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Pics of the HD Entertainment Center / Webtop Access Kit

Fyi,
Some pics on a 19inch 720p extra monitor I had to test out the kit that arrived today. Here are some Pics.
It includes
Remote control for media
Bluetooth Keyboard
Bluetooth Mouse
Docking Station w/ usb ports (Perfect for external 1tb hdd w/ media)
*Next test is the 46"LED TV (when the wife is done... *sigh*)
The worlds most powerful smartphone, streaming Pandora, surfing the web, a little facebook, some XDA, and speedtest.net (I tried to install Chrome, #fail )
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Killster

PS.. I have the body glove case, and you have to remove it for the dock.
killster

Looks like a nice setup. How long does it take the actual webtop to become usable?

loztboy said:
Looks like a nice setup. How long does it take the actual webtop to become usable?
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when you dock the phone, it does its "little" thing and you are at a usable desktop in about 30-45 seconds.
Killster

Mobile Viewe
Is there a way to get just the Mobile Viewer part on my computer when i connect the USB?
I want to be able to control my phone through my computer, I dont need the rest of the webtop stuff.

Room7 said:
Is there a way to get just the Mobile Viewer part on my computer when i connect the USB?
I want to be able to control my phone through my computer, I dont need the rest of the webtop stuff.
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Me too -- the normal apps that I've used in the past to control via VNC or web don't seem to work with the Atrix :/

Nice pics, they came out good. I couldn't get a good angle without reflection for pics of mine..Heres my unboxing and small demo of the entertainment pkg.. I got it for 161.99 at amazon and it came with the multimedia dock, bt keyboard and mouse, and remote... I didnt want to start a new thread since I saw yours..
Heres my vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfnduazUEHs

Whats the highest resolution it supports? I have a 2650x1600 monitor and am worried it will look bad with the dock.

Thanks for the pics
How is the experience with the keyboard and mouse? Is it like using a regular computer if you are on wifi? Is the mouse smooth and not laggy?
I did the webtop mod and used my flat panel..it was viewable but using the phone keyboard/mouse just didn't work well. I also tried a Logitech DiNovo mini but the keyboard was too small and the n and 1 keys worked only some of the time. I am thinking about springing for the bundle like you did.
Thanks,
Ron

@ash dog check out this link for the resolution specs for it...
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63272/~/webtop---display-resolutions
@rpolansky it is very smooth on both the keyboard and mouse end, the only thing I found to ever have lag is the built in webtop firefox browser. But that has nothing to do with the accessories.. when i use the mouse and keyboard for games or text messaging, I have yet to have a lag..

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@ash dog check out this link for the resolution specs for it...
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63272/~/webtop---display-resolutions
@rpolansky it is very smooth on both the keyboard and mouse end, the only thing I found to ever have lag is the built in webtop firefox browser. But that has nothing to do with the accessories.. when i use the mouse and keyboard for games or text messaging, I have yet to have a lag..
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Thank you, sir! That made my mind up I am going to order it...
Ron

Thanks for the info on the rez!
I'm leaning toward the lapdock now.

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Thanks for the info on the rez!
I'm leaning toward the lapdock now.
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No problem....yeah the lap dock looks awesome but I won't pay that price. I would pay 250$ tops..I'm sure it will come down
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Digital Tv Tuner?

Anyone know if this is possible?
Basically I want to watch live tv on my xoom. I want to pull the signal straight from the airwaves and not use 3g or wifi etc. Anyone know any device that would do this for me? Basically something I could just plug-in and be able to watch live tv?

First, you'll need a tuner (mini PCI-E or USB) Then you'll need drivers to use that tuner, possible that a major tuner mfg could write them but then Google or a dev will need to build them into a distro. Finally, you need an app that can interpret the data received from the tuner.
The likelihood of all of these things coming together is unlikely due to the small market for such a tuner. I, personally, would love it.

TV on Xoom
I realize this is not the config you are looking for, but I purchased a DVR like box called a Vulkano made by Monsoon and basically it goes between your TV and the Cable box (and to your router). It then provides a feed to an app for android (free and/or paid) and tt literally controls your cable box remotely, and you can watch live TV, your saved shows, setup recordings, record to your device, etc.
I've tested on my Evo, Xoom, and A7, which all work.
However, the recent update to 3.1 caused the Xoom version to not work anymore, but the developers said a fix is coming soon.
While I was on 3.0 the HD channels on the Xoom were F-ing sweet!
The box was about $150, but there are multiple versions, and I bought this on a whim hoping it would just do DVR type functions, but went well beyond that.
I've run it over wifi, 3g, and tethered to 3g, and all have worked very well.
Again, maybe not the config you want, but this is nothing short of AWESOME!!

isnt that kind of like "slingbox" and how did you get it to work with 3g?

