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The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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kingsway8605 said:
If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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We need lots of more articles like these..Will be putting the link on Twiter and Facebook...Just like CIQ
Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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They are only slightly better than Samsung.
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If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
Apart from that, they have supported it for about 19 months now through 3 major releases, instead of their promise of 18 months and a minimum of 1 major release.
So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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See post right before yours.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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They treat you best?
How, by giving you updates that your phone can handle?
You applaud them for that, yet you think it's a bad thing when a company (Samsung) wouldn't send an update to a device that COULDN'T properly handle one?
Apple's way around the issue is to rarely update their hardware, so that it can handle any update they throw at it for 2+ years.
Samsung (and the major Android manufacturers in general) deals with it by continuously pushing the envelope by releasing cutting-edge hardware, and then updating software to the devices that can handle it.
Which would you rather have? 2 year old hardware, and last year's updates, or tomorrow's hardware and tomorrow's updates?
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So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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See post right before yours.
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I did:
You're getting dumber and dumber as this goes on.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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Whatever tips your balance off course, for many it would be because of other things but at least this is honest reasoning.
Shouting that Samsung lied to costumers and mistreats them is just stupid and shows no understanding of market mechanisms, but displays tunnelvision instead.
I understand it sucks, having had an Omnia2 before my Galaxy S2, but it was known beforehand that the updatecycle would stop somewhere at the end of 2011, as it is to end at Q3/Q4-2012 for the Galaxy S2. By that time the same discussion will start, this time about the Galaxy Nexus, with the same stupid arguments, petitions and tears.
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Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count).
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This is the crux of the whole thing:
I would never, in my worst "phone-geek" nightmare, dream of owning the same device for 3 years, I don't care which phone it was.
That's an eternity in terms of technological advances, and if that's what you're looking for: a phone that'll still be updated (software-wise) for 3 years, then an iphone is EXACTLY what you need.
I'd rather have a hole in my head than to be stuck with ANY phone for that long.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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If Samsung didn't honestly care for it's customers people would have never gotten an update at all.
It's entertaining that you're white knighting yourself with the supposed honor of refusing to buy Sansung devices because of them no longer supporting year-old hardware.
Things move fast, the employees that make the updates at Samsung don't have any obligation to continue to work on old hardware.
The Evo Shift isn't getting ICS and it released after the Galaxy S line. Is HTC suddenly not carrying for its customers?
Why, exactly do you care?
Your device WILL get ICS and the chances are you are rooted and even if it didn't [get ICS] some developer(s) is/are working on it.
Hell, I'm sure that rooted Galaxy S users will get it.
Enjoy getting gimped updates with features cut out once your apple device is no longer the top-of-their-line.
There is absolutely no reason for people with a device that old to expect ICS via their manufacturer.
You're basically saying that Samsung should update phones that it shouldn't really be on to it, providing a lackluster User experience.
The users would get all sorts of issues with it and no amount of features would change the fact that some of the issues would push that customer away from that manufacturer.
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So sorry that Android's updates are taking much bigger steps than IOS' updates.
I believe the thing that the OP doesn't take into account is that even apple phones usually become to slow for the latest and greatest iOS version after 18 months to 2 years. In which case, you are back at square one if you had bought any number of android phones.
Regardless, 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
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Damn it, I am pissed! Screw corporate america! Where's my tent, I'm going to "occupy" their headquarters!!
This is sort of a rant, or whatever. I remember when I got into Android, if you wanted top of the line, and a phone that would have everything, you got a Nexus. The Nexus was built specifically for Google. Then the introduced the Nexus S. That is when I started to get disappointed with the Nexus. It came in three or four different models, specific to carriers. Now, I am even more appauled because they have started putting carrier stamps on them. I noticed the Sprint version as the Sprint logo on the back of it, and the Verizon version has their logo on it. It is almost seeming like "Nexus" is an OEM now. They release a Nexus on an annual basis, with different features specific to carriers, and now put the carrier name on them. That is the same thing Samsung did with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2. HTC did it with a couple of their dual core phones, and the Hero. I dont know, it just bothers me. I used to want a Nexus back in the day, but now it is just like another manufacturer releasing a phone at the begining of the year. Wait a few months and something better will be out.
