Editing to reflect proper dumb damages: 1.05 bn (pending)
20 to 21 hours of deliberations is a little fast for such a complicated case me thinks...
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No they didn't .... both kinda won and lost
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the US trial, not the Korean trial
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Yea to be fair I just saw. .. they lost lol
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$2.3 billion? Try $1.051 billion.
Still bad.
nope it's 2.3
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unless CNET is wrong...
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my bad, CNET is wrong.... bad math
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$1,051,855,000
And they come for newer phones like the gn next. Hopefully with less success. Pretty frustrating....really seems like a jury caught in apple fever.
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my bad, CNET is wrong.... bad math
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Yes, yes they are.
can't believe this...why doesn't somebody sue apple?they act like they have invented everything in the mobile industry,they are suing everybody...give me a break...
Yeah, that blows. Its just going to fuel the apple machine to sue more and more and more. They will just keep suing in this same district where Apple and jobs are the second coming of Christ until they do get all major competing phones blocked. I just hope Motorola hits apple hard.
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can't believe this...why doesn't somebody sue apple?they act like they have invented everything in the mobile industry,they are suing everybody...give me a break...
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People are suing (and have sued) Apple.
Because most of the jury, the judge and even both lawyers are probably using iPhone
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Wait for the Googlrola v Apple trial.
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2.3 billion... crap.
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(I'M NOT APPLE FANBOY)
Have you seen the galaxy tab's UI in the settings menu. It's a direct copy of the ipad.
Also why wasn't Google Android sued as well? Because every android phone is literally the same in system.:silly:
Why dont samsung just stop copying apple...it's not hard to do it. Such as Svoice that is just stupid copying Siri. I think samsung are just doing it on purpose because Svoice layout and look of it, is just a blatant copy for siri.
I hate Apple so much....
I didn't until all this crap happened I just said it wasn't for me.
now I would never ever support them in any way no matter what
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Have you seen the galaxy tab's UI in the settings menu. It's a direct copy of the ipad.
Also why wasn't Google Android sued as well? Because every android phone is literally the same in system.:silly:
Why dont samsung just stop copying apple...it's not hard to do it. Such as Svoice that is just stupid copying Siri. I think samsung are just doing it on purpose because Svoice layout and look of it, is just a blatant copy for siri.
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they don't copy them...
Ugh I owned a skyrocket before this, there are no similarities.
obviously people who claim this crap haven't actually used one
This is absolutely ridiculous.
I don't understand how things like pinch to zoom can even be patented in the first place.
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I don't understand how things like pinch to zoom can even be patented in the first place.
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This is what needs to be highlighted. If it wasn't Apple patenting this, it would be someone else. We need to realize that it's the patent system that's messed up allowing companies to patent these things in the first place. You can't blame Apple for trying this. It's in their best financial interest to do so.
Related
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Lmao
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Lmfao. Brilliant.
Why mock the Users of iPhones IMO not very smart strategy ... They should come right out with facts and show people how much better it actually is ...
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Why mock the Users of iPhones IMO not very smart strategy ... They should come right out with facts and show people how much better it actually is ...
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Because iPhone users are like kids they believe in Santa claus, the Easter bunny , and iPhone are just better because they are .....
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Because iPhone users are like kids they believe in Santa claus, the Easter bunny , and iPhone are just better because they are .....
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I get that ... but do you think mocking them will make them think "hey this product is better" ... or will they go with the product that always says it's "revolutionary" "the best" "years ahead" ...
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I get that ... but do you think mocking them will make them think "hey this product is better" ... or will they go with the product that always says it's "revolutionary" "the best" "years ahead" ...
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The ones that are smart already use Android, but the sheep you will never make them even try a different phone they are elite and it's only apple, Carmel latte frappes, etc.....
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But eh who cares it's funny .... I just got samsunged ... That's funny
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How come iphone doesnt have free navigation? I thought they did, what a bunch of illiterate isheeps? Apple is banking on lack of knowledge ppl.
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The ones that are smart already use Android, but the sheep you will never make them even try a different phone they are elite and it's only apple, Carmel latte frappes, etc.....
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this is why we mock them. cold hard facts havent suited them yet. but one thing an elitist sure understands, is snobbing on someone else.
I though I saw these guys at the Apple Store...
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Why mock the Users of iPhones IMO not very smart strategy ... They should come right out with facts and show people how much better it actually is ...
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I agree. Modesty is a more professional approach
I like companies playing hardball, hell apple has been doing this for a while( insert mac vs pc commercials here). Game on go samsung
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I liked the first one better lol. I like the advertisements they're shockingly accurate as to what apple launch day is.
