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Hello,
I got my Desire HD a few weeks ago, it was locked on Three UK and I rooted and sim unlocked it to use it in Italy where I live.
I was playing with the application manager and noticed that there are a few apps that are installed on the phone (some Three UK apps, Bejeweled and so on) that are not showing at all in the apps list. They are in the installed applications of the application manager, but I can't do anything with them as all the controls for these apps are gray (not selectable). Anyone has any idea about what is happening?
I was also thinking to flash a stock ROM to get rid of all that unusable stuff and speed up the phone a bit (the Three splash screen makes boot crazy long), but I want to be sure I can go back to this ROM, if needed. I have a backup made with ClockworkMod, is it all I need or should I save something else first?
What stock ROM would be better for me to flash?
I am currently with OS build 1.37.771.3 and Radio 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
Thanks in advance for the help!
No advice at all?
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My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
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My guess is that those apps are part of the ROM and so you will not easily be able to remove them.
You could try using something like Titanium Backup to see if that will remove them but unlikely.
"What ROM should I use" is a question that should be banned from this site. It is up to you what ROM you like the most. I, along with others can only tell you what ROM works best for them. Pick one, try it. Don't like it then choose another.
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Okay, I think I explained myself the wrong way
I didn't want somebody to tell me what ROM is better as I know it really depends on personal preferences, that's the reason why there are so many different ones, right? What I meant is: what is the latest stock ROM that allows me to root the phone using Visionary+? Do I have to worry about OTA updates or can I just download and apply them?
For now I just want to have a "clean" phone, custom roms and further playing will come in the future
And, the second part of the question is if a system backup done using ClockworkMod is sufficient to get back to what I have now, if ever needed, or I do need to backup something else first.
Thanks!
I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
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I'm afraid I can't recall the latest version that will still work using Visionary+ The last time I researched it was 1.32 I believe but don't hold me to that. If you have a look at the Android Development forum the Visionary threads will tell you.
If you use CWM Recovery to do a (NAND) backup of the current ROM then that is all you will need to do. THat will back up ROM, settings, apps, messages etc. Everything.
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Would I need to somehow backup Radio too? Or CWM backup saves it as well?
For the past couple of weeks, I've had notifications from "Device Management" telling me that I'm eligible for an update. However, when I try to do the update, my phone reboots and because I rooted my phone with the help of ClockworkMod Recovery, I'm getting an error saying from CWM saying:
E: failed to verify whole-file signature
E: signature verification failed
Installation aborted
and then when I reboot the phone, "Device Management" tells me that the installation was aborted.
How can I apply these updates to my phone with my phone being rooted and having CWM installed? I don't mind if I have to re-root afterwards. I just don't want to have to do a factory reset. Also, must I remove CWM?
Same issue on Rogers model
dansushi said:
For the past couple of weeks, I've had notifications from "Device Management" telling me that I'm eligible for an update. However, when I try to do the update, my phone reboots and because I rooted my phone with the help of ClockworkMod Recovery, I'm getting an error saying from CWM saying:
E: failed to verify whole-file signature
E: signature verification failed
Installation aborted
and then when I reboot the phone, "Device Management" tells me that the installation was aborted.
How can I apply these updates to my phone with my phone being rooted and having CWM installed? I don't mind if I have to re-root afterwards. I just don't want to have to do a factory reset. Also, must I remove CWM?
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I had the exact same issue today with my Rogers i747!
I have no idea what to do. I'm bumping this up instead of making a new thread so hopefully we'll hear back.
Hey, I figured since no one else has answered I'd throw my hat into it. If all you did was root then the only way I know of to get the updates is to Odin back to stock wiping root & cwm. Since your still stock doesn't Samsung or att have a data backup app? I'd do that then Odin then update if it still asks you to do it then re-root. Hope that helps a bit and if there's a better method hopefully someone's adds to my lil bit.
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Hey, I figured since no one else has answered I'd throw my hat into it. If all you did was root then the only way I know of to get the updates is to Odin back to stock wiping root & cwm. Since your still stock doesn't Samsung or att have a data backup app? I'd do that then Odin then update if it still asks you to do it then re-root. Hope that helps a bit and if there's a better method hopefully someone's adds to my lil bit.
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Actually no. Just unroot using the su or superuser app. Then reboot and install update a lot easier but if you have a custom recovery then yes use Odin.
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Yea they said they have cwm which is what's giving them the error
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Yea they said they have cwm which is what's giving them the error
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Hey actually I ran the Kies update instead of OTA and it did it perfectly. All it did was unroot the phone, change Device Status to Normal and revert to Android recovery.
I'm honestly surprised it worked out.
I don't like that I have so many unfrozen apps back, but I do want the Jelly Bean official release soon so I'll hold a bit longer before rooting again.
Ya can always re-root then do that same thing again?
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Ya can always re-root then do that same thing again?
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I don't know, can't really guarantee, but I sure hope I can!
I had asked about this as well before. Maybe somebody should do a write up on the easiest way to get the OTA update on a rooted phone with CWM. And what I mean is the easiest way to change what needs to change and get back to the same point you were before with apps installed and settings, calendars and all that. I want to be able to get my phone back to exactly the way it was before, EXACTLY, except for now being on JB So far the only thing I have seen is, flash unrooted stock rom for you phone, get update and restore apps with titanium. But I dont know if this gets everything back to normal including calendars and everything.
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I had asked about this as well before. Maybe somebody should do a write up on the easiest way to get the OTA update on a rooted phone with CWM. And what I mean is the easiest way to change what needs to change and get back to the same point you were before with apps installed and settings, calendars and all that. I want to be able to get my phone back to exactly the way it was before, EXACTLY, except for now being on JB So far the only thing I have seen is, flash unrooted stock rom for you phone, get update and restore apps with titanium. But I dont know if this gets everything back to normal including calendars and everything.
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You're best bet is to either revert complete to stock and wait for the official JB update, or keep up with ROM/Kernel updates on here and update manually.
Why do you want the OTA update so bad? Most of the stuff in them comes out way earlier in roms, kernels, modems, etc that are provided by the devs.
fizzer82 said:
You're best bet is to either revert complete to stock and wait for the official JB update, or keep up with ROM/Kernel updates on here and update manually.
Why do you want the OTA update so bad? Most of the stuff in them comes out way earlier in roms, kernels, modems, etc that are provided by the devs.
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Just because I want everything to work 100% stock is all. I know most the stuff is fine, but there is always some weird issues with the roms put out right now, you know like, bluetooth doesnt work, GPS is funky, NFC is jacked, those sorts of things. I know it just takes time and these guys rock once they get the kinks worked out. But for now Im liking the stock, as many are and this is the best way to get a 100% working phone with not a single thing not working correctly. Trust me I know I will be swapping to some other rom later on once i get bored and need a change on the phone, but for now its working well and Im not at that point yet.
So you said you want your phone EXACTLY like stock, but with JB. That's not going to really happen until you can get the official JB release from your carrier.
If you go back to ICS, there's plenty of great roms available. For 100% stable JB, you have to either wait, or learn how to compile a kernel and pack a rom yourself and spend all your free time getting it perfect
For me I've just not been wanting to risk anything beyond rooting, especially since my experience with my Captivate led to a bricking that needed warranty replacement. I like the stock stuff too on this phone (miraculous I know) and can certainly wait for JB update. I just didn't want to be led to have to factory reset just for a damn OTA update. Hell no update should ever be this intense.
Which is why I was concerned in my case for unrooting and allowing it to update.
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I had asked about this as well before. Maybe somebody should do a write up on the easiest way to get the OTA update on a rooted phone with CWM. And what I mean is the easiest way to change what needs to change and get back to the same point you were before with apps installed and settings, calendars and all that. I want to be able to get my phone back to exactly the way it was before, EXACTLY, except for now being on JB So far the only thing I have seen is, flash unrooted stock rom for you phone, get update and restore apps with titanium. But I dont know if this gets everything back to normal including calendars and everything.
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If you use Google, getting back your calendars should not be an issue at all. That's what I love about Android, makes it so easy to sync things up.
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So you said you want your phone EXACTLY like stock, but with JB. That's not going to really happen until you can get the official JB release from your carrier.
If you go back to ICS, there's plenty of great roms available. For 100% stable JB, you have to either wait, or learn how to compile a kernel and pack a rom yourself and spend all your free time getting it perfect
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That is sort of the point...OTA means the official update and what this entire thread is pretty much about...I know its not out yet, just want to know what needs to be done when the time comes. Im stock rooted now, I just will go to stock unrooted when they release the ATT update to JB and get the official build. Then root again and restore my stuff with Titanium.
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If you use Google, getting back your calendars should not be an issue at all. That's what I love about Android, makes it so easy to sync things up.[/QUOTE]
Dont get me started on this one...I put my calendar on this phone and used the S planner Samsung calendar that is default and there is no way to sync that with google..I wish there was so I could use it. There are a couple threads on this issue, you can sync google to the phone, but you cant sync s planner to google...
I second using Kies
I second using Kies to upgrade your Firmware and then apply the At&T updates. It does reset the root
First post and I have to say great forum here and lots of great information!!
I am a long time unix / linux user and work in the technology product development and I have been researching for about a week after updating to official ICS over Kies for information on backuping up my phone and rooting.
I had considered rooting before but never had a good reason really until I loaded the official ICS update and had to reset to get it working, losing all my apps / data. Kies was not cooperating so I did not get a good backup and it would not keep my app settings any way. This is when I found out that my old Blackberry and even iPhone had much more complete backup solutions that non-rooted Android. I have totally recovered the other devices without losing anything in the past so I thought Android would be a snap as well.
Any way to the point now. After searching I have found great work done by the members and I feel pretty comfortable proceeding to root my stock ICS and getting Titanium to do a full backup. I will fix my keyboard and few other things while at it.
My questions are:
1. When the next official release comes from ATT / Samsung will I have to reflash to the stock boot.img (found in another thread) to be able to get the upgrade and then root my phone again?
2. Once rooted, is it better to just come back here and get the updated ROM and flash manually?
3. Is the best way to achieve the complete backup solution I am looking for?
I am pretty happy with the stock ROMs but I want to be able to get a good and full backup going forward since it takes so long to reinstall everything. I could even live with the bloatware if I was confident I could completely restore at anytime.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Roy
Titanium is good for backing up apps and data. If you want a complete back up, you'll want to make a nandroid backup with CWMR. As for the ROM part, it all depends on if you're happy with what you get stock or if you like customized things. I'm sick right now or I would go into detail.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
Shawn said:
Titanium is good for backing up apps and data. If you want a complete back up, you'll want to make a nandroid backup with CWMR. As for the ROM part, it all depends on if you're happy with what you get stock or if you like customized things. I'm sick right now or I would go into detail.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
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Thanks Shawn. I saw a reference to nandroid but did not realize it was part of CWMR. Can I assume if I get CWMR loaded I will be able to backup my current apps / settings or will that just set me up for the next time? I have been sort of assuming once I get CWMR loaded and get root that I may lose my current settings.
Appreciate the reply especially while sick! Hope you feel better soon.
VideoRoy said:
Thanks Shawn. I saw a reference to nandroid but did not realize it was part of CWMR. Can I assume if I get CWMR loaded I will be able to backup my current apps / settings or will that just set me up for the next time? I have been sort of assuming once I get CWMR loaded and get root that I may lose my current settings.
Appreciate the reply especially while sick! Hope you feel better soon.
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A nandroid backup is more like an image backup of the flash, so you would have to restore the whole thing to get back any files you may have lost. It's mostly for backing up prior to flashing a new ROM, so if you don't like it you can go back to what you had easily.
If you want to back up pictures and things like that you should be able to plug the phone into a computer and mount the flash as a drive (I've done this on my Linux and Windows systems many times). Then you can copy the files you want to save to your computer, or copy a new ROM to the phone so you can flash it with CWMR.
You're welcome. Nandroid backups are for when your phone bootloops or is "bricked" or if you want to restore to something previous. For me, I use Titanium to backup all app data before flashing something and then make a Nandroid with CWMR. In my opinion its a good idea to use both so you're safe from any problems down the road.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
Shawn said:
You're welcome. Nandroid backups are for when your phone bootloops or is "bricked" or if you want to restore to something previous. For me, I use Titanium to backup all app data before flashing something and then make a Nandroid with CWMR. In my opinion its a good idea to use both so you're safe from any problems down the road.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
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mvi57 and Shawn,
Thanks guys, got it now. I will probably do both types of backups as well.
I think I understand the system a little better now. The recovery partition probably does not affect the bootloader or ROM so if I just replace it with CWMR I still boot the same and will not lose my current data. I am guessing the next official ROM will probably load fine but I would probably just have to root the phone again.
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions. I have not done embedded development before but some of the guys on team have so I have some terminology i need to get used to.
VideoRoy said:
mvi57 and Shawn,
Thanks guys, got it now. I will probably do both types of backups as well.
I think I understand the system a little better now. The recovery partition probably does not affect the bootloader or ROM so if I just replace it with CWMR I still boot the same and will not lose my current data. I am guessing the next official ROM will probably load fine but I would probably just have to root the phone again.
Thanks for putting up with the noob questions. I have not done embedded development before but some of the guys on team have so I have some terminology i need to get used to.
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You will need to root again once you update. Replacing stock recovery with CWMR will not make you lose any data.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
VideoRoy said:
First post and I have to say great forum here and lots of great information!!
I am a long time unix / linux user and work in the technology product development and I have been researching for about a week after updating to official ICS over Kies for information on backuping up my phone and rooting.
I had considered rooting before but never had a good reason really until I loaded the official ICS update and had to reset to get it working, losing all my apps / data. Kies was not cooperating so I did not get a good backup and it would not keep my app settings any way.
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It's a hard lesson to learn that there were relatively easy solutions to avoid it :/ I as a fellow long time Linux user, I'm suprised!. I myself can not stand not having root access when I need it. I luckily have had Titanium Backup for quite some time now and it IS a life saver for many of your apps and settings! It's a must! I too had the issue of not being able to update via kies and assumed it was because my device was rooted, so in my frustrated lack of sleep mood I had going, I said meh all and grabbed easily accessible data off the memory and flashed the ICS from sammobile.com if i remember right. I've since flashed NardRom as well and am having some signal/sms issues. That being said, MAKE SURE you do a nandroid backup and don't get all anxious and overzealous like I did. If I am not mistaken and understand correctly, sometimes when flashing roms you may overwrite various signal related files like the modem or wireless? With a nandroid backup you can simply restore from that like nothing ever happened! Just follow directions to the T. I've yet to brick my SGH-i927 but I've bricked our captivates a few times
ZeroHour064 said:
It's a hard lesson to learn that there were relatively easy solutions to avoid it :/ I as a fellow long time Linux user, I'm suprised!. I myself can not stand not having root access when I need it. I luckily have had Titanium Backup for quite some time now and it IS a life saver for many of your apps and settings! It's a must! I too had the issue of not being able to update via kies and assumed it was because my device was rooted, so in my frustrated lack of sleep mood I had going, I said meh all and grabbed easily accessible data off the memory and flashed the ICS from sammobile.com if i remember right. I've since flashed NardRom as well and am having some signal/sms issues. That being said, MAKE SURE you do a nandroid backup and don't get all anxious and overzealous like I did. If I am not mistaken and understand correctly, sometimes when flashing roms you may overwrite various signal related files like the modem or wireless? With a nandroid backup you can simply restore from that like nothing ever happened! Just follow directions to the T. I've yet to brick my SGH-i927 but I've bricked our captivates a few times
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I am with you all the way.
I have installed CWMR now and completed a nandroid backup. After tracking down the backup I copied to my laptop for safe keeping. Also installed the keyboard fix only and it worked fine. Later tonight I will give root a try with Titanium.
BTW I was having SMS issues with the stock ICS. No alerts and basic funky things. I have loaded Go SMS Pro and am happier not only fixing the app issues but giving me Group text mode so I am not an outcast with the rest of my iPhone family
Thanks for helping me get going here.
ICS has a bunch of issues, including the bad notifications.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
As others have posted. I back up all my information per app via Titanium backup and every few months I make a new Nandroid backup. This gives me the best of both worlds. A full backup that I can get back to via Nandroid backup and little backups from Titanium backup if I choose to uninstall and re-install an individual app later on in the future.
Just a few other tips from my recent experiences. Since the problems I was having with NardROM... an entire night with no text msgs from my ole lady got me pretty worried and I learned it was issues with my flash or the rom with my phone so I wiped it out and went back to the stock ICS. I also flashed the keyboard fix and have noticed no problems. I did flash the tether fix too but it's not working for me at the moment so I'll play with it later. I'm also using my regular Captivate as a secondary phone/toy using google voice and wireless so if I'm not getting anything on one # during testing or usage I will notice it and get it on the other phone.
Also, as a long time GOSMS user I like to try out the various features but I must warn you stay away from, or have a backup plan on top of it, if you purchase the 180-day premium features and utilize the local backup. I'm not fond of having things backed up to a cloud so like you I back up all my phone stuff to my server and desktops at home but running raid 5 (paranoid much?). The problem I had is when I restored all my text from the cloud after a flash and noticed the new local backup feature in a GOSMS update I thought hey i can do away with the cloud and use this right!? Wrong. I deleted the cloud backup without double checking and on this last flash, attempted to restore roughly 20k+ messages from the Gosms local backup feature and it errored out or froze the phone EVERY time I tried. Frantically searching through everything I had, I learned that Titanium Backup does do a backup typically of the related data, I beleive the listed backup is SMS/APN/MMS or something similar. You have to enable writing to /system in Titanium's settings. There's a howto on xda I beleive and google searches on restoring it. Another thing, if you have numerous backups and are playing around and i.e. have just flashed, installed Titaniumbackup and want to backup something before you restore it from an older version, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHANGED MAX # of BACKUPS FIRST, otherwise you have just overwritten your previous backup :crying:
*Correction* I'm using jayjayjoker2's debloated ICS 4.0.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843001
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Just a few other tips from my recent experiences. Since the problems I was having with NardROM... an entire night with no text msgs from my ole lady got me pretty worried and I learned it was issues with my flash or the rom with my phone so I wiped it out and went back to the stock ICS. I also flashed the keyboard fix and have noticed no problems. I did flash the tether fix too but it's not working for me at the moment so I'll play with it later. I'm also using my regular Captivate as a secondary phone/toy using google voice and wireless so if I'm not getting anything on one # during testing or usage I will notice it and get it on the other phone.
Also, as a long time GOSMS user I like to try out the various features but I must warn you stay away from, or have a backup plan on top of it, if you purchase the 180-day premium features and utilize the local backup. I'm not fond of having things backed up to a cloud so like you I back up all my phone stuff to my server and desktops at home but running raid 5 (paranoid much?). The problem I had is when I restored all my text from the cloud after a flash and noticed the new local backup feature in a GOSMS update I thought hey i can do away with the cloud and use this right!? Wrong. I deleted the cloud backup without double checking and on this last flash, attempted to restore roughly 20k+ messages from the Gosms local backup feature and it errored out or froze the phone EVERY time I tried. Frantically searching through everything I had, I learned that Titanium Backup does do a backup typically of the related data, I beleive the listed backup is SMS/APN/MMS or something similar. You have to enable writing to /system in Titanium's settings. There's a howto on xda I beleive and google searches on restoring it. Another thing, if you have numerous backups and are playing around and i.e. have just flashed, installed Titaniumbackup and want to backup something before you restore it from an older version, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CHANGED MAX # of BACKUPS FIRST, otherwise you have just overwritten your previous backup :crying:
*Correction* I'm using jayjayjoker2's debloated ICS 4.0.4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843001
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Great information thanks!!
The backups I am most worried about are all the system settings, app settings and data mostly. I am probably older than most folks here and I do not really text much except family and a few co-workers. I honestly never worried about backing up my SMS / MMS but I will check on my APNs because I had that problem on a Blackberry once. Email is where I store most important stuff and talk about paranoid I have multiple copies of my emails on different computers on different operating systems. 20 years working in storage will do that to you
I believe that if Google or Samsung even came up with a backup solution that did what Blackberry or Apple could do it would solve a lot and I probably would not even be working on this. Blackberry saved my bacon more than once with the complete backup they do in their clunky software and last year when my daughters iPhone would no longer power off, I was able to use iTunes to do a complete backup and she was up and running on a new phone in 15 mins exactly where she left off.
Thanks for the advice!
I'm stock rooted with something like 110 apps frozen with TB. I had not upgraded to MA6 simply because I didn't feel like going through the brain damage of re-freezing the 110 apps. Freezing that many apps for all intents and purposes gave me a custom ROM based on how I use the phone. Many of the apps were replaced with apps from the Google store that I liked much better than what Samsung and Sprint thought I needed and worked for me. BTW, Touch Wiz is gone, replaced with a third party launcher.
Anyway, I got the upgrade notification this morning and my inference from this thread was that if I let it try to upgrade and fail that I wouldn't get the nag about the upgrade. I had read the instructions regarding Freeza's modified MA6 for rooted phones and had even downloaded the zip file. To make a long story short, CMW 6.0.2.3 asked a couple of questions one of which was did I want to keep root? I answered yes to both and lo and behold I'm now on JB 4.1.2 and MB1. Why was I able to apply the OTA update to a rooted phone? I did not wipe cache or Dalvik cache. Everything seems to be normal and I'm sitting here asking, "What happened?" Everything that I've read says this wasn't supposed to happen.
Additionally, does anybody know what the Sprint Hotspot file name is? I have TrevE's Mod. Does it need the Sprint app to work?
If on stock recovery the OTA will go through. You could have also just installed the modem from the ROM. It also sounds like you might prefer CyanogenMod since you have everything frozen and have a launcher running.
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The thing is, no one really knows why this happens. For some the OTA flashed fine with a custom recovery installed (like for you), but then for many others as well, it failed with a status 7 error. I have no idea myself why this would happen, you would think that there would be something in common among those who failed to apply it or among those who were successful, but it doesnt seem like theres anything in the overlap region, which is really strange. People were able to flash it while on stock rooted with custom recovery, others who were on stock rooted with stock recovery had to ODIN back to pure stock to apply. So like you can see, its just a really strange fluke it seems, and I dont think anyone really knows the answer
When last Feb. I finally switched from my iToy to my N7100, I thought that 'flashing' was something that some perv did while wearing a raincoat.
(Hey, I'm pushing 70)
I Finally got my device rooted. I know that it's rooted because while using CF Auto, It wanted me to flash a Triangle Away update, and my binary count went down from 22 to one... so I know at least that worked.
Overjoyed that in Odin, when flashing I first got the notice "Reset!" and then after a few minutes and a restart, I got the "Done" notice (or whatever it said) as I never unplugged from the USB as it says you're supposed to. I just forgot.
Prior to "upgrading" to 4.3 Indian version, I had the stock Rom 4.1.2 running the Perseus Kernel... loved it, but upgrading to 4.3 has turned out to be the worst decision so far.
I still have a lot of Root apps on the phone but they don't work, but as I said, Triangle Away did work.
Should I uninstall the existing ones like Tit. Backup Pro and a few others and re-download them?
Does CF Auto Root automatically install SuperSU? Or should I uninstall that and re-download that too?
One last question....
Assuming that I do have Root, and I'm able to get Titanium Backup Pro working and am able to freeze and/or uninstall the Knox files... What about the ODEX files with Knox.
On this site, I have heard both pieces of advice... Delete and not delete the ODEX'd files.
What is it?
Nobody ever comes up with a definitive answer on this site... it's just a bunch of opinions, usually with the disclaimer, "Worked for me", or something like that... combined with the fact that I really hate working with the Windows partition on my Mac to do the flashing.
Oh, one more thing.
I'd like to go back to the Perseus kernel which somebody mentioned here on XDA.
Are there any kernels for the N7100 that are only useable with 4.1.2 that I should NOT use with 4.3, or does it matter. In other words, would it work with 4.3 as it did with 4.1.2?
Too bad that I don't have somebody like ChainFire living next door. Haha!
I have to thank the XDA site for most of my knowledge since last Feb. when I thought that rooting had something to do with digging up a tree in my front yard.
One more thing (again), I just got an update for Rom Manager Premium and it looks like I can download a CM stable release, which I'm gonna do as soon as I get some of these things ^^^Above answered and ironed out.
I'd like to stick with AOSP as opposed to AOKP but I'll do anything to get away from this current ROM.
Thanks in Advance to anyone who can answer some of these Noob questions.
1-ok i think that you have a custom recovery now, i had these issues a lot on 4.3, if you have custom recovery TWR or CWM you can install any rooted 4.3 rom, but before you do so make sure you backed up your efs folder (VIP you will lose signal if this folder corrubted), after a clean install of any rooted rom, just install ur apps again, if you don't have custom recovery you will need to flash any recovery from Odin, if you can't install recovery from odin so this will be bec. of knox, report back bec. this is another story.
2- some kernels works fine with 4.1.2 or 4.3, and some old ones are only 4.1.2, so make sure that you will flash the right kernel (e.g. devil, AgniPure Stock, ....)
3- don't try to update to CM now, frist make sure that you have a fully working rooted rom with custom recovery install, i also don't recommend flashing roms using any app (rom manager fore example), i think the best flash is the one you do from recovery with clean flash
Just A Follow-Up...
Hey, thanks, evaworld!!!
UPDATE:
I decided to try Root Explorer again (It never worked before to delete anything before this time) and do a search for anything with Knox in it.
I found everything Knox and checked all the boxes except for the ODEX'd files, hit the trash can and wow... it asked for Root privileges. I gave it, and everything was gone in a flash (Pun intended).
Then I tapped on Ti Backup Pro and got the dreaded 'Android device I.D. changed' message so I came back here to XDA and read literally every post on it (Again, opinions are divided) and decided to ignore.
After that, nothing was working for me in Google Play, so I just deleted the data in Google Play Services, Google Play Store, and now I'm waiting for it to take effect in Google Play... whenever I did that in the past, it usually took a couple of hours for it to register. (?)
Now, all of my Rooted apps that I've tried so far are working, but somewhere along the line they pushed Samsung Link on my phone even though I've had Samsung Apps disabled since day one.
The funny thing is that with a Binary Count of 22, I did absolutely nothing differently than this time (Except for an abortive try with Philz_Touch that I don't particularly like the GUI in P_T)... same USB cable, same port, same Windows partition on my Mac, etc. etc. it took this time and I'm pretty overjoyed!
I'll follow evaworld's advice on the ROM... better not throw too much into the mix until I decide that everything is all ironed out.
And, yes, I did click the "Thanks" button for you.
Very good that you have root, but also note that your setup isn't so stable (besides the fact that 4.3 isn't very stable with root apps e.g. I always have problems with titanium and Super and alot of other apps that requires root) , so just clean install a good 4.3 app (I recommend DN3), and after that you are free to do whatever you want (don't forget efs backup in sage place).
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