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Im going to root my phone usings toast method...do I do the ota or not.
zikronix said:
Im going to root my phone usings toast method...do I do the ota or not.
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toast will probably recommend not to use the OTA update and recommend you use his separate update files ....
zikronix said:
Im going to root my phone usings toast method...do I do the ota or not.
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No don't update
ok...thats in line with what i was reading. as he was saying yes the root works after the ota but we may find that you need the shipping version of the rom...in order to maybe unlock the nand. and if you ota you may lose that.
kinda hard to make a definitive answer for that..I'm happy to say that although I ran the OTA, the root method still worked.
I think, though, the point is that not running OTAs is just a good rule o' thumb cuz y'never know what may happen.
p.s. you do realize that if you are, indeed, planning to root..there's no reason to run the OTA cuz root takes you backward, right?
Definitive = No
KERKEDAGAIN said:
kinda hard to make a definitive answer for that..I'm happy to say that although I ran the OTA, the root method still worked.
I think, though, the point is that not running OTAs is just a good rule o' thumb cuz y'never know what may happen.
p.s. you do realize that if you are, indeed, planning to root..there's no reason to run the OTA cuz root takes you backward, right?
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was not aware that it would take ya backwards...all though that makes sense...after rooting though and doing the ota update we know root sticks so...that would bring you current again. which though when i was reading that the ota update may or may not prevent you from doing the nand unprotect later on
jesus...
did you read anything before you posted up?
not to be an ass, but do a little research. and, this is not development. this is q and a. post your questions there.
Yes I read the problem is there is 4 different threads at least with conflicting info.
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Someone else has mentioned this on another forum, thought I'd give a heads up here
Anybody who knows what exactly changed with this OTA?
Think it's just smoother playback on 720p video from what someone on the Vodafone forum said...they never have change logs to updates so other than that no idea
should I
Think i will hold off i got stung by vodafone last time who filled my phone with there 360 crap
Confirmed on Vodafone website from others who've downloaded it that there is NO Vodafone gumpf so you're good to go
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/topic/80416-2331612/page__gopid__515537&#entry515537
I got it just now and can't find any changes yet...
The update file is 30.8MB. It's a big file for not changing much.
would someone please root this one and make it with superuser and the usual stuff? interests me very much - thanks in advance
Why not just flash it and then root it again?
Does anyone knows what has exactly been changed???
Read the thread I posted up there...
"Hi Guys
I have got the HTC Desire, but haven't updated it yet, as I want to back up my information first.
The information that I have been given is that the improvement included an upgrade to Adobe Flash 10.1 for better video play, addition of Google security patches, the latest Gmail client, and a few bugs have been ironed out from the previous update.
I hope you all enjoyed the latest update.
Martin
eForum Team
PS Just a reminder, the forum will be read only from 10pm Tuesday until we launch our all new platform at the beginning of December. For more information, see this link"
NoMercyWWE said:
would someone please root this one and make it with superuser and the usual stuff? interests me very much - thanks in advance
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Yeah I want to but I can't find the update??
I can't seem to update this. I get a signature verification error and failed install.
I've tried downloading a number of times.
Is this because I've rooted the phone?
TIA
Yes it is, you need to be unrooted. You can try turning off signature checking in Clockwork Mod but it might go a bit funny
How can I do this update? My phone is rooted. Do I just unroot, update, reroot? Thanks
You can't 'unroot' without wiping all data as you have to use an RUU. Fortunately there is this RUU now available in ROM Development so you can just flash it
Find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853937
How do I flash it, just run it? When I flash it what happens? Do I still have ClockWorkMod installed or do I have to reroot?
I have rooted my Xperia Play and used Titanium Backup to remove the bloat. I've got a backup of the System Apps folder so I can reinstall manually if needed. Is there any sort of Recovery that I can use to make a Nandroid, or is there some file somewhere I can download to restore back to factory when/if ICS is released for Verizon customers? And how do I know if I have an I, X, A, or whatever?
I've tried searching here in the forum, but with all the UK vs US, Orange, Rogers, Verizon, [Insert Your Carrier Here], locked BL vs unlocked BL posts, I can't seem to find answers to those 2 simple questions.
Thanks for your help and your patience. I'm new to this phone, but not new to rooting or Android.
I will help as much as I can
In order for us VZW Plays to have a custom recovery(to create a Nandroid), we have to unlock our bootloader. Which sadly for us VZW users, we have to pay to get ours unlocked by members here on the forum. From what I have read and heard they are great at it and don't leave you hanging. I personally think that VZW will release ICS for us, don't know when, later on Hope I helped.
Well I did read something about FTF (whatever that is) and stock firmware in the development thread, but I don't know which phone they are for. Also, I can't seem to download anything from a DropBox link. I always get a 404 page.
I did figure out if I go into about phone I can find my model (800x) and firmware version information. So that's progress, sort of.
netizenmt said:
Well I did read something about FTF (whatever that is) and stock firmware in the development thread, but I don't know which phone they are for. Also, I can't seem to download anything from a DropBox link. I always get a 404 page.
I did figure out if I go into about phone I can find my model (800x) and firmware version information. So that's progress, sort of.
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You are on the right track. The R800x State of Development thread is for us Verizon users. The FTF files will get you completely back to stock and does not require an unlocked bootloader. You use a program called Flashtool.
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I thought so, but I haven't been on this site long enough to post my question there. I tried to download the necessary files, but for some reason, I always get a 404 page when I try to download anything from DropBox.
If I were to delete the bloatware apps and a system update rolls around, I just need to reinstall the removed apps and the update should run, right?
maddog00 said:
If I were to delete the bloatware apps and a system update rolls around, I just need to reinstall the removed apps and the update should run, right?
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Correct BUT it can be a PIA to remember which ones you removed.
I would either just freeze them with Titanium Backup or flash the FTF files when an update comes out.
HotShotAzn said:
Correct BUT it can be a PIA to remember which ones you removed.
I would either just freeze them with Titanium Backup or flash the FTF files when an update comes out.
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Yeah, in retrospect, I should have thought to write down what I removed before I did so, but...
Once a noob, always a noob, I guess.
Hi,
I just got the phone and have looked thru the forums and I have yet to find a definitive thread on how to root a ATT Samsung S3. Can someone point me in the right direction as the root hits I find all say my phone needs to be a I9300 and mine is a I747.
Also does anyone know what was fixed in the OTA updated that came out 4.0.4? Will this affect me being able to root the phone?
Thanks in advance...Todd
sneakyws6 said:
Hi,
I just got the phone and have looked thru the forums and I have yet to find a definitive thread on how to root a ATT Samsung S3. Can someone point me in the right direction as the root hits I find all say my phone needs to be a I9300 and mine is a I747.
Also does anyone know what was fixed in the OTA updated that came out 4.0.4? Will this affect me being able to root the phone?
Thanks in advance...Todd
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HEY!
Ok so im not completely sure which update 4.0.4 is but I think there has only been one so far right? the one that nerfs google search. Anyway, Here is a link to the guide that i used (after I did the update) and i followed the steps and the comment posted by danK in the comments. He said "If you’ve updated to newer software update, the stock OS will over-write ClockworkMod Recovery on reboot. To fix this, make sure “auto-reboot” is checked off in ODIN, then take the battery out when it’s done flashing in ODIN. Then enter ClockworkMod Recovery right away. " Doing this let me root my phone with zero issues.
androidauthority[.com]/galaxy-s3-sgh-i747-att-clockworkmod-recovery-99791
(sorry it said i could not post links yet but this is the URL but without brackets)
Thanks for the link, that is only how to flash clockworks mods, how do you root the phone? Can anyone share that info?
Welcome to XDA.
First of all, if you had looked in the Dev section you would have found what you were looking for.
2nd of all what you want is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Hey guys, I am new to this forum here but before anyone flames me, I did read the faqs and tried to uninstall from there but it did not work out. Apparently I dont think you can get rid of CM11 since you cant install any stock firmware older than it? Before I installed CM11, I was on jellybean. I had tried to find the latest kitkat update for the s3 (att) and there is no file of it found online (tried sammobile). When I tried flashing an older firmware with ODIN, it just fails at "NAND!". Any help would be appreciated. I am COMPELETELY new at this so specific directions would be appreciated!
