anyone else here find this combination as awesome as i do? i mean, you get 2000 minutes of free calling over wifi/3g data with this. pretty damn good deal in my opinion. it allowed me to drop my plan from the simply everything to the 450min/everything data plan.
How does it work?
I get unlimited minutes thanks to Google Voice and Sipgate One. I just use Fring for a SIP client instead, since it's a good deal more stable and clearer.
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it initiates a voice over IP call with either wifi or your phones data connection instead of using cellular minutes. just like if you have phone service through your isp.
i use pbxes.org. i just configured fring with it and they sound about the same to be but sipdroid is a little spotty sometimes. we'll see. i tried sipgate one and couldnt get it to righ through to my phone or make outgoing calls. any suggestions?
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I tried sipdroid and it's GV integration which works fine (when it works) but it's not reliable enough to use regularly. Specifically, much of the time on incoming calls it rings but when I answer there's no sound on either end so no go...
Fring and sipgate has proven more reliable. I forward my GV number to my sipgate number (voice mail turned off) and fring will ring. This allows all my incoming calls to go over data. The quality is not landline good but it's intelligible and in general better than sipdroid. Plus, so far I have had no audio issues with Fring. I'd prefer to use sipdroid but no go unless it's more reliable. If someone has figured out the audio issue please let us know. I don't think it's a codec problem or at least modifying them didn't have any effect on the reliability.
reference below- just set up sipgate credentials in fring then have GV forward to your sipgate number. Just add it as a landline, etc as with any other line. You can test when GV calls the line to verify it. So fring in this configuration works reliably- much more reliably than sipdroid. The quality isn't perfect but it's "tin can" ok. My guess is Fring is using some very low bandwidth codec and the quality is a good as it's going to get over mobile data lines.
I got this set up.....but I have the SIPgate/SIP Sorcery through pbxes.org going to SIPDroid. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff, but it works really, really well. I tried fring, and it would always drop out. Without the pbxes.org, the audio was not the best...
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Hi,
This is a new thing for me (yes, I am too late in this kind of VOIP service).
Which one is better for Android, judging for the client app?
If I read from the Nimbuzz at Cyrket, a lot of users complaint about the new version 1.4, Facebook got hacked, etc.
Fring also does not look satisfying.
So, if you are using this, which one do you recommend? and why?
For me, client reliability and network / connectivity are the most important.
Thanks for sharing !
Damn ...
I found that NimbuzzOut is not supported on Nimbuzz Android app
I want to use it to make international calls to land-line / mobile ...
calling to mobile and landlines works. just tried it. it took cash from my skype account
edit: i see. nimbuzz have their own system.
So, if I buy Skype credits ... then I can make call to mobile and landlines using Nimbuzz client, right? Because there is no native Skype client for Android ...
I prefer Nimbuzz own call system (NimbuzzOut), because it is much cheaper compare to Skype.
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calling to mobile and landlines works. just tried it. it took cash from my skype account
edit: i see. nimbuzz have their own system.
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Yes if u have a skype account you buy skype credits and in nimbuzz justr login to your skype account .Voila.
Can you send SMS with either?
Nimbuzz says it sends it but it actually doesnt. havent tried with Fring.
..I read in the other thread about Nimbuzz that "it´s is always connected and it does not support push notification, so is draining alot battery.."
Well I used fring before, which was enough for my needs to have several account (skype,icq...), than I tried Nimbuzz and liked to have my Faceb. account, cool..BUT: the drain is real! Fring need much less battery!..but no FB
nimbuzz doesnt appear to have sip support in android client yet, big turn off for me, since im trying to consolidate messenger/communications apps.
sipdroid sounded like crap on my phone
fring seems pretty good, sip aim msn support and sip sounds really good quality, except its UI is ugly as balls, anyone know a way to skin it differently?
ive been using google voice with a gizmo5 number and setting up the sip account in fring and it connects pretty nicely for voip, its nice so far when i am home and have no cell reception and someone calls my cell(google voice number) and it sends the call to my sip client(fring)
I've tested both for making Skype-out calls. Both work fine. I'd prefer Nimbuzz because of the interface. But is it just me, or is there no dialer in Nimbuzz? This is the only reason I'm sticking with Fring at the moment...
