm combo el26 and then ran a format all and flashed cm9 and ggot the blue light special haha
Its all good though. I have read alot of info in this including the one mentioned. One thing that was mentioned in one of them is that the bug had been triggered be deleteing a large file off the internal memory. That worried me. So I've been weary of ICS builds since. The fact that the issue seems to be that info getting wrote to a certain block of the emmc has me worried that it could be triggered by more then wiping of flashing. I have ran agats ROMs and I have to say he seems to be doing something right. Whether it is because he is staying TouchWiz or what for some reason his users seem tto not have many issues. But just keep in mind that it may not just be kernel/recovery related.
Safe flashing is key and I never want to see someone brick. Just be careful in whatever you do.

Sorry, I haven't had much of a chance to update my thread lately but I will soon. With all the leaks that were consistently being released, it wasn't feasible to update it every other day. The thread already has everything you need to know about bricking so I figured if you couldn't figure out how to prevent a brick with the information given, then you should probably buy an IPhone and never attempt flashing in the first place.

xST4T1K said:
Sorry, I haven't had much of a chance to update my thread lately but I will soon. With all the leaks that were consistently being released, it wasn't feasible to update it every other day. The thread already has everything you need to know about bricking so I figured if you couldn't figure out how to prevent a brick with the information given, then you should probably buy an IPhone and never attempt flashing in the first place.
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I couldn't have said it any better, my friend!
As far as those who've bricked their phones, it is truly unfortunate.. Google themselves has been brought into light on this situation, and are working to correct this issue in the kernels that they've been adding in with their firmware.
As far as your useless phones go.. Try filing for an insurance claim, I guess! NOT my professionally recommended advice.. But IF someone were to have stolen that useless phone of yours and you were to never see it again.. Well, who am I to say that's not a reason to get a replacement from asurion! Lol!

By the way, xST4T1K.. Bumped you thanks count up a little more.
Thank goodness I ran into these threads before I decided to flash anything else.. Been running a solid ICS rom for a few weeks, now. But I'd rather get back to safe land on GingerBread Island and use Apex Launcher. Wouldn't care for the huge difference in the settings menu. Would miss the lockscreen, though.. Not aiming my finger at an unlock tab has gotten habitual!

crazy.. not sure i agree with this thread.. its scaring people away from trying awesome roms.. if you search in any ics rom or aosp ics rom you hear little about people bricking there phones.. there are clear instructions to install and if you dont know what your doing and cant follow instructions dont do it or you will have a brick. ive been on ics since the first leak and have had to odin many times after a "soft brick" from me not following instructions but its simple.. dont format data on any ics kernel/cwm and you'll be fine..
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elliwigy said:
crazy.. not sure i agree with this thread.. its scaring people away from trying awesome roms.. if you search in any ics rom or aosp ics rom you hear little about people bricking there phones.. there are clear instructions to install and if you dont know what your doing and cant follow instructions dont do it or you will have a brick. ive been on ics since the first leak and have had to odin many times after a "soft brick" from me not following instructions but its simple.. dont format data on any ics kernel/cwm and you'll be fine..
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I would never want to scare anyone away from trying these great builds on XDA. What I do want though is to make people aware that no matter how many tines you flash something. Always treat the flash your about to do as if it was your first. Sometimes we get to comfortable in what we're doing. We have to remember that this is a pretty expensive device and if something happens you may be buying a new one outright. Not everyone has insurance or can throw out that kind of cash. Do safe flashing practices and make sure you read the OP. When flashing leaked software make sure to flash from stock or the most current OEM released build such as EL29 in this case. Verify the right files are in the right slots of Odin. Make sure you're flashing files in the right sequence when in a custom recovery. Thing like that. I believe in the openness of android and never want to see anyone say they aren't going to flash something because they are scared. With the right ammount of reading and precautions. There is no reason to be scared.
Just for example. And this is not an exaggeration. Between this phone,my wife's phone, my last phone, my wife's last phone, and numerous friends phones. I have well over 200+ flashes. I have only had one actual brick. And that brick was because I got too comfortable in what I was doing. So, odds are if you take tthe time to do it right. You will succeed. Also.

i cant figure out why this is not locked yet....