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This is sort of a rant, or whatever. I remember when I got into Android, if you wanted top of the line, and a phone that would have everything, you got a Nexus. The Nexus was built specifically for Google. Then the introduced the Nexus S. That is when I started to get disappointed with the Nexus. It came in three or four different models, specific to carriers. Now, I am even more appauled because they have started putting carrier stamps on them. I noticed the Sprint version as the Sprint logo on the back of it, and the Verizon version has their logo on it. It is almost seeming like "Nexus" is an OEM now. They release a Nexus on an annual basis, with different features specific to carriers, and now put the carrier name on them. That is the same thing Samsung did with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2. HTC did it with a couple of their dual core phones, and the Hero. I dont know, it just bothers me. I used to want a Nexus back in the day, but now it is just like another manufacturer releasing a phone at the begining of the year. Wait a few months and something better will be out.
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That is how phones are going to be when the og nexus was out there were no top of the line phones now its just like computers and how amd and Intel fought it out ... that is the business
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Carrier stamp is no big deal, what is appalling is when the carrier (ahem Verizon) wants to put their bloat on a Nexus device.
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Carrier stamp is no big deal, what is appalling is when the carrier (ahem Verizon) wants to put their bloat on a Nexus device.
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Yet that part we can put some blame on Google for as well. I think going to VZN for the first GNexus was a bad idea (IMO)
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Yet that part we can put some blame on Google for as well. I think going to VZN for the first GNexus was a bad idea (IMO)
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Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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Its funny because a mwc there will be probably 6 phones announced that will blow the galaxy nexus away ... but that is phones wait 3 months and your phone is far surpassed
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Its funny because a mwc there will be probably 6 phones announced that will blow the galaxy nexus away ... but that is phones wait 3 months and your phone is far surpassed
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Yep. Soon after mwc the sgs3 will be announced (april based on rumors) and the devices from mwc will be old news
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Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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That I agree on. All I see is Moto devices being pushed and very little if ANYTHING at all about the Nexus. The fact that VZN alone held out on releasing it was pretty sad. I mean Seriously it was/should of been released here in the States first yet VZN wanted it "their" way and held off cause of Wallet? (granted there was prob more then just that) but all in all VZN screwed up the GNexus launch for the States.
I just hope that in the future Google remembers this and maybe even choses Sprint for the next Nexus device.
I remember whwn nexus one was released, it really pushed the envelope hardware wise, as well as software. Even without rooting it, I'd say it was faster than anything else out there for close to a year, till sgs. Even then, it still seemed snappier. Now though, galaxy nexus didn't really seem all that appealing before it was even released, some could argue for sgs2 being better in many aspects. And it is stuck on a carrier that's really not selling it, at a price that some of us find high. On a most expensive network. By the time Sprint gets a better version of it, nexus will be old news. Definitely not the way Google envisioned this device, considering it is supposed to be flagship
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This is especially relevant since the only version of the galaxy nexus supported by google as a "true" nexus device is the gsm version...
Both the cdma and LTE customers are at SOL, as far as the first shot upgrades go...
(Yeah, this means Sprint.)
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This is especially relevant since the only version of the galaxy nexus supported by google as a "true" nexus device is the gsm version...
Both the cdma and LTE customers are at SOL, as far as the first shot upgrades go...
(Yeah, this means Sprint.)
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eh...no one knows this as of yet. One reason the NS4G is late to the game for updates is the WiMax stuff (iirc) The GNexus won't have that it will be a LTE device so that "should" make it a bit better (again I'm kinda guessing here but it makes sense at least to me)
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eh...no one knows this as of yet. One reason the NS4G is late to the game for updates is the WiMax stuff (iirc) The GNexus won't have that it will be a LTE device so that "should" make it a bit better (again I'm kinda guessing here but it makes sense at least to me)
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Google announced this today.
(The Sprint Gnex isn't really a Nexus device, as far as users like us are concerned.)
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Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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How is that droid razr? I heard its a super amoled LED screen.... Does it compare to ours?
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I am hoping Sprint is smart enough to beef up their version of the GN. Otherwise by the time it is released it will be looked at as a mid level device and practically irrelevant.
I am also surprised they have yet to gave any type of time frame for it's release. They must still be working on their tiered LTE data plans
Google needs to set their foot down and limit OEM's on how many device they can make in a year. They can still continue releasing their Nexus devices and force carriers to not change anything on them. Our phones will have a long shelf life and be easier to receive updates.
