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Hi guys, I've had a Bell-branded Desire Z (on AT&T's network) for some time now, but I've never gotten around to rooting / flashing a different ROM on it. Since I have some free time this weekend, I figure I'll finally tackle it. Have a few general questions though:
1) Is the method listed in the guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160 still the best method for rooting a desire Z? I've heard bad things about visionary, but every rooting method I've read seem to involve it in some way.
2) with S-OFF, am I free to flash any Desire Z / G2 ROM? or will only certain ROMs work with a Bell Desire Z? Any specific recommendation on ROMs? I'm planning on trying out CM7, then going from there
3) What is the best method for backing up my current image + a few other things (mostly contacts and SMS)? Titaniumbackup gets thrown around a lot, but I only have a handful of apps, and really would rather just redownload them then go through the trouble of backing them up
Thanks
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_G2:_Rooting
that is going to be your safest way to root your vision. eventhough this is longer, there is a lot less chance of bricking your phone. the one you listed is very simple to do, but runs a high risk of turning your phone into a paper weight.
when you do have your phone completely s off, you now have every right to flash kernels, roms, and other things. you can find all of the things i just listed over in the development forum on the g2/desire z. download rom manager from the market. that allows you to back up your current rom, flash the latest recovery and so on. it just allows you to not have to manually install everything. it has the popular g2 roms under the "download rom section".
in terms of backing up everything, there are a few different options. every contact to save is linked to your gmail account, so whatever rom you flash and load youll always have those contacts coming with you. thats the beauty of google and gmail on a android device! but with rom manager, you can back up your current rom and image with that app and save it to your sd card. BEFORE YOU FLASH ANY ROM, OR BEGIN TO START TRYING OUT ROMS, BACK UP YOUR STOCK ROM. whenever i got my g2 when it first came out, i made a nandroid backup of my stock rom and i still have it. when i originally backed it up, i just named it "stock" and havent messed with it since. i just know that i have the stock image(it helps me sleep at night). jk, heh. for your text messages and stuff, download sms backup from the market and you can back everything up through that. all of the apps that you download, including the paid ones of course, travel with you between roms, etc.
i hope i helped ya out, and i wish you luck. if you have any other questions, just shoot me a private message!
Thanks for that;
I actually went ahead and used that method in the guide since upon further research, it seems that visonary was only causing issues when it was use for perm root; temp root, which is what that method uses visionary for seems to work fine.
So did that, reboot into the bootloader, confirmed that I had S-OFF on the first line.
Installed ROM manager from the market
Flashed Clockwork recovery
Booted into recovery and did a system backup to SD card
Rebooted and decided to download the Virtuous ROM from ROM manager
Told it to reboot into recovery and flash that image, wiping all data and settings
Got stuck on an bootup loop (HTC logo + start up sound -> black screen -> HTC logo + startup sound ad infinitum)
Rebooted into recovery, and did a restore from the backup (whew)
Phone seems to be working fine now
Now I'm trying to figure out what went wrong... any ideas?
K, I redownloaded virtuous from XDA, checked the MD5, and tried to flash it again.
Same problem, infinite loop on startup screen.
Do i need to flash the engineering hboot? I was under the impression that that wasn't necessary for using custom ROMs.
Still can't figure out what's wrong.
did you debrand? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
Have you tried flashing through CWM directly? I really don't like ROM Manager for flashing new ROMs and seems to oversimplify the process to allow green users to get on the flashing wagon.
I would boot into CWM (camera + power i think) and do a complete wipe + flash from in there. I have never had an issue with doing things directly from recovery and I have a Bell DZ as well. It's long since lost it's blue and white colours, but that was it's origin
Have fun!
Im new to this stuff here, and i DO want to learn about it as this stuff is very interesting to me! Technology is something i learn very quickly if im directed in the correct direction
The question i have here is about my Desire Z ( Bell Cannada ).