i agree scarmon.. you said it better than i could.. if i wasnt tech savvy and i read the op i would have been scared away.. it says in all caps not to flash in cwm and says many have experienced bricks.. it can be worded differently but its freedom of speech.. when the initial leak came out and we had rogue ics kernels and the LOSt kernel we werent sure why people were having bricks until we figured out what was causing it.. we've known this for a while and since then hard bricks have dropped drastically.. and every single developer insisted not flashing from ics kernels and every rom has a disclaimer in the op for this reason.. only bricks ive read have been user error for a while ie. unplugging device during odin flash or battery dieing during mobile odin flash etc.. plus this is in the dev thread.. right now most people come here for ics roms since thats what devs are working on.. and many have gone safely back to gingerbread many times.. the ics roms have hundreds of thousands if not millions of hits and how many posts about hard bricks?
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I've been flashing ICS roms since FB17 and haven't had any bricks. I've been making sure to only flash things from EL26 and it's been smooth sailing.
Now I'm running the most recent AOKP and it's running very well.

Your credit is pretty thin too. Entropy is a big name in this issue but him and some random dude that apparently notified you very very late about this issue doesn't even cover half of it.
The front page news on the issue was pretty late as well. Just lets the general population know about it.
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While I have heard that flashing a non-ICS kernel from ODIN has fixed these issues, we're looking more into that now.. I have alerted xST4T1K of this, and we'll get back to you with confirmed results.
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Its things like this "While I have heard" that is the problem with your post. That and begging for a sticky, talk to a moderator if you feel its important.
Flashing a non-ics kernel through ODIN does not fix any issue. Flashing from a safe Kernel avoids the issue, If your on ICS flashing the GB Kernel from ODIN would be the safe method. Gingerbread as far as we have known and hundreds of flashes per person per hundreds of phones later. No one has been known to trigger the eMMC firmware bug though gingerbread. So yes flashing from a Gingerbread kernel as we have since the phone came out is the safest known way. You don't need anyone to tell you that.
You come in and say "Do not flash anything from CWM". This is inaccurate it suggests one can not flash from EG30+ CWM which has never been a known danger. Obviously EK02 would be more popular due to supporting full modems rather than patch. EL26 was the last to have true CWM which is why EL29 Rogue is less often suggested.
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The only reason I'm requesting a sticky in the wrong forum (Yes, I know I posted in the development branch) is because most users won't know about these affected kernels before trying their newly rooted E4GT into some ICS bling.. Next thing you know, you've got a two day old brick with a shiny screen.
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The danger is not in flashing ICS. The unknowing user is going to be flashing ICS from EL29 which is safe. The danger is after they are there, and they try a factory reset, or install a CWM or Unlocked Recovery Kernel and flash something, or flash an update.zip through stock recovery. Yes they need to know, the information should be accurate however.

If anyone wants details of this emmc firmware bug, there's some really knowledgeable people in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
The info is very detailed, but these are the individuals to watch. OP if your serious about helping our community with this emmc bug, I hope you join in that conversation instead of asking to sticky this thread.
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New to Android, looking for advice

I just got this phone (Samsung Galaxy S2, Epic 4G Touch) a few months ago. I'm tired of waiting for ICS to come out. I already know that I have a hard brick bug chip (from running the checker app someone here made). I think here are all of my options:
1. Install a leaked ICS ROM. Can I be safe from bricking if I do it right?
2. Install Cyanogenmod ICS. Am I safe here?
3. Wait for ICS or Jelly Bean to be released from Sprint for my phone. How long will that take??
What I want:
1. ICS
2. Better battery life: is this a kernel or ROM thing?
3. Candied Bacon

Awk34 said:
I just got this phone (Samsung Galaxy S2, Epic 4G Touch) a few months ago. I'm tired of waiting for ICS to come out. I already know that I have a hard brick bug chip (from running the checker app someone here made). I think here are all of my options:
1. Install a leaked ICS ROM. Can I be safe from bricking if I do it right?
2. Install Cyanogenmod ICS. Am I safe here?
3. Wait for ICS or Jelly Bean to be released from Sprint for my phone. How long will that take??
What I want:
1. ICS
2. Better battery life: is this a kernel or ROM thing?
3. Candied Bacon
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I would wait, supposedly ICS is rumored to roll out by Samsung on the 20th, so I wouldn't risk it...But, if you insist, I would personally go with Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6, just make sure to flash it correctly (I recommend Flash EL26, then Cyanogen in its CWM recovery) Just make sure you read through the bug list in Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6 first to make sure that everything you need is working. Honestly though, I would just wait for the update by Samsung if you want to play it safe.
Link to Stock EL26 with CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605355
Please Note: I am in to way responsible if you or anyone reading this bricks or damages their device in any way. If the reader does not agree to this, please disregard the text above immediately, and do not let it influence you and/or guide you in any way.