Apple gave their competition a golden opportunity. If I had an iPhone 4 I would not walk out of a store using an upgrade on a phone that looks identical and basically is identical (OK don't flame but an upgraded camera and CPU/gpu isn't worth an upgrade)
Evo 4g to epic touch, now That is an upgrade ;-)
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The first round of commercials were better, it actually showed some of features of the phone. Still I like the fact that they are firing back at apple...the right and respectable way...not with frivolous lawsuits but through competition.
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I liked the first one better lol. I like the advertisements they're shockingly accurate as to what apple launch day is.
Apple gave their competition a golden opportunity. If I had an iPhone 4 I would not walk out of a store using an upgrade on a phone that looks identical and basically is identical (OK don't flame but an upgraded camera and CPU/gpu isn't worth an upgrade)
Evo 4g to epic touch, now That is an upgrade ;-)
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My girlfriend just upgraded to the 4s from the 4 despite my best efforts. I had her convinced to at least try the at&t gs2 and see if she would like it. But then the salesman said, "I have the gs2 and if you already have an iPhone you'll want to stay with iPhone.."
And she did. Stupid salesman. I was di close to converting someone and I was helpless to intervene because I was at work. Blast.
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Since it looks just like the iP4, how will everyone know she upgraded?
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My girlfriend just upgraded to the 4s from the 4 despite my best efforts. I had her convinced to at least try the at&t gs2 and see if she would like it. But then the salesman said, "I have the gs2 and if you already have an iPhone you'll want to stay with iPhone.."
And she did. Stupid salesman. I was di close to converting someone and I was helpless to intervene because I was at work. Blast.
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One of the metrics we are scored on is return rate. I've yet to return an iPhone for anything but a more expensive iPhone. I have definitely returned android devices (including the epic touch) for iPhones. I will give someone a fair discussion on whether they are really getting the right phone without resorting to android snobbery, but I ultimately have to look out for me and not get things returned.
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Unless I get an Apple diehard with nothing but Apple products I can usually flop them to Android. More specifically the Epic Touch. Larger screen, expandable memory and showing them mine running all the rooted goodies. Plus, a lot of people don't like that you have to use iTunes.
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My girlfriend just upgraded to the 4s from the 4 despite my best efforts. I had her convinced to at least try the at&t gs2 and see if she would like it. But then the salesman said, "I have the gs2 and if you already have an iPhone you'll want to stay with iPhone.."
And she did. Stupid salesman. I was di close to converting someone and I was helpless to intervene because I was at work. Blast.
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My girlfriend wants an IPad now but I have nothing else I can convince her of :-( I said the TF prime before it came out but blech. I'm on the lookout for a nice ICS tablet myself, there's not really any android tablets I like except older ones.
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My girlfriend wants an IPad now but I have nothing else I can convince her of :-( I said the TF prime before it came out but blech. I'm on the lookout for a nice ICS tablet myself, there's not really any android tablets I like except older ones.
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The rumors of the prime being crap are greatly exaggerated. I know 2 people that have one and have had no problems. It's a very vocal minority that have issues if you read the forums closely.
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http://phandroid.com/2012/08/24/breaking-verdict-reached-in-apple-v-samsung-patent-trial/
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08...ict-in-apple-vs-samsung-case/?test=latestnews
Scorecard so far:
* Jury finds Samsung infringement of Apple utility, design patents for some (though not all) products
* Jury upholds Apple utility, design patents
* Jury upholds Apple trade dress '983
* Jury finds Samsung "diluted" Apple's registered iPhone, iPhone 3 and "Combination iPhone" trade dress on some products, not on others
* No Apple infringement of Samsung utility patents
Damages owed by Samsung:
* $1.05 billion and counting
BS verdict
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
This sucks ass.
Paid verdict. **** apple
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
So what now? Will this affect the S3? Is the S4 gonna be triangle shaped?
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Wow... well u have the most expensive company in the world going another rich company it all comes down to who and what their price is... this is very unfortunate to innovation in the world.. I really do hope someone drops a nuke on the apple head quarters and their affiliates
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In other news.... Ford is suing Chevy for having a button, that if pressed, rolls down your window..
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So what now? Will this affect the S3? Is the S4 gonna be triangle shaped?
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1 sided polygons - 11 sided ones have been copyrighted
Same with 13 sided - infinity sided
Apple decided to leave out 12 for fun
I can't wait to see my dodecagon s4
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In other news.... Ford is suing Chevy for having a button, that if pressed, rolls down your window..