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Google needs to set their foot down and limit OEM's on how many device they can make in a year. They can still continue releasing their Nexus devices and force carriers to not change anything on them. Our phones will have a long shelf life and be easier to receive updates.
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Why would they do that and lose out on a ****load of money
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I am hoping Sprint is smart enough to beef up their version of the GN. Otherwise by the time it is released it will be looked at as a mid level device and practically irrelevant.
I am also surprised they have yet to gave any type of time frame for it's release. They must still be working on their tiered LTE data plans
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There are rumors of a better GN in the works. Hopefully it's for Sprint especially since the sprint version at CES was kept under wraps in terms of only allowing photos of the front of the device.
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There are rumors of a better GN in the works. Hopefully it's for Sprint especially since the sprint version at CES was kept under wraps in terms of only allowing photos of the front of the device.
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I have heard rumors that the "better GN" has different processors in it, supposedly its the newest version of the TI-OMAP. I also read an article on Engaget from someone who got to play with the Sprint version and they confirmed it was identical to the Verizon version (including the 1.2ghz processors), except for google wallet.
If there is in-fact a better Nexus in the making, I would think it stupid to release it as a Galaxy Nexus because it wouldnt even be the same phone.
I kind of feel bad for people upgrading and going with anything else other than sgs2. Most people will never pay full retail, so they get stuck with their device for 20 months. Do you see yourself using an evo 3d for that long?!
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I use my phones for about 3 months on average. I buy and sell on ebay/craigslist. They pay for themselves that way.
OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy or any fanboy for that matter I love tech and gadgets. Second it is a sad day for many people like me because I am tied to sprint for life probably mainly because of price and unlimited data. (That's not the sad part). So with that said I am tied to their phones and right now with the current phones and android it is a sad cluster f$%#. ICS is great just on its own but Sammy and HTC don't care. Updates come like whenever, maybe 8 months later to a year maybe never.
All future phones on sprint are a letdown at this point sg3, evo one, galaxy nexus is great but no lte. Android is just a hot mess I don't even know the point of pure Google of only 1 percent actually have it.
Apple is in perfect position because if the iPhone 5 is bigger and beautiful and powerful its a wrap. Once lte is up I can't find any reason to stay with Android or anything other. Google paved the way for apple to crush them because they have no standards. I have used android pretty intensely and its just all over the place. A bigger retina better battery iPhone will be a killer. And who knows what IOS 6 will be.
I know many of you will flame but if you can't understand at least one point then you are blind. I'm not bashing Android I love ics and wish I had it running perfect on my phone.
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Dude I typed it on my phone maybe its not your first language.
Stop being such a fanboy.
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OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy or any fanboy for that matter I love tech and gadgets. Second it is a sad day for many people like me because I am tied to sprint for life probably mainly because of price and unlimited data. (That's not the sad part). So with that said I am tied to their phones and right now with the current phones and android it is a sad cluster f$%#. ICS is great just on its own but Sammy and HTC don't care. Updates come like whenever, maybe 8 months later to a year maybe never.
All future phones on sprint are a letdown at this point sg3, evo one, galaxy nexus is great but no lte. Android is just a hot mess I don't even know the point of pure Google of only 1 percent actually have it.
Apple is in perfect position because if the iPhone 5 is bigger and beautiful and powerful its a wrap. Once lte is up I can't find any reason to stay with Android or anything other. Google paved the way for apple to crush them because they have no standards. I have used android pretty intensely and its just all over the place. A bigger retina better battery iPhone will be a killer. And who knows what IOS 6 will be.
I know many of you will flame but if you can't understand at least one point then you are blind. I'm not bashing Android I love ics and wish I had it running perfect on my phone.
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if you are running behind an the newest os by android then your an ass .all i care about is if the phone does what i want when i want it to! as for lte buy a laptop if you need to be online that much and you want it fast. dont get sucked in by lte craze,tes its fast btut if you spend that much time on your phones internet YOU NEED A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!
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Dude I typed it on my phone maybe its not your first language.
Stop being such a fanboy.
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although i just skimmed over it, your typing and language look fine to me. i dont know what that other dude is talking about.
How bout we have at least one thread that doesn't resort to arguing and name calling? Arguing is going to happen, I understand that, but try doing it in an adult manner.