I gotta say that I tried both and Nimbuzz was a clear winner for voice quality over wifi to Skype friends. Fring also has a slight delay in audio.
But I've kept Fring because of fring-a-ling (SIP calls) which work fine.
Does anybody know of any VOIP calling to international numbers for absolutely free for windows mobile. Cause im sick and tired of 200 dollar bills coming into my mail.
Thanks.
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Does anybody know of any VOIP calling to international numbers for absolutely free for windows mobile. Cause im sick and tired of 200 dollar bills coming into my mail.
Thanks.
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Absolutely free. I'm sure we would all want that.
Free calls to landlines don't exist. But what's wrong with Skype? The rates are ridiculously low.
http://www.skype.com/prices/callrates/
I've used fring. My landline is much cheaper. But if you add up all the minutes, It becomes expensive, especially to germany and UK. It's like 29 cents/min. Thats ALOT.
Is there a way to make WIFI calls only like on a BlackBerry? Can EVO do it natively or maybe theres an app to do it Thanks
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Is there a way to make WIFI calls only like on a BlackBerry? Can EVO do it natively or maybe theres an app to do it Thanks
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using the normal dialer, i think it's only possible with the Airave device from sprint. another option would be using a voip software but i personally dont use any.
After more research I realize that the company BB was on TMOBILE which uses UMA to connect thru wifi to the TMobile network what an awesome option as i used it in mexico to make free calls home! Now the company switched to Sprint Blackberrys I have no way to contact home when I go to korea. I have an EVO and a BB both on sprint and seem F'ed on contact home this suxz! Thanks for the help
Google voice. Fring. Skype.
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Here's a solution I found:
1) Switch over EVERYTHING to Google Voice. Have people only call/text you via GV.
2) Install Fring
3) Get Sipgate One. SO has unlimited free inbound calling (and if you know GV, you know what that means...)
4) Setup your Google Voice to call both your cell number, and your Sipgate One number.
5) In Fring, add your Sipgate account as your SIP account. Set proxy as sipgate.com and get your SIP username and password from your Sipgate settings.
6) In Sipgate's settings, clear out all of the forwarding rules, so that no matter what, Google Voice will manage your voicemail.
7) Turn off your cell connection by activating Airplane Mode.
8) Turn on WiFi.
9) Start calls via a computer's browser, at voice.google.com.
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Here's a solution I found:
1) Switch over EVERYTHING to Google Voice. Have people only call/text you via GV.
2) Install Fring
3) Get Sipgate One. SO has unlimited free inbound calling (and if you know GV, you know what that means...)
4) Setup your Google Voice to call both your cell number, and your Sipgate One number.
5) In Fring, add your Sipgate account as your SIP account. Set proxy as sipgate.com and get your SIP username and password from your Sipgate settings.
6) In Sipgate's settings, clear out all of the forwarding rules, so that no matter what, Google Voice will manage your voicemail.
7) Turn off your cell connection by activating Airplane Mode.
8) Turn on WiFi.
9) Start calls via a computer's browser, at voice.google.com.
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Wow you deserve lots of man love for that one! thanks! Worked like a charm for me
Hey guys, I have a sipgate + google voice set up and it's all going great, but I happen to live in a very low quality reception area and will pretty much always be on EDGE and with only a 15-25 kbps download speed.
I would love to use wifi, but I live in a dorm where there is no public wifi (or wifi at all for that matter).
Anyway, my question is, are there any ways to lower the quality of the calls incoming and outgoing? I tried making a call earlier and the other person heard the message literally almost 15 seconds after I said it and it was almost completely garbled. Aren't there ways to make a voice call only use like 8kbps?
I am using the built in SIP client with Gingerbread and a sipgate account. I have no problems switching SIP providers as long as it's free.
This is very important to me, because I need it to call my parents back in the states for free because I am in Israel studying for a year.
I'm not positive because I haven't tried it myself, but I believe you can use pbxes to route communications between your sipgate account and your SIP client. Pbxes allows the use of other codecs and lower bitrates, so it should allow for a little better quality when you have a poor connection. Accounts are available at http://pbxes.org/.
You should do a Google search on pbxes, sipgate, and Google Voice. I know there are some guides out there on how to set it up...
So I have been looking around here, searching (unsuccessfully) on how to setup Google Voice (GV) to use only data on 3g and wifi. I see no settings in GV or ICS for this. How do I set this up using GV to dial only data and no voice?
Can I simply go to:
Phone (stock app) >Settings > Use Internet Calling > For all calls when data is available
And then:
Google Voice (downloaded App) > Settings > Making Calls > Use Google Voice to Make all calls
Will these settings work successfully or do I need to purchase an app like Groove IP to get the result I am looking for?
I also signed up for an SIP account at sip2sip and tried to configure a SIP account in the phone, but the account wont configure properly on the phone.
Anyways I am all over the place here, some guidance from someone with more knowledge than myself would be great
Thanks!
There's a misconception that Google Voice is a VOIP service. It is not, it is simply a call forwarding service. When someone dials your GV# it simply forwards to one or more other numbers. Downloading the GV app doesn't enable or allow native VOIP calls on the phone.
The only way to get a VOIP solution going with Google Voice is to have it forward calls to Google Talk (what you'd usually do to make and receive calls in GMail), and use an app like GrooVe IP or Talkatone to intercept those and relay them to your phone.
These basic VOIP service layers for GV aren't as good as they sound. They can work quite well when configured properly on WiFi, but don't expect to make quality calls walking down the street on 3G. The codecs they use just require too much consistent bandwidth and don't work well on mobile networks.
There are other more complex SIP systems that you can pay for and have your GV# forward to, but for that I recommend you head to general and read the VOIP thread.
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Appreciate it, will take a gander over to the voip.
I get fairly consistent 8down and 2up using tmo here so Id like to at least try!
Worst comes to worst I can put my old work sim in for service
Hi Quarkboy!
I am using T-mobile $30 plan, grooveip, google voice to do exactly what you describe. I used it this past week in both Boston and Chicago. I have a new to me used not yet unrooted HTC sensation, DL speeds I get 2mbs to 4 mbs. Calls are "clear", I don't and listeners don't hear static, but, everything sounds a little "thin" and "tinny". I plan to try talkatone next.
IMO, the sound quality is not poor enough to abandon grooveip for most calls, but, for an important call I'd probably use plan minutes.
GL!
Yes. If you want it to make all calls, just set it to that. I have used it and confirmed on my bill that it works
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Ive got nothing but good things to say about talkatone.
Easy setup...good options...great app!
Try itZ!
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Yup. Talkatone is the way to go.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yes you do get charged minutes with just gv. Use talkatone to call without minutes. Play around in the settings to get it just right. You know it's right when you can make and receive calls on airplane mode our without the Sim in the phone. Additionally, most importantly make sure to log into the desktop version of gv and forward all calls to google talk.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
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Interesting. I just signed up and I'm trying to get it set up with the built in Internet Calling features in Android.
If I set Google Voice and Internet Calling to Ask Each Time I get this:
Call with Google Voice > Dials using Cell
Call with Cell > Asks me to chose internet or cell
So that doesn't seem to be what is expected. Although I suppose I could reduce minutes by receiving calls over gv.
Finally, does anyone know if pbxes.org keeps you logged into gtalk on their servers 24/7?
What is the best setup you found for incoming/outgoing Google Voice VOIP calls on a (Sprint) Galaxy Nexus? Interested in apps that work very well over wi-fi only, not over mobile data.
I'm looking for something that has great voice quality and also integrates seamlessly with the native dialer so that when not on wifi it makes phone calls over the cell radio and when on wi-fi it makes VOIP calls using Google Voice.
I see pbxes.org mentioned a lot. Is it worth the trouble given that they store the GV password on their server and then from what I understand they have to re-code from the GV codec to whatever codec the SIP client on the phone negotiates with the pbxes servers - I hope my understanding of how it works is correct.
Other options I've seen mentioned: Groove IP, Spare Phone, Talkatone.
Not sure which approach works best, maybe the experts here can save me some research time.
And as a SIP client, what works well? I tried the native phone SIP client with a SIP VOIP service and it sounded terrible, not sure why the native one doesn't work well.
Thanks for your help.
I use groove IP no problems
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Anyone else? What's your great Google Voice setup?
I use GrooveIP as well. But I really want to get my pbxes.org working on my call setting. That is what I am going to work on today.
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Thanks, this is interesting but unfortunately it is too cumbersome to use by the person I'm setting up the phone for. I'd like a solution that's fully automated, use 1 dialer only (either native or a different app) that can smartly route calls via GV when on wifi (at home) or cell when not on wifi.
You can setup your PBXes account just like the tutorials (with SIPdroid) and then put the account info into the regular dialer. I think the extra steps to use the stock dialer were in a wiki somewhere or some external webpage (not on this forum).
You only need SIPdroid to create the free extension on PBXes and follow the tutorials to get all setup. Then you can go into the stock dialer and put in accountname-200, password, and then pbxes.org as the domain. You can choose to receive calls on wifi only or while on a data connection with a checkbox. I've heard that the codec used with the stock dialer isn't that great, though. It's one of those things you'd have to tryout for yourself.
One dialer to send and receive calls. It even lets you know if it's a data call or not. Maybe this is something you wanted to look into?
What SIP client pairs well with PBXes? I know the stock dialer SIP is very poor, I tried it with another SIP service and the call quality was mediocre, while their dedicated client worked very well, so at least I know it's not the phone hardware, it's the software.
I also read about potential latency issues with PBXes because they only have 1 server in NY. Is that still the case or the latency issues have been resolved? I guess in general I'm looking for a fairly reliable service though I'm prepared to accept occasional hiccups.
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What is the best setup you found for incoming/outgoing Google Voice VOIP calls on a (Sprint) Galaxy Nexus? Interested in apps that work very well over wi-fi only, not over mobile data.
I'm looking for something that has great voice quality and also integrates seamlessly with the native dialer so that when not on wifi it makes phone calls over the cell radio and when on wi-fi it makes VOIP calls using Google Voice.
I see pbxes.org mentioned a lot. Is it worth the trouble given that they store the GV password on their server and then from what I understand they have to re-code from the GV codec to whatever codec the SIP client on the phone negotiates with the pbxes servers - I hope my understanding of how it works is correct.
Other options I've seen mentioned: Groove IP, Spare Phone, Talkatone.
Not sure which approach works best, maybe the experts here can save me some research time.
And as a SIP client, what works well? I tried the native phone SIP client with a SIP VOIP servic e and it sounded terrible, not sure why the native one doesn't work well.
Thanks for your help.
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Mr.binglejellsx2 is almost correct. I have been deal with more than 15 apps to get best. create a account by using sipdroid. make sure you have got green dot and place one out going and incoming call via sipdroid. Exit sipdroid from your phone. go to pbxes.org and login under extension under sipdroid 200 (from left) than right, under device option retype your password. (means you are get ride of sipdroid and ready for new sip). in your phone open sipdroid and make sure your got yellow and exit. in your phone call setting, add new account, your username-200 password, server is pbxes.org under option make sure your port is 5060 and not uda must be tcp. hit back and your phone should say receiving call. If not working go to pbxes.org and re type password same extension and under personal data enter your password two times where required and submit start (means, you dont want sipdroid, the second sip and now ready for any new getaway which will be your native sip) this must work. I don't see best call quality anywhere. this is awesome especially for wifi. just like your carrier. I use this everyday for international call.. let me know if don't work. If works just enjoy..
Thanks for your reply. I've been using Groove IP with very good results over wifi (that's what I care about, Sprint 3G mobile data is so bad anyway that it can't carry a call). The paid Groove IP integrates nicely with the native dialer too, so the experience is good.
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Thanks for your reply. I've been using Groove IP with very good results over wifi (that's what I care about, Sprint 3G mobile data is so bad anyway that it can't carry a call). The paid Groove IP integrates nicely with the native dialer too, so the experience is good.
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You are very welcome. Glad that you have got the good one. Good people always have good only..