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And Apple is suing both of them for using a button for anything
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All this because....Samsung released a iPhone killer product lmao....
So in other news... Motorola Google vs apple
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And Apple is suing both of them for using a button for anything
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lol and this is probably the best reason yet to never buy anything from apple i can understand protecting your ideas but it seems like most of the stuff they didnt even come up with
this sucks. but samsung can sue, when the iphone with LTE comes out samsung can sue apple because of the patents they have for LTE. with the divisons the samsung have they eat the billions, and get the money back with the parts they make for the iphone/ipad they make.
Everyone is complaining....its actually a win! Besides apple how many phones use or are now using samsung chargers? Easiest to use...win one. And you get a samsung for how much compared to apple? With better options, root, etc.
this isnt a loss....its an opening for real things and development for better things even more than apple with restrictions...and so on!
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This is far from a loss, Is apple the Antichrist? yes. is Samsung guilty? Hell ya
Samsung did copy Apple and because they were to lazy and careless, they got caught. Period. Yes, innovation is often achieved on improving and evolving a product of a rival company, but you just have to be a lot more slick about it. They had emails of them admitting it.
Now Samsung will be forced to innovate even harder and this will make our Galaxy 4's even more impressive.
And Android should be safe now the Google got the Motorola patents. They should be able to force Apple into some sort of an agreement, now the Steve Jobs has passed away.
I really hope android platform and look isn't affected by this verdict.
Phuck Apple
Hopefully this won't affect the sales of the S3. My upgrade isn't until Sept 1st and I really want the S3. I hate apple so much. You should see some of the posts I wrote about them on other forums. And if I were Samsung, I would quit making Apple's screens and components for some of their devices..
I dont see it affecting the sale of s3, nexus i thought was supposed to be pulled of shelves..havent seen that yet!
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because...
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I dont see it affecting the sale of s3, nexus i thought was supposed to be pulled of shelves..havent seen that yet!
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Remember that lovely little update that crippled your search bar in LF9? Our s3 isn't the only phone that got it. They changed the software in the gnex like ours to pull the "infringing" sh*t
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And Android should be safe now the Google got the Motorola patents. They should be able to force Apple into some sort of an agreement, now the Steve Jobs has passed away.
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And for the record, nobody "passed away". God smited steve jobs from the earth for being a scum piece of sh*t
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390&repost=1
Anyone find it hilarous that the original Epic, the one that is most different from the iphones and has a freaking keyboard..., suffered the 2nd most in terms of fines? Also, it's kinda cute that the jurors decided to ignore the concept of prior art to "save time".
Well...To be honest ...this may very well go super nova..or even viral. Meaning this case will see the doors of the u.s. supreme court. Where we all know apple will not stand a chance with such a petty sue. Stay strong Samsung!
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Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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I love it! Thanks this made my day
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drewmonge said:
Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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Interesting article, really had to click a link within that article to really read the goods.
From what I think is true, Samsung makes (most) of the processors for the iPhone. Isn't the LTE radio inside the processor? I don't understand what grounds Samsung will have to sue Apple for injecting LTE into their phones when Samsung most likely will provide the radio for Apple. After researching Samsung only owns 12.2% of the LTE patent and I guess has the right to sue Apple.
If Steve Jobs was still alive (RIP) I would say there would be no way Apple would jam LTE into their phones, who knows now though
I still don't understand what grounds of patent infringements Samsung will have to sue Apple, if Samsung wants to recover their money, bump the price for the processors they sell to Apple... haha
If a few of the android phone manufacturers have rights to the patent then Mabry it could become a lot bigger than just Samsung.
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Apple will get what's coming to them
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Doesn't the ipad 3 have lte connectivity?
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Apple is basically shooting themselves in the foot with all this mess. I was never really an iPhone or an iPad fan, and vowed never to get one. But I did still like the MacBook pros and such. Because of their usefulness in stuff like video production and recording. But now after all this patent trolling and manipulation of the patent system, I've vowed never to buy anything Apple related. And I know other people feel the same. They as a company now just make my stomach churn.
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Apple is basically shooting themselves in the foot with all this mess. I was never really an iPhone or an iPad fan, and vowed never to get one. But I did still like the MacBook pros and such. Because of their usefulness in stuff like video production and recording. But now after all this patent trolling and manipulation of the patent system, I've vowed never to buy anything Apple related. And I know other people feel the same. They as a company now just make my stomach churn.
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I work with a few "Apple Fanboys" who, after all this law suite, have sworn away from Apple... they claim the next phone they get will be a Samsung powered Android... haha
Now let's see if they will backup their words... one of them said they are embarrassed to have an iPhone now
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Came across this article, Pay Back is a b+*** lol, I wish they can ban the sales! ^_^
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/is-the-next-iphone-in-already-in-patent-trouble/
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g2uzer said:
Came across this article, Pay Back is a b+*** lol, I wish they can ban the sales! ^_^
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/is-the-next-iphone-in-already-in-patent-trouble/
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That will be awesome
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Payback is a biitch!!!
Lol
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Awesome for who, exactly? Do you own HTC or Samsung stock or something?
Consumers (i.e. you, me) don't win when products are banned or pulled from the market.
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Awesome for who, exactly? Do you own HTC or Samsung stock or something?
Consumers (i.e. you, me) don't win when products are banned or pulled from the market.
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You are right consumers don't win but maybe in the long run it teach there greedy asses a little lesson which may in turn eventually help us consumers. Companies have worked togethor in ways similar to tuis whole situation for years and the apple decided to be ignorant. If theu would just keep working togethor and let us consumers decide for ourselves instead of trying to force our hands then everyone wins. I understand there are as many faithful apple guys as there are us android guys. People will get what they prefer on there own. I don't care for ios so no matter what happens I will still use an android phone and ios users will still use iphone. It should be our choice. No theres
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Thing is, I know so many people who would only buy an Iphone... I expect to have to order several of the new one's as soon as they're officially available for folks at work...
Exactly just as I would only buy android. That's what I mean it should be our decision all this ban this ban thay sh1t is for the birds. I want to pick what phone I have I don't want apple or samsung as far as that goes to choose for me. I personally chose the galaxy s3 and anyone who wants an iphone and want lte with should have that choice as a consumer. They want android users to not get google now and ios users to not get lte. Bullsh1t we should habe the right to choose whatever the hell we want
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Exactly just as I would only buy android. That's what I mean it should be our decision all this ban this ban thay sh1t is for the birds. I want to pick what phone I have I don't want apple or samsung as far as that goes to choose for me. I personally chose the galaxy s3 and anyone who wants an iphone and want lte with should have that choice as a consumer. They want android users to not get google now and ios users to not get lte. Bullsh1t we should habe the right to choose whatever the hell we want
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tell that to apple who got our Android products banned multiple times and continues to strive to do so. i know that competition is good and always will be but i can't help but get some pleasure seeing them get into trouble for once instead of us Android folk continuously getting it up the behind.
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tell that to apple who got our Android products banned multiple times and continues to strive to do so. i know that competition is good and always will be but i can't help but get some pleasure seeing them get into trouble for once instead of us Android folk continuously getting it up the behind.
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Funny thing is android is still climbing after all those daggers it is getting from Apple. The numbers speak for themselves.
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Apple should get a taste of its own medicine
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Apple should get a taste of its own medicine
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Exactly!
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Apple should get a taste of its own medicine
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Apple should get a taste of its own medicine
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tgamble160 said:
You are right consumers don't win but maybe in the long run it teach there greedy asses a little lesson which may in turn eventually help us consumers. Companies have worked togethor in ways similar to tuis whole situation for years and the apple decided to be ignorant. If theu would just keep working togethor and let us consumers decide for ourselves instead of trying to force our hands then everyone wins. I understand there are as many faithful apple guys as there are us android guys. People will get what they prefer on there own. I don't care for ios so no matter what happens I will still use an android phone and ios users will still use iphone. It should be our choice. No theres
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Exactly, very well said!!
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Anything that can be done to these super greedy conglomerates is OK in my book
If it were up to Apple, there would be no other option but the iPhone...
Thankfully, it is not up to Apple.
As much as people dislike Apple, think about this.
"The next generation iPhone 5, which Apple Inc. plans to release this week, could not only boost the tech giant's bottom line - but could give a significant boost to the overall U.S. economy."
Source
Why do people keep comparing a phone to an operating system.
I don't like the iphone, but I do like samsung phones.
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I gave up on apple many years ago when Eve bit that piece of fruit rotten to the core
I always disliked their products. Now after apple sleazy tactics - I hate them.
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As much as people dislike Apple, think about this.
"The next generation iPhone 5, which Apple Inc. plans to release this week, could not only boost the tech giant's bottom line - but could give a significant boost to the overall U.S. economy."
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not if all that money goes outside the country from outsourcing.
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I don't know how to feel about it. No competition is a bad thing, but Apple deserves it.
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So, I don't know if anyone has read the new claims that crapple seems to be bringing to court but here is a link to the post.
