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Hi all,
I am currently using an Xperia X10, with unlocked bootloader and a custom rom. Does almost everything i need from a phone, but it can always be faster and better right
Today i stumbled upon a nice offer with an Xperia Arc S. I can also choose a samsung galaxy s plus..
So i have a few questions for you guys:
Do you recommend the arc s? I really like SE for it's build quality and excellent camera. So the samsung is out i think . PLus the Arc S having Android 4.0.
Is the Arc S nicely build?
Battery life? (xperia x10 has 1500mah, but with custom rom it gets trough the day with ease)
I will almost certainly do the same with it as i did with my x10 : rooting the phone and tweak it. So is the arc S an easy phone to edit and root? Are there some nice ICS roms for it? (of course there are )
How about performance? i know it is not the best phone on the market, you could even call it an "older" model. Adreno 205 is a good GPU isn't it?
And is the camera really as good as Sony claims it is? Yeah i am not comparing it to my dslr (SonyD) Alpha A500), but can you make some nice pictures with it.
Or should i just pay a bit more and go for Xperia S
I have been using my x10 for 2 years now, don't know if i will do the same with the arc S. But the offer is so good that i could even sell the phone and still don't pay more than with my current Sim-Only.
I hope i get some answers from you guys. Information from users is much more valuable than everything i read on the net. Reviews are generally pretty positive.
Greets, and thanks in advance
I would go for the Xperia S personally, the arc is great but the lack of RAM and memory make it often frustrating to use. Multitasking is a pain because you'll find that you leave an app, come back to it and it will have closed most annoying on the browser. Also once you install a decent amount of apps on it you do start to notice it lag.
It is a great phone, as long as you're a light user. Going back to my arc from my Xperia S you do notice this more. That said it is a good update from the X10 which is very sluggish with 2.3, but if you want something much better and more future proof I would recommend at least a phone with 1GB RAM and a dualcore processor.
I don't have an arc s, I have an arc. I previously used an x10 though and the arc is worlds better (even with similar specs). The rom community for the arc is also very active so you'll likely find exactly what you need for your usage.
That said, adsada is right; if you can swing it I would get a newer xperia phone, but if the deal on the arc s really is a good one I can't see any reason not to grab it. Just expect to use your phone like a phone, not a computer
if u buy arc s you are going 10 months behind with u see the config..but the looks are still futuristic..one of the best looking phone. but only drawback is its RAM..if u want your phone to survive jelly beans load and want to stick to it atleast for 1-1.5 years then i think your btr go for xperia s..
i have 3 smartphones..i see my defy as a rough & tough man..i see my SGS2 as a big corporate man with suit blazers..but when i see my arc s i see her as a sexy victoria secret model ..
BTW this is general section...Questions should go into Q & A section..
The build quality is good.
The battery life...hmmmmm.. I am still waiting for the phone that last more than 1 day in heavy use. Still, with the right ROM and settings, it lasts about 10h (and by heavy duty I mean HEAVY DUTY, used at least 6h out of 10 - music, internet (data), gaming, etc)
Camera is good. I had nothing to complain about.
The RAM and internal memory is indeed a drawback. Still, some workarounds can be found with the right ROM and app configurations.
If you want it mainly for the design.. go for it, it is great!
If you are more interested in force than in beauty... go for Xperia S.
Thanks for the answers.
Yeah the offer is pretty nice, but i think i will wait a bit and buy something a bit more high performance.
Looks of the Art S are the best though, i really think there isn't a better looking phone on the market right now.
Lack of Ram is something the X10 has too. Really irritating sometimes, but after some modding you can run it pretty fast.
But i really like to tweak things, and i like technically advanced stuff. So it is probably better to buy something different.
