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I was wondering if calling with google voice number from the evo uses minutes or uses data...
i have the unlimited mobile but only 450 on landlines.
so i wanted to see if its a call forward to a land line that then connects me to the number i am dialing... dont want to go over my 450
uses mins i believe. there is a way if you have any 3 numbers to use gv unlimited
Google Voice uses regular calls, not data, but it can use data.
Mmmkay, how Google Voice works, is that when someone calls your GV number, it just passes along the call to you (forwarding, in other words). If that person is calling your GV number from a cellphone, it'll then be like you're getting a call from a cellphone, and count towards your AnyMobile AnyTime minutes.
When you "call" someone with Google Voice, what happens is that first Google creates a call from them to your phone, and then from them to your destination (like a conference call) and then leaves the call themselves. Think of it as a someone introducing two friends with each other, and then leaving them alone to talk.
Now, if you want to use data to make and receive calls, that's where it gets tricky. You'll need Google Voice, a Sipgate One account, and Sipdroid on your EVO (Don't worry about when Sipdroid tells you to go off and get some account somewhere like PBXes, you can just ignore that). Get GV and Sipgate setup, then add your Sipgate phone number in GV as a phone to ring on incoming calls (set it up as a landline, not cell phone). In Sipgate, remove all forwarding (voicemail) rules so that it'll never redirect a call to Sipgate's voicemail system.
Now, in Sipdroid, we'll add your Sipgate account. Your Authorization Username, password, Server and Domain are all found on your Sipgate settings page (on the right, underneath the buttons to add phones is "SIP Credentials"). Your "Server of Proxy" and Domain are both sipgate.com. "Username or Caller ID" is left empty since it'd just be the same as the Authorization Username. Port 5060, UDP (should be default). Go ahead and tweak your settings (I recommend setting Preferred Call Type to "Phone") and make sure to change Call OIption to include "Use WLAN" and "Use 3G".
So now, when you have a decent data connection, Sipdroid can take incoming calls from Google Voice (which will technically include "outgoing" calls). Unfortunately, you cannot use Sipdroid, or even the Google Voice app to intiate calls. You'll have to use a computer to do that or fiddle around with your browser to be in Desktop mode, and go to the Google Voice webpage.
Hope that's not too confusing...
I am getting ready to go on vacation to T&C for two weeks on Sunday. Last time I left the country and made calls back home on a global cell phone I had a couple hundred dollar bill. Is it possible for me to call my friends/family back home in the US while out of the country and on WiFi over a VOIP program for cheap or free calls? I thought Google Voice was the answer but doesn't seem to be what I want. Also, it would be preferred if the recipient did not have to install anything on their phone.
Any suggestions?
Evaphone.com
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the site works, too bad you can only call for 30 seconds.
Too bad Skype's android app got crippled AND moved over to Verizon.. so lame.
Fring used to do this too when they allowed Skype.
Stupid Skype.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548405
Thanks... Is there an app I could download to use in conjunction with Google Voice maybe? Evaphone seems like it may work but I would have to buy minutes at the rate of 15 cents. A free option would be great
Fring only works with other phones that have Fring installed, correct?
scirio said:
Too bad Skype's android app got crippled AND moved over to Verizon.. so lame.
Fring used to do this too when they allowed Skype.
Stupid Skype.
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wait wut? i thought skype was getting updated for android to allow voice/video calling
also the sipsocery doesn't work anymore. need invites to register
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Mmmkay, here's what you do.
1) Go get a Google Voice account with a local number. Get that all setup so it'll ring your cellphone (trust me, just stick with this).
2) Head on over to Sipgate.com and sign up for a free Sipgate One account. When it asks for a phone number to verify that you're not a bot registering, give it your real cellphone number. Don't worry if you can't get a "local" number and only wind up with something in California (don't worry, just follow the instructions).
3) Download and install Sipdroid on your EVO. Make sure to set "Preferred Call Type" to "Phone" (otherwise Sipdroid will always take over for all outbound calls. This is bad when you get back in the country, and because Sipdroid doesn't play well with Sipgate for outbound calls, which also cost money on Sipgate). For the SIP Account settings, grab these off your control panel on Sipgate's website (Go to Settings, then on the right-hand side, you'll see "SIP Credentials". Click that) and use the SIP-ID and SIP-Password for the Authorization Username and Password fields in Sipdroid, appropriately. Use "sipgate.com" for Server or Proxy and Domain. Leave Username, Port, and Protocol as-is. Next, go to the Call Options menu in Sipdroid, and enable "Use WLAN", "Use 3G", and "Use EDGE" (Yes, there's no EDGE on CDMA, but it's just to prevent issues). While you're out of the country, you can disable "Use 3G' and "Use EDGE" to force all calls to be WiFi-only.