If not, I can shut this one down also.
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I don't quite see how android is a mess? Just because Samsung has touchwiz and HTC has Sense? You do realize that both companies do provide updates to their phones right? Yes, I realize the move from Froyo -> Gingerbread -> ICS isn't fast...but that's copmarable to IOS 3 -> 4 -> 5 (which is also about once a year). The minor updates in betweens are generally fixes for things, and a lot have been purely to patch exploits by jailbreakers which further locks the phone down. Officially our phones have recieved 2 updates, and we're waiting on the official 3rd to move to ICS.
The new iPhone will be a hit...because it is an iPhone, simple as that. The bigger size will attract some more people, but seeing how the 4S was a lackluster upgrade and it was Apple's top selling phone, crushing any android phone's sale. This next one will do the same. Personally, and I'm guessing for many on XDA who enjoy modding the crap out of their phones, iPhones aren't really an option...especially the way it is now making jailbreak exploits even harder to come by.
Lets all have a drink
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Damn, people are upset since the specs were released! Part that caught my eye is "no LTE." I thought the GNex was the first phone that had it?
I stopped at " OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy..."
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I stopped at " OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy..."
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Me too!!!
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I stopped at " OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy..."
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Lol'd.
You don't see how android is a mess. First what is android to most people you will get a 100 different answers.
Ics has on screen buttons really not on Sammy and HTC phones.
How many versions of Android are there running now on phones.
Somebody makes a game or app works/tested on some phones not working for many but you can still buy it even though it doesn't work.
I could go on
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I stopped at " OK first off I'm not an apple fanboy..."
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Well because if speak any truth that's anti android we all know how that ends up. I guess some of you are happy about the eco one and sg3 I thought they were both a letdown
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Well because if speak any truth that's anti android we all know how that ends up. I guess some of you are happy about the eco one and sg3 I thought they were both a letdown
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I think you're passing judgement on them before giving them a try. Their specs have been released, but you haven't held onto them yet. I don't think the next iPhone will be a mind blower either, it'll probably be similar to the specifications of the EVO LTE or SGSIII.
The SGS2 is definitely my kind of phone, the only thing I'll need is LTE when it comes to my area. We'll see how it goes.
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I could go on
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Please dont
Fataldesain said:
You don't see how android is a mess. First what is android to most people you will get a 100 different answers.
Ics has on screen buttons really not on Sammy and HTC phones.
How many versions of Android are there running now on phones.
Somebody makes a game or app works/tested on some phones not working for many but you can still buy it even though it doesn't work.
I could go on
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my car uses gas but i can still buy diesel........people have pc's and buy games that they cant play on it because of hardware issues, just like phones, its YOUR responsibility to do a little research on if something can/will/properly run on your device.
I'm going to go ahead and shut this one down. Seems like a troll thread to me.
There is a place in the android general section that would better suit this discussion.
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I got a new red s3 a few days ago and other than not being able to check for ot updates, I really like it. However, I have one big concern that has me wondering if maybe I should swap it out for a One X ($79.88 at wal mart). If Apple ends up winning the court case against Samsung, what will happen as far as future updates/upgrades/support? If Apple wins, apparently th s3 will be banned from future sales. And since they have already taken the local search function away, what other features are we likely to lose just to appease Apple?
Samsung and Apple will battle in court for the foreseeable future. The sgiii isn't going to get barred from being sold, at least not for any significant amount of time.
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Apple already put a stop to sales of one of Samsung's tablets. The s3 is next on their list. But I already have one so that part doesn't concern me. What does concern me is support for the s3 if Samsung is banned from selling it. It is hard to imagine them supporting a product that they can't sell. Plus, if the software is also banned (local search), will they even be able to support it if they want to?
Umm they really don't have anything to go after the SGS3 for. It is not rectangular, it does not have uniform corners, and TouchWiz does not look like iOS, so what could the possible ban it for?
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I feel the same way. But you know how it is. I couldn't believe that Samsung took away the local search but they did. Apparently, pretty much everything from the icons to the touch screen is copied from Apple. But the s3 with its physical home button is the first Android powered phone to outsell the iPhone. Therefore it must go. Like I said, Apple got the Nexus tablet banned because it was too much like the iPad. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone that is constantly being stripped down bit by bit or completely removed from the market and nit supported at all. It's funny, though. The Apple TV sure looks like a Samsung to me. I wonder if Samsung will sue Apple?
