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Apple V Samsung... Apple won big... boo

Editing to reflect proper dumb damages: 1.05 bn (pending)
20 to 21 hours of deliberations is a little fast for such a complicated case me thinks...
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No they didn't .... both kinda won and lost
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the US trial, not the Korean trial
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Yea to be fair I just saw. .. they lost lol
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$2.3 billion? Try $1.051 billion.
Still bad.

nope it's 2.3
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unless CNET is wrong...
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my bad, CNET is wrong.... bad math
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$1,051,855,000

And they come for newer phones like the gn next. Hopefully with less success. Pretty frustrating....really seems like a jury caught in apple fever.
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jimmyhook said:
my bad, CNET is wrong.... bad math
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Yes, yes they are.

can't believe this...why doesn't somebody sue apple?they act like they have invented everything in the mobile industry,they are suing everybody...give me a break...

Yeah, that blows. Its just going to fuel the apple machine to sue more and more and more. They will just keep suing in this same district where Apple and jobs are the second coming of Christ until they do get all major competing phones blocked. I just hope Motorola hits apple hard.
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tomikoran2 said:
can't believe this...why doesn't somebody sue apple?they act like they have invented everything in the mobile industry,they are suing everybody...give me a break...
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People are suing (and have sued) Apple.

Because most of the jury, the judge and even both lawyers are probably using iPhone
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jimmyhook said:
2.3 billion... crap.
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(I'M NOT APPLE FANBOY)
Have you seen the galaxy tab's UI in the settings menu. It's a direct copy of the ipad.
Also why wasn't Google Android sued as well? Because every android phone is literally the same in system.:silly:
Why dont samsung just stop copying apple...it's not hard to do it. Such as Svoice that is just stupid copying Siri. I think samsung are just doing it on purpose because Svoice layout and look of it, is just a blatant copy for siri.

I hate Apple so much....
I didn't until all this crap happened I just said it wasn't for me.
now I would never ever support them in any way no matter what
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fayosi said:
(I'M NOT APPLE FANBOY)
Have you seen the galaxy tab's UI in the settings menu. It's a direct copy of the ipad.
Also why wasn't Google Android sued as well? Because every android phone is literally the same in system.:silly:
Why dont samsung just stop copying apple...it's not hard to do it. Such as Svoice that is just stupid copying Siri. I think samsung are just doing it on purpose because Svoice layout and look of it, is just a blatant copy for siri.
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they don't copy them...
Ugh I owned a skyrocket before this, there are no similarities.
obviously people who claim this crap haven't actually used one

This is absolutely ridiculous.
I don't understand how things like pinch to zoom can even be patented in the first place.

jordache16 said:
I don't understand how things like pinch to zoom can even be patented in the first place.
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This is what needs to be highlighted. If it wasn't Apple patenting this, it would be someone else. We need to realize that it's the patent system that's messed up allowing companies to patent these things in the first place. You can't blame Apple for trying this. It's in their best financial interest to do so.

Iphone 5 benchmarks are in

Apparently it's just marginally faster then the USA version of the sgs3.
But not if you are oc.
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/16...cpu/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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Samsung needs to do something big if this is the case
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js2021 said:
Samsung needs to do something big if this is the case
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Not really... if this thing is only marginally faster than the USA version (not Exynos), then the international is probably already better. In that respect, it's safe to assume anyway that Samsung will obviously release a way faster S4 anyway.
Also S3 was released a couple months back meanwhile this was released just recently and processor is only marginally faster? Granted, Apple only made it as fast as it needed to be probably

The table doesn't show the US s3, it shows the international with the quad core exynos

My results OCd
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Can someone please reply to the comments on that page with our scores?
Waiters, please go show them

Lol at the comments on that page. Never seen so many apple fanatics in one place.. then I saw the site name...

jefferson9 said:
Never seen so many apple fanatics in one place.. then I saw the site name...
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Good for apple, they've finally caught up. Screen is still tiny though lol

How did the hox score so low? Something doesn't seem right?
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So what!! Who cares if it scores higher in a synthetic benchmark. Does it make you enjoy your SGS3 less?