TV on Xoom
Pretty much exactly like Slingbox (I think, never used it), just cheaper and they have a free App for Android and Apple. There's a paid App version, but didn't bother since the freebie worked good for me. I use it on my Evo and eLocity A7 all the time via 3g and/or Tether. And until the HC 3.1 update I was able to use it on my Xoom via 3g. If you get a good signal or go wifi it will stream in HD, and looks killer on the Xoom. But alas, the developer needs to update it for HC 3.1, impatiently waiting for that!
Also I found that if you record thru the App, it stores it locally on whatever device you are using. I often use it on my PC, and then save it to my NAS drive for remote access later.
Like I said before, I was trying this out as a maybe option, and was totally stoked at what I got for $150, I think the slingbox doesn't quite do all this, and costs like twice as much for the Pro, and you still have to pay $25 for their App.
There is also 6 versions of the hardware to fit your budget and needs.

here you go, pick a channel and watch.
http://www.mobiletv.net

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here you go, pick a channel and watch.
http://www.mobiletv.net
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nice find. Not exactly what I was looking for.
I am looking for a dtv tuner that connects to the xoom. If anyone figures this out please post.

They had talked about a version of the Samsung Moment that would do this, not sure if it ever came state side or not. But that could take care of the tuner software side, then you would need a device and a driver, I remember having a winTV device at one point in time that worked in ubuntu with out any extra work...so there's definitely linux support for the type of device.
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Live T.V
hey if there is any developers out there .. could you possibly try to get this to work for Xoom? I use to have an archos, and I was able to put live t.v on it .. but the system was modified for it, using URUKDROID.. I'm just wondering if we can just extract the drivers and use the T.V app that comes with this installation???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871391

Theres a blank header inside my UK3G Xoom, I'd love to get TV on the go, either by sticking a card in or perhaps hardwiring something to a USB header inside the device?

this?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elgato-Tivi...0FBK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330198622&sr=8-1
I'd love to get comments from anyone who has one on android.

pctv broadway 2T wifi and internet, great quality dvb

I own an old dreambox 500. It can stream live satelite signal . Also videos,mp3, remote pvr.etc. it didnt cost me more than 60 dlls. Ita not illegal if you put your smart tv card in this reciever. I can watch my tv since android 2.1 via stream and my xoom can run them without delay. Im trying to buy a dm800 or dm500hd i hear the stream is much smooth

This thread is on my radar. Low priority but on my radar nonetheless.

bigrushdog said:
This thread is on my radar. Low priority but on my radar nonetheless.
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That, is awesome...
Have some sauce..
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Anyone know of a case with a keyboard that works with the Fire?

hi i've been looking for a while now and ive found a few 7' tablet cases with keyboards and was wondering if anyone has tried one with the kindle fire.

It's highly unlikely right now.
The chip set in the Kindle apparently supports Bluetooth, but Amazon chose to not enable it. There are talented devs at work to enable it, but nothing so far.

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I am not the most tech savy person out there, but is there no other portable external keyboard that would be compatible with the KF that is not necessarily Bluetooth. I started school, and love using my KF for simple note taking, but i can only swype so fast lol, and would love to use it for faster and longer note taking.
Any suggestions or ideas would be great!

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I am not the most tech savy person out there, but is there no other portable external keyboard that would be compatible with the KF that is not necessarily Bluetooth. I started school, and love using my KF for simple note taking, but i can only swype so fast lol, and would love to use it for faster and longer note taking.
Any suggestions or ideas would be great!
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At the moment, no. The only options for keyboards are bluetooth and usb, neither of which are currently available on the KF.
You will either have to wait for a ROM that can support it (thus rooting and flashing your KF) or wait and see if Amazon will release an OTA which enables the support.

RawRmon said:
Any suggestions or ideas would be great!
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Get a stylus and use it on a journal type app? That's what I'm doing at the moment. Then I go home and type it all out on Evernote since it's a bit sloppy. I'm actually going to give Quill a try next week which supports Evernote too.

I dont know why amazon would have bluetooth and the other stuff that ppl would use disabled.
I think it only hurts the sell of the KF if you ask me, haha I wouldnt have the one I have if my wife wouldnt have gotten it.

It's unfortunate that this isn't possible yet, it's something I would really like to see.

so there isn't any keyboards that work over wifi that could work? That's kinds what I was thinking. I know its possible because I got a app that uses one aneroid device to control another over wifi.

joda08 said:
so there isn't any keyboards that work over wifi that could work? That's kinds what I was thinking. I know its possible because I got a app that uses one aneroid device to control another over wifi.
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Yes, there are apps that use a computer to do the same thing. HOWEVER, there is no such thing as a dedicated wifi enabled keyboard. Why? Because the speeds wouldn't be fast enough for daily usage. It'd be like using dialup, except that instead for webpages taking a minute to load up, it'll be all your keystrokes.
Wifi connections are good for home sharing files/music/video, but not for something that should only take .0000000000001 milliseconds. Lol.
Which is why Bluetooth and USB are the mainly used interface. They're faster, they are not dependent on your router, and are far easier to plug & play.

A little bump but is there anyway this thing can help?
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Can I plug it in with a bluetooth usb, usb keyboard or 3g usb or whatever using the same thing?
I know the other tablets can do this but Im not sure kindle's roms support it

You cant use that cable, Kindle Fire doesn't support USB host. Developers are trying to make ICS work fully and neither bluetooth or USB host are priority to them.

Not yet.
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Bumped into a RIM guy with a playbook. He was testing out a bluetooth enabled keyboard and showed it to me. Very nice.

Using the Galaxy Nexus as a home theater/desktop PC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_--zcmqIyRI
Not thinking "ground breaking" or anything, but very nice stuff none the less.
I had an Atrix 4G with the Lapdock accessory (+webtop mod) before the GNEX, so using my android phone as my computer is something i'm familiar with, even though it was in a different way.
I also have the Rii mini bluetooth keyboard and tried once with the Nexus connected to my TV. Just that one time because I received the MHL adapter very recently.
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It did not play nice. I'll test it again soon and post an update.
But until then..
Any other Nexus owners here using their phone as a desktop PC/HTPC/entertainment center?
Any recommended full sized bluetooth keyboard+touchpad?
Thanks

I just use a Bluetooth mouse and a cheap bt thumb keyboard off eBay with a good layout for direction keys. I don't have an MHL adapter yet but it should work. I think your issue is your keyboard\mouse combo may be too complicated without some software.
LTE EX Galaxy Nexus - CM9 AOKP
Asus Transformer - Revolver

Something else I've tried is installing ubuntu in a chroot, accessing it through VNC, and using bluetooth mouse+keyboard with MHL output. Results are shaky at best. VNC is the bottleneck - none of the VNC clients I've tried really work perfectly.
Some typical issues:
- Double-clicking doesn't work
- Keys are not always mapped properly. Escape, Tab, Ctrl, Alt, for example.
- Audio doesn't work at all.
- Because it's through VNC, graphics are not hardware accelerated.
The efficiency of using a full linux install with a keyboard is lost when the keyboard doesn't function as expected.

Looks promising. I would like to see desktop programs like spreadsheets, real time financial apps, or maybe sending something to the printer.

I did. No add ons. Everything was from the GN and the MHL adapter with the back cover off.

TiltedAz said:
Looks promising. I would like to see desktop programs like spreadsheets, real time financial apps, or maybe sending something to the printer.
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this part is easy using Google Cloud Print.
I used it before and it works flawlessly.
http://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/

This is such a cool idea. When I scrape up a few extra bucks I am definitely going to have to try this at home.

CyberPunk7t9 said:
Any other Nexus owners here using their phone as a desktop PC/HTPC/entertainment center?
Any recommended full sized bluetooth keyboard+touchpad?
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I'm using my SGN as a terminal to access my citrix desktop at work. I used to carry around a netbook for this but now, with my SGN resolution and with the help of a bluetooth keyboard the need for my netbook is gone .
As a bluetooth keyboard I'm using a slightly larger one (compared with Rii you're using): http://www.serioux.com/products/keyboards/srx-prc82

This may be a stupid question but ... How did you have the screen turned on landscape mode?

erkv said:
This may be a stupid question but ... How did you have the screen turned on landscape mode?
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It's rotated to landscape by default after connecting to TV via MHL.

ro_explorer said:
As a bluetooth keyboard I'm using a slightly larger one (compared with Rii you're using): http://www.serioux.com/products/keyboards/srx-prc82
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Where do you buy this thing? No issues?

I could see this being practical for basic needs word processing etc. But any photo/video editing will be out of the question for some time..

ro_explorer said:
I'm using my SGN as a terminal to access my citrix desktop at work. I used to carry around a netbook for this but now, with my SGN resolution and with the help of a bluetooth keyboard the need for my netbook is gone .
As a bluetooth keyboard I'm using a slightly larger one (compared with Rii you're using): http://www.serioux.com/products/keyboards/srx-prc82
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I was considering this Logitech keybaord. But now that you mentioned this I'm going to A/B them.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wire...0-003070/dp/B005DKZTMG/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_0

I dont plan on using mine as a desktop computer but for my galaxy tab 10.1 I have this bluetooth keyboard from logitech that sync'd perfectly and works well with the nexus also.
It is, I would say, about the size of a laptop keyboard so you can get a good rhythm going once you get comfortable with the keys and the size of the keyboard.
As for mouse, I have no idea. I have this cheap one from that is bluetooth form logitech also but I dont like using it. But in a pinch its better than nothing.

Where did you purchase the serioux keyboard?

I bought the serious from a local store (I found it by chance .. I was not looking for it on purpose). I see that lots of online stores here in Romania have this keyboard in stock ....

If you want to make an idea about the size, compared with a full sized keyboard....
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I have a google t.v. Keyboard Which I thought would work but its not discoverable by default so I will have to buy a bt keyboard and mouse. MHL is nice though its great that this can be done.

I have been using this setup off an on for a few weeks now. I actually had an Apple keyboard and mouse sitting around the house and they paired with the device perfectly.
I also did the Ubuntu install and you are absolutely right... VNC is the bottle neck and it makes everything unusable.
While its fun to toy around with, it is still too clunky of a setup for me to make it my permanent laptop replacement. If I could get the output on the monitor to be a tablet layout instead of a close up of the phone screen, it may be a different story.

My GN has basically become my multimedia hub/ desktop. I used the Samsung mhl adapter to avoid some problems I heard about with other adapters. I use the Logitech bt Android 3.0+ keyboard mouse combo. Got these on Amazon.
On my TV I use Gmail, Calendar, GDocs, Netflix, Music, Weather, Market Movies, etc... I love it.
And even use Google Video Chat off the back camera using the keyboard case stand!
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Does any ROM support USB host mode?

Hello anyone,
I just recieved a lovely FiiO E17 Alpen DAC & Headphone Amplifier which can act as a portable USB external soundcard for an android smartphone but only if the ROM supports USB host mode.
I have searched and found nothing. I would love to find a compatable rom for my desire HD.
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions?
I will update this thread if I find anything.
Cheers

According to this it doesn't seem that any such rom exists. There were some attempts to make a working kernel but they seem to have failed. So there's no rom, i think.

Thanks for the reply Slavon-93.
Yes - it seems like USB Host implementation is close but no cigar.
When it does come along its going to be great - not just for music but for all the other USB devices that will be able to integrate with our smartphones

I would pay for that...
my tablet is ush host with dual boot Ubuntu and since our dhd are powerful enough to run linux it would be nice to have it!
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Agreed - I would pay also!

audio out
It works with Nook color and CM7 nightly.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/571944/ot-digital-out-on-android-phone/15
My Fiio E17 is arriving within the next days - I would be very happy if this will work. If not, it could be a reason to change the phone - or buy a Nook..

Just wait because somebody is making a kernel for OTG feature
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Thanks tessut
That's great to hear. Is this the kernel you referred to?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518896

That kernel looks very promising. Apparently other issues have higher priority, so we probably need to be a bit patient about our issue

henrylar said:
It works with Nook color and CM7 nightly.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/571944/ot-digital-out-on-android-phone/15
My Fiio E17 is arriving within the next days - I would be very happy if this will work. If not, it could be a reason to change the phone - or buy a Nook..
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Hi.
I'm very interested to see if this works for you. Not only the amp but also the dac. I'm planning on getting the Fiio E17 too and this would be a major boost if it worked.

I will, but it might take a bit of time. First of all we need a kernel that supports the function, which seems more promising now apparently. But I will report as soon as possible.

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I will, but it might take a bit of time. First of all we need a kernel that supports the function, which seems more promising now apparently. But I will report as soon as possible.
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I've read that CM7 supported it. Or is that function not implemented for the DHD in CM7?

I thought the same, but it is a kernel issue, and if you follow the link in one of the first mails in this thread you can see how things were - until now where work is going on about a new kernel. OTG is not working yet, apparently, and it does not have first priority, but still, the foresight is much better than before..

Mayx I refresh that request?
Does anyone know of any rom/kernel? Preferrably 4.1....could someone with more knowledge shed some light on the issue why this seems to be such a problem? I'm sure there is a good reason I just like to understand it a bit better
It has been done with an old kernel so the device should be capable...and Android itself supports it, so the system should be capable as well.

I've mentioned this topic to certain developers but it seems no devs are particularity interested in getting this working on the DHD.

svhd rom support usb host mod with Mouse/Keyboard/Gamepad/Storage Device
[GUIDE]How To Use USB HOST
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4#post39500954

not only svhd host mode working... i tried on PACMAN rom and its working when kernel tuner is downloaded from play store.. it is working the same way like on svhd.. still i dont know how it works with hdd's

gerciolisz said:
