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Just curious what the verdict is there. I had no problem rooting my first one, but now I have a bunch of paid root apps to carry over and it would suck to not be rooted because they are shipping with a patch or something.
Does anyone know the answer?
I even if it ships with th latest OTA you should still be able to root it. I believe there is a thread in the dev section that explains how to root the newest version
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Sprockethead said:
Just curious what the verdict is there. I had no problem rooting my first one, but now I have a bunch of paid root apps to carry over and it would suck to not be rooted because they are shipping with a patch or something.
Does anyone know the answer?
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I'm running the latest OTA patch and I was able to root my Evo today. It's dead simple; it even has a video guide. Here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Yes, but I need Simple Root ha ha. Ok, well I'll go ahead and give it a shot, then.
Sprockethead said:
Yes, but I need Simple Root ha ha. Ok, well I'll go ahead and give it a shot, then.
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A video guide detailing every step is as simple as it gets . I have absolutely no knowledge in the inner workings of Android at all, but I got it all working.
Besides, I don't trust those three click root methods. They might miss an important step, neglect to permanently unlock the nand memory, etc.
Hello,
Just wondering if root is supported for 2.2 yet? I have not seen anything but also not sure if I have missed it.
thanks
dblake15 said:
Hello,
Just wondering if root is supported for 2.2 yet? I have not seen anything but also not sure if I have missed it.
thanks
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Not yet. I wish I knew more about how to find and expose exploits. I'm such a noob. I tried a bunch of old methods, but couldn't get any to quite work. I'm guessing that the Flash flaw should work, we just need to get a custom hack to exploit it in 2.2. I hope someone starts working on this soon. I did the update on purpose, but I wouldn't mind having root again. I can wait until then, just hope someone figures it out soon, because there will be a lot of people after the update looking to root, and I don't think that downgrading is going to be an option. I'm guessing most devs are waiting for the final release before they start hacking it.
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Not yet. I wish I knew more about how to find and expose exploits. I'm such a noob. I tried a bunch of old methods, but couldn't get any to quite work. I'm guessing that the Flash flaw should work, we just need to get a custom hack to exploit it in 2.2. I hope someone starts working on this soon. I did the update on purpose, but I wouldn't mind having root again. I can wait until then, just hope someone figures it out soon, because there will be a lot of people after the update looking to root, and I don't think that downgrading is going to be an option. I'm guessing most devs are waiting for the final release before they start hacking it.
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Why on Earth would you do the update on purpose when there are several threads posting rooted 2.2 installs here on XDA?
SteelH said:
Why on Earth would you do the update on purpose when there are several threads posting rooted 2.2 installs here on XDA?
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I had my reasons. I really don't care about root right now. The only thing I want root for now is to fix my PRI to be back to official, but since that isn't even possible yet, I decided to just update to completely stock without root. I don't use root enough to outweigh the possible security risks. I used to use it for tethering, but since I found out that I can turn tethering on and off and just pay for it prorated, its worth it. I just would rather pay and have it legally than have it free. And since I can do so affordably, I decided to just forget about it all together. Anyways, I'm willing to test a root method when someone comes out with one.
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I had my reasons. I really don't care about root right now. The only thing I want root for now is to fix my PRI to be back to official, but since that isn't even possible yet, I decided to just update to completely stock without root. I don't use root enough to outweigh the possible security risks. I used to use it for tethering, but since I found out that I can turn tethering on and off and just pay for it prorated, its worth it. I just would rather pay and have it legally than have it free. And since I can do so affordably, I decided to just forget about it all together. Anyways, I'm willing to test a root method when someone comes out with one.
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True, each has his own opinion and reasons. The rooted Froyo are still not fully functional at this point anyhow, that is one more thing that stops me from upgrading to it. I bought a phone with an 8mp camera for a reason. (granted it's no DSLR)
SteelH said:
I bought a phone with an 8mp camera for a reason. (granted it's no DSLR)
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To make phone calls?
gx1400 said:
To make phone calls?
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Well if that's all we all did, we'd still be using phones that came with a cord and a briefcase.