Becouse they are afraid of the sgs3...
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Becouse they are afraid of the sgs3...
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With good reason.
Sweet we will be only ones with s3. lol. It won't happen.
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I got a new red s3 a few days ago and other than not being able to check for ot updates, I really like it. However, I have one big concern that has me wondering if maybe I should swap it out for a One X ($79.88 at wal mart). If Apple ends up winning the court case against Samsung, what will happen as far as future updates/upgrades/support? If Apple wins, apparently th s3 will be banned from future sales. And since they have already taken the local search function away, what other features are we likely to lose just to appease Apple?
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You are on xda, you shouldnt worry about that. Devs here will do everything to add features back. atleast the common sense ones.
Even if something as far-fetched as banning the S3 does occur, I doubt that they would simply just stop supporting a device that sold over 10 million units.
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I mean really, Apple does not have nothing to stop the SGS3. The phone was designed to avoid being stopped by Apple. and even then, if they try to stop it via software, they cant, because all it takes is a software patch. hence the Galaxy Nexus.
When it comes down to it, Apple is scared. Android is light years better and they know it. They know that Google made an OS to rival theirs and did it better. So, if you can't beat the competition, then sue (sp.) their butt off! Apple will ALWAYS be a fanboy market...meaning all the die-hard robots that will do/buy whatever Apple tells them too. Meanwhile, Google will keep innovating and making their mobile OS truely the best on the market today.
ahh the beauty of living in canada us patents dont apply here! yippee! never have to worry about any of these stupid lawsuits. :good:
though even if they win, they cant really touch the sgs iii, apple is mainly targeting older samsung phones which imo did blatantly copy apple (talking about like the galaxy s originaly) , they have changed a lot since those days. id be surprised if they had any dirt on the siii.
They are scared of Samsung itself. They know that Samsung copied the iPhone, and lets be honest here, they copied the dam iPhone, but they produced a product a million times better than the iPhone.
Samsung has some great technology, which is why its one of Apple's "Key Partners". I have owned three Samsung devices in the last year and they all were really good. Samsung has what it takes, but it is being limited by Apple. Why do you think the SGS3 is so ugly looking? To avoid Apple and its lawsuits.
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They are scared of Samsung itself. They know that Samsung copied the iPhone, and lets be honest here, they copied the dam iPhone, but they produced a product a million times better than the iPhone.
Samsung has some great technology, which is why its one of Apple's "Key Partners". I have owned three Samsung devices in the last year and they all were really good. Samsung has what it takes, but it is being limited by Apple. Why do you think the SGS3 is so ugly looking? To avoid Apple and its lawsuits.
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Looks better than the HTC X and the iPhone itself.
Apple deserves to win this case. Look at the points and cases they are bringing up against the Galaxy S 1. The UI was completely ripped off of them. In addition, Samsung's lawyers are a bunch of jackasses in court (read the Verge if you dont know what Im talking about). Now... some of the new patents Apple is getting are utter bull****. I was pissed when they tried to ban the GNex because of the search patent .
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Looks better than the HTC X and the iPhone itself.
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I lol'd. The Galaxy S3 pales in design when comparing it to those two
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Guys you cant ban something that already has tens of millions in the wild. Apple is definitely worried, because Steve only left them so much on his notes he kept and the iphone train is going to run out of steam after the next 2 iphones you mark my words, that is all he left them.
Buy another phone if you want, nothing in life is certain, but I would not worry one minute and use the phone you want now. Its already the best thing out there as is, once JB rolls out its a done deal. They have a removable battery and SD slot, doesnt sound like an iphone clone to me...And who cares if they ban the S1, its a totally different phone and old as hell to boot, it aint gonna happen. They must stop it before its released or it just doesnt work.
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Apple already put a stop to sales of one of Samsung's tablets. The s3 is next on their list. But I already have one so that part doesn't concern me. What does concern me is support for the s3 if Samsung is banned from selling it. It is hard to imagine them supporting a product that they can't sell. Plus, if the software is also banned (local search), will they even be able to support it if they want to?
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Why do you need support from Samsung? Just root and install custom roms, my old HTC Hero on Telus took over a year to get an update from 1.6 to eclair, but by then I was already running a custom rom.