Don't know if i stay with sony though.. Samsung galaxy S2 is getting a lot cheaper fast here. So that probably is a lot value for many. I hate touchwich, so that one will be modded for sure
i have an Arc S, to be honest i prefer the Galaxy. Arc S is good but when it comes to updates i think ICS will be the last update this phone will ever taste (porting will help but some stuff might not work)
maybe newer ver of android requires a bigger memory (RAM) ICS is kinda slow on this phone but Modding helps speed it up.
im an arc user also..
work in a mobile section been exploring all high end phones
just my own opinion and what ive experience
sony - camera / visual(your screen) / audio
those criteria sony will have great advantage towards other brands
but speed xperia s dual core old architecture cpu,
s4 dual core phones will swallow it alive
im planning also to change my phone maybe other brand
i used my arc for almost a year now and the ram just cant handle it
got an Samsung Galaxy S2 and an Sony Arc S. have to say, the RAM on the Arc is really a problem, but the camera is way better than on the Samsung :-D
currently I´m trying AOKP on my Arc S, just to see if it handles the RAM really better than Stock
so for you: get a device with more RAM and nice optics ;-) but you probably won´t be disappointed with the Arc S.
... If you want a upgrade from x10 go for sony S http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php, it is a bit expensive now, but if you wait a little it will be a good upgrade.
I currently own a samsung galaxy ace and I am looking forward to upgrade to a new phone.
Xperia arc and arc s both look the same and have same features.bt xperia arc s has a btr processor wich I think is ovrclocked to 1.4 ghz from the same xperia arc processor.
But the price diff btween them is around rupees 3k.
So is xperia arc s worth that price difference , or i can go with xperia arc?
Go with Arc S, but I would suggest you get a 2012 Xperia phones.
arc and arc s have different processors....its not the same processor overclocked...
and sony has stopped manufacturing these phone....it would hardly make any diffrence if you would buy a arc....because you can always overclock it up to 1.4 ghz..however, those roms/updates that are meant for arc s cannot be applied to arc but those for arc can be applied to arc s....it thoroughly depend on you....
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Mobage said:
Go with Arc S, but I would suggest you get a 2012 Xperia phones.
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Actually I m more interested in the slim design of xperia arc/ arc s. The NXT series is also nice Xperia P could be an option for me too. Still ARC looks really impressive to me.
Since I am not in touch with ARC's forum I dont have idea about the Custom ROMS being built for arc / arc s. And I have also heard people saying that ICS doesnt really work very well in arc or arc s. Thats why I am confused in between ARC n ARC S cause they are more or less the same. If there is major difference in performance or battery life then I can go for Xperia arc s by waiting a little bit more and collecting money for that
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arc and arc s have different processors....its not the same processor overclocked...
and sony has stopped manufacturing these phone....it would hardly make any diffrence if you would buy a arc....because you can always overclock it up to 1.4 ghz..however, those roms/updates that are meant for arc s cannot be applied to arc but those for arc can be applied to arc s....it thoroughly depend on you....
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So , are more custom ROMS r built only for ARC s or they r treated equaly here ? because I m well aware of all the customizations in my galaxy ace so definitely i l b looking forward to the ROMs for my next phone too..
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go for arc s dude..there wont be much price difference...i would suggest u to go for xperia P or S if u can handle a fat phone or else go for arc s
Roms here are built for arc s ..but can also be flashed on arc with lil change in build.prop
Arc has better 3G speed, but the processor is 1GHz and got problems with the casing.
Arc S has 1.4 GHz processor and most problems with the Arc has been solved with the Arc S.
So I suggest you go for Arc S.
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the glory of single core mobile devices is fading so if you planning buying one might as weel invest for quadcore devices
quads perform better than singles I agree. but if your looking for something iconic yet still good, arc s is the bomb. understand the limits of the device though but for me, they still perform better than the new xperias. stability is the key.
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I want to buy an Arc S very soon and i want to know if it is worth buying it now ? my budget is low because i sell my 5 month old atrix 4G + salary of 3 days working xD
The big question is if there are any bugs or consistant lags which i need to know about ?
Buy an Arc S, load it with FXP kernel and CM9, and you got a phone which can compete with the most expensive Android phones on the market.
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Buy an Arc S, load it with FXP kernel and CM9, and you got a phone which can compete with the most expensive Android phones on the market.
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And if i don't want a costume rom ? at least until the warranty is over...
Is it good ? does it have any bugs or lag ?
I think you should get together a little more and buy a xperia s, s I think the arc is becoming obsolete, but with the roms there until today, you'll get more out ... as I, ;p
Depends on what you want from a phone. If you're not very heavy on apps, want a nice looking phone (with cheap housing) and have a low budget - yeah, go ahead. You could give Neo (especially if you want a front facing camera) or Ray a shot, though.
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Is it possible to Re-lock the BL ?
And the neo and ray have small screens compared to the Arc S and neo is too thick
I'll go for the Arc S Is is fast and slick with everything ? i mean dialer, sms, contacts, calendar, settings & menus, apps like whatsapp and facebook ?
How is multitasking for a single core ? good ?
Thanks
Yes, it's possible to relock the bootloader. Neo is thicker, yes, though housing is better. But I suggest you buy a protective case for Arc, because the housing is crap and if you accidentally drop the phone, you'll definitely damage the housing. And there's that tiny crack that'll develop above and below the proximity sensor regardless of how you treat your phone.
The multitasking. Well, hm. I suggest you stay on Gingerbread for that. It's a lot better than ICS on Arc. I can't really say much more as I'll be upgrading to Xperia T/TX soon for a bit more power. But overall, it's an okay phone if you don't mind crappy housing quality.
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I suggest you to at least buy Xperia U... It's cheaper than Arc S (at least here in Serbia), and it has a dual-core processor, so it's better for multitasking. If 8GB of storage is enough for you and you don't need good camera, than go for it. If you don't, than buy Xperia Arc S if you can't buy Xperia P.
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I suggest you to at least buy Xperia U... It's cheaper than Arc S (at least here in Serbia), and it has a dual-core processor, so it's better for multitasking. If 8GB of storage is enough for you and you don't need good camera, than go for it. If you don't, than buy Xperia Arc S if you can't buy Xperia P.
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I'm about to buy the xperia Sola
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nathan96 said:
I want to buy an Arc S very soon and i want to know if it is worth buying it now ? my budget is low because i sell my 5 month old atrix 4G + salary of 3 days working xD
The big question is if there are any bugs or consistant lags which i need to know about ?
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Hey im using arc s from past 4 months and its just AMAZING....
The only one demerit is it lacks in front camera...apart from that everythings fine...it gives a good batery bakup..ram management is good...the screen size and resolution is apt and moreover the design of the phone gives the killer look to it...it is powered with scorpion snapdragon single core processor which i feel is good moreover the novathor duel core which is equiped by the new sony xperia nxt series..
I suggest you to buy it and install cynogen mod rom in it for best use !!!
Hope this helps u !!
Your choice
IF I SUGGEST YOU THENNN(KEEPING AN ANDROID PHONE IN MIND)
1. ARC S HAS 1.4GHZ SINGLE PROCESSOR
>>>IT'S A VERY GOOD PROCESSOR AND TILL DATE IT CAN RUN EVERY ROM MADE FOR IT
<<<SUGGEST YOU TO BUY A DUAL CORE PROCESSOR ALTHOUGH QUAD CORE PROCESSORS ARE LATEST BUT DUAL CORE PROCESSOR CAN DO THE WORKS SMOOTHER THAN SINGLE CORE.
2. ARC S HAS ONLY 512MB RAM
>>>FOR RUNNING OLDER ANDROID ROM (Eg.GINGERBREAD) IT'S BEST..BUT IN LATEST RELEASE OF NEW ROMS (Eg. ICE CREAM SANDWICH OR JELLY BEAN) MORE AMOUNT OF RAM IS GOOD AS IT WOULD CAUSE LAG(DOESN'T COME UP INITIALLY BUT LATER IT'S A LAG LIKE HELLL AS YOU START DOWNLOADING MORE APPS)
<<<SUGGEST YOU TO BUY A PHONE HAVING AT LEAST 1GB OF RAM FOR A COMPLETE LAG FREE PERFORMANCE
3. ARC S HAS A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN, CAMERA AND OTHER FEATURES EXCEPT FRONT CAMERA.
>>>NO COMMENTS
IMPORTANT:-
THE BEST EXPERIENCE ON A PHONE CAN BE ACHIEVED BY A VERY GOOD ROM OPTIMIZED FOR IT. IN RECENT WITH LATEST ROMS REQUIRING HIGH END SPECS TO RUN SMOOTHLY ON ANDROID DEVICE..
AT LAST:-
PERFORMANCE IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO $$$$$.
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Hello ,,
would you help me to choose the best phone for these phones in my price tag category
I want to know which Soc is more powerful , the novathor - mali 400 or the S3 - adreno 220
I am an occasional gamer , but I want a performer that can run many of the moderate to high graphic games
and is there is any difference in the performance between xperia s and xperia sl
and a last question , since all my old phones for the past 7 years were nokia , which were hard built sets , are the sony one are good built too , that can withstand long term usage and occasional falls !
( it worth mentioning that I will not change the phone for 2-3 years ahead )
thanks for your help in advance ,, and sorry for my week english
Blackjackxx said:
Hello ,,
would you help me to choose the best phone for these phones in my price tag category
I want to know which Soc is more powerful , the novathor - mali 400 or the S3 - adreno 220
I am an occasional gamer , but I want a performer that can run many of the moderate to high graphic games
and is there is any difference in the performance between xperia s and xperia sl
and a last question , since all my old phones for the past 7 years were nokia , which were hard built sets , are the sony one are good built too , that can withstand long term usage and occasional falls !
( it worth mentioning that I will not change the phone for 2-3 years ahead )
thanks for your help in advance ,, and sorry for my week english
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Xperia S is better. Definitely. I tried multiple games on it and it runs everything without a problem.
There is no difference between S and SL, the SL is overclocked to 1.7ghz, which is doable on the Xperia S with unlocking its bootloader and flashing a custom kernel.
Sony has a quite solid build, the design is perfect, and it will probably serve you for even more than 2-3 years.
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Xperia S is better. Definitely. I tried multiple games on it and it runs everything without a problem.
There is no difference between S and SL, the SL is overclocked to 1.7ghz, which is doable on the Xperia S with unlocking its bootloader and flashing a custom kernel.
Sony has a quite solid build, the design is perfect, and it will probably serve you for even more than 2-3 years.
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does that overclocking whether by sony in SL or by flashing in xperia S damage the processor with time , or it is a fake myth ?
and does the xperia S comes with ICS out of the box or still GB ?
thanks for your great help
Blackjackxx said:
does that overclocking whether by sony in SL or by flashing in xperia S damage the processor with time , or it is a fake myth ?
and does the xperia S comes with ICS out of the box or still GB ?
thanks for your great help
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I don't think overclocking would cause any problem but you'll not always need them. Yes, it comes with ICS out of the box
P or S? Go for Xperia S.. It is amazing!
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BanorBhai said:
I don't think overclocking would cause any problem but you'll not always need them. Yes, it comes with ICS out of the box
P or S? Go for Xperia S.. It is amazing!
Send from my small apps enabled Xperia™ Ion
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is there is any problems with xperia S that was experienced by many users ?
thanks for your help
Blackjackxx said:
is there is any problems with xperia S that was experienced by many users ?
thanks for your help
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People always have problems with phones, but overall the Xperia S is a solid value. Choose it over P that is for sure, unless P is much cheaper.
mrsatan said:
People always have problems with phones, but overall the Xperia S is a solid value. Choose it over P that is for sure, unless P is much cheaper.
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thanks for your great efforts
I heared that sony release a program that flash the phones to factory ROM , is that true ? and does that mean that you can try custom rom and if any problems occur you can simply return to the original one ??
Blackjackxx said:
thanks for your great efforts
I heared that sony release a program that flash the phones to factory ROM , is that true ? and does that mean that you can try custom rom and if any problems occur you can simply return to the original one ??
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Yeah, it's called Flashtool. And yes, also.
I have an additional question , is it worth to pay extra budget for S4 krait phone as HTC one S ? or S3 1.5 ghz in xperia S can fullfil my needs for 2-3 years of full experience of android platform and occasional moderate to pre heavy gaming ??
Blackjackxx said:
I have an additional question , is it worth to pay extra budget for S4 krait phone as HTC one S ? or S3 1.5 ghz in xperia S can fullfil my needs for 2-3 years of full experience of android platform and occasional moderate to pre heavy gaming ??
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S4 will be better... S3 is a bit old...
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Felimenta97 said:
S4 will be better... S3 is a bit old...
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ok , I agree , but is it worth the extra budget ? and all the change will be in gaming experience , overall performance of the phone or only will be in the benchmarks ?
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ok , I agree , but is it worth the extra budget ? and all the change will be in gaming experience , overall performance of the phone or only will be in the benchmarks ?
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The three of them, I think. What is the price of both for you?
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The three of them, I think. What is the price of both for you?
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nearly 80 $
with the superiority of xperia S display and camera to be put in consideration too ,,
Blackjackxx said:
nearly 80 $
with the superiority of xperia S display and camera to be put in consideration too ,,
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Think with yourself: You're rather an amazing screen for videos and such, and amazing camera, or rather play games all the time.?
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Which phone should I buy : Xperia S or Xperia SL?
Obvious the Xperia SL is better with the faster CPU :silly::silly:
But I can see that there is not many ROMs for this phone
I'm wondering if I could install Xperia S ROMs and Xperia S kernels (custom) on Xperia SL :laugh::laugh:
No **** the SL.
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Go for S dude, 200mhz didnt give much different at all.
Yeah I know but in my country Xperia S and SL have the same price. So why not pick the SL ? :laugh::laugh:
And this guy said that
sognare69 said:
i have the sl and i can istall everything of xperia s without problem
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Dont know if there is any problem with you guys when you install Xperia S ROMs on the SL :silly:
SL is better than S
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Reading about them, you wont see a lot of diferences between them... Only you can see that SL have 0.2MHz of proccesor.. (it could mean that SL drains battery quickly, obviusly a bit quickly). All other things are similar, and you could lose buying the SL beacuse, like you said, SL lack the same comunity development.
If you find out, that you could install Xperia S roms in an SL phone... Go to SL jajaja
Actually thats 400mhz Difference, 200mhz per core right, and XSL have Bluetooth 3.0, and XS have 2.1
And I read that newer XS which does not have any Yellow Tint, Quick Charge has been removed?(hardware related?), atleast on my XSL i can confirm that it is working if you have EP850/850
And according to reviews, like GSMArena, Photo's and Video is slightly better on XSL(software related?)
Now I'm just wondering if I could install all the wonderful ROM in Xperia S Development box for my SL ??
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Now I'm just wondering if I could install all the wonderful ROM in Xperia S Development box for my SL ??
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I believe that people say you can
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mhyke13ph said:
Actually thats 400mhz Difference, 200mhz per core right, and XSL have Bluetooth 3.0, and XS have 2.1
And I read that newer XS which does not have any Yellow Tint, Quick Charge has been removed?(hardware related?), atleast on my XSL i can confirm that it is working if you have EP850/850
And according to reviews, like GSMArena, Photo's and Video is slightly better on XSL(software related?)
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Bluetooth 3.0?? I'll see again and in a few post says 2.1 :S where have you seen it? http://www.smart-gsm.com/moviles/sony-xperia-sl
400MHz with the same battery (1750mAh) is equal to say that drains quickly... i dont know it but i think it.
See this page http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4894&idPhone2=4369 and try to read or watch comparatives in web!
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Bluetooth 3.0?? I'll see again and in a few post says 2.1 :S where have you seen it? http://www.smart-gsm.com/moviles/sony-xperia-sl
400MHz with the same battery (1750mAh) is equal to say that drains quickly... i dont know it but i think it.
See this page http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4894&idPhone2=4369 and try to read or watch comparatives in web!
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It's actually 3.0
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sl-4894.php
Thanks anyway
Well, I still say 'duck' those 200 MHz and bluetooth!
If you're asking for XDA purposes; get the S
If you're a douchebag that only gets a phone to brag in front of friends; get the SL (I'm not judging anyone, but the only people I know that have the SL are douchebags (no offence to the cool guys at XDA that have the SL)).
If I were you, I will go for S. I dont care about rom development but custom kernel are very important for me. If XS kernel can be use on XSL, then I will say XSL.
But I'm now stuck weather to pick between Xperia S and Xperia P.
Xperia S got HD screen, better battery capacity and processer. But the capacitive button really annoying me.
In other hand Xperia P surround by aluminium unibody, power by WhiteMagic and capacitive button are reside in transparent strip. But it have low battery capacity.
Guy please help me which one do you prefer.
Thanks.
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If I were you, I will go for S. I dont care about rom development but custom kernel are very important for me. If XS kernel can be use on XSL, then I will say XSL.
But I'm now stuck weather to pick between Xperia S and Xperia P.
Xperia S got HD screen, better battery capacity and processer. But the capacitive button really annoying me.
In other hand Xperia P surround by aluminium unibody, power by WhiteMagic and capacitive button are reside in transparent strip. But it have low battery capacity.
Guy please help me which one do you prefer.
Thanks.
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You have to think also about applications and games you already have bought through playstore, i read that some who upgraded his 2011 xperia(qualcomm) to xperia p(st-ericsson) have a lot of incompatibilites, specially games. So for me i decided to buy XSL, hd screen, 12mp camera, bigger screen, bigger battery, and better cpu 1.7ghz, and of course most of my apps that i bought from google play are compatible.
About the capacitive buttons, they are not like XP, but i got used to it, maybe live with it.
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You have to think also about applications and games you already have bought through playstore, i read that some who upgraded his 2011 xperia(qualcomm) to xperia p(st-ericsson) have a lot of incompatibilites, specially games. So for me i decided to buy XSL, hd screen, 12mp camera, bigger screen, bigger battery, and better cpu 1.7ghz, and of course most of my apps that i bought from google play are compatible.
About the capacitive buttons, they are not like XP, but i got used to it, maybe live with it.
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I dont care for gaming cause i do not really play game on my phone. What important for now is the design.
How does it feel in the hand?
ZN6 said:
If I were you, I will go for S. I dont care about rom development but custom kernel are very important for me. If XS kernel can be use on XSL, then I will say XSL.
But I'm now stuck weather to pick between Xperia S and Xperia P.
Xperia S got HD screen, better battery capacity and processer. But the capacitive button really annoying me.
In other hand Xperia P surround by aluminium unibody, power by WhiteMagic and capacitive button are reside in transparent strip. But it have low battery capacity.
Guy please help me which one do you prefer.
Thanks.
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Xperia s, i had returned my xperia p after 3 days to get the xperia s, wasn't satisfied with it
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xperia S
xperia S, I believe
And what's about the kernels.
Can I install Xperia S custom kernel for the Xperia SL
the cheapest
SL
Have an SL, and Im not a DB as some have indicated..Good phone and for some reason, seems to be cheaper than the S in some cases...Running Turbo Rom2 at the moment.
I have no problem running S roms with a unlocked boot loader...
Really though its essentially the same phone except the overclock, so if your going to root and rom, I really see no difference...