I really do love cyanogenmod but there are simply too many glitches and not enough guidance on how to fix em. I am, however, currently using it on my HP touchpad, if anyone remembers what it is . Maybe ill go back to using it in the future.
thanks!
Your rom (cm) has nothing to do with what firmware you can or cannot flash. Once you have updated to 4.3 firmware or newer, you can only flash the same or newer firmware in odin from now on. (Regardless of firmware you can still flash older roms btw)
Using terminal emulator, enter this to find your current firmware build:
getprop ro.bootloader
I suspect you are on a 4.3 build. So odin flash that same firmware. You can find it in these forums. After that you can get the ota to update fully to kk.
There are other methods of updating. Just check the General section. (enewman17 has a few threads that will help)
Note: anytime you go between touchwiz and non touchwiz roms, you will have to factory reset or it'll hang at boot.
DocHoliday77 said:
Your rom (cm) has nothing to do with what firmware you can or cannot flash. Once you have updated to 4.3 firmware or newer, you can only flash the same or newer firmware in odin from now on. (Regardless of firmware you can still flash older roms btw)
Using terminal emulator, enter this to find your current firmware build:
getprop ro.bootloader
I suspect you are on a 4.3 build. So odin flash that same firmware. You can find it in these forums. After that you can get the ota to update fully to kk.
There are other methods of updating. Just check the General section. (enewman17 has a few threads that will help)
Note: anytime you go between touchwiz and non touchwiz roms, you will have to factory reset or it'll hang at boot.
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I am on "I747UCUEMJB"
and i am not sure what build i am on but according to my "build number"this is what it says: "cm_d2att-userbug 4.4.2 KOT49H"
The main issue is, I cannot find 4.3 update anywhere on the internet
The MJB is your current firmware/bootloader build/version.
The build number displayed in settings only represents the rom, which is often different, and doesnt really matter to much.
From this post/thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52341560
Direct link to MJB firmware
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407590581
DocHoliday77 said:
The MJB is your current firmware/bootloader build/version.
The build number displayed in settings only represents the rom, which is often different, and doesnt really matter to much.
From this post/thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52341560
Direct link to MJB firmware
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407590581
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i have no idea what MJB means (i google'd it) and i just found out what my bootloader version is via download mode (its at the very bottom) and i have version 2.0?
ok downloading the giant file now. will report details. just follow instructions in the first link?
[sorry, like i said, im a noob so i really apologize for the lack of terms here]
MJB is just short for I747UCUEMJB. Sorry if I confused you. And the S/W revision being 2.0 is what Odin uses to know what firmware it is allowed to flash. In this case 2.0 tells odin it can flash the MJB firmware, or anything newer.
And yes, follow the instructions he posted and you should be fine.
Oh, and if you did not run the getprop command I posted before, please do so before flashing....just to be on the safe side. If it returns I747UCUEMJB, you are good to go. If it returns anything else, let me know before flashing.
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MJB is just short for I747UCUEMJB. Sorry if I confused you. And the S/W revision being 2.0 is what Odin uses to know what firmware it is allowed to flash. In this case 2.0 tells odin it can flash the MJB firmware, or anything newer.
And yes, follow the instructions he posted and you should be fine.
Oh, and if you did not run the getprop command I posted before, please do so before flashing....just to be on the safe side. If it returns I747UCUEMJB, you are good to go. If it returns anything else, let me know before flashing.
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Cool! Got it. I think that was my main problem. I could only find 4.0 (or 4.1) and have been trying to use that on ODIN. Perhaps that was the main issue....
Oh already ran it and got "I747UCUEMJB", sorry if didnt say it properly.
Really appreciate the help! Ive at this for days and no solutions. Sometimes the hacking/custom firmware isnt for everybody
Ill update what happens. Download is taking forever.
EDIT: BTW, for the first link, which poster am I gonna have to follow? im assuming "garbage guy"?
I though you did run the command already, but just wanted to be certain is all. For some reason AT&T stopped releasing their firmware, which has been causing all kinds of problems for people.
Anyway, it sounds like you are good to go! Good luck!
Oh, and if the firmware you're downloading is a .zip or .7z file, make sure you extract it first. Odin only flashes .tar and .tar.md5 files.
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I though you did run the command already, but just wanted to be certain is all. For some reason AT&T stopped releasing their firmware, which has been causing all kinds of problems for people.