I didn't mean to start an apple vs Samsung vs one x discussion. Honestly, I am amazed at how far mobile phones have come since I got my first Motorola Star Tac when I was in the military. I am just concerned about the future of my s3 in the event that apple wins in court. That said, I can see where apple is coming from. However, without competition from other manufacturers, there will be very few more advancements in the industry. Especially if every time someone produces a product that may or may not be better than apple, apple sues that company into submission. Imagine how it would be if car companies did the same thing. Or even something as simple as clothes detergent. My concern is not whether or not Samsung "will" support the s3 but whether not they will be able to due to restrictions placed on them by the courts that may prevent them from having the ability to support and improve on the s3
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I lol'd. The Galaxy S3 pales in design when comparing it to those two
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i lol'd at your lol. ur crazy dude
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-to-move-away-from-Android-Platform-this-year
This really sucks, I can't see myself owning anything but a Samsung phone.
Thoughts?
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Bye samsung, hello android nokia. Lol
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Till it is confirmed through Samsung themselves and not Bloomberg or this site or that site, I just can't believe it.
Samsung has always been about working with just about anything they could.
I know of Tizen, but thought that was for lower end phones until they felt confident moving ahead. So if true, then can't see it being as soon as this year.
Crazy if it does happen...hope they don't go the iOS way. If so, sucks!
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Its not all bad guys... A new OS mean new things to learn and a new experience to be had. I believed that the reason for the move is to provide the user with a better experience via the hardware they provide. I for one am willing to give them the chance to prove what they can do on their own.
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Its not all bad guys... A new OS mean new things to learn and a new experience to be had. I believed that the reason for the move is to provide the user with a better experience via the hardware they provide. I for one am willing to give them the chance to prove what they can do on their own.
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Sounds good but I found my new love. Used to be htc until they went to no removable battery or sdcard. Idk if the note 2 is like that but hey I'm sure every new os will look like one another lol
I'm fairly skeptical, the GS3 has been an outstanding success for Samsung, absolutely dominating Android phone sales. I have trouble believing they would abandon Android completely for their own proprietary smartphone OS. They have the benefit of seeing the demise of RIM and the snails pace growth of Windows Phone to show them that the market can't accommodate another OS.
Just like a year and a half ago they "were" gonna drop android and revamp BADA too much money making with android why leave it. .
Can't say that I believe it either.
Android has made their mobile division the success that it is today.
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If this is true i quit life.
https://www.tizen.org/about
The article says they'd use "Tizen" instead, which sounds like it's more geared towards tv's and other "smart" devices, which would let them have a unified experience between people's tv's and phones. but with the lack of a fully fleshed out app marketplace, i think samsung would be retarded to go that route. seems like a far fetched suggestion to me. better to put android in your tv than your tv on your phone...
I really hope they don't, The S3 is my fifth smartphone, I started with the huawei ascend, optimus v, motorola triumph, then the S2 and S3. I cannot see myself going to htc, Motorola, or any other company. I was planning on rocking the Galaxy S25 in 20 years lol
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HAHA If they do that i would rather have an iphone, samsung can't make UI's on their own LOL. ABANDONING SHIP as post #2
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HAHA If they do that i would rather have an iphone, samsung can't make UI's on their own LOL. ABANDONING SHIP as post #2
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LOL Samsung just sold 40 million sgs3s... so after they produce the best selling android ever, they're gonna leave? Doubtful
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HAHA If they do that i would rather have an iphone, samsung can't make UI's on their own LOL. ABANDONING SHIP as post #2
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Alright I wouldn't go as far as getting an iphone, but it would be hard to choose any other Android to replace the samsung lineup. Especially since a lot of phones are coming without ext sd and non removable battery.
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Can't believe it! ! I hope this is not true! Because Samsung and android together are the best!
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I can already see apple plotting their attack.
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I dont see it happening either the response would be too negative
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COME ON GUYS you really think Samsung is gonna quit Android? Remember that they quit their own os because android ruled!!!! and they know it
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COME ON GUYS you really think Samsung is gonna quit Android? Remember that they quit their own os because android ruled!!!! and they know it
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but they make so much money of Android, they can test out their abandoned OS with the money they got. Still, If they leave Android and fail they come back, but not the consumer.