ICS is being released over the air starting today
There are multiple discussions here in our General section http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1282

2momo123 said:
I would wait, supposedly ICS is rumored to roll out by Samsung on the 20th, so I wouldn't risk it...But, if you insist, I would personally go with Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6, just make sure to flash it correctly (I recommend Flash EL26, then Cyanogen in its CWM recovery) Just make sure you read through the bug list in Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6 first to make sure that everything you need is working. Honestly though, I would just wait for the update by Samsung if you want to play it safe.
Link to Stock EL26 with CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605355
Please Note: I am in to way responsible if you or anyone reading this bricks or damages their device in any way. If the reader does not agree to this, please disregard the text above immediately, and do not let it influence you and/or guide you in any way.
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ICS is being released over the air starting today
There are multiple discussions here in our General section http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1282
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Thanks guys. I've been googling articles on the release date for months and finally when I decide to ask here, it's out. :silly: Can't wait to get the update, hope I get it soon. Thanks!

You can wait for the offical ota update. but just because it started today doesn't mean you'll get it today or tomorrow. I know I had to wait a week with my old epic 4g(not touch). you can look thru the different roms to see which one would fit your needs better. If you odin the leaked FF18 version you will be safe. Battery life mostly depends on how you use your phone and what settings you have. when i was running GB i had mine undervolted, sync turned off and screen brightness turned way down. The biggest thing about flashing ICS roms is follow the OP's instuctions. Since we now have the new ICS kernel (from source code) flashing ICS to ICS should be safe. but I can't say for sure i haven't tried it yet.
What is candied bacon? never heard of it

g_ding84 said:
You can wait for the offical ota update. but just because it started today doesn't mean you'll get it today or tomorrow. I know I had to wait a week with my old epic 4g(not touch). you can look thru the different roms to see which one would fit your needs better. If you odin the leaked FF18 version you will be safe. Battery life mostly depends on how you use your phone and what settings you have. when i was running GB i had mine undervolted, sync turned off and screen brightness turned way down. The biggest thing about flashing ICS roms is follow the OP's instuctions. Since we now have the new ICS kernel (from source code) flashing ICS to ICS should be safe. but I can't say for sure i haven't tried it yet.
What is candied bacon? never heard of it
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Candied bacon is bacon cooked with brown sugar on it.
Would me installing an FF18 today be any different than the one to be pushed out later? Does Cyanogenmod have FF18 for my phone? Or is that not how Cyanogenmod works..
So a ROM is specific to a phone, and a kernel is specific to a ROM, but is a kernel specific to a ROM for a phone, or is a kernel specific to any phones's version of a ROM? S*** just got confusing..
If I use Sprint's pushed ROM, will I become unrooted? Do new ROMs come with new accompanying kernels?
Ugh I'm so confused.

Candied bacon is bacon cooked with brown sugar on it.
AWESOME
Would me installing an FF18 today be any different than the one to be pushed out later?
Yes! If you use sfhub's One-Clicks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229 you will have FF18 AND root. If you update the OTA you will lose ROOT.
Does Cyanogenmod have FF18 for my phone? Or is that not how Cyanogenmod works..
Yes there is a CM9 for this phone (right now on Alpha 6). IF you plan on flashing that make absolutely sure you follow the precise instructions or you will surely paper weight your phone! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563658
So a ROM is specific to a phone, and a kernel is specific to a ROM, but is a kernel specific to a ROM for a phone, or is a kernel specific to any phones's version of a ROM? S*** just got confusing..
Yes it can be confusing! So please, please take some time to read through the stickies and posts here! A little time spent reading through all the threads will save you killing your device.
Good luck

leaderbuilder said:
Candied bacon is bacon cooked with brown sugar on it.
AWESOME
Would me installing an FF18 today be any different than the one to be pushed out later?
Yes! If you use sfhub's One-Clicks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229 you will have FF18 AND root. If you update the OTA you will lose ROOT.
Does Cyanogenmod have FF18 for my phone? Or is that not how Cyanogenmod works..
Yes there is a CM9 for this phone (right now on Alpha 6). IF you plan on flashing that make absolutely sure you follow the precise instructions or you will surely paper weight your phone! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563658
So a ROM is specific to a phone, and a kernel is specific to a ROM, but is a kernel specific to a ROM for a phone, or is a kernel specific to any phones's version of a ROM? S*** just got confusing..
Yes it can be confusing! So please, please take some time to read through the stickies and posts here! A little time spent reading through all the threads will save you killing your device.
Good luck
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Thanks for your help! I'll be sure to browse the stickies around here.
So what do you suggest to me? Installing Cyanogenmod 9 A6, or a rooted FF18? Also, will I be able to keep all of my data when installing these?
edit: It looks like both options will reset my data. I was really hoping to avoid that. I'm wondering how to save data from things like certain games...
edit2: Also, I am wondering if I can customize my boot up screen with Cyanogenmod, because SAMSUNG doesn't allow you to do it with their dumb custom boot animation format. I havn't seen anything about being able to do it with C9 on a phone with Samsung's custom boot anim format.

If you use sfhub's one click 'no data' it will preserver your data and give you FF18 plus root.
Since you are just starting out that is what I would recommend. It will give root, keep your data and the latest modem and everything (stock) Touch Wiz
If you want CWM you can use Mobile Odin [ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro&hl=en ] to add Agat's latest safe recovery found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421 One of the best paid apps around if you plan on doing any modding. Watch the tutorial and read how to use it. Pretty simple. Biggest issue I found is that when selecting a kernel or other update you have to scroll down (way down) to click on apply update - easy to miss.
Again take the time and read through the entire posts. Many times questinon you are going to ask (or will come up with soon enough) will be answered.
Welcome and hope you enjoy the phone.
and if I or anyone else helps you out feel free to click on that 'thanks' button.

leaderbuilder said:
If you use sfhub's one click 'no data' it will preserver your data and give you FF18 plus root.
Since you are just starting out that is what I would recommend. It will give root, keep your data and the latest modem and everything (stock) Touch Wiz
If you want CWM you can use Mobile Odin [ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro&hl=en ] to add Agat's latest safe recovery found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421 One of the best paid apps around if you plan on doing any modding. Watch the tutorial and read how to use it. Pretty simple. Biggest issue I found is that when selecting a kernel or other update you have to scroll down (way down) to click on apply update - easy to miss.
Again take the time and read through the entire posts. Many times questinon you are going to ask (or will come up with soon enough) will be answered.
Welcome and hope you enjoy the phone.
and if I or anyone else helps you out feel free to click on that 'thanks' button.
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Thanks, I'll install sfhub's NODATA. Now I'm wondering whether to give my brother the stock install or to root his... He has the same phone.

You can also download titanium backup or my backup. Both are in the market. I use it to back up all my apps. There are other programs to backup SMS and call logs. Sometimes you can have issues with not wiping the data.
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You really can't go wrong with sfhub's one-clicks. They are essentially OTAs (released to development) that sfhub as added root to and made them unbelievably simple to use. And since the Sprint OTA build is FF18 your good to go. Just don't take the OTA if you are presented with it as you'll lose root.
With root you will be able to use some great tools (Titanium Backup, Mobile Odin, WiFi tether etc.) and be able to remove loads of carrier 'bloatware'.
I'd start that way and read up on using CWM and the different tools and options here.

I flashed ICS, but personally I wish I had stayed on GB for a little while longer. ICS is going out over the air today, and it would be nice to allow the devs a little more time with it. I recommend Calkulins latest GB ROM.

Personally, I recommend MIJJz ICS. There's a couple of versions to meet your needs. I use "Goodness" which has all the bells and whistles. I imagine with the official ICS release coming out that he'll be updating his ICS Roms soon, especially Goodness. If you try it out, let us know what you think.
[ROM][TN] MIJJz ICS {GOODNESS 7/9}{MINI 6/30}{LTD 6/25}{NO-NAME}{SLIM}:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512419

I've been running sfhub's NODATA ICS ROM for the past day and Agat's Kernel and it's been running pretty well. Thanks all!
I have been considering Mijjs Goodness, thanks for that.