4) In Sipgate's settings, go to the Forwarding section, and clear out all of the rules (We don't want Sipgate to handle voicemail, as Google Voice will be taking care of that).
5) Add your Sipgate number to Google Voice's list of phones. Make sure to mark it as a landline (not a cellphone) and that you have Sipdroid open and connected when you go to do the verification. Congratulations, you're all set up!
Now, when you leave the country, open up GV online, disable your cellphone's number (your Sprint number, not your Sipgate number) as an available phone. Set Sipdroid to only use WLAN, and I'd recommend putting your phone in Airplane mode with just WiFi turned on. Now people can call and text your Google Voice number (you can install the Google Voice app on your EVO to manage voicemails and texts, and when you get back in the country, to handle calls, too!). To make calls, that's a little more tricky. You have to open up the Google Voice site in a full browser (you can try setting your UAString and all that to Desktop on your EVO's browser, but it doesn't work too well), and then click the "Call" button in the top-left, and select your Sipgate number as the phone to call with, type in the phone number to call, and hit Connect.
Now, the beauty of it all: How GV works is when you have an incoming call, they just forward the call to your number. When you make an outgoing call, GV calls you, then establishes a conference call between you and the destination. As soon as that happens, GV "leaves" the conference call, just leaving you and the destination connected with each other. This works perfectly, as Sipgate One allows for unlimited, free, inbound calls. In addition to all this, you can use a computer with a headset, and the new Gmail to call people directly from the Gmail webpage. Nifty, eh?
Awesome! Just set everything up and made a few local test calls (inbound/outbound) and it works just as you said it would. As long as it still works when I get to T&C, then this is a great option. Thanks for such a detailed write up and for saving me some money this vacation
PS: Do I have to worry about the "calling credit" tab on Google Voice's homepage? It says all calls within the US are free but international calls will affect your balance. It will not know that I am out of the country since it is being directed through Sipgate and all the calls will be free, correct?
drmacinyasha said:
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
Mmmkay, here's what you do.
1) Go get a Google Voice account with a local number. Get that all setup so it'll ring your cellphone (trust me, just stick with this).
2) Head on over to Sipgate.com and sign up for a free Sipgate One account. When it asks for a phone number to verify that you're not a bot registering, give it your real cellphone number. Don't worry if you can't get a "local" number and only wind up with something in California (don't worry, just follow the instructions).
3) Download and install Sipdroid on your EVO. Make sure to set "Preferred Call Type" to "Phone" (otherwise Sipdroid will always take over for all outbound calls. This is bad when you get back in the country, and because Sipdroid doesn't play well with Sipgate for outbound calls, which also cost money on Sipgate). For the SIP Account settings, grab these off your control panel on Sipgate's website (Go to Settings, then on the right-hand side, you'll see "SIP Credentials". Click that) and use the SIP-ID and SIP-Password for the Authorization Username and Password fields in Sipdroid, appropriately. Use "sipgate.com" for Server or Proxy and Domain. Leave Username, Port, and Protocol as-is. Next, go to the Call Options menu in Sipdroid, and enable "Use WLAN", "Use 3G", and "Use EDGE" (Yes, there's no EDGE on CDMA, but it's just to prevent issues). While you're out of the country, you can disable "Use 3G' and "Use EDGE" to force all calls to be WiFi-only.
4) In Sipgate's settings, go to the Forwarding section, and clear out all of the rules (We don't want Sipgate to handle voicemail, as Google Voice will be taking care of that).
5) Add your Sipgate number to Google Voice's list of phones. Make sure to mark it as a landline (not a cellphone) and that you have Sipdroid open and connected when you go to do the verification. Congratulations, you're all set up!
Now, when you leave the country, open up GV online, disable your cellphone's number (your Sprint number, not your Sipgate number) as an available phone. Set Sipdroid to only use WLAN, and I'd recommend putting your phone in Airplane mode with just WiFi turned on. Now people can call and text your Google Voice number (you can install the Google Voice app on your EVO to manage voicemails and texts, and when you get back in the country, to handle calls, too!). To make calls, that's a little more tricky. You have to open up the Google Voice site in a full browser (you can try setting your UAString and all that to Desktop on your EVO's browser, but it doesn't work too well), and then click the "Call" button in the top-left, and select your Sipgate number as the phone to call with, type in the phone number to call, and hit Connect.
Now, the beauty of it all: How GV works is when you have an incoming call, they just forward the call to your number. When you make an outgoing call, GV calls you, then establishes a conference call between you and the destination. As soon as that happens, GV "leaves" the conference call, just leaving you and the destination connected with each other. This works perfectly, as Sipgate One allows for unlimited, free, inbound calls. In addition to all this, you can use a computer with a headset, and the new Gmail to call people directly from the Gmail webpage. Nifty, eh?
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Just checked my Sipgate account and it says I have 57 out of 60 minutes remaining. On their homepage it states "Sign up now and receive 60 free minutes to use on domestic calls during your first month. If you need more minutes or want to use sipgate beyond your free trial please charge your account using a credit card."
I don't really have a problem paying for extra minutes "lowest amount you can buy is $20." But I just want to make I set up everything correctly because you had stated that Sipgate allows for unlimited, free, in-bound calls.
Thanks!
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Awesome! Just set everything up and made a few local test calls (inbound/outbound) and it works just as you said it would. As long as it still works when I get to T&C, then this is a great option. Thanks for such a detailed write up and for saving me some money this vacation
PS: Do I have to worry about the "calling credit" tab on Google Voice's homepage? It says all calls within the US are free but international calls will affect your balance. It will not know that I am out of the country since it is being directed through Sipgate and all the calls will be free, correct?
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B Feelgood said:
Just checked my Sipgate account and it says I have 57 out of 60 minutes remaining. On their homepage it states "Sign up now and receive 60 free minutes to use on domestic calls during your first month. If you need more minutes or want to use sipgate beyond your free trial please charge your account using a credit card."
I don't really have a problem paying for extra minutes "lowest amount you can buy is $20." But I just want to make I set up everything correctly because you had stated that Sipgate allows for unlimited, free, in-bound calls.
Thanks!
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GV shouldn't care about where you are, since you're using WiFi to Sipgate. And according to Sipgate's Twitter, all inbound calls are free. See these conversations:
https://twitter.com/LadyJessica00/status/18773310317
https://twitter.com/sipgate/status/18775978030
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https://twitter.com/sipgate/status/21519605273
If they try to charge you for GV... Something's up. I'd contact their support team.
anybody into tasker?
someone posted a profile to do it automatically, pretty sweet
I plan to travel to Mexico in a few weeks for a much needed escape from these bitter cold Wisconsin winters.
I plan to stop into Sprint to see what options I'd have for using my phone while there. Though I'm still worried as I've heard horror stories of people following what carriers tell them and still racking up huge call or data charges.
Questions:
I'm using a Gingerbread rom, would SIP be an option?
Would making calls through Google voice make any difference?
My hope is, if I have access to wifi I will be able to make VOIP calls or something of the sort.
Google voice will not save you anything. SIP internet calling will. Setup with sipgate or something similar. But internet calling will ONLY help you if you are on a wifi network. If you are data roaming a cell tower, you will get screwed.
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What part of Mexico? I used VOIP on wifi at the resort in Cozumel, almost every hotel there has wifi.
first week of having my evo i went to cancun. hand full of text just about everyday, about 3-4 calls on the last couple of days there, and a bunch of playing around on the web (new phone, had to play with it) netted me about $45 of international fees.
Just buy a international plan for that month so you wont get charge that's much safer and easier instead of having those high bills people get
if you have an old GSM phone just unlock it and use telcel over there, its definitely the cheapest option. text messages are only a peso, even when sending to the U.S.
What about using roam control?
Cheapest method:
1) Put phone into Airplane mode. DO NOT TURN THIS OFF UNTIL YOU GET BACK. If you restart the phone and it's no longer in Airplane mode, PUT IT BACK INTO AIRPLANE MODE.
2) Get Google Voice. Set it up on your phone and all that.
3) Sign up for Sipgate One. It's free and has unlimited incoming calls.
4) Add your Sipgate SIP credentials as a SIP account in Gingerbread (the SIP credentials are to the right on the settings page on sipgate.com). Turn on "Receive calls".
5) Add both your cellular and Sipgate numbers to Google Voice. Have Sipgate be a home number. You should receive the call from Google Voice just fine via Sipgate.
6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. Give people your GV number and instruct them to call you.
7) In Sipgate, remove all of the forwarding options. You do not want Sipgate taking your voicemail for you, of course. Go to Sipgate.com > Settings > Voicemail, Call Forwarding & Hunting, and just delete everything in the list.
8) Try it out! Call your GV number from home or a friend's cellphone. You should get the call via Sipgate. Any texts you send/receive via GV will also be free.
Now, here's the caveat: To make calls, you need to sign onto a computer, go to the GV website, click the "call" button in the upper-left corner, and select your Sipgate number to call with, and then punch in the phone number you want to call. If you've added and sync'd up your Google account on your phone, all of your contacts will be in there already, so you can just type in a few letters/numbers of their name/number and it will auto-fill, kinda like Google Instant.
Enjoy!
good luck going to Mexico that drug war and violence is crazy right now I went in the summer and heard gun fire and **** all over that place hopefully your flying cause if your not....... be safe bro
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Cheapest method:
1) Put phone into Airplane mode. DO NOT TURN THIS OFF UNTIL YOU GET BACK. If you restart the phone and it's no longer in Airplane mode, PUT IT BACK INTO AIRPLANE MODE.
2) Get Google Voice. Set it up on your phone and all that.
3) Sign up for Sipgate One. It's free and has unlimited incoming calls.
4) Add your Sipgate SIP credentials as a SIP account in Gingerbread (the SIP credentials are to the right on the settings page on sipgate.com). Turn on "Receive calls".
5) Add both your cellular and Sipgate numbers to Google Voice. Have Sipgate be a home number. You should receive the call from Google Voice just fine via Sipgate.
6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. Give people your GV number and instruct them to call you.
7) In Sipgate, remove all of the forwarding options. You do not want Sipgate taking your voicemail for you, of course. Go to Sipgate.com > Settings > Voicemail, Call Forwarding & Hunting, and just delete everything in the list.
8) Try it out! Call your GV number from home or a friend's cellphone. You should get the call via Sipgate. Any texts you send/receive via GV will also be free.
Now, here's the caveat: To make calls, you need to sign onto a computer, go to the GV website, click the "call" button in the upper-left corner, and select your Sipgate number to call with, and then punch in the phone number you want to call. If you've added and sync'd up your Google account on your phone, all of your contacts will be in there already, so you can just type in a few letters/numbers of their name/number and it will auto-fill, kinda like Google Instant.
Enjoy!
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Thanks for the detailed walkthrough. The only part I couldn't figure out was step 6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. I couldn't find where to do this.
i just went to mexico a few weeks ago, and stayed on airplane mode (with wifi on) the whole time. if you are going to a tourist trap, you should be fine on the wifi side. if you like going to the more authenitc, poorer touns like me, you might be in trouble.
cesjr02 said:
Thanks for the detailed walkthrough. The only part I couldn't figure out was step 6) Set your Sipgate number to ring, and your cell number not to ring in Google Voice. I couldn't find where to do this.
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Head over to the Google Voice website, click Settings>Voice Settings, select the Phone tab, un-check your cellphone in the list, and check your Sipgate number. Direct link (may or may not work): https://www.google.com/voice/b/0#phones
Works great, issue is only sipgate to sipgate calls are free and unlimited. You get 60 minutes a month and I'm down to 52 already just from testing.
I could always add minutes, the rate seems reasonable enough. Mainly I just need it for important calls, I don't plan to do much chit-chatting in Mexico anyway.
And for those who asked, I'm going to Huatulco, just south of Oaxaca. The resort I'm staying at has wifi.
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Works great, issue is only sipgate to sipgate calls are free and unlimited. You get 60 minutes a month and I'm down to 52 already just from testing.
I could always add minutes, the rate seems reasonable enough. Mainly I just need it for important calls, I don't plan to do much chit-chatting in Mexico anyway.
And for those who asked, I'm going to Huatulco, just south of Oaxaca. The resort I'm staying at has wifi.
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Incorrect. Inbound calls to your Sipgate number are free. If your minutes are decreasing from inbound calls, and you have a Sipgate One account, email them and cite this tweet:
https://twitter.com/sipgate/status/18775978030
The best option I've found for calling back to the states from foreign countries is to use my laptop and take advantage of the free calling from Gmail. Calls are very clear and all calls to the US are free.
I know you can make free calls inside of gmail in a computer browser, but is there a way to do this on our evos? so we can make calls via google voice OVER WIFI. not via google voice number
You can male Google voice calls on wifi/3G/4G
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You can male Google voice calls on wifi/3G/4G
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Care to elaborate on that, since it doesn't make any sense.
My service was shut off for a while but i still want to make calls via wifi with google voice.
Do a search. There's a million tutorials on how to set up Sipgate/Sipdroid/etc./etc./etc. to be a phone in Google Voice.
Easiest option is to get Sipdroid and see if the little button at the bttom is back which says to connect your Google account to PBXes and all that.
Google Voice over wifi? Don't think that is possible.
As mentioned, SIP would work...
right now, I have Sipdroid & Google Voice Over Wifi... no delay or anything... i have a better call quality over voip then I had with sprint.
jojo757 said:
right now, I have Sipdroid & Google Voice Over Wifi... no delay or anything... i have a better call quality over voip then I had with sprint.
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would you mind telling the steps on getting this set up?
ive tried it and had nothing but problems..
when you made the call what # rings the person you are calling.. sip account or gv?
Download SIPdroid (it's in the market). Run the program, and click on set up pbxes with your google voice account. Use the dialer to make calls. Pretty easy if you ask me.
im blind or something i have tryed siproid on couple roms now and i have not seen the google voice tab on it at all
You need to install gvoice to get that option to show up in Sipdroid.
I had to copy the gvoice apk from my actual phone to install it on a none PHONE tablet.
It did not show up in the Market on my wifi only tablet.
So I have been looking around here, searching (unsuccessfully) on how to setup Google Voice (GV) to use only data on 3g and wifi. I see no settings in GV or ICS for this. How do I set this up using GV to dial only data and no voice?
Can I simply go to:
Phone (stock app) >Settings > Use Internet Calling > For all calls when data is available
And then:
Google Voice (downloaded App) > Settings > Making Calls > Use Google Voice to Make all calls
Will these settings work successfully or do I need to purchase an app like Groove IP to get the result I am looking for?
I also signed up for an SIP account at sip2sip and tried to configure a SIP account in the phone, but the account wont configure properly on the phone.
Anyways I am all over the place here, some guidance from someone with more knowledge than myself would be great
Thanks!
There's a misconception that Google Voice is a VOIP service. It is not, it is simply a call forwarding service. When someone dials your GV# it simply forwards to one or more other numbers. Downloading the GV app doesn't enable or allow native VOIP calls on the phone.
The only way to get a VOIP solution going with Google Voice is to have it forward calls to Google Talk (what you'd usually do to make and receive calls in GMail), and use an app like GrooVe IP or Talkatone to intercept those and relay them to your phone.
These basic VOIP service layers for GV aren't as good as they sound. They can work quite well when configured properly on WiFi, but don't expect to make quality calls walking down the street on 3G. The codecs they use just require too much consistent bandwidth and don't work well on mobile networks.
There are other more complex SIP systems that you can pay for and have your GV# forward to, but for that I recommend you head to general and read the VOIP thread.
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Appreciate it, will take a gander over to the voip.
I get fairly consistent 8down and 2up using tmo here so Id like to at least try!
Worst comes to worst I can put my old work sim in for service
Hi Quarkboy!
I am using T-mobile $30 plan, grooveip, google voice to do exactly what you describe. I used it this past week in both Boston and Chicago. I have a new to me used not yet unrooted HTC sensation, DL speeds I get 2mbs to 4 mbs. Calls are "clear", I don't and listeners don't hear static, but, everything sounds a little "thin" and "tinny". I plan to try talkatone next.
IMO, the sound quality is not poor enough to abandon grooveip for most calls, but, for an important call I'd probably use plan minutes.
GL!
Yes. If you want it to make all calls, just set it to that. I have used it and confirmed on my bill that it works
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Ive got nothing but good things to say about talkatone.
Easy setup...good options...great app!
Try itZ!
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Yup. Talkatone is the way to go.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
pinoyplaya4life said:
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yes you do get charged minutes with just gv. Use talkatone to call without minutes. Play around in the settings to get it just right. You know it's right when you can make and receive calls on airplane mode our without the Sim in the phone. Additionally, most importantly make sure to log into the desktop version of gv and forward all calls to google talk.
ziddey said:
To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
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Interesting. I just signed up and I'm trying to get it set up with the built in Internet Calling features in Android.
If I set Google Voice and Internet Calling to Ask Each Time I get this:
Call with Google Voice > Dials using Cell
Call with Cell > Asks me to chose internet or cell
So that doesn't seem to be what is expected. Although I suppose I could reduce minutes by receiving calls over gv.
Finally, does anyone know if pbxes.org keeps you logged into gtalk on their servers 24/7?