A few months ago we received a OTA update. So its currently running on Android 2.2.1 : Build - 1.84.666.2 CL322105, and its SUPER slow! Is it still possible to root this version?
I want to install the Gingerbread version on my phone, but i cant find instructions to root this OS version to be able to do so.
Or should i wait till the Official gingerbread Os to come out for our phones?
Ive been searching every where's for this info and everything i find is all back dated to last yr and nothing up-to-date after the OTA.
I hope this question is not TOO n00bish as i tried to search every where for it, and ether i could not find it or i did not enter the correct word search to get a result i needed.
Thanks in advance!
Andrew
Edit: NVM my question here.... i have finally found an update post within the wiki ( April 1 2011 )
Sorry for a useless post!
Thank you all for your efforts in posting in this forum! Very informative!
Athrun88 said:
Have you tried flashing through CWM directly? I really don't like ROM Manager for flashing new ROMs and seems to oversimplify the process to allow green users to get on the flashing wagon.
I would boot into CWM (camera + power i think) and do a complete wipe + flash from in there. I have never had an issue with doing things directly from recovery and I have a Bell DZ as well. It's long since lost it's blue and white colours, but that was it's origin
Have fun!
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heh. that actually worked. Flashed directly from CWM recovery and it booted up with no issues.
Guess I know not to flash from ROM manager anymore
Thanks.
deaththeorist said:
did you debrand? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
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You do not need to debrand to flash custom ROMs to the Bell Canada Desire Z.
makken85 said:
heh. that actually worked. Flashed directly from CWM recovery and it booted up with no issues.
Guess I know not to flash from ROM manager anymore
Thanks.
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Interesting, I've flashed many ROMs from ROM Manager on my Bell Canada DZ, and never had an issue. That said, flashing from recovery is really not any harder, so if it works, it works.
redpoint73 said:
Interesting, I've flashed many ROMs from ROM Manager on my Bell Canada DZ, and never had an issue. That said, flashing from recovery is really not any harder, so if it works, it works.
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Yeah, I assumed that flashing from ROM manager just meant that it rebooted to recovery and flashed it from there. I guess there is a difference.
Either way, been playing with Virtuous 1.0.2 for a few days now, really like this ROM, but I'm itching to try out something different now. Man, I can see this is going to develop into a time consuming hobby.
Plus, I'm going to need a bigger SD card to store all of these ROMs + backup =X
Oh, another noob question; I've come across a few zip files that included a system folder and an META-INF folder. How exactly do I install these?
G2 only works with at&t
alright here it is my t-mobile G2 won't connect to the t-mobile network at all, I've went through 3 SIM cards because this thing use to kill the SIM card from working on other t-mobile phones and it works perfectly fine on at&t network. so I've unlocked so it will work on at&t just to see if it would work. so i gave p and bought a MT 4G, but i still want to know if the G2 is fixable because I'm just about ready to throw in the towel this is what I've tried to resolve the problem called t-mobile they ended up saying just return the phone but i can't since i didn't buy it from them. Called them again got the unlock code. I've flashed the radio a few times. I've also just got the leaked 2.3.3 update and nothing has worked. It find t-mobile network but says your SIM card isn't allowed to connect to this network then after trying again it says unable to connect to network please try again later.
Just so frustrating i don't know what to do just about to say forget it. this thread is my last resort.
also i still have S-OFF
i used this method on my G2 just yesterday and put on CM7.0.3. the only issues i came across were because i restored everything (should have just done apps and app data) using Titanium, which put me in a boot loop. I'm dumb, so i did it twice before i figured out what was the problem. the thread has a comment about how Visionary is dangerous, but the OP responded that since it is only used to gain temp root, there should be no problems.
So I've done some searching, and have yet to find a solution to the issue I'm having. GF's phone is the HTC Incredible as you can probably already guess by what subforum this is posted in. It's been running the CyanogenMod 7.1.0 Rom for quite some time alright. From everything I've seen, most people that have had issues with bootloops is because they have been flashing to a new rom/radio and skipped something/pulled the battery/or something along those lines. This phone has been running fine, and then out of nowhere I guess, started to restart itself continuously yesterday. I can get into HBOOT no problem, but that's about it. When I try to select Recovery, it just kicks right back into the bootloop. Anyone have any suggestions??? Phone isn't under warranty anymore, and her contract ends in a month and a half, so we don't want to have to buy a new phone before then if at all possible.
try reflashing recovery.
first start with a freshly formatted FAT32 sd card, download this file and place it on it
http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/CWM_5.0.2.0/PB31IMG.zip
this should be the only file on your SD card. now turn off your phone and put the sd card in. now boot into hboot (vol down+power) and it should prompt you to update by pressing vol up. do this and when it boots back into hboot, remove the sd card and delete the file. then try booting into recovery
Tried it and still no change
there was a similar situation (stangely similar ) here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628585
both cases happened to be running cm 7 too...and randomly started boot looping and stuck with no recovery.
i would read through that thread and see if any of the steps will help you
Just read threw it all, and everything sounds exactly like it does in my case. That one ended up not so well. Do I just assume that this one is done as well???
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Just read threw it all, and everything sounds exactly like it does in my case. That one ended up not so well. Do I just assume that this one is done as well???
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you can try doing the steps in that thread. you may have better luck. Perhaps someone else on this board knows of another method that may help
Just because it didnt work for that guy, dosent mean it wont work for you. Are you s-off? Have you tried reflashing recovery yet?
it's S-Off and I've tried to reflash recovery
How about an ruu?
tried that. tried through the pc and the computer wouldn't recognize it. tried by updating it in HBOOT, and after the update, it would still just bootloop
Sounds like another possible hardware failure. My only other sugestion would be to try the fastboot flash of the misc img, but it probably wont work either. Its very strange, i have seen this 4 or 5 times now in the past couple months, all on cm7, and all unfixable. I dont want to start a war, but mabey something with cm7 or cm7 and a certain program or combination of programs, is causing this. Or mabey its just cause these phones are getting up there in age.
i too find it odd each one is cm7..
Well thanks for all the help anyways. A new phone it is I guess
the basic problem is CM 7 (for the Dinc). it is extremely common. i have seen it happen to so many people now. it drives me insane when i see people suggesting CM 7 "stable" to others (for the Dinc). i have tried to communicate this here and other places too... i have given up hope of people ever accepting this obvious situation. the "stable" version of CM 7 is simply not stable.
however...
a reflash of clockwork recovery has always gotten people out of the CM 7 bootloop. then they are able to get a working rom installed.
i don't understand why you can't get a recovery re-flashed.
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I simply have done all i can - and it seems that i cant do it right. Please consider to help me, because im noob.
Before i state my problem i should say that i have googled an crossed xda forum for 4 days and without any improvement.
Problem I have is that, my phone randomly reboots at no particular time or place - but here come the details:
First, for purpose of unlocking phone from SIM lock from carrier, it was S-OFFed and rooted by someone else (previous owner).
Rom was installed - Oxygen 2.3.2. and it worked for few months without bugs.
Then, one day it restarted and stuck in bootloops, but it came up for few seconds, or some time (but not for long), and then again restarted and so on. Eventually it held enough to do a factory reset which generally helped, but with one strange thing - clock couldnt sync and loosed about an hour for 5-6 hours (really strange).
Then i decided to try some other ROM hoping to resolve clock issue.
When I go into HBOOt it says:
--- AlphaRev ---
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010 17:52:10
Then i went here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...p?t=1315961URL and done REALLY step by step whole procedure.
ROM was installed, along with -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408936
It worked flawllessly for about half an hour an then started rebooting on no particular action - sometimes went up for some time few secs to 10-20 mins an then reboot and sometimes it got stuck in endless loop (only pulling the battery helped).
Since it went wrong, i tried to RESTORE previosly made BACKUP of mentioned OXYGEN ROM, but sadly, same thing happened all the time.
I was devasteted, didnt know what to do so I decided to get back to STOCK ROM via RUU. (thought it would solve the problem)
I used RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.14_Radio_32.49.00 .32U_5.11.05.27_release_224699_signed
Phone stayed S-OFF (obviosly for AlphaRev HBOOT) but have been preety stable comparing what was happening before, in terms: restarted few times for a day and allways rebooted back. Then i inserted other SIM card ant it began again with restarts as soon it went up and been up for 10-20 secs. After few reboots, it stabilised, but had different problem: couldnt add new account, and couldnt remove one I set up at the beginning (message said that i should do FACTORY reset if i want account removed). So I did factory reset - and NOTHING HAPPENED - evrything stayed exactly as it was - with account and everything.
Then i came across BORTAKs Guide ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632 and followed step one, although it doesnt exactly match my probs - in terms that my phone boots up most of the time, but restarts randomly...
So I did what I was supposed to do and installed CyanogenMod after following step 10 Amon Ra's Recovery (I have PVT4 device) but same thing continues to happen - reboots, apparently on trying to add account on phone...
SORRY FOR SUCH LONG POST, but Im out of ideas, and new to this so PLEASE< PLEASE HELP me if u somehow can...
Thanks in advice
goxyendzy said:
I simply have done all i can - and it seems that i cant do it right. Please consider to help me, because im noob.
Before i state my problem i should say that i have googled an crossed xda forum for 4 days and without any improvement.
Problem I have is that, my phone randomly reboots at no particular time or place - but here come the details:
First, for purpose of unlocking phone from SIM lock from carrier, it was S-OFFed and rooted by someone else (previous owner).
Rom was installed - Oxygen 2.3.2. and it worked for few months without bugs.
Then, one day it restarted and stuck in bootloops, but it came up for few seconds, or some time (but not for long), and then again restarted and so on. Eventually it held enough to do a factory reset which generally helped, but with one strange thing - clock couldnt sync and loosed about an hour for 5-6 hours (really strange).
Then i decided to try some other ROM hoping to resolve clock issue.
When I go into HBOOt it says:
--- AlphaRev ---
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010 17:52:10
Then i went here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...p?t=1315961URL and done REALLY step by step whole procedure.
ROM was installed, along with -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1408936
It worked flawllessly for about half an hour an then started rebooting on no particular action - sometimes went up for some time few secs to 10-20 mins an then reboot and sometimes it got stuck in endless loop (only pulling the battery helped).
Since it went wrong, i tried to RESTORE previosly made BACKUP of mentioned OXYGEN ROM, but sadly, same thing happened all the time.
I was devasteted, didnt know what to do so I decided to get back to STOCK ROM via RUU. (thought it would solve the problem)
I used RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.14_Radio_32.49.00 .32U_5.11.05.27_release_224699_signed
Phone stayed S-OFF (obviosly for AlphaRev HBOOT) but have been preety stable comparing what was happening before, in terms: restarted few times for a day and allways rebooted back. Then i inserted other SIM card ant it began again with restarts as soon it went up and been up for 10-20 secs. After few reboots, it stabilised, but had different problem: couldnt add new account, and couldnt remove one I set up at the beginning (message said that i should do FACTORY reset if i want account removed). So I did factory reset - and NOTHING HAPPENED - evrything stayed exactly as it was - with account and everything.
Then i came across BORTAKs Guide ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275632 and followed step one, although it doesnt exactly match my probs - in terms that my phone boots up most of the time, but restarts randomly...
So I did what I was supposed to do and installed CyanogenMod after following step 10 Amon Ra's Recovery (I have PVT4 device) but same thing continues to happen - reboots, apparently on trying to add account on phone...
SORRY FOR SUCH LONG POST, but Im out of ideas, and new to this so PLEASE< PLEASE HELP me if u somehow can...