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/06/app...01/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Although here is some what of a break down of the contents.
It seems as though Apple has gone some crazy insane on crack or something because now they want to add 17 devices because they're all compatible with a stylus in some way. Now how the hell is that possible? None of Apple's products use a stylus, that I'm aware of anyway. At least they don't ship with one. Also, they are going after the GNex now, because hmmmm....It's running Jelly Bean?! That doesn't make any damn sense what so ever. So I though I would just bring this up for some discussion because I don' have the slightest idea how they can do this?
I always read about apple trying find something ***** about android / Samsung software and products. It seems like they just want own the market, but that just it not everyone cares for them. I see how their product is their own. But lot of it seems picky
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My mom for some reason got an iPhone 5, I told here it was a piece of worthless crap, and she didn't listen. Needless to say 2 weeks later she is taking it back I convinced her to get a Note 2!
But along the lines of the whole patent thing, they say there going after the GNex because it has Jelly Bean, BUT all other JB devices are fine!? Makes NO damn sense!
Ya I seen apple attack Samsung for a lot of things. Last couple of years, last time I read anything was that apple claim Samsung copy their design.. Silly power hungry company's
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They're just trying to get money back that they payed to Samsung for their parts lmao
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Apple will fold eventually. They always do. Look how long they tried to hold out on powerpc cpus before finally giving in to Intel -_-
I hope they get what's coming to them, and soon.
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apple wants to hold the patent on touchscreen technology, and will probably sue everyone until they get it
They are just mad because they lost a battle and are now paying out 360+ mil lol
Little babies lol
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They are just mad because they lost a battle and are now paying out 360+ mil lol
Little babies lol
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Really? Who they lost to?
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Really? Who they lost to?
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VirnetX. Look for the article by Bloomberg.
: edit: Better yet, here it is. http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...-2-million-to-virnetx-in-patent-trial-1-.html
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VirnetX. Look for the article by Bloomberg.
: edit: Better yet, here it is. http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...-2-million-to-virnetx-in-patent-trial-1-.html
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Thats crazy but I like the line
“Apple does not owe money to VirnetX,”Danny Williams, a lawyer with Williams, Morgan & Amerson in Houston who represents Apple, told the jury. “VirnetX is not entitled to money for things they did not invent. Lol like apple hasn't done the same.
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yellowman82 said:
Thats crazy but I like the line
“Apple does not owe money to VirnetX,”Danny Williams, a lawyer with Williams, Morgan & Amerson in Houston who represents Apple, told the jury. “VirnetX is not entitled to money for things they did not invent. Lol like apple hasn't done the same.
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It'll be interesting to see what the stance is on appeal.
Even when they lose they deny.. I'm reminded of Nixon... "I'm not a crook! "
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MoHoGalore said:
It'll be interesting to see what the stance is on appeal.
Even when they lose they deny.. I'm reminded of Nixon... "I'm not a crook! "
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lol to the Nixon part. I seriously hope they get screwed over big time.
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Apple is pretty much the illuminati of the business industry.
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My wife just got an iphone 4s the other day, even she was amazed by how little control you have.
I've messed with them before and they are nice products, but you can't even remove apps from the home screens. I was so confused by this. She doesn't need a stock app. How do you get rid of the icon? You don't.
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I have a small feeling they are attacking the GNex because it is ALWAYS updated. Google keeps the GNex on top of it. Apple probably views it as a threat because while we are here using the GNex for quite awhile (since we don't get bored with it), Apple has to release an entire new product to keep the users entertained.
crkdslider said:
I have a small feeling they are attacking the GNex because it is ALWAYS updated. Google keeps the GNex on top of it. Apple probably views it as a threat because while we are here using the GNex for quite awhile (since we don't get bored with it), Apple has to release an entire new product to keep the users entertained.
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That makes a lot of sense never looked at it that way. But seriously for a healthy market there needs to be competition and if you suck that bad you go out of business that's that.
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MajorTankz said:
Apple is pretty much the illuminati of the business industry.
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WHAT DOES that mean?
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E4GTUser94 said:
That makes a lot of sense never looked at it that way. But seriously for a healthy market there needs to be competition and if you suck that bad you go out of business that's that.
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true man... im glad google has stepped up to man...use to have an ipad and iphone but its north worth it to me for the price....
now i have a nexus 7 and hope to get a nexus 4 soon.... which will cost me as much as an ipad alone so i am happy.
They really should be unallowed to file stupid claims with almost zero basis just on poor sportsmanship alone. They're butt hurt from Android gaining the majority marketshare
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