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In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
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http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!
We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.
confusedfella said:
We may not even get Gingerbread (the leaked one is supposedly for developing for the defy2). I wouldn't get my hopes high for Icecream at all.
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no way man! telus just released a version of the defy a couple of months ago.we've got at least two more years of love coming!
i am hoping as well... but here in indonesia, not even gingerbread
There's absolutely no point in getting excited till there's even confirmation of getting Gingerbread.
Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.
SWAT AXEL said:
In Q4, 2011, Google intend to combine Honeycomb for tables and Gingerbread for smart phones into one universal OS. Ice Cream Sandwich.
Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS. This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release! The announcement has been made around the same time that Windows Phone manufacturers Microsoft announce a universal OS in the form of Windows 8, and Apple's iOS5, which means universal operating systems are the way of the future. But the question is, will the Defy get some?
Source:
http://motoroladefy.com/index.php?/topic/247-ice-cream-sandwich-is-coming/
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-announces-ice-cream-sadwich-for-q4-2011-for-smartphones/
Guys I'm Really Excited!!!!!!!!!!
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I dont expect an official version of ice cream for my defy, Just hope Quarx or some other developer would be able to port i.. I'm sure my defy would be compatible for ice cream as well..
Cederic said:
Right, Q4 huh... so that's end of the year. Then add a few months of delays and small scale release, that's mid 2012. Then add a year on that for motorola being slowpokes with new releases.... that's mid 2013. I don't know about you, but as much as I love my defy I'll probably be having a new phone around then rather than getting excited over what will at that point already be old news.
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Man you said the right situation in motorola process , BUT even if they didn't release it for defy , they might unlock the bootloader, like samsung galaxy S2.
tAKE lOOK Here:
Samsung Sends Free Galaxy S2 To Hackers For Inspiration
According to the company, it has already sent a free Galaxy S2 to the CyanogenMod team as part of the plan.
http://www.itproportal.com/2011/06/13/samsung-sends-free-galaxy-s2-hackers-inspiration/#8
so i hope we can wait for something cool later time.
It's still possible, when CyanogenMod 8 comes...
Maybe this?
Ok so maybe Motorola will launch a new Defy. This time more powerful. So we will buy it and have that with running Android 4 and this one as an old phone with CM version of the new Android tweaked for it.
I personally use 2 phones. Primary smartphone Defy and secondly a phone only Nokia (no camera, radio, internet). But i would like using 2 smartphones. Actually that is the future. So in my case i can wait for a Defy2 and than keep this as well
Keep in mind that a smartphone's life is somewhere between 2-4 years. Battery/hardware and software wise . But who knows the Defy can prove even more resistant ....
SWAT AXEL said:
This seems to be the end of the OS fragmentation that has plagued the Android system since its release!
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The current fragmentation issue has nothing to do with Tablet and Handset form factors. I understood fragmentation is about manufacturers putting too much layers on top of OS to make their own version of Android i.e. Sense, TouchWhiz, Motorla, and so on.
User experience is a science, now imagine how much damage these manufacturers do to an OS that no one would want to learn how to use them. That is why many people would want to use handsets from the same manufacturer. Android introduced a new market and after few years everyone involved realising the cons and pros of it as no one had the experience working in such market model before.
My prediction is... Most manufacturers will give up putting their own layers for three main reasons:
1. Manufactures eventually can't catch up with the progress of Android's development and it would become a complex and expensive process to have.
2. The cost of hardware will significantly will be reduced, that means smaller manufactures giving stock Android start stealing market from the big boys.
3. Future Android versions would become rich in user experience that the cost of putting layers on top of already a rich interface is no longer justifiable.
and hopefully with this, release of OS will be much faster due to the more vanilla usage of Android instead of each company spending time and money on 'fragmenting' the OS....and devs like the MIUI and CM guys (plus all the other solo devs) can start porting it over much faster and easier.....and leave the fragmenting and customising to the community!
true
but if each developer releasing their own os like miui and cmd and etc you will never have stability in the os.
thats why i always stick to the official os.
((consider Camera issues and AGps fixes plus notworking parts in os properly))
Ice Cream Sandwich will be released this October/November.. There's even a Nexus S shipped on EBay which has ICS!!!!! Here it is!!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Pb6IyFvfg&feature=player_embedded
I'm really hoping to see it on Motorola Defy!!
Btw I noticed that all Android versions have a codename based on deserts..
Cupcake 1.5
Donut 1.6
Eclair (a cake) 2.1
Froyo (frozen yogurt) 2.2
Gingerbread 2.3
Honeycomb 3.0
Ice Cream Sandwich 2.4/4.0
lol
I think there will be a custom rom, but i don´t think we get it official.
Sorry for my bad English!
Julian
I don't think T-Mobile US Defy owners will ever see an official Gingerbread update, or anyone else for that matter.
Why would Motorola put one out when Defy+ is here? Defy team was moved to working on Defy+ long ago, that's why we still have a buggy official Froyo. They're just not working on Defy any longer.
They re-released the Defy calling it a Defy+ for the sake of a Gingerbread update. What makes you think they wont do the same for ICS. And ofcourse the Defy wont even get Gingerbread forget ICS.
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there is no question of getting official GB update in future. But I m sure there will be CM8 for defy
Anyway, CM8 sounds way better than a crappy ICS released by Motorola .
cannot w8 4 the ICS . even if our defy will not get an ICS update i'll buy a new phone
Any chance of a tasty Ice Cream Sandwich please for the Hero ?
thanks to elelinux for a great rom
should be possible after the release of the source code (maybe next month?).
without the source it looks for me that it won't be possible to boot the emulator image on our hero, because it is compiled for armeabi-v7a (snapdragon cpu) only.
thank you for your post
booooo sounds like time for an upgrade
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should be possible after the release of the source code (maybe next month?).
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I think source code was already released
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html
That's different. SDK is not kernel source. That's why most honeycomb Ports aren't complete. No source was released.
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Loxxy said:
Any chance of a tasty Ice Cream Sandwich please for the Hero ?
thanks to elelinux for a great rom
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Maybe someone can get it to run. but I don't get my hopes up if I where you. if you look at 2.3 how that runs on the hero comparing to 2.2 and mostly 2.1. And 4.0 even more stuffed then I guess not
touch wood, 2.3.7 is working well for me on my Hero (dont really to upgrade just to get Android 4.0)
But keeping an eye on some HTC Desires on ebay nonetheless
Lirasina said:
Maybe someone can get it to run.
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it probably will run. just wait for the source to be released.
I hope for a Vanilla 4.0, with no heavy CM mods
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it probably will run. just wait for the source to be released.
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I thinks so too.
I remember when on this forum we were discussing about porting Froyo 2.2. on the Hero...lol...
Its not long since the GB rom's were considered too fat for the hero. Look at us now..... mines has never been so quick.
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I completely agree with Prof Peach. GB was slow on first releases and now it flies so maybe it's hope for 4.0 too when the sources come out and them maybe it will boot on our Hero after the devs cast their magic.
yea, but don't forget the one and only honeycomb rom for gsm hero which JieeHD (I think) created from the sdk...
YES it was from sdk and so it was a miracle it ran at all, but it was SO slow that you couldn't even try the UI features of the rom. No the hardware didn't work at all, no data, wifi, etc, and that is all because it came from the sdk. That wasn't the purpose of the sdk build. It was just to play with the honeycomb UI, but even then the UI should have run alright if it was ever going to run on the hero.
However that rom (which I still have kicking around somewhere) showed me just how honeycomb was clearly made to run on much more powerful hardware than even gingerbread requires.
So I personally will be very surprised if it works well enough for daily use.
But then I'm running a gingerbread rom that is fast enough for daily use and perfectly stable... and I bet against that every happening back in teh day LoL.
I've been wrong before, and I hope you guys can prove me wrong again. I'm always happy to be wrong when I'm being pessimistic!
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To upgrade or not to upgrade? This is the big question for the android community!!!!
It will run on the hero, but since phones are getting bigger, i think it's gonna be kind of weird to run 4.0... We will have to see it ported firts
As far from what i see and what the google guys reported...every phone that can run GB can run ICS... so that means that there can't be a big problem to run the os, and since the nexus S will receive the update, that means that there is a way to disable the on screen buttons...
For the moment we stick with what we have !!! And we have to THANKS the devs that keep this phone alive. As for the part with upgrading to a new phone, i think we have to wait for the next gen of processors (quad core) or buy phones like nexus S that now are on slim prices
PS: since i got my tablet, i'm not so much into getting a new phone
Stefan
yea, tablets are awesome. Same here - I've used many android tablets and my employer supplies apple devices for my dev work at one company.
Tablets are awesome if you truly embrace them and buy whatever options you need to use them as virtual laptops effectively.
Agree with dkelley...if you have places where you can use them, it's better to have one...i use mine all the time, from movies and finishing with reading stuff.
I have to admin i was thinking on to buy a desire Hd / Nexus S...but not so shure
Stefan
yeah i love my Hero to bits, cost me £50 with Android 1.6 pre installed on it from some guy at work lol.
Whilst i can appreciate its an old handset etc etc, its running gingerbread like a dream, so would love to see the 'consolidated' release of 4.0 on there, i feel google will have dropped a legacy beat if only snapdragon cpus are supported.
admins feel free to move this to the Q&A sub-forum if required
stefpaul said:
i think we have to wait for the next gen of processors (quad core)
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This is why I didn't upgrade my phone yet!
I would like to get a beast with 1200x800 display resolution, android 4.0 with the new Quad-Core CPU...
Basically, almost a gaming machine...
yukinok25 said:
This is why I didn't upgrade my phone yet!
I would like to get a beast with 1200x800 display resolution, android 4.0 with the new Quad-Core CPU...
Basically, almost a gaming machine...
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For me the Hero is a phone. and nothing more. It is a little smarter phone then my moms. She can text and call. I can do that and I can also send mail check agenda and navigate some. That is what I use my phone for. If I need more then I will use my laptop anyway. So the Hero with some easy rom is fine for me.
Android 4.0 will bring problems and stuff that I will never use anyway. If you look at most devs on the Hero forum. They are good porters and breakers of things. I am the last one, a breaker XD There are still a half hand full of devs for the Hero.
I think the CDMA will have 4.0 sooner then the Hero. But that is just my oppinion. If they ever get it...
And is there an upgrade for sgs2?
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So what do you guys think? Would you use webOS on your shiny gnex if it was made available?
Since HP announced the release of the webOS source code, the recently abandoned operating system has grown a rather loyal following. Progress has been made in homebrew development and in custom builds for webOS native devices. Many forum members have been clamoring for a port of webOS to Android devices for several months now. Initial ports were expected to appear for the Motorola Droid or its GSM counterpart, the Milestone, since the devices share the same OMAP3 3430 processor with the Palm Pre (the very first native webOS device).
Recently an HTC EVO 3D was spotted running a build of webOS 3.0, the version that came with the notorious HP TouchPad. Originally posted by Ryan Hope (@_puffthemagic_) on Twitter, the 3 still images of webOS running have now been supplemented with a YouTube video that can be found here. While not functional enough for actual use, the operating system boots without issue. Ryan originally started work on the port before HP released the source code for webOS. With the release of both the Android kernel and the full webOS source porting progress can only move forward from here. Could this mean widespread availability of webOS ports on Android devices soon? Depending on interest level and developer involvement, it is a possibility!
If webOS is of interest to you don’t forget to check out our webOS forum section here. Want to get involved? Developers and *nix experts, check out the webOS Software and Hacking section here!
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No
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I'd definitely try it out for kicks, webOS was a great OS. The only problem is it was great. It's outdated now with a huge lack of apps. There's already an open source project with Android, and it's backed by a huge company. WebOS will be purely community driven with people working on it in their spare time or just for proof of concepts.
Colemak said:
I'd definitely try it out for kicks, webOS was a great OS. The only problem is it was great. It's outdated now with a huge lack of apps. There's already an open source project with Android, and it's backed by a huge company. WebOS will be purely community driven with people working on it in their spare time or just for proof of concepts.
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Same here. I'd say it has great potential. Now that it is opensource more developers will consider it as a viable app platform.
NO...I had a Pre Plus since it launched. First things first, it did have potential, webOS that is, if only devs would focus on it to bring iOS and Android apps. Secondly, the phone itself made me hate webOS and I doubt I will ever consider going back to a webOS device/phone.
WebOS was superb for its time. But the problem is it has not grown with new competitive features and additions like android and iOS has. Its been starved and abandoned, so it will never achieve parity with android.
I'd like to dualboot webOS, or even temporarily flash it. I never got to play with wOS, but i'd like to.
no way
the maturity level is too far behind android.
webOS is awesome. but circumstances -- bad hardware & worse marketing --> low user base --> no apps -- doomed it.
sad story. i liked it a lot.
I don't even use WebOS on my HP Touchpad, no way I'd put it on my Galaxy Nexus or any Android device.
The OS is nice, but without apps WebOS gets boring real quick. And I kinda like having home screens anyway.
ICS for sure.
I wouldn't mind running a webos UI over android but webos by itself is a no from me.
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I have an old phone I am not using that currently has an ICS rom on it, but if someone were to make a rom for it, I'd probably throw it on there to see what all the fuss is about webOS but more than likely remove it and put back ICS on it.
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So what do you guys think? Would you use webOS on your shiny gnex if it was made available?
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I loled. That's like using a v dub engine in a space ship.
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No. Feature set is no longer competitive and app ecosystem is far behind.
That said, Android was in the same boat but I loved it and the G1 anyway.
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You know what would be great? If someone developed a way for android apps to run on webOS. Similiar to what BB is doing for the playbook. It wouldn't be perfect ofcourse, but still a nice compromise.
If WebOS had two years more development then maybe but ICS is just light years away.
It wasn't the hardware lagging webos. Great concept very poor implementation which is why it failed.
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It wasn't the hardware lagging webos. Great concept very poor implementation which is why it failed.
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Well that's the whole reason opensource webos is interesting: now it won't be limited to crappy hardware from palm and hp.
Is this a joke thread?
WebOS was good but its OLD.
Thats like asking if I'd like to have my bluray player hooked up to a CRT LMAO.
ICS is the lastest and greatest high end OS on a high end device. You don't mix new tech with old software haha
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Is this a joke thread?
WebOS was good but its OLD.
Thats like asking if I'd like to have my bluray player hooked up to a CRT LMAO.
ICS is the lastest and greatest high end OS on a high end device. You don't mix new tech with old software haha
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Come on... How long ago did HP Touchpad came out? 6 months ago?
And when the developers have the source they can improve it and make it much better.
Hey everyone... Just wanted to thank you all for your knowledge, contributions, etc, on this phone/forum. I've decided to be rid of my Ion. You can still catch me in the LG L9 forums, and in the Nexus 7 forums. Hope to see some of you there. It's been fun!
Y u r selling ur ion??? Sony will release jb in 1 or 2 weeks...any way n'joy ur new phone...thanx for making petition thread...if att bootloader could be unlocked there would be a different community support to ion
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Cheers mate!
Good luck Mate. I agree. May be you can wait 1-2 weeks more just to see how the JB update goes.
@tribalartgod
Since you have opened the thread, can you rename it like this-
"FAREWELL- Leaving XS/ACRO S/iON - Say bye here".
Then all the other users those who are planning to leave any of the device too, can post their message here.
It would be great if you can do.
It's not that I don't like this device, in fact, I love it. I switched back to T-Mobile. Truely unlimited data, superb customer service, etc etc. I'll be back to an Xperia device in the near future. Just had to do what I had to do at this current moment. You all enjoy!
got the nokia n9 two weeks ago, and i believe i made the right choice: super reliable, super innovative and convenient user experience, many interesting apps developed by nokia, awesome integration between apps, much better multitasking experience than any phone currently available, faster than any dual core (maybe quad core as well) android, and even easier to develop than most android devices. the amount of apps is definitely the weakness of n9 but it basically gets the job done quite well. back to xperia ion, it is definitely the most annoying phone i have ever owned in my life. if sony mobile is not going to improve its shi*ty software builds, then goodbye forever. will come back and take a look after jelly bean is available for the ion though. one more thing, in my opinion, if google isn't changing the whole coding language of android, it won't change its lagdroid nature. Java really shouldn't be used to develop operating systems. project butter brought triple buffering which, yes it makes android much smoother but, drains much more battery while being already battery hungry.
OP enjoy your new/other Device...
Well Its about Releasing Driver Source For Cpu and Gpu By BroadCom
The Petition Sign SeemS To Get Completed
Already Reached 9890 .
Required 110 More For Request.
Well Its Like Forcing Broadcom For Releasing Drivers Source.
If We Get Then
If Broadcom releasethe drivers of GPU and CPU for BCM21553 devices, we should be able to run much more things than the one we can on custom OS. This will include CyanogenMod, AOSP, CyanMobile and lots of other differents OS. If they release the Source, we could have Ice Crean Sandwich 4.0.4 smooth on our device. Even we canthink of first Jelly Bean port based on 4.1.2. Port of android 2.3.7 it has released stable release due to we used Alcatel GPU and CPU libs. They were similar to AOSP, so we could use it on our devices for CyanogenMod 7.2, AOSP, and CyanMobile. All of them based on android 2.3.7, because Alcatel uses AOSP 2.3.7 sowe could use it easily.
HopinG That they Will Give Not Test Binaries Like older One
For SigninG Petition Goto Here
-https://www.change.org/petitions/broadcom-release-the-driver-source-of-gpu-and-cpu-for-bcm21553-devices
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they wont release anything if signs reach 10000 or more. change.org sent a lot of e mail already n many other users sent too but they dont care e mails. so no need to sign anymore. btw there is a thread about this topic already.
Galaxy Pop Plus'ımdan Tapatalk 2 ile gönderildi.
Lets See. What They Do. Cant Say That There is No Thread Like This.
yah there ate some old threat on this topic
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there are already threads for this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869565
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434321
do we really need more?
and on this topic its never going to happen - if they wanted to they would of done it over a year ago
I agree with OP... Just like other lower end devices (lower than GT-5360) which got a stable update from SAMS-- were able to flick this and that easily with their toys...
BUT OP, you should know.... Why is it that they are delaying such things or demanding this and that... ITS actually a smart MOVE.
Good day
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As marcussmith2626 says, we already have a few threads for this.
No need for any more.
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