Thanks in advice
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Did you try to run RUU after flashing Alpharev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain, or you just ran it over Alpharev stock?
Also did you try to format sd card or to remove it from phone and than to boot it up?
It all seems like it was SIM unlocked by a "fake" code so that are the issues that can happen.
Plus: to gain SIM unlock you don't need S-off and root.
nlooooo said:
Did you try to run RUU after flashing Alpharev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain, or you just ran it over Alpharev stock?
Also did you try to format sd card or to remove it from phone and than to boot it up?
It all seems like it was SIM unlocked by a "fake" code so that are the issues that can happen.
Plus: to gain SIM unlock you don't need S-off and root.
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I ran it over Alpharev... Im really new to this so i ask for help.
U say that i should:
1) flash AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain (HOW exactly? please link to some guide if exists)
2) then run RUU
I tried formatting SD card later, removed it, even change card and latest ROM (Cyanogen) is on other SD card and its all the same...
Thanks for fast reply
goxyendzy said:
I ran it over Alpharev... Im really new to this so i ask for help.
U say that i should:
1) flash AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON gain (HOW exactly? please link to some guide if exists)
2) then run RUU
I tried formatting SD card later, removed it, even change card and latest ROM (Cyanogen) is on other SD card and its all the same...
Thanks for fast reply
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Yes, both steps. With that you will overwrite both hboot and radio to stock ones, that could be the things that made you problems. You will get S-on after flashing of RUU (I recomend 2.3) when your hboot is overwritten.
This is a good guide how to use ADB and fastboot (you will need fastboot for flashing of hboot):
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...fastboot-windows-updated-1st-june-2011-a.html
But reading your post I think that the problem is with unlocking (SIM). If a guy that sold you the phone said he did it with S-off and root he is laying, as I told you it can't be done with that. The problem can occur when you unlock the phone with a "fake code" that actually removes the part of phone's software used to check for carrier and not replacing critical parts (something like that).
There's a tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726
Try to run it and see what you will get.
nlooooo said:
Yes, both steps. With that you will overwrite both hboot and radio to stock ones, that could be the things that made you problems. You will get S-on after flashing of RUU (I recomend 2.3) when your hboot is overwritten.
This is a good guide how to use ADB and fastboot (you will need fastboot for flashing of hboot):
http://androidforums.com/desire-all...fastboot-windows-updated-1st-june-2011-a.html
But reading your post I think that the problem is with unlocking (SIM). If a guy that sold you the phone said he did it with S-off and root he is laying, as I told you it can't be done with that. The problem can occur when you unlock the phone with a "fake code" that actually removes the part of phone's software used to check for carrier and not replacing critical parts (something like that).
There's a tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726
Try to run it and see what you will get.
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Thanks in advance, ill try everything when i setup everything properly. Will update on progress! :good:
OK, at fisrt I have removed both SIM and SD cards and then:
1) flashed AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON
2) then run RUU
Inserted only SIM card, and for now without reboots - but this was only 15 mins ago, so ill keep informing about case after testing, in hope not to get another reboot ever.
What I realised is thatr I dont have recovery?
Is this supposed to be? And how will I resolve problem If something unwanted occur?
Thanks a lot for Your help!
goxyendzy said:
OK, at fisrt I have removed both SIM and SD cards and then:
1) flashed AlphaRev downgrade to achieve S-ON
2) then run RUU
Inserted only SIM card, and for now without reboots - but this was only 15 mins ago, so ill keep informing about case after testing, in hope not to get another reboot ever.
What I realised is thatr I dont have recovery?
Is this supposed to be? And how will I resolve problem If something unwanted occur?
Thanks a lot for Your help!
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You have recovery, but it is stock one (pretty different to custom ones ).
Now after you flashed 2.3 RUU you probably have 1.02 hboot, so go here:
revolutionary.io
Download the tool and follow the process described to achieve s-off and root again (the problem you have have nothing connected with s-off and root but probably with some parts of system software which might be recovered now). During the process you will flash Clockworkmod recovery, from which you will install Superuser.apk. After that reboot the phone and go here:
4ext.net
Download Recovery updater, install it to your phone and flash 4ext recovery. Than from recovery you can restore backup you have from your old rom, but my suggestion is to go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
and find something for you, cause I think that you have to start from scratch to have a proper software (cause you already had problems with previous one).
If you're up to Oxygen again go here:
http://download.oxygen.im/roms/
but I think that there are a few roms on previous link that are based on Oxygen, but a little bit modified with some extra options.
Well, thanks really, but for now I would like to live things as they are...
I dont mind beeng S-ON and not rooted, if phone doesnt reboot again. I just need it functioning, without advanced options.
Are U suggesting that STOCK ROM is not the way I should go?
goxyendzy said:
Well, thanks really, but for now I would like to live things as they are...
I dont mind beeng S-ON and not rooted, if phone doesnt reboot again. I just need it functioning, without advanced options.
Are U suggesting that STOCK ROM is not the way I should go?
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It's the way I went for a long time until I started experimenting, mostly because a lack of space. After that I found the thread I posted (All things desire) and wanted to try some advanced roms (Sense 3.0, 3.5) even made some stuff on my own on that way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23101063#post23101063
My opinion is that stock roms are the best solution foe our device, cause it runs smoothest and I think that Sense is something that brings HTC devices above all other android devices. I've never been a fan of AOSP software but I tried it, just to see how it feels. I even used MIUI rom for some time as the first software option.
Anyway, the story with memory problem stays, but the main point for getting s-off and root again are diagnostic and flashing options cause on s-off device you can flash all crucial partitions that can cause problems (hboot and radio-see attachment) and change partition table layout to gain space (see alpharev.nl)
I hope I helped!
nlooooo said:
It's the way I went for a long time until I started experimenting, mostly because a lack of space. After that I found the thread I posted (All things desire) and wanted to try some advanced roms (Sense 3.0, 3.5) even made some stuff on my own on that way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23101063#post23101063
My opinion is that stock roms are the best solution foe our device, cause it runs smoothest and I think that Sense is something that brings HTC devices above all other android devices. I've never been a fan of AOSP software but I tried it, just to see how it feels. I even used MIUI rom for some time as the first software option.
Anyway, the story with memory problem stays, but the main point for getting s-off and root again are diagnostic and flashing options cause on s-off device you can flash all crucial partitions that can cause problems (hboot and radio-see attachment) and change partition table layout to gain space (see alpharev.nl)
I hope I helped!
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Since there are no reboots yet (I really hope its in past) U have been more than helpful! :good:
I still havent inserted sd card, and been consedering of getting a new one (with higher speed).
Also, as I see that U R my countryman (ko ce kome ako ne svoj svome), U have earned a few drinks when U come to my town!
I will be updating how things are regarding of this case.
Cheers :highfive:
goxyendzy said:
Since there are no reboots yet (I really hope its in past) U have been more than helpful! :good:
I still havent inserted sd card, and been consedering of getting a new one (with higher speed).
Also, as I see that U R my countryman (ko ce kome ako ne svoj svome), U have earned a few drinks when U come to my town!
I will be updating how things are regarding of this case.
Cheers :highfive:
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No problem, I'm holding you for your word!
If you have no reboots try to insert different carriers sim cards and see if it's still unlocked.
reboots again
nlooooo said:
No problem, I'm holding you for your word!
If you have no reboots try to insert different carriers sim cards and see if it's still unlocked.
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Reboots again...
After half a day of normal usage, I tried inserting another SIM (but from same carrier) and it started again...
Not so often but from time to time it reboots.
So I guess, at the end it seems it is hardware fault.
One strange thing thou (and it makes me wonder): When I try removing account it says I should do Factory Reset if I want to change that basic acc. But afrer performing Factory Reset NOTHING happens? Account is still there, along with other settings and/or installed apps.
Any ideas?
Invitation still holds
Hello and good afternoon,
I received this Xperia Arc (LT15a) from my dad to fix and I can't get it worked out so here it is
When you unlock the phone the screen responds to touch, I can swipe back and forth as one would expect. If you keep your finger on the screen or touch it atleast every second the screen stays responsive. If however you stop using the screen, sometimes for 10 seconds most the time just 1 second and the screen will no longer respond. In order to get the screen to respond you have to lock the device and unlock it again, as if refreshing it or restarting the touch screen service in the phone is the fix... temporarily.
I saw a thread somewhat like this and the fix was to downgrade to make sure no bad firmware had been put on so I downgraded to the 4.0.2.A.0.42 that the phone shipped with. This didn't solve the issue. I tried all sorts of firmwares thinking perhaps one would work. My dad tells me that this started happening when he updated the phone to 4.0.4 through the Sony upgrade software.
Has anyone run into this or do you guys believe this is more likely to be a hardware problem (which seems strange because I would think the screen should either work or not)
Thank in advance.
Hi @Laydas,
This is a weird one, for sure.
I've seen something similar on my phone, and for me the problem was definitely linked to an "upgrade / downgrade" kind of thing.
My solution was to install another rom.
So now I guess your bootloader is locked (because the phone is not rooted).
So the best thing to do is to try flashing a stock rom using "flashtool".
Here's some pointers to help you on your way...
Try this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304634
you're looking for info on flashtool, and on stock roms (I think that some stock roms are available in post 2 of the thread)
On top of that, there is an older thread (so a bit outdated) here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133650
It has good background reading thread to get a grip on all the ideas involved.
Good luck
I forgot to mention that I had already rooted the phone
I have used flashtool to restore the stock rom which didn't solve the issue either.
I have now taken the phone apart to check for loose connections, everything looked good.
I put the phone back together, tried it out, I still have the same screen issue.
Laydas said:
I forgot to mention that I had already rooted the phone
I have used flashtool to restore the stock rom which didn't solve the issue either.
I have now taken the phone apart to check for loose connections, everything looked good.
I put the phone back together, tried it out, I still have the same screen issue.
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OK, wow. This problem is really sticking around.
So my next question is: - Do you have an unlocked bootloader?
If yes, then try flashing a custom kernel and a custom rom.
My favourite ICS based rom is JJ's Hybrid - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1537717&highlight=jj+hybrid
It works 100% with the ArcKnight kernel.
If your bootloader is locked, then you cannot flash a custom kernel. You can still try try the JJ Hybrid rom to see if it sorts out the problem.
At this point I'm running out of ideas. For me this issue was software related, so flashing a different kernel and rom fixed my problem.
It seems like your issue is software related too (because it popped up after an upgrade), but if you flash a rom and a kernel, then there's not much else that you can try flashing,,,
OK, maybe there's also a base-band you can try flashing - There's a base-band thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688049
So try a custom rom and a custom kernel, and if that fails try updating your baseband to 72 or 77.
That's all I can think of to completely overhaul your phone's software.
Please let me know how it goes...
Take care,
Hotfingers
The bootloader is locked on this phone unfortunately.
This phone is not like my other phones, even trying to get a custom rom onto it is a hassle as installs from zips in CWM almost always fail.
Pushing roms from flashtool works but I couldn't find the JJ hybrid rom in a ftf format for flashtool.
At this point I will continue trying to get a custom rom onto this phone when I have time but it has dropped off my priority list as it is being so difficult haha.
Thanks for the help, hopefully sometime next week I will be able to go through some of these steps and get back to this post on what helped
Laydas said:
The bootloader is locked on this phone unfortunately.
This phone is not like my other phones, even trying to get a custom rom onto it is a hassle as installs from zips in CWM almost always fail.
Pushing roms from flashtool works but I couldn't find the JJ hybrid rom in a ftf format for flashtool.
At this point I will continue trying to get a custom rom onto this phone when I have time but it has dropped off my priority list as it is being so difficult haha.
Thanks for the help, hopefully sometime next week I will be able to go through some of these steps and get back to this post on what helped
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OK, thanks for the feedback. This isdefinitely weird...
So 2 days ago a friend bought an HTC Desire HD. It was working fine, but since it was second hand he wanted to hard reset it, and so he did. After he did that it started doing what I am showing in the video below(but it was with an older version, gingerbread I think). It was also going in CWM 10 sec after it was put into a charger. After I tried installing custom roms and roots, I installed what is said to be a stock ruu:
RUU_Ace_Sense30_S_HTC_WWE_3.12.405.1_Radio_12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M_release_225512_signed
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It is obviously(visually) a newer version of the software the phone uses, than the one it had when he first gave the phone to me.
Nothing seems to have worked at this point, I'm desperate. After that 4th option of the setup(scheduled sync) it just goes black screen with a status bar and nothing. When he first gave it to me it used to display an error that said something like setup couldn't load, and with options to close it, wait for it, or tell HTC about it. It CAN receive SMS and calls, but there just isn't any GUI(menu, or whatever it's called).
I'm also providing a picture of the bootloader below.
I don't need the phone to be rooted or with any particular ROM or version, I just need it working normally.
Any help/assistance will be welcome! Thanks in advance
VIDEO:
youtube.com/watch?v=aNI1t4KjY-0&feature=youtu.be
youtube.com/watch?v=aNI1t4KjY-0&feature=youtu.be
Just makes it easier to click on it. :beer:
Edit: Try booting without the sd card, but aside from that, no idea.
You can also try flashing a stable gb rom see if you get the same issue.
Sent from a dream.
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If you already have s-off and cwm, why not just flash rooted stock rom? It should work fine if the rom can be flashed successfully.
If it is not, it is most probably hardware issues, although i am not so sure myself.
yumm91 said:
If you already have s-off and cwm, why not just flash rooted stock rom? It should work fine if the rom can be flashed successfully.
If it is not, it is most probably hardware issues, although i am not so sure myself.
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As I said, before installing the newest stock ruu(with which I lost cwm and can''t seem to get it back), I installed some custom roms, all of them with the same effect. But thanks for the suggestion.
iLoveAlkohola said:
As I said, before installing the newest stock ruu(with which I lost cwm and can''t seem to get it back), I installed some custom roms, all of them with the same effect. But thanks for the suggestion.
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Make a full wipe before flashing the Ruu. Flash a custom recovery in fastboot, do a full wipe, then flash a ROM (stock or custom) To see what happens
Already did all that. When I first got the phone I used the full wipe function of cwm(and of the stock recovery) a couple of times, but every time it was stuck at that point of the initial setup with the error showing up.
Is there a file SPECIFICALLY for the initial setup that I can flash to the phone, because I flashed different recoveries, roms, boots and even radios manually before installing the stock ruu. I haven't set up a phone before, so I'm not sure, but as I can see there are still 2 or 3 options left to select ,after that scheduled sync option, before the phone could run the main menu(gui or whatever).
Oh, and btw, when I updated it with that ruu, the setup visually changed and by that I figure out it gets flashed as part of the ruu, but still with the same problem. Can it be some kind of hardware problem of the internal memory? No matter how much I searched and where I looked I never found someone with a problem even close to this one.
Teichopsia said:
Edit: Try booting without the sd card, but aside from that, no idea.
You can also try flashing a stable gb rom see if you get the same issue.
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Whatever I was doing to the phone it didn't usually have an sdcard in it and was booting without an sd card, tried with and without, no changes.
After I installed that sense ruu i can't seem to get back to gb, any ideas how to do it? I also can't get cwm to work now, even though it flashes without any error or problem I can only ge the htcdev root(already did) with this ruu, I think but I don't get any changes except that there is a watermark on the first line of bootloader.