Anyway, it sounds like you are good to go! Good luck!
Oh, and if the firmware you're downloading is a .zip or .7z file, make sure you extract it first. Odin only flashes .tar and .tar.md5 files.
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Thank you so much! It finally worked! I got the reset notification and I am now back on JB
Thank you! should I take any more steps to ensure I made a clean installation or am I good after flashing it?
david12795 said:
Thank you so much! It finally worked! I got the reset notification and I am now back on JB
Thank you! should I take any more steps to ensure I made a clean installation or am I good after flashing it?
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Weird, I went straight to update phone and it said my phone is up to date? I thought the official 4.4 update came out for the S3?
david12795 said:
Thank you so much! It finally worked! I got the reset notification and I am now back on JB
Thank you! should I take any more steps to ensure I made a clean installation or am I good after flashing it?
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Awesome!
really glad to hear that! The only thing I can think of thst you might want to do next is backing up your nv data. The following is a copy/past from a post I made a few min ago... root is required to fo this btw, just so you know.
(Since you are looking to update though, I recommend waiting till you have updated before rooting and running this backup)
It's a super simple procedure and will create an on device backup of your nv data. The backup will be stored on a couple of partitions we never touch, not even with firmware flashes. This essentially makes it a permanent backup. The cool thing about it is every time you reboot, the system checks for any corruption, and if detected, it will automatically restore from this backup. So if it were to ever happen, you probably wouldn't ever even notice it!
Install the Terminal Emulator from the play store. Open and enter this:
su
reboot nvbackup
Thats it! Device will reboot and create your backup. This should prevent you from ever suffering from a lost IMEI!
david12795 said:
Weird, I went straight to update phone and it said my phone is up to date? I thought the official 4.4 update came out for the S3?
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That has been released, but OTA's are generally rolled out in stages over several weeks. Usually done by region. So it msy not have started in your area just yet.
Two alternatives you can try though, install kies on your computer and update through that. Or there are a couple if threads in the General section that provide the ota for download.
Enewman17 has a few threads helping folks to update so I recommend checking them out as well.
Ive heard that some people have gone to best buy and they were able to initiate the update there. I dont know much more about this though.
DocHoliday77 said:
Awesome!
really glad to hear that! The only thing I can think of thst you might want to do next is backing up your nv data. The following is a copy/past from a post I made a few min ago... root is required to fo this btw, just so you know.
(Since you are looking to update though, I recommend waiting till you have updated before rooting and running this backup)
It's a super simple procedure and will create an on device backup of your nv data. The backup will be stored on a couple of partitions we never touch, not even with firmware flashes. This essentially makes it a permanent backup. The cool thing about it is every time you reboot, the system checks for any corruption, and if detected, it will automatically restore from this backup. So if it were to ever happen, you probably wouldn't ever even notice it!
Install the Terminal Emulator from the play store. Open and enter this:
su
reboot nvbackup
Thats it! Device will reboot and create your backup. This should prevent you from ever suffering from a lost IMEI!
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Thank you! I will look into this. I just figured for some reason...I would have some data left from cyanogenmod, if that makes sense. In other words, i want my phone to be as fresh as possible. I only ask this because when I had CM, i accidentally made a backup of it through rom manager (or clockwork) and I am not sure if its in my partition somewhere.
That has been released, but OTA's are generally rolled out in stages over several weeks. Usually done by region. So it msy not have started in your area just yet.
Two alternatives you can try though, install kies on your computer and update through that. Or there are a couple if threads in the General section that provide the ota for download.
Enewman17 has a few threads helping folks to update so I recommend checking them out as well.
Ive heard that some people have gone to best buy and they were able to initiate the update there. I dont know much more about this though.
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TIL that OTA arent as fast. Ill download KIES and give it a try.
Just installed KIES and it said my phone has the latest firmware?
david12795 said:
Thank you! I will look into this. I just figured for some reason...I would have some data left from cyanogenmod, if that makes sense. In other words, i want my phone to be as fresh as possible. I only ask this because when I had CM, i accidentally made a backup of it through rom manager (or clockwork) and I am not sure if its in my partition somewhere.
TIL that OTA arent as fast. Ill download KIES and give it a try.