Well, I idk if the iphone 5 (technically 6 but who's counting) is the fastest smartphone, but it is the fastest phone running iOS. Put iOS (god forbid) on my S3 or Android on the ip 5 and my S3 will run circles around it.
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Also, how can you compare a java based app vs an objective C based app on performance? That's just stupid. Come up with some benchmarks that actually make sense then I will believe it.
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This is pretty sad. The gs2 with exynos was way faster than the us gs3.
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justinblaine23 said:
This is pretty sad. The gs2 with exynos was way faster than the us gs3.
Please hit thanks if I helped! Sent from my GS3
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Yea,I don't quite trust that benchmark tool.
Anyways, cracks me up,I thought the benchmark whores on this site were bad. Man, this guys win one bench and they are going nuts. It was hilarious reading through the comments, all those guys last year were saying that benchmark don't matter and they are always incorrect now they are the most accurate tool in the world. Everyone knows benchmark are useless, I got my inside to benchmark insane numbers by tweaking just a few things. I want to see side by side comparisons, then a definitive conclusion can be drawn
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if you want to discuss the iphone,head over to pur sister site, iphone-developers.com

Project Roadrunner? 4.2

Has anybody heard of this? I did a quick lazy glance here and didn't see it posted so I thought I would. Looks pretty amazing with new features and improving Gnow and improved battery life for Android users. Of course the main concern is in order for us to experience we might have to switch phones or of course wait on our devs to do their amazing work. Thoughts??
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...omization-center-project-roadrunner-and-more/
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It looks great! It's highly unlikely that we will get it officially. But there is hope to get it unofficially.. Or at least pieces of it!
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You mean to tell me you guys are still gonna be t989 owners by the time 4.2 even touches this device?? Lol I'll be long gone by then.
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RushAOZ said:
You mean to tell me you guys are still gonna be t989 owners by the time 4.2 even touches this device?? Lol I'll be long gone by then.
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I always keep a backup device. I still have my Vibrant as a backup. And it is running JB now. No one even thought users would stay active after GB.
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RushAOZ said:
You mean to tell me you guys are still gonna be t989 owners by the time 4.2 even touches this device?? Lol I'll be long gone by then.
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To be honest I have no idea if I will but if it's still holding up I might be. Either way I'll probably still own it and use it for a backup! Unless It's lost or breaks I don't replace my phone every year.. I got mine in March which makes it only about 7 months since I first bought it
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RushAOZ said:
You mean to tell me you guys are still gonna be t989 owners by the time 4.2 even touches this device?? Lol I'll be long gone by then.
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Lol I know what you mean. But this s2 isn't just any phone, it was built for things beyond what it came with. All I'm saying is if you want this new OS then of course Nexus will be the phone of choice not Samsung and etc. But this phone is good for 2 years in my opinion. I'm also cheap and don't switch phones every few months or every year lol
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Understood lol I have a bad habit of not having back up phones. Fortunately I've never needed one. Let's hope it stays that way!
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RushAOZ said:
You mean to tell me you guys are still gonna be t989 owners by the time 4.2 even touches this device?? Lol I'll be long gone by then.
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Look at the HTC HD2. It only had Windows Mobile 6. Now it has JB, WP7, Ubuntu, and soon to be Windows 8/WP8.

