http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/04/i-think-im-having-gene-amdahl-moment.html
I don't quite understand what Google is saying, other than they're not releasing code because it's not ready, and are busy bringing Honeycomb features to mobile devices. Looking at the codebase news for Honeycomb on the dev blog, and the cool new features it brings - from what I see mainly stuff that will give devs wonderful powers - it should be truely awesome...
However, with these dual core phones being released clocked at 1.2ghz, it makes me wonder if Ice Cream is going to be needing some serious "oomph". Honeycomb has a dual A9 min requirement, so this would bring about upgrade issues for the Nexus One, and Nexus S if so.
These cool new features will come at a processor cost for sure.
-- Sorry mods, wrong forum, could this be moved to the general forum please.
After doing some research I found this phone (desire hd) has many similarities to the sony xperia 2011 line (me personally having an Xperia Ray). So I was wondering which hardware are actually the same like the cpu and the gpu, they both have have an 8.1 mp camera but are they both developed by sony? , I've been looking through this development forum, and have found some interesting roms I would like to port over, as the ray development is quite dry, and if the camera is indeed the same, then I wouldn't have to port over that driver, (which in jellybean roms would mean that the camera would actually work in the ray because jellybean roms for xperia don't), if their are anymore similarities then cross development between xperia 2011 line and the desire hd wouldn't be too hard. I will make a custom rom at some point in the future, but don't have enough knowledge yet for kernel or driver development, or how the android system works yet, but once that time comes, I will seriously consider porting it for this phone!
I think that you've got a long way to go before you just jump in to porting stuff over. As far as the specs go, you can check the Wiki here for some of that, you can also use google for many of the questions you have asked.
I've tried researching, but I haven't found enough detail yet (much like the wiki on here). I have successfully ported a desire s rom, but not a desire hd one, as they have some screen issues, which is too technical for me to get in to at the present time. But camera drivers is one of the key things I wanted to find out about, and there is just nothing I can find out about it. I know the the iPhone 4S camera is exactly the same but not sure about the desire hd.
There are two types of camera for dhd, some are produced by Samsung and some by OmniVision.
So it definitely hasn't the same camera of Ray.
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only processor is the same.
chipset is different. radio is different.
camera is different. source is closed.
-> chance of a working port 0%
Hi LG guys,
I have general concerns with the amount of dev support that the LG OG series receives. Currently, I am using a Motorola Atrix 4G and I just RECENTLY unlocked the bootloader and rooted it this past weekend and felt a sense of great accomplishment when I completed these tasks after hitting several road blocks. I have to say, I was rather impressed with the amount of relevant information, help, and guides floating around on the Internet a good 1.5 years after its release. I was also impressed with the fact some developers are still working to improve builds.
Unfortunately, I feel a compelled to upgrade my phone since the Atrix 4G does not support LTE. I've been looking at viable options and refuse to go with Apple because I have always loved the Android OS and its possibilities. In fact, I'm even more in love with it now, after being able to put JB on my Atrix.
I did little research and narrowed down my desired upgrade choices to:
Samsung Galaxy S4
LG Optimus G Pro or G2
To be honest, I was set on getting the SGS4 this coming April, however I recently learned that it's likely the S4 will have minimal CM support (if any) and I just can't imagine working with buggy builds for an extended period of time. (I hear the SGS3 still doesn't have a stable CM based build)
So aside from the babble, I was wondering:
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry)
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build?
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ?
4. How has development and support been for older phones?
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention?
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome.
If anyone else has any info that they feel would further allow me to make a well informed decision, please share it. I know that smartphones are released frequently these days, but I'm still in search for a smartphone that can last me at least 3-5 years (silly I know, but I had a Moto RAZR flip phone forever and loved it). I have yet to find the one ;/
1.The community is given by the users.I guess there is no point in developing for no one, right?So, if there will be many G users, the devs will come too. Right now there a few guys working(thanks for that),but the G(at least the E975 i have) is quite new and it takes time to start things.
2.No, CM is not officially implemented yet.It depends somewhat on 1.
3.Can't really answer that,but,as far as i know, LG is more open to devs than samsung.
4.Why don't you look yourself?Search button is a miracle.
5.No, LG makes only 1 flagship,with differences only in camera,storage and lte modem.There is G with 8mpx,16gb storage+microsd slot and G with 13mpx camera,32gb storage and no micro sd slot.But the CPU/GPU/RAM is identical.
6.G is way better than Samsung's plastics.
In the future can you post questions in the section that says "questions".
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kc_exactly said:
In the future can you post questions in the section that says "questions".
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I thought about it, but I wanted to get as much feedback as possible.
Personally, if I was going to get any phone right now, I would get the HTC one, with the optimus as my second choice. It will likely have more users and more developers due to greater availability. It has superior specifications, a better screen, better build quality, and supposedly better software. Our phone is great too, just not as new or popular. The glass feels great.
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One and optimus are different categories.full hd display vs hd display.compare the one with g pro,s4,xperia z.optimus is top android at medium price.at least here at orange romania,the 975 comes with a super docking station included(LG ND5521).only the dock costs 120 pounds(more than 200 dollars).i payed for my g 300 euros,which a great deal.i could've get the s3 cheaper,but you can't compare them.
I think lg got an unfair bad reputation,since the time lg made phones like chocolate,shine...they were crappy phone,always having issues.but google made the right call and let lg make the nexus4.
Basically,our g is an improved n
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kimitza said:
One and optimus are different categories.full hd display vs hd display.compare the one with g pro,s4,xperia z.optimus is top android at medium price.at least here at orange romania,the 975 comes with a super docking station included(LG ND5521).only the dock costs 120 pounds(more than 200 dollars).i payed for my g 300 euros,which a great deal.i could've get the s3 cheaper,but you can't compare them.
I think lg got an unfair bad reputation,since the time lg made phones like chocolate,shine...they were crappy phone,always having issues.but google made the right call and let lg make the nexus4.
Basically,our g is an improved n
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Similar specs and similar price in most regions.
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I think you should include in your basket HTC ONE (M7) and Xperia Z.
Apart of that.
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry) (Not yet, there is a few phones on the market, maybe in the future - People dont like LG, )
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build? (Not yet, but it will)
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ? (Neither of them does, but LG seems to be more open about it)
4. How has development and support been for older phones? (Its a market dependent, so, if your phone have been sold a lot, it'll be supported here in XDA, if not, dont expect too much from LG)
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention? (LGOG has a lot of model, but basicaly they are pretty much the same, all of them has same processor and screen)
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome. (My girl has a SGS3 and I'm used to handling it, LG for sure has better built material)
cheers
tungzta said:
Hi LG guys,
I have general concerns with the amount of dev support that the LG OG series receives. Currently, I am using a Motorola Atrix 4G and I just RECENTLY unlocked the bootloader and rooted it this past weekend and felt a sense of great accomplishment when I completed these tasks after hitting several road blocks. I have to say, I was rather impressed with the amount of relevant information, help, and guides floating around on the Internet a good 1.5 years after its release. I was also impressed with the fact some developers are still working to improve builds.
Unfortunately, I feel a compelled to upgrade my phone since the Atrix 4G does not support LTE. I've been looking at viable options and refuse to go with Apple because I have always loved the Android OS and its possibilities. In fact, I'm even more in love with it now, after being able to put JB on my Atrix.
I did little research and narrowed down my desired upgrade choices to:
Samsung Galaxy S4
LG Optimus G Pro or G2
To be honest, I was set on getting the SGS4 this coming April, however I recently learned that it's likely the S4 will have minimal CM support (if any) and I just can't imagine working with buggy builds for an extended period of time. (I hear the SGS3 still doesn't have a stable CM based build)
So aside from the babble, I was wondering:
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry)
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build?
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ?
4. How has development and support been for older phones?
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention?
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome.
If anyone else has any info that they feel would further allow me to make a well informed decision, please share it. I know that smartphones are released frequently these days, but I'm still in search for a smartphone that can last me at least 3-5 years (silly I know, but I had a Moto RAZR flip phone forever and loved it). I have yet to find the one ;/
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I wont answer all of your questions individually but If I was to buy a phone in the next months, I would go for Sony Xperia ZL. Sony was named OEM of the year for developper support by XDA staff. They have a decent track report of supporting 2011 onward phones.
I also came from a Atrix. It died from the infamous wifi-bootloop-bug-of-death. The LG Optimus G Pro is a Phablet and it might be too large for you. The S4 will likelly get poor developper support since most Cyanogen staff lifted their nose at it.
As of now, the Optimus G dev community is ok but since the phone have yet to be released in Europe, Not many people are working on it. There also is lots different versions of the same phone with some incompatibility. We have CM for the Canadian version but it's not official. Far from it.
Good luck
As some owners says, the new xperia good on paper and terrible in life.
Crappy screen, performance, battery life, a lot of bugs including auto bricks.
Whats so special about ogp???? Nothing....
Software is poor on lg.....updates are poor....if its about lcd then htc is way to go....if not then samsung....
Every phone nowadays has 4 cores and 2gb ram....what makes them good is software....
So do you think ogp can beat nexus4 ????
Be happy with your benchmarks ....
From a regular distance 1080p and 720p are the same
And btw....if you think samsung does not releases source code.....then first look at your android development forum and then talk....ogp does not even have 5 good roms and look at note 2 forum ...overloaded with roms and kernels and other awsomeness...
No but this thread is somewhat annoying and not needed. Thread Closed.
Hi !, i´ve been without a smartphone for about 10 months and im currently contemplating getting a zenfone 2, the 4gb of ram version obviously, and i´ve been thinking how does the future looks for the zenfone 2? i mean sure, asus has already released the kernel source and most would think "OMG great! ROMs galore incoming!!" but that doesn´t seem to be the case. also, as far as updates go, for some reason i don´t see the zenfone 2 getting past an android 5.1 update.
maybe it is very hard (or just a pain in the ass) to develop for the intel cpu ?
im also considering the alcatel onetouch idol 3 wich everyone seems to love specially because of the price (and those JBL speakers), but im also considering getting a samsung galaxy alpha because the snapdragon 801 version sits right in the middle of the two price wise (check amazon US) , and the alpha camera records 60fps video wich i love, i know the LG G3 originally didn´t have 60fps video but got it later from right here on XDA,
so do you think the comunity will warm up to the ZF2 and start getting content out? (like a mod to capture 60 fps video on the zenfone 2 later down the road)
i don´t usually start threads but i just want to know what people think!.
Asus hasn't unlocked the boot loader yet, which will interfere with development...There's root so users can enjoy that at least. Unfortunately it'll be awhile until Asus releases an easy method to solve this obstacle.
Other devices have methods to bypass locked bootloaders, but nothing like that exists for the Zen.
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There's a few threads similar to this one already. Perhaps join in the discussion on one of those threads. Or you could ask specific questions here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/help/help-post-questions-instead-making-t2997779
Thread closed.
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