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[Q] SipDroid and Google Voice

anyone else here find this combination as awesome as i do? i mean, you get 2000 minutes of free calling over wifi/3g data with this. pretty damn good deal in my opinion. it allowed me to drop my plan from the simply everything to the 450min/everything data plan.

How does it work?

I get unlimited minutes thanks to Google Voice and Sipgate One. I just use Fring for a SIP client instead, since it's a good deal more stable and clearer.

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it initiates a voice over IP call with either wifi or your phones data connection instead of using cellular minutes. just like if you have phone service through your isp.

i use pbxes.org. i just configured fring with it and they sound about the same to be but sipdroid is a little spotty sometimes. we'll see. i tried sipgate one and couldnt get it to righ through to my phone or make outgoing calls. any suggestions?

client discussion- sipdroid vs fring
I tried sipdroid and it's GV integration which works fine (when it works) but it's not reliable enough to use regularly. Specifically, much of the time on incoming calls it rings but when I answer there's no sound on either end so no go...
Fring and sipgate has proven more reliable. I forward my GV number to my sipgate number (voice mail turned off) and fring will ring. This allows all my incoming calls to go over data. The quality is not landline good but it's intelligible and in general better than sipdroid. Plus, so far I have had no audio issues with Fring. I'd prefer to use sipdroid but no go unless it's more reliable. If someone has figured out the audio issue please let us know. I don't think it's a codec problem or at least modifying them didn't have any effect on the reliability.

reference below- just set up sipgate credentials in fring then have GV forward to your sipgate number. Just add it as a landline, etc as with any other line. You can test when GV calls the line to verify it. So fring in this configuration works reliably- much more reliably than sipdroid. The quality isn't perfect but it's "tin can" ok. My guess is Fring is using some very low bandwidth codec and the quality is a good as it's going to get over mobile data lines.

I got this set up.....but I have the SIPgate/SIP Sorcery through pbxes.org going to SIPDroid. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff, but it works really, really well. I tried fring, and it would always drop out. Without the pbxes.org, the audio was not the best...

Trying to get Sipgate + Gvoice set up.

Hey guys, I have a sipgate + google voice set up and it's all going great, but I happen to live in a very low quality reception area and will pretty much always be on EDGE and with only a 15-25 kbps download speed.
I would love to use wifi, but I live in a dorm where there is no public wifi (or wifi at all for that matter).
Anyway, my question is, are there any ways to lower the quality of the calls incoming and outgoing? I tried making a call earlier and the other person heard the message literally almost 15 seconds after I said it and it was almost completely garbled. Aren't there ways to make a voice call only use like 8kbps?
I am using the built in SIP client with Gingerbread and a sipgate account. I have no problems switching SIP providers as long as it's free.
This is very important to me, because I need it to call my parents back in the states for free because I am in Israel studying for a year.

I'm not positive because I haven't tried it myself, but I believe you can use pbxes to route communications between your sipgate account and your SIP client. Pbxes allows the use of other codecs and lower bitrates, so it should allow for a little better quality when you have a poor connection. Accounts are available at http://pbxes.org/.
You should do a Google search on pbxes, sipgate, and Google Voice. I know there are some guides out there on how to set it up...

[Q] Going to Mexico, option for calls?

I plan to travel to Mexico in a few weeks for a much needed escape from these bitter cold Wisconsin winters.
I plan to stop into Sprint to see what options I'd have for using my phone while there. Though I'm still worried as I've heard horror stories of people following what carriers tell them and still racking up huge call or data charges.
Questions:
I'm using a Gingerbread rom, would SIP be an option?
Would making calls through Google voice make any difference?
My hope is, if I have access to wifi I will be able to make VOIP calls or something of the sort.

Google voice will not save you anything. SIP internet calling will. Setup with sipgate or something similar. But internet calling will ONLY help you if you are on a wifi network. If you are data roaming a cell tower, you will get screwed.
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What part of Mexico? I used VOIP on wifi at the resort in Cozumel, almost every hotel there has wifi.

first week of having my evo i went to cancun. hand full of text just about everyday, about 3-4 calls on the last couple of days there, and a bunch of playing around on the web (new phone, had to play with it) netted me about $45 of international fees.

Just buy a international plan for that month so you wont get charge that's much safer and easier instead of having those high bills people get

if you have an old GSM phone just unlock it and use telcel over there, its definitely the cheapest option. text messages are only a peso, even when sending to the U.S.

What about using roam control?

Cheapest method:
1) Put phone into Airplane mode. DO NOT TURN THIS OFF UNTIL YOU GET BACK. If you restart the phone and it's no longer in Airplane mode, PUT IT BACK INTO AIRPLANE MODE.
2) Get Google Voice. Set it up on your phone and all that.
3) Sign up for Sipgate One. It's free and has unlimited incoming calls.
4) Add your Sipgate SIP credentials as a SIP account in Gingerbread (the SIP credentials are to the right on the settings page on sipgate.com). Turn on "Receive calls".
5) Add both your cellular and Sipgate numbers to Google Voice. Have Sipgate be a home number. You should receive the call from Google Voice just fine via Sipgate.
6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. Give people your GV number and instruct them to call you.
7) In Sipgate, remove all of the forwarding options. You do not want Sipgate taking your voicemail for you, of course. Go to Sipgate.com > Settings > Voicemail, Call Forwarding & Hunting, and just delete everything in the list.
8) Try it out! Call your GV number from home or a friend's cellphone. You should get the call via Sipgate. Any texts you send/receive via GV will also be free.
Now, here's the caveat: To make calls, you need to sign onto a computer, go to the GV website, click the "call" button in the upper-left corner, and select your Sipgate number to call with, and then punch in the phone number you want to call. If you've added and sync'd up your Google account on your phone, all of your contacts will be in there already, so you can just type in a few letters/numbers of their name/number and it will auto-fill, kinda like Google Instant.
Enjoy!

good luck going to Mexico that drug war and violence is crazy right now I went in the summer and heard gun fire and **** all over that place hopefully your flying cause if your not....... be safe bro
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Cheapest method:
1) Put phone into Airplane mode. DO NOT TURN THIS OFF UNTIL YOU GET BACK. If you restart the phone and it's no longer in Airplane mode, PUT IT BACK INTO AIRPLANE MODE.
2) Get Google Voice. Set it up on your phone and all that.
3) Sign up for Sipgate One. It's free and has unlimited incoming calls.
4) Add your Sipgate SIP credentials as a SIP account in Gingerbread (the SIP credentials are to the right on the settings page on sipgate.com). Turn on "Receive calls".
5) Add both your cellular and Sipgate numbers to Google Voice. Have Sipgate be a home number. You should receive the call from Google Voice just fine via Sipgate.
6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. Give people your GV number and instruct them to call you.
7) In Sipgate, remove all of the forwarding options. You do not want Sipgate taking your voicemail for you, of course. Go to Sipgate.com > Settings > Voicemail, Call Forwarding & Hunting, and just delete everything in the list.
8) Try it out! Call your GV number from home or a friend's cellphone. You should get the call via Sipgate. Any texts you send/receive via GV will also be free.
Now, here's the caveat: To make calls, you need to sign onto a computer, go to the GV website, click the "call" button in the upper-left corner, and select your Sipgate number to call with, and then punch in the phone number you want to call. If you've added and sync'd up your Google account on your phone, all of your contacts will be in there already, so you can just type in a few letters/numbers of their name/number and it will auto-fill, kinda like Google Instant.
Enjoy!
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Thanks for the detailed walkthrough. The only part I couldn't figure out was step 6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. I couldn't find where to do this.

i just went to mexico a few weeks ago, and stayed on airplane mode (with wifi on) the whole time. if you are going to a tourist trap, you should be fine on the wifi side. if you like going to the more authenitc, poorer touns like me, you might be in trouble.

cesjr02 said:
Thanks for the detailed walkthrough. The only part I couldn't figure out was step 6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. I couldn't find where to do this.
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Head over to the Google Voice website, click Settings>Voice Settings, select the Phone tab, un-check your cellphone in the list, and check your Sipgate number. Direct link (may or may not work): https://www.google.com/voice/b/0#phones

Works great, issue is only sipgate to sipgate calls are free and unlimited. You get 60 minutes a month and I'm down to 52 already just from testing.
I could always add minutes, the rate seems reasonable enough. Mainly I just need it for important calls, I don't plan to do much chit-chatting in Mexico anyway.
And for those who asked, I'm going to Huatulco, just south of Oaxaca. The resort I'm staying at has wifi.

cesjr02 said:
Works great, issue is only sipgate to sipgate calls are free and unlimited. You get 60 minutes a month and I'm down to 52 already just from testing.
I could always add minutes, the rate seems reasonable enough. Mainly I just need it for important calls, I don't plan to do much chit-chatting in Mexico anyway.
And for those who asked, I'm going to Huatulco, just south of Oaxaca. The resort I'm staying at has wifi.
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Incorrect. Inbound calls to your Sipgate number are free. If your minutes are decreasing from inbound calls, and you have a Sipgate One account, email them and cite this tweet:
https://twitter.com/sipgate/status/18775978030

The best option I've found for calling back to the states from foreign countries is to use my laptop and take advantage of the free calling from Gmail. Calls are very clear and all calls to the US are free.

Tmobile $30 Data Plan + SIP + Google Voice = I have this setup wrong

So I have been looking around here, searching (unsuccessfully) on how to setup Google Voice (GV) to use only data on 3g and wifi. I see no settings in GV or ICS for this. How do I set this up using GV to dial only data and no voice?
Can I simply go to:
Phone (stock app) >Settings > Use Internet Calling > For all calls when data is available
And then:
Google Voice (downloaded App) > Settings > Making Calls > Use Google Voice to Make all calls
Will these settings work successfully or do I need to purchase an app like Groove IP to get the result I am looking for?
I also signed up for an SIP account at sip2sip and tried to configure a SIP account in the phone, but the account wont configure properly on the phone.
Anyways I am all over the place here, some guidance from someone with more knowledge than myself would be great
Thanks!

There's a misconception that Google Voice is a VOIP service. It is not, it is simply a call forwarding service. When someone dials your GV# it simply forwards to one or more other numbers. Downloading the GV app doesn't enable or allow native VOIP calls on the phone.
The only way to get a VOIP solution going with Google Voice is to have it forward calls to Google Talk (what you'd usually do to make and receive calls in GMail), and use an app like GrooVe IP or Talkatone to intercept those and relay them to your phone.
These basic VOIP service layers for GV aren't as good as they sound. They can work quite well when configured properly on WiFi, but don't expect to make quality calls walking down the street on 3G. The codecs they use just require too much consistent bandwidth and don't work well on mobile networks.
There are other more complex SIP systems that you can pay for and have your GV# forward to, but for that I recommend you head to general and read the VOIP thread.
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Appreciate it, will take a gander over to the voip.
I get fairly consistent 8down and 2up using tmo here so Id like to at least try!
Worst comes to worst I can put my old work sim in for service

Hi Quarkboy!
I am using T-mobile $30 plan, grooveip, google voice to do exactly what you describe. I used it this past week in both Boston and Chicago. I have a new to me used not yet unrooted HTC sensation, DL speeds I get 2mbs to 4 mbs. Calls are "clear", I don't and listeners don't hear static, but, everything sounds a little "thin" and "tinny". I plan to try talkatone next.
IMO, the sound quality is not poor enough to abandon grooveip for most calls, but, for an important call I'd probably use plan minutes.
GL!

Yes. If you want it to make all calls, just set it to that. I have used it and confirmed on my bill that it works
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Ive got nothing but good things to say about talkatone.
Easy setup...good options...great app!
Try itZ!
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Yup. Talkatone is the way to go.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.

Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.

pinoyplaya4life said:
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yes you do get charged minutes with just gv. Use talkatone to call without minutes. Play around in the settings to get it just right. You know it's right when you can make and receive calls on airplane mode our without the Sim in the phone. Additionally, most importantly make sure to log into the desktop version of gv and forward all calls to google talk.

ziddey said:
To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
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Interesting. I just signed up and I'm trying to get it set up with the built in Internet Calling features in Android.
If I set Google Voice and Internet Calling to Ask Each Time I get this:
Call with Google Voice > Dials using Cell
Call with Cell > Asks me to chose internet or cell
So that doesn't seem to be what is expected. Although I suppose I could reduce minutes by receiving calls over gv.
Finally, does anyone know if pbxes.org keeps you logged into gtalk on their servers 24/7?

[Q] VOIP using Talkatone with Google Voice and Sprint

Hey guys,
I tried searching for anything relating to this and I haven't found anything on this forum or Google thats helpful.
Issue: NO SERVICE!!! I work in a government building that has 0 reception inside (I also work in the basement). I also get almost no reception in my house, but i have an airave so that's resolved for the most part.
I would like to set up VOIP somehow without having to create a new number to give to people. I'm hoping to find someone who has done this already with success.
My thought is to install and set up google voice using my sprint number, and then integrate google voice into talkatone. That way I can call/text over wifi for free because it is still using my sprint number, just over a data connection instead of cell. I'm on a good family plan with a business discount, so this isn't me trying to get out of paying for cell minutes, my bill for 4 people is 200 bucks (we all have premium data). I just want to be able to receive my messages and calls while I'm at work on just a wifi signal. Unfortunately about a month ago my fiancees father unexpectedly passed and I didn't find out until I left work hours later because I never received a message.
If this is a taboo conversation I apologize (if its possible, the resources are already out there) or if nobody knows I understand. I was just hoping for some insight because I've heard complaints with people trying to integrate their sprint number to google voice.

So I took some time and did some individual research of each app and the google voice integration.
Google Voice itself does not all VOIP, which is where talkatone comes in. Most 3rd party VOIP apps require the person you are calling/texting to also have that app, or you need to create a new number through that app and give it out to everybody you want to communicate with over a data connection.
Talkatone works with Google Voice, which is why it's free, and the benefit of being on Sprint is that you can make your Google Voice number your Sprint Mobile number, therefore being able to make free calls and texts over wifi/3g/4g without spending any money. If you decide to go international you would only have to add a credit to google voice for international calls (which is significantly cheaper then the international rate from sprint).
I believe this is a very unknown loophole in sprints eyes that is completely legal and does not break the terms of service. They are the ones who have a contract with Google Voice to allow you to use your own number, then talkatone works on top of google voice to provide VOIP.
In essence I answered my own question, but I hope to have provided some insight to other people that have service issues with sprint.
I welcome anybody who uses this exact set up or just google voice to chime in with any issues they have experienced, or success stories.

I use GrooveIP to do this on my wifi only evo shift

CNexus said:
I use GrooveIP to do this on my wifi only evo shift
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What ive read is that because it works through google voice and google voice isn't considered a "mobile number" then any person you call that has a mobile-to-mobile feature will not take advantage of it, it will actually go towards their minutes. it doesnt hurt you because you arent using any minutes, but it hurts them. especially on a family plan.

Well obviously. It basically lets you use your disconnected device as phone whenever you have wifi.
For real "free" services, each person needs to be in on the same thing.