pwner5889 said:
Look at the HTC HD2. It only had Windows Mobile 6. Now it has JB, WP7, Ubuntu, and soon to be Windows 8/WP8.
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Your point? We all have to move on at some point. By the time this phone gets 4.2 we'll have some really amazing devices on the market that will make this phone seem like it was from the stone age. Just like this phone makes that HD2 seem like its from the stone age. Idk how people are still using that thing. That snapdragon CPU was a boat compared to other SoCs like hummingbird during its time.
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RushAOZ said:
Your point? We all have to move on at some point. By the time this phone gets 4.2 we'll have some really amazing devices on the market that will make this phone seem like it was from the stone age. Just like this phone makes that HD2 seem like its from the stone age. Idk how people are still using that thing. That snapdragon CPU was a boat compared to other SoCs like hummingbird during its time.
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I think my next one will be a nexus.. There should be some nice ones coming out soon..
I was thinking.. I'm sure that the galaxy Nexus is a shoe in to get 4.2 and if it can handle the software I am sure that this phone can too!.. It's unlike that tmobile will put in the resources to update this phone after JB but it might be a slim possibility.. Especially since we will have the option whether or not to have OEM skins
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rymanh said:
I think my next one will be a nexus.. There should be some nice ones coming out soon..
I was thinking.. I'm sure that the galaxy Nexus is a shoe in to get 4.2 and if it can handle the software I am sure that this phone can too!.. It's unlike that tmobile will put in the resources to update this phone after JB but it might be a slim possibility.. Especially since we will have the option whether or not to have OEM skins
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Officially I don't think this phone is getting past ICS. I have high doubts about an official TW JB update for it. Only the international GSII has been officially confirmed. As we all know that phone and every other GSII has the exynos SoC so I wouldn't doubt the others can get it easily. But since we have the s3.. idk.
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And I just wanna state that it's obvious that Google is listening to what people want and trying to add it to software updates! We have all been talking about how nice it would be if we had a choice of AOSP or OEM.. And voila! Google goes ahead and appears to be implementing it!.. This is totally opposite of other mobile operating systems (not naming names) that always hold back the features... This is why I will probably stay loyal to android for a long time!
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Officially I don't think this phone is getting past ICS. I have high doubts about an official TW JB update for it. Only the international GSII has been officially confirmed. As we all know that phone and every other GSII has the exynos SoC so I wouldn't doubt the others can get it easily. But since we have the s3.. idk.
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I read that the mobile was updating their version of the galaxy S2... The link is in the jb thread sticky
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Amazing... something long overdue IMHO, but better late than never (in terms of the manufacturer bloat/customization thing).
Also... I think I read something about multiple Nexus devices on their way? Very exciting!

Yes I've heard of at least 2 nexus devices!.. An LG nexus device will be released by the end of October..The name Samsung Nexus 2 has been thrown around a bit. and I think there will be one by HTC as well..
Fragmentation on Android is going to get a lot better!
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According to this, its all a hoax
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ate-hoax-and-excellent-rumor-mill-case-study/
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I should be on the note 2 by the time this drops...
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stephen31686 said:
According to this, its all a hoax
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...ate-hoax-and-excellent-rumor-mill-case-study/
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Should have known it was too good to be true.. But I still expect great things from android(google)
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HOAX! the hoaxers comment
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...es-of-the-week-93012-10712/#comment-675183270

Ugh lol!
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[Discussion]Apples New Claims

So, I don't know if anyone has read the new claims that crapple seems to be bringing to court but here is a link to the post.
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/06/app...01/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Although here is some what of a break down of the contents.
It seems as though Apple has gone some crazy insane on crack or something because now they want to add 17 devices because they're all compatible with a stylus in some way. Now how the hell is that possible? None of Apple's products use a stylus, that I'm aware of anyway. At least they don't ship with one. Also, they are going after the GNex now, because hmmmm....It's running Jelly Bean?! That doesn't make any damn sense what so ever. So I though I would just bring this up for some discussion because I don' have the slightest idea how they can do this?

I always read about apple trying find something ***** about android / Samsung software and products. It seems like they just want own the market, but that just it not everyone cares for them. I see how their product is their own. But lot of it seems picky
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My mom for some reason got an iPhone 5, I told here it was a piece of worthless crap, and she didn't listen. Needless to say 2 weeks later she is taking it back I convinced her to get a Note 2!
But along the lines of the whole patent thing, they say there going after the GNex because it has Jelly Bean, BUT all other JB devices are fine!? Makes NO damn sense!

Ya I seen apple attack Samsung for a lot of things. Last couple of years, last time I read anything was that apple claim Samsung copy their design.. Silly power hungry company's
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They're just trying to get money back that they payed to Samsung for their parts lmao
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Apple will fold eventually. They always do. Look how long they tried to hold out on powerpc cpus before finally giving in to Intel -_-

I hope they get what's coming to them, and soon.
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apple wants to hold the patent on touchscreen technology, and will probably sue everyone until they get it

They are just mad because they lost a battle and are now paying out 360+ mil lol
Little babies lol

reddragon72 said:
They are just mad because they lost a battle and are now paying out 360+ mil lol
Little babies lol
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Really? Who they lost to?
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yellowman82 said:
Really? Who they lost to?
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VirnetX. Look for the article by Bloomberg.
: edit: Better yet, here it is. http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...-2-million-to-virnetx-in-patent-trial-1-.html
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MoHoGalore said:
VirnetX. Look for the article by Bloomberg.
: edit: Better yet, here it is. http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...-2-million-to-virnetx-in-patent-trial-1-.html
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Thats crazy but I like the line
“Apple does not owe money to VirnetX,”Danny Williams, a lawyer with Williams, Morgan & Amerson in Houston who represents Apple, told the jury. “VirnetX is not entitled to money for things they did not invent. Lol like apple hasn't done the same.
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Thats crazy but I like the line
“Apple does not owe money to VirnetX,”Danny Williams, a lawyer with Williams, Morgan & Amerson in Houston who represents Apple, told the jury. “VirnetX is not entitled to money for things they did not invent. Lol like apple hasn't done the same.
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It'll be interesting to see what the stance is on appeal.
Even when they lose they deny.. I'm reminded of Nixon... "I'm not a crook! "
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MoHoGalore said:
It'll be interesting to see what the stance is on appeal.
Even when they lose they deny.. I'm reminded of Nixon... "I'm not a crook! "
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lol to the Nixon part. I seriously hope they get screwed over big time.
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Apple is pretty much the illuminati of the business industry.
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My wife just got an iphone 4s the other day, even she was amazed by how little control you have.
I've messed with them before and they are nice products, but you can't even remove apps from the home screens. I was so confused by this. She doesn't need a stock app. How do you get rid of the icon? You don't.
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I have a small feeling they are attacking the GNex because it is ALWAYS updated. Google keeps the GNex on top of it. Apple probably views it as a threat because while we are here using the GNex for quite awhile (since we don't get bored with it), Apple has to release an entire new product to keep the users entertained.

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I have a small feeling they are attacking the GNex because it is ALWAYS updated. Google keeps the GNex on top of it. Apple probably views it as a threat because while we are here using the GNex for quite awhile (since we don't get bored with it), Apple has to release an entire new product to keep the users entertained.
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That makes a lot of sense never looked at it that way. But seriously for a healthy market there needs to be competition and if you suck that bad you go out of business that's that.
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MajorTankz said:
Apple is pretty much the illuminati of the business industry.
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WHAT DOES that mean?
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E4GTUser94 said:
That makes a lot of sense never looked at it that way. But seriously for a healthy market there needs to be competition and if you suck that bad you go out of business that's that.
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true man... im glad google has stepped up to man...use to have an ipad and iphone but its north worth it to me for the price....
now i have a nexus 7 and hope to get a nexus 4 soon.... which will cost me as much as an ipad alone so i am happy.

They really should be unallowed to file stupid claims with almost zero basis just on poor sportsmanship alone. They're butt hurt from Android gaining the majority marketshare
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[Poll] What is your next phone?

Face it our device is aging a bit. I'm thinking about waiting for the S5 or Nexus 5. What's your next phone?
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bigox said:
Face it our device is aging a bit. I'm thinking about waiting for the S5 or Nexus 5. What's your next phone?
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I've never been a big fan of this phone. It started in the first 15 minutes and the overall look of Touchwiz. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the fact that my 1st smart phone was a Nexus One and my affinity for Native android as a result. Anyway.
I just bought a Nexus four and love it. I plan to return it w/i the 14 buyer remorse T-Mobile has. IAfter that I'll either order another N4 or wait for the next Nexus phone. I love the simplicity and ease of use of them. It was so easy to root the N1.
So it's either the next Nexus phone or the Motorola X phone. $$ is important to me, so probably the Nexus.

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I've never been a big fan of this phone. It started in the first 15 minutes and the overall look of Touchwiz. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the fact that my 1st smart phone was a Nexus One and my affinity for Native android as a result. Anyway.
I just bought a Nexus four and love it. I plan to return it w/i the 14 buyer remorse T-Mobile has. IAfter that I'll either order another N4 or wait for the next Nexus phone. I love the simplicity and ease of use of them. It was so easy to root the N1.
So it's either the next Nexus phone or the Motorola X phone. $$ is important to me, so probably the Nexus.
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MotorolaX is gonna be awesome! Hopefully the S5 won't be so gimmicky like the S4, and I hope it looks apart from S4. Nexus 5 will win me over if they have LTE capable and expandable memory.:thumbup:
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Waiting for the next Nexus
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Waiting for the next Nexus
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I think I am going to wait for the nexus also. I am expecting a sleeker device, likely the same screen size. I hope they aren't stupid and put lte and expandable storage as well. If they don't its almost as if the nexus phones are turning into the iPhone.
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I think I am going to wait for the nexus also. I am expecting a sleeker device, likely the same screen size. I hope they aren't stupid and put lte and expandable storage as well. If they don't its almost as if the nexus phones are turning into the iPhone.
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...but half the price...and with an open source OS. Even if I had to choose, I'd still buy the Nexus.

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I think I am going to wait for the nexus also. I am expecting a sleeker device, likely the same screen size. I hope they aren't stupid and put lte and expandable storage as well. If they don't its almost as if the nexus phones are turning into the iPhone.
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Hope the screen resolution will be 1080 also I'm leaning towards the Nexus myself.
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cwillison94 said:
I think I am going to wait for the nexus also. I am expecting a sleeker device, likely the same screen size. I hope they aren't stupid and put lte and expandable storage as well. If they don't its almost as if the nexus phones are turning into the iPhone.
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Expandable storage would be nice but will never happen. Don't care much for lte as I'm on Wi-Fi 99% of the time. The only thing I want to see is a better camera...and maybe made of something other than glass as I've heard it can be quite fragile.
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...but half the price...and with an open source OS. Even if I had to choose, I'd still buy the Nexus.
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Don't get me wrong, I will always go for a nexus over an iPhone!
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Although not the "latest and greatest," I'm planning on getting the Xperia Z when it comes out. My reasoning is simply I hate the button layout of both the One and GS4, the waterproof-ness, and I think it looks pretty damn good.
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Note 2, from my wonderfully flashafied s2, or maybe I'll wait for the galaxy mega line to drop screen size is crazy
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After waiting forever for official jb on this phone, I'm probably gonna stick to nexus in the future as well. I've never needed an sd card, and love my N7, so a nexus phone will work for me.
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Note 2, from my wonderfully flashafied s2, or maybe I'll wait for the galaxy mega line to drop screen size is crazy
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Hold out a little longer and the Note3 will be out. It should be awesome! I have my eyes on that one to.
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bigox said:
Hold out a little longer and the Note3 will be out. It should be awesome! I have my eyes on that one to.
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Yeah man supposed to be sick, I actually got my hands on a prototype a lil while back and I must say it is an amazing device. ..
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Nexus 5 for sure
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Koragg618 said:
Nexus 5 for sure
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Note 3 or....Gasp...iPhone 6.... If Apple adds things such as haptic feedback and a larger display, I'd consider it. I personally like the newer flat UI from iOS, plus I like the social integration part of the software. Android has it's benefits, don't get me wrong, but honestly, I think iOS visually looks better...I don't know if I can live without widgets though
PS, I know I'm going to get flamed for that, but I'm not a fanboy of either...Looking at functionality and design..Nothing wrong with that

kj2112 said:
After waiting forever for official jb on this phone, I'm probably gonna stick to nexus in the future as well. I've never needed an sd card, and love my N7, so a nexus phone will work for me.
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We must have the same taste in devices. Guess I'll see you around in the nexus forums too.
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Although the screen size is small I'm thinking bout the bbQ10 or bbQ5
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gc84245 said:
We must have the same taste in devices. Guess I'll see you around in the nexus forums too.
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Yup! Love my N7 and the speedy updates!!
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hatememarkz said:
Although the screen size is small I'm thinking bout the bbQ10 or bbQ5
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You are a flashaholic....you'll despise anything other than android!
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smokinjoe2122 said:
Note 3 or....Gasp...iPhone 6.... If Apple adds things such as haptic feedback and a larger display, I'd consider it. I personally like the newer flat UI from iOS, plus I like the social integration part of the software. Android has it's benefits, don't get me wrong, but honestly, I think iOS visually looks better...I don't know if I can live without widgets though
PS, I know I'm going to get flamed for that, but I'm not a fanboy of either...Looking at functionality and design..Nothing wrong with that
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I had an apple 4 as my first smartphone. Yes they run nice....but I love to customize, so iPhone would never be a consideration for me....even if they make apps to clean my house and do my laundry! LOL.
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Yeah I feel u I'm probably gonna ROC with my gs2 for awhile looked at the apps for bb their selection suhkz balls plus I do love my droids:thumbup:
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