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Factory resetting with stock recovery installed wipes all data except the external sdcard. I am so sorry I should've mentioned this before. I was thinking you had already done one at some point and didn't have anything left to worry about. Still, I should have asked and I do apologize for that. Hopefully if it was really important it was saved to the external sdcard....
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Just installed KIES and it said my phone has the latest firmware?
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Ok, I wasn't sure about that. I personally never need or use kies so I didn't know if it was tied to the staged rollouts. It would appear that it is though.
Give me a few min and ill post links to the threads where you can download the ota or update via a different method.
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UCUEMJB to UCUFNE4 firmware update - thread by enewman17
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2808654.
How to update SGH-I747 yo UCUFNE4_4.4.2 - thread by enewman17
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789917
[Download] AT&T Kitkat OTA file - thread by bkong
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788012
I suggest trying the third one by bkong first. He posted a pure OTA file you can try to update with.
The first option is a recovery flashable firmware, but does not include the /system (ROM) portion. To fully update using this you'll flash the firmware per his instructions and then go to his development thread for the stock rom. It is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788357
The second option is the OTA file, but it has been slightly modified to skip certain file checks. If the original OTA doesnt work, theres a good chance this will. (Since you are full stock now either one should flash without issue).
Hope those help! I recommend doing a bit of reading about each one (at least the OP and last few pages) and start with whichever you are most comfortable with.
Or, you could always use that most valuable tool, patience, and wait for the OTA to roll out for your area.
Good luck!
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Factory resetting with stock recovery installed wipes all data except the external sdcard. I am so sorry I should've mentioned this before. I was thinking you had already done one at some point and didn't have anything left to worry about. Still, I should have asked and I do apologize for that. Hopefully if it was really important it was saved to the external sdcard....
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. I personally never need or use kies so I didn't know if it was tied to the staged rollouts. It would appear that it is though.
Give me a few min and ill post links to the threads where you can download the ota or update via a different method.
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UCUEMJB to UCUFNE4 firmware update - thread by enewman17
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2808654.
How to update SGH-I747 yo UCUFNE4_4.4.2 - thread by enewman17
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789917
[Download] AT&T Kitkat OTA file - thread by bkong
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788012
I suggest trying the third one by bkong first. He posted a pure OTA file you can try to update with.
The first option is a recovery flashable firmware, but does not include the /system (ROM) portion. To fully update using this you'll flash the firmware per his instructions and then go to his development thread for the stock rom. It is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788357
The second option is the OTA file, but it has been slightly modified to skip certain file checks. If the original OTA doesnt work, theres a good chance this will. (Since you are full stock now either one should flash without issue).
Hope those help! I recommend doing a bit of reading about each one (at least the OP and last few pages) and start with whichever you are most comfortable with.
Or, you could always use that most valuable tool, patience, and wait for the OTA to roll out for your area.
Good luck!
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No no! Its fine, I wasnt planning using it or anything, I just wanted to get rid of it since I have no use for it, no need to apologize. , I was fully aware that I would lose all files, other than SD ext drive. I just wanted to make sure that all files are in the right place and none of the unnecessary files are taking up space (e.g. files from cyanogenmod)
As for the update, I talked to a samsung representative and they said one can go to Best Buy and get it updated there through a technician, so Ill try that later since I am close to it ATM. If it back fires, Ill try your suggestions.
I really do appreciate for the help , I have been completely lost for days but it turns out I was just using the wrong firmware. Thanks for pointing it out. Good karma is coming your way . Hopefully one day, I will be here again and trying out a new custom firmware.
Glad I could help!
If I remember right, someone who mentioned the best buy thing had said at the time that the first store they went to did not have the update yet. But I think they found another in their area did. So if they say its up to date and cant help, you might find another store close by can. (If there is one of course!)
Just fyi so you're not too surprised if that happens.
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Glad I could help!
If I remember right, someone who mentioned the best buy thing had said at the time that the first store they went to did not have the update yet. But I think they found another in their area did. So if they say its up to date and cant help, you might find another store close by can. (If there is one of course!)
Just fyi so you're not too surprised if that happens.
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Ill hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
Of course, if the worst happens, I can just use one of your links you mentioned. :good::good: