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I am looking for a keyboard that is portable, and works without a powered hub on OTG.
Does anyone have something like this?

You could try using a bluetooth dongle to connect to a nice wireless portable keyboard like the Apple Wireless Keyboard, or just use the Wired Apple Keyboard which is a little larger but still pretty thin.

Are there any Bluetooth dongles that work? Mine has never working with CM9/CM10.
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Looked around to find more info but couldn't find quite what I was looking for. First off, I wanted to confirm that any bluetooth keyboard/mouse should be compatible with the Atrix. Second, (assuming the first was correct...) I wanted to hear if people have tried other keyboards/mice with the Atrix. I'm assuming that the android related keys found on the official motorola keyboard are still available on normal keyboards, just labeled differently?
Thanks in advance!
Do we really need bluetooth? What about a usb hub and wireless kb / mouse? I don't own a bluetooth kb and mouse so dropping $100 on these is almost pointless. Anyone try this method yet:
micro usb ----> usb adapter ----> usb hub -------> usb kb /usb mouse
Either way... basically just trying to find other options for the webtop. I looked around and found out that I was mistaken about the pricing on bluetooth keyboards and mice. Apparently the Motorola keyboard/mouse aren't too ridiculously priced compared to other bluetooth options. I still feel like I could justify a regular keyboard more because I could still use it for a computer or something. Can't help but feel the moto keyboard would go unused aside from the atrix.
I'm one adapter short of testing the hub idea, I'll let you know sometime this week if it works. Right now I'm just using it with the virtual trackpad/kb...
If anyone wants to try this here is a USB gender changer that should allow you to plug a hub into the phone (for a usb keyboard/mouse) using the included micro usb cord. even tough its ~$3.00 I dont care about webtop enough to try it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
Just tried my razer Orochi blue tooft mouse when docked in the laptop dock and it paired right up and works perfect
So if this mouse works i would think any one will work.
Apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse work, if that's the way you roll. The media buttons on the keyboard will even fire up the music player on the phone. Brightness buttons don't do anything though.
It looks like the Atrix's own bluetooth keyboard is quite nice quality and very compact. does anyone have it that can give us a little review of it? I wouldn't mind using it as my main keyboard for my desktop.
Does anyone have the apple BT keyboard running on a windows 7 system? does it work well?
Logitech DiNovo Edge successfully paired with Atrix
I successfully paired my Logitech DiNovo Edge keyboard with my Atrix today and hooked the phone up to my TV via HDMI. Worked perfectly. Loved having the connection mod without needing a dock. Was able to do a lot from the couch
The DiNovo Edge has a built in mouse pad and is very sturdy and high quality. One of my all time favorite keyboard/mouse combo's.
Hope this helps.
I had actually looked at the edge in the past... seems like it would be a good pairing for the Atrix. Might have to give that a try. I just need to justify the cost to myself.
CC Lemon said:
I had actually looked at the edge in the past... seems like it would be a good pairing for the Atrix. Might have to give that a try. I just need to justify the cost to myself.
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If you don't mind the size it's, imho, perfect. I have a few other BT keyboards I'm going to try to pair when I get time...if I get a chance I'll report back.
Where can you buy the Motorola keyboard?
Bigsam411 said:
If anyone wants to try this here is a USB gender changer that should allow you to plug a hub into the phone (for a usb keyboard/mouse) using the included micro usb cord. even tough its ~$3.00 I dont care about webtop enough to try it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
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That's not the right adapter at all... you need a female A -> male micro for one device, or however you want to then convert the other side. I'm waiting on that part then mine goes from that to a mini usb into my hub. might not work but we'll see.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0023FTRUO
Well non-bt doesn't work for me at least. I'm sure we just have to load a driver or something. I tried atrix -> male micro usb -> regual usb female -> male usb -> mini usb -> hub. It should be noted it was a powered usb hub. My mouse plugged into the hub didn't work, so I gave up haha.
barry99705 said:
Apple bluetooth keyboard and mouse work, if that's the way you roll. The media buttons on the keyboard will even fire up the music player on the phone. Brightness buttons don't do anything though.
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Have you tried the apple keyboard in webtop mode I can't get it to work at all but if I connect it to the phone before that it works fine it's kind of weird
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Possible to make "shell" to turn it into a netbook?

(Apologies if this has been asked before or if it's mind-bogglingly retarded.)
What we have with the SGS2 is remarkable - it's as powerful as a netbook, with video-out and USB host functionality.
It seems to me that carrying such a super-phone alongside a netbook would be a waste of money and effort, when the processor in the SGS2 is more than up to scratch.
So what would be the obstacles in making a "shell" that provided a laptop-like keyboard, mouse and screen, with an SGS2 where the processor, RAM and so on would normally be housed? (The SGS2 would be removable, of course.)
These are the ones I can think of:
USB/Bluetooth keyboard support - may have to be Bluetooth keyboard.
Touch input? (May have to be Bluetooth mouse, but mouse input is possible in Android)
Connecting a monitor and USB device through the same USB port (not necessary if keyboard/mouse are Bluetooth)
Battery life - just make the shell house a fat battery!
So let's say we could piece all that together - a keyboard, mouse, battery and screen in one shell. It could come out considerably cheaper and lighter than a netbook, with all the SGS2's media playback abilities, internet without having to tether, and no need to change apps when going from netbook to phone.
There's probably something I haven't thought of, but I couldn't resist posting.
Thoughts?
I would love to see something like this happen. The SGS2 will be my first Android phone, coming from WinMo, so I've no idea what is available or is possible with the OS. One reason I bought this phone was because I wanted to connect a Bluetooth keyboard (and mouse?) to it and keep it mounted on a dock or stand right below my two monitors at work, serving as an internet/chat/email computer, instead of taking my phone AND laptop to work every day.
Now I may be mistaken, but MHL doesn't support simultaneous USB and HDMI out, so if you wanted to connect input devices AND have monitor out, I'd guess the keyboard and mouse would have to be Bluetooth, as you've mentioned. One thing that interests me is something the Wiki entry mentions:
"The HDTV remote will control the connected device with guaranteed mixed manufacturer interoperability."
So perhaps one day we might see some SGS2 "lapdock" like the Atrix?
Check out what the guy says at 8:50 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
He says, basically, that he can connect the device to a tv through MHL, connect a BT keyboard and mouse, then sit back on his couch and use his device like a living room PC.
Bump...
Any news?
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
You won't be able to do a full netbook, because the microUSB connector on the SGS2 can be used either as microUSB or MHL (HDMI video out + charger input); the two functions of the connector are mutually exclusive. So, if you're piping the SGS2's video out to the shell's display, you have no USB, and if you're using the USB, there's no external video.
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
Hm, are you 100% sure about them being mutually exclusive?
GunnarKarlsson said:
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
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Interesting, but I would still prefer a full size keyboard.
How is it connected? USB? BT?
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3waygeek said:
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
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No idea how this can be realized. Afaik, there is a VNC client installed, but no server.
Guess it is easier to try what is mentioned above :
Use NHL to get the monitor working and BT for the keyboard. Would be good to have some profile, which enables the BT keyboard when NHL is plugged, maybe through locale or so.
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I know this thread is kinda old now, but some recent tech news brought this idea back to memory for me. ICE Computer showed a docking tablet they call Trinity at Computex 2011, which apparently can be made to dock with nearly any phone or even a PC module. I didn't find too much info that wasn't regurgitated between sites, but it sounds like they won't be selling it themselves, rather they'll sell it to other companies who want one for their device.
My hope is they'll sell some kind of universal version that takes different phones and maybe just requires a different-shaped module for different phones. Here's a link to the Engadget post, but there are other pages that describe what it does and when it should be available.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ice-computer-shows-off-trinity-modular-tablet-concept-aims-for/
Add a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, perhaps a stand, and voila!
Need a solution like this
1) MHL output to a tv/ monitor
2) Bluetooth keyboard and mouse work over HID profile
3) Remote Desktop software that allows use of external keyboard and mouse and which can output native resolution rather than just mirroring the screen.

Bluetooth Mouse?

Hey,
I am looking for a bluetooth mouse that can pair directly to the phone.
I got this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002Y6CJJ8/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
And although it works great on the PC, it doesn't have any kind of independent pairing without the dongle.
Can anyone link a bluetooth mouse that they can confirm working on the Galaxy Nexus?
I bought the Motorola blue-tooth mouse and keyboard and they work great.
The mouse by itself is $30 but if you buy the keyboard for $40 they give you the mouse for free! (Just be sure to add them both to your cart)
http://www.store.motorola.com/Wirel...JK7GE0?ie=UTF8&prevPageletDesc=DP:Accessories
They had this deal in December and I picked them both up. They work well, just bear in mind there is very limited right click functionality in Android. I had a grand vision of using remote desktop on my phone to access my home PC but quickly came to realize without right click it's kinda difficult.
Hopefully right click support will improve.
I'm using this one and is working great with my GN: http://www.serioux.com/products/keyboards/srx-prc82
This Dell Bluetooth mouse works. Model PU705
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Premiu...35?pt=Mice&hash=item3f1299858f#ht_3452wt_1110
Successfully using a Logitech M-RBB93 with 4.0.2 right now. I guess it could be useful for presentations.
I have the Logitech M310 and it will not pair. AM I doing something wrong?
I have this one that I use from logitech: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Blue...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337988329&sr=1-1
It is one that I just had kicking around (I believe I got it as a gift one year) and I dont use it that often but I just sync'd it with my phone no problem and it gets the job done. However if you plan on using the phone a lot as a desktop computer I would suggest that you get a different one since its not very ergonomically suited for long periods of use (IMO although it could be just that since my hands are pretty big it is just uncomfortable for me to use for a long period).
I use a Microsoft Bluetooth 5000 mouse, paired quickly and works well. Got it on sale for $24.99 so I'm happy.
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I'm using this Lenovo Bluetooth mouse with my ThinkPad Tablet. It should similarly work with our smartphones.
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...B78A0F49D18148731559AF4603&hide_menu_area=yes
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I have a logitech bluetooth mouse, but I dont see it from my nexus..
shouldn't the mouse be visible from my device? i tried swithcing the mouse off and on, but no way..
not every mouse can be used?
andQlimax said:
I have a logitech bluetooth mouse, but I dont see it from my nexus..
shouldn't the mouse be visible from my device? i tried swithcing the mouse off and on, but no way..
not every mouse can be used?
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1) Make sure the mouse isn't currently paired with another device.
2) Tap the "connect" button on the mouse to make it discoverable.
Just tested with my Logitech v470 and it works flawlessly.
Razer Orochi mouse seems to work well. Haven't tested it extensively though.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-orochi
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codesplice said:
1) Make sure the mouse isn't currently paired with another device.
2) Tap the "connect" button on the mouse to make it discoverable.
Just tested with my Logitech v470 and it works flawlessly.
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my bluetooth mouse have an usb adapter for the laptop (its called logitech unifying receiver), so i think it's not a standart bluetooth mouse maybe
because there is no way to see the mouse with my gn, or even with the bluetooth on the laptop, only work with the adapter
not a big deal anyway..
What sort of applications will a BT mouse be compatible with? Buying a mouse for a phone seems hardly worth it.
andQlimax said:
my bluetooth mouse have an usb adapter for the laptop (its called logitech unifying receiver), so i think it's not a standart bluetooth mouse maybe
because there is no way to see the mouse with my gn, or even with the bluetooth on the laptop, only work with the adapter
not a big deal anyway..
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It may just be a wireless mouse then if it requires a USB dongle.
johno86 said:
What sort of applications will a BT mouse be compatible with? Buying a mouse for a phone seems hardly worth it.
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Any and all applications, really. It may not make much sense (to you) for use on the phone's screen, but what about when you make use of the HDMI video output and have your phone displayed on your TV? And, of course, since it is the Bluetooth standard, you're not buying a mouse JUST for a phone. The mouse will work on anything that supports the Bluetooth HID.
Ah yes I had totally forgotten about HDMI output onto the TV. For convenience I suppose a BT mouse would be the best alternative.
I use this mouse with my Nexus GSM, works quite well, I also use it with many other computing items. Paid too much for it but I love the way it looks and how it feels in my hand.
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vaio-mice-keyboards/vgpbms20-w.ce

wireless mouse?

droider seeks enlightenment:
having found an excellent Bluetooth keyboard (Logitech K810) for my shiny new N7 i'm now looking for a wireless mouse, don't really care if it needs a transceiver or not. searching around hasn't yielded any particularly promising leads. (yes, i've heard of the Google machine, no joy)
is this a weird thing to be looking for? do they all work with Android so, duh!, just buy one or is it so odd/marginal/doesn't-work-so-well that i'm barking up the wrong tree?
related to this, how well do the smartphone-as-mouse apps work with a droid tablet? most say "mouse away on your PC" but i'm not seeing much about doing it on the tablet.
microsoft wedge mouse .. but like the majority of bluetooth devices, there is a bug so you'll need to wait for an update from Google to fix .. you'll probably find the same with your keyboard.
yeah, i'd heard there was a bug but so far the keyboard has been good.
so, bug aside, should any old bluetooth mouse be expected to work well? that's kind of what i'd expect but you never know, tech weirdness and all.
I got the Logitech bluetooth trackpad (k651?) and it works like a charm with my k811 bluetooth keyboard. Have them paired to my Macbook, iPad, and Nexus 7 (2013) with no problems.
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Fry's had HP x4000b bluetooth mice on sale for $17.99. It pairs and works fine with the Nexus 7 (after adjusting speed).
I have an old MS 5000 BT netbook travel mouse. Works great.
I recently bought a noname keyboard and mouse from ebay, the keyboard works great... the mouse worked once and then was never able to reconnect after hours of unpairing and repairing it just won't ever work again... even tried a factory reset on the tablet no dice.... the same mouse works perfect on my s4 regardless of how many times i unpair it and reconnect
what mice are confirmed working more than once on the nexus 7
I have logitech wireless keyboard and mouse...for my N7(2013) which works really well...I got it from Amazon...and its working really fine..sometimes it creates a problem in connecting and pairing but most of the time it works smoothly and very fine....If you are facing such problems with the mouse then you better consult the customer service support as they could be the right person to sort it out.....
I use a Razer orochi. Its a great little mouse with decent specs and a great scroll wheel. Comes with a zip up pouch and a USB connector to.
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player911 said:
I have an old MS 5000 BT netbook travel mouse. Works great.
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Ditto on that here.
magicaly it seems the mouse decided to finaly pair and connect. still shopping for a fullsize bluetooth keyboard to use my tablet as a desktop connected to my tv
I can use my Logitech K810 keyboard and M555b mouse - both Bluetooth.
Works very well, no hickups.
The K810 also have 3 switches to...switch to 3 different BT devices on the fly. I can connect my Windows 7, iMac and Nexus 7 at work flawlessly.
Well i have this combo of wireless mouse and keyboard from Logitech and its working really fine...but the only thing which is worrying me is the instant disconnect of the keyboard time and time...and not pretty sure about the battery life of the keyboard too....but at the price they are offered are worth of it...and the disconnection problem is there but not most of the time.....
this is the one which I have
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-combo-mk320?crid=27
For me I use a universal cover with keyboard which uses a cable and since I have a phone I use it as a mouse with droidmote but since im so used to virtual keyboard I often use my keyboard cover as a stand and droidmote as the controller
Jimmy2u said:
I have logitech wireless keyboard and mouse...for my N7(2013) which works really well...I got it from Amazon...and its working really fine..sometimes it creates a problem in connecting and pairing but most of the time it works smoothly and very fine....If you are facing such problems with the mouse then you better consult the customer service support as they could be the right person to sort it out.....
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hi Jimmy,
Are you using the Logitech Wireless Combo MK320 kb-mouse? How are you connecting it to the N7 - Do you have a unifying nano-receiver connected through a OTG cable?
I am trying to connect the K400 with the OTG cable, it is not working out.
Thanks,
here's wht i hav tried. worked great without any tinkering (root, 3rd party apps etc)-
1. sony ps3 controller.
2. various usb mice.
3. mircosoft wireless mouse (the ones with the usb dongle).
4. logitech wireless keyboard mouse combo.

Looking for a keyboard with a trackpad for my 2014 Note 10.1

All options seem to have a huge lip of leather coming off the bottom portion right under the touchpad, or need a kickstand for support which is not practical on your lap.
Any suggestions?
I bought a Motorola KZ-450 combo keyboard/trackpad that's got a protective cover that turns into a stand about two years ago on one of those "Deal A Day" sites for $30 or $45. I keep it in one of those generic cloth 10" tablet pouches along with my Note.
My only regret with it? Not buying two at that price- it's been pretty much perfect for me, and I use it to bang out E-mails when I'm flying.
Any other options out there with a trackpad? The motorola doesn't seem to be available in the UK
Been looking for something similar myself.
All I've been able to find are touchpad based solutions...not that practical
I was looking for the same until I ordered this today: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I describe why that one won out of the 100s of keyboards I was checking for certain features (priority, quick switch, multi-device pairing, lower priority, trackpad). Not only does it have both of those, but also a built in IR (learning) remote! Check out my post in the other keyboard topic on this page, where I describe it a bit more. Hope that one appeals to you!
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My bad, thanks for letting me know http://www.amazon.com/Ultrathin-Wireless-Bluetooth-Programmable-Rechargeable/dp/B00EZL1N6U
what about this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Perixx-PERIDU...1-9&keywords=bluetooth+keyboard+with+trackpad
I use the Logitech K410. Perfect and not too pricey.
sorry for the bump but... does k410 works via bluetooth ot you use the USB dongle with a cable?
dukemagus said:
sorry for the bump but... does k410 works via bluetooth ot you use the USB dongle with a cable?
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I wasn't part of this thread, but I hvae used logitech products with my android devices that were meant for windows. I have my Trackball M570 and one of my wireless K800 keyboard both connected to the same wireless dongle. When I want to use them with my Note 10.1 2014, I plug wireless receiver dongle into an adapter, like this OTG cable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GM0OZ4O/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So, it connects wirelessly as it would to the pc, not via bluetooth.
Only other thing to note is, the apps Logitech has for Android keyboards will not work with things like the k800.
There are miniaturized keyboards with touch pads and often a remote control on the other side for smart tvs. But these are wifi based, maybe additionally with bluetooth. Or there's some wireless remote(the wifi ,not IR kind) or wifi keyboard driver/app for Android.
I found this one
http://www.amazon.it/LEICKEĀ®-Sharon...kmr0&keywords=tastiera+touchpad+note+10.1+014
It's very cool, but they don't sell a version with Italian layout (And the keyboard is not attached to the cover, but you can fix it with some glue XD)
Do you know something similar sold with different layouts?

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