Fella's, there is froyo 2.2 rooted fully functioning. camera works, as well as 4G. i have my phone on 2.2 fully rooted and let me tell you, its 1000% better than 2.1. there is actually someone who already started making their own custom roms, but he posted the only 50% of the people reported that wifi tethering was working, but if you do the "STOCK WITH ROOT" it all works.
here is the link, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_ROMs
vwglli2007 said:
Fella's, there is froyo 2.2 rooted fully functioning. camera works, as well as 4G. i have my phone on 2.2 fully rooted and let me tell you, its 1000% better than 2.1. there is actually someone who already started making their own custom roms, but he posted the only 50% of the people reported that wifi tethering was working, but if you do the "STOCK WITH ROOT" it all works.
here is the link, enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Evo_ROMs
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good man for showing initiative. i think they are looking for a way to root the 2.2 OTA update. Not for a 2.2 that has been rooted already. 2 different fish to fry
Any consequences other than losing root? I'm not too concerned about getting it right this second since I know these devs at xda will cook somethin nice up in a few days. Just want to know my options. THanks
EDIT: im running dc 3.2.3 (2.1)
It should just flash the new ROM. Yes, you'll lose root and it probably replaces the bootloader so you can't boot into recovery either, but it should be just another stock phone after that.
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
yourfriendwayned said:
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
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I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
SantinoInc said:
I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
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hmmm yup I have the same root method - great I thought it would just write over...
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Im pretty bummed, also in the same boat.
jahnile said:
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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some of us dont care about loosing root, and as far as i knew i could at anytime upgrade to something sprint put out and all that would happen is i would loose root.
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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It doesn't matter what you did to root it, you can un-root the same way
I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
SantinoInc said:
Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
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hmm is this a trick... do I have to trade my soul?
SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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This is my position aswell. Im sure i read pleanty of people saying unrevoked would have no effect on future updates, and the worst that would happen was loosing root.
eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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Can you please list your steps for unrooting? I want to add the ota and reroot later.
Thanks,
Ian B
I had the june update so i was 1.47 but either way this is the program to use...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This in my opinion is the way to go...make sure you use the 1.47 one and you are good to go...then get the OTA FROYO...I did it this way.
I had Unrevoked3 on mine for wifi tethering..and did the manual leaked update (update.zip on sd card etc) and it worked just peachy, if you wanted to go that route. I did lost my root but none of my data (even superusers is still installed lol)
From what I read there isnt much of a difference between the .3 and .6 versions anyway
Maybe if you did that, then waited to see what HTC comes up with for us "early adopters" to get us up to speed lol
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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Did it change your H Boot Version?
mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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honestly, why did you do that??i just looked at androidcentral.com and the update doesnt fix anything special..anyway im sure a dev will have a rooted version soon..and just like he said, did it change the hboot?
You should always assume that an OTA update will break root (since it will not have Superuser installed) and that it may NAND Lock your phone (take away your S-OFF). If you want the update just wait around for a short time and a rooted version will appear here.
Well, try using an app that requires root permissions to see if it broke it, like titanium backup.
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Did it change your H Boot Version?
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Hboot version is 2.16.0001
It was not clear from your OP if you had already rooted and then took the OTA or you wanted to know if you could still root your phone.
That is the same Hboot as the previous OTA so you may still be able to root with Revolution if you have not already. If you did already root your phone you need to check to see if you still have S-OFF and a recovery that you can use to get CM loaded.
Boot to recovery (hold Vol - and Power button)
What version of HBoot is it?
Cardinal Rule:
Once rooted, never bother accessing the OTA section of your Sense ROM.
Sorry, I have never rooted and am a complete rooting noob.
[my reason is that I've had blown speakers, cracked screens, etc. and have had 5 different replacements from Sprint and don't want to void my warranty unless I can get it back to make it appear as though I've never rooted]
I did find that this Hboot version still seems to be supported with the new root methods. I have one real quick question, and I have a hard time sifting through the posts, threads, forums.
I want to root, flash a new ROM and want to be able to recover my stock Sprint ROM in case I need to send my phone back for the aforementioned issues. If I follow the root procedures and install Amon_RA's backup and backup the current ROM, I should be able to flash that ROM and get back to S-ON? or would I have to go through some procedure to get back S-ON?
Again, my apologies for posting what's been posted probably 1000 times, you can just link me to a thread....I haven't been successful in my searches for a definitive answer. And the "noob guide" sticky on the forum hasn't been updated to the new root methods, so I'm not sure what will brick me and what is usable.
yes, I will never OTA update after rooting, but in case I want to get back to a stock ROM from Sprint for warranty trade in purposes.
follow up noob question to rooting, all the proper radios and account information will be imported into my phone after flashing a new ROM? Or will I have to know specific radios, PRLs or basebands after I root. It's my primary device so I can't afford to be without.
Damn. Just rooted a few days ago under the assumption Sprint has moved on as far as supporting the EVO.... Dig root but I hope this doesn't create a problem when the update is forced on me.
You can always turn off auto update, and you can also hit cancel if the auto updater pops up. You do not Have to ever update your phone if you dont want to
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
m20120 said:
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
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*noob alert* Those normally appear in the Development forum, correct? Is there a particular title I should be looking for?
No offense, and I really mean that, but you should not root your phone if you are that worried about the consequences. If you aren't willing to accept that Sprint may be able to tell you rooted you phone then deny you warranty repairs just stick with what you have. Once you get past that point then its time to have some rooting fun.
Seriously though, everyone is going to tell you how great root is, but I bet 60% or better never actually do anything with their phone that would have required root to being with!
But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
mmark27 said:
But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
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Using older root methods (pre-Gingerbread), yes. But the new root method for GB/Hboot 2.16 installs a new, non-official hboot - 6.16. No one has been able to get the s-on tool to work or downgrade to a different hboot. You can flash an RUU that will take you back to stock, but you cannot gain s-on. Whether or not Sprint cares about the s-off 6.16 hboot, I don't know. Sprint is supposed to service rooted phones as long as the firmware is stock. If it's not, they'll RUU for you. You may have problems or you may not, kind of depends on who you deal with.
The revolutionary root method is still in a beta phase, what I believe they call a "developer preview" or something. Perhaps once it's released officially there will be an easy way to gain s-on.
I think that if you are worried about rooting or don't know why you would be rooting ("it seems cool" is not a legitimate reason) then you shouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
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my reason is that I'm sick of Sprint/HTC's flaky software that breaks things like wireless-n, my ability to stream music/contacts with my car stereo over bluetooth, icons constantly disappearing after reboot, Sense rebooting itself, etc. I don't care about its "cool" factor, I want control - its android, right? otherwise I'd just go get an ibone.
Thank you for that update on the 6.16 Hboot change and S-off/on status, its very helpful. Any thoughts on my question of new ROMs will know how to contact the Sprint network with all my information properly, or do I have to do something fancy to that.
I don't know...last month I couldn't root 2 or 3 weeks ago root pops up for GB 2.3.3 I rooted my phone and to tell you the truth I ain't gonna lie I'm still a noob when it comes to rooting...but I think once you try it yo ass ain't never goin back lol cuz I've been on CM7 this whole time and I'm blown away I'm gonna try out vaelpak RC2 tonight when I get home there's just so much you can do...but that's jus my opinion
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch, evO²·³·³
does anyone know what sense version this update is or is it still the crappy sense 1.0
My bootloader is still locked and I've never had root on this phone got it too late to unlock. I'd like to root and if I can get a custom recovery and flash a rom. Can anyone help?
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Gblake13 said:
My bootloader is still locked and I've never had root on this phone got it too late to unlock. I'd like to root and if I can get a custom recovery and flash a rom. Can anyone help?
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Right now, there is no way to root or unlock the bootloader in your situation. It sucks, but it's where we are.
Don't hold your breath for an exploit, either. Motorola/Verizon closed all known holes for BL-unlocking in the penultimate Jellybean OTA, and the only root method that worked in the last JB no longer works here.
Enough with the KK unlock and root threads.
I'm going to start reporting people that make these threads without doing some homework first.
If you have a locked bootloader, you're pretty much up the creek without a paddle. End of discussion
If there is an exploit available, trust me, you'll know about it.
gtmaster303 said:
Enough with the KK unlock and root threads.
I'm going to start reporting people that make these threads without doing some homework first.
If you have a locked bootloader, you're pretty much up the creek without a paddle. End of discussion
If there is an exploit available, trust me, you'll know about it.
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We can say this in every thread where they ask about root. We put warnings out prior to the OTA. Heck, we could probably put a sticky thread in this section about there being no root on KK, yet people will still ask. Why? Because they refuse to take 5 minutes to read through the other 37 KK related threads.
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We can say this in every thread where they ask about root. We put warnings out prior to the OTA. Heck, we could probably put a sticky thread in this section about there being no root on KK, yet people will still ask. Why? Because they refuse to take 5 minutes to read through the other 37 KK related threads.
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I of course can't speak for anyone else, but I knew the risks well before taking the update, and updated anyway.
I knew it was the very un-XDA thing to do, but frustration with the short battery life and UI lag on my phone was nearing a breaking point.
I tried to make the most of it; hence the "list of changes" thread, which hopefully has scared away locked users who are still n JB.
Any luck with a rootkeeper/root survival of any kind?
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Any luck with a rootkeeper/root survival of any kind?
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Haven't seen it yet.
Strife89 said:
I of course can't speak for anyone else, but I knew the risks well before taking the update, and updated anyway.
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My story is somewhat different. I tried to find a way to get rooted KK on my phone (trying to play junior hacker again), ended up soft-bricking my phone to where the only way to fix it was to flash stock KK using RSDLite (did try RSD'ing JB first, but my bootloader was having none of that).
So now I'm hopelessly stuck with a completely stock phone without root.
I feel like the only way to get past this is to attack it politically, like if every single Verizon XDA user banded together and flooded Verizon corporate inboxes with legitimate reasons why we need unlocked bootloaders.
Or maybe if someone is good friends with a politician who is more left of center and concerned about consumer rights over corporations. Maybe convince them that it's better for the environment because potentially millions of phones could be saved from going into landfills if we mandate companies must allow bootloader to be unlocked when certain conditions are fulfilled, like if a phone reaches 1-year of age.
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I of course can't speak for anyone else, but I knew the risks well before taking the update, and updated anyway.
I knew it was the very un-XDA thing to do, but frustration with the short battery life and UI lag on my phone was nearing a breaking point.
I tried to make the most of it; hence the "list of changes" thread, which hopefully has scared away locked users who are still n JB.
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I new I was losing root with it as well. I liked the features that KK brought with the update and still did it. The update finally got me using Smart Actions and I'm getting pretty decent battery life, nothing mind blowing, but pretty good. Buying a portable battery pack has pretty much solved the problem I had with nonroot. Now I can go about 2 days as long as I carry it around, lol. Luckily it's small.
if I have an unlocked BL, and the latest stock version on KK, how would I get root? Is it possible?
thanks.
Ahoalton said:
if I have an unlocked BL, and the latest stock version on KK, how would I get root? Is it possible?
thanks.
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Flash a custom recovery via fastboot, and then flash SuperSU zip in recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 <-- this thread (not saying it works) is getting popular with Motorola devices. I attempted it myself and got errors just like some other people. Only difference is they still had root and I don't. I suggest following the thread and seeing if it does someday work for us or somebody could attempt it themselves. I'm currently on windows 8.1 so that could be a problem.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 <-- this thread (not saying it works) is getting popular with Motorola devices. I attempted it myself and got errors just like some other people. Only difference is they still had root and I don't. I suggest following the thread and seeing if it does someday work for us or somebody could attempt it themselves. I'm currently on windows 8.1 so that could be a problem.
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^^^He doesn't need an exploit since he has an unlocked BL. Also, this has been checked on the M and HD family of devices, it WILL NOT work because the the current KK updates have already patched the hole that this exploit is meant to take advantage of.
Ahoalton said:
if I have an unlocked BL, and the latest stock version on KK, how would I get root? Is it possible?
thanks.
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Yes!.. Just use URL="http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/CWM6049-RAZR-HD_M-KITKAT.img"]custom recovery[/URL] and flash Superuser zip
And what about aka test points? Many Motorola models had such special test points using which you could get unlock of BL. How about our XT907? Any ideas about test points or shortcircuit of contacts?
No need now! Towelroot will root stock KK, and what magic it does allows Motopocalypse to unlock BL again.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/16/motorola-bootloader-unlock-razr-hd-towelroot/
Confirmed working!
Root and bootloader unlock!
Sent from my Droid RAZR M
GnatGoSplat said:
No need now! Towelroot will root stock KK, and what magic it does allows Motopocalypse to unlock BL again.
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Towel Root only allows the root access that Motopocalypse needs. The old trust zone was accidentally (or purposely) put back into this OTA, that's what Motopocalyse exploits.
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Towel Root only allows the root access that Motopocalypse needs. The old trust zone was accidentally (or purposely) put back into this OTA, that's what Motopocalyse exploits.
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Ah, I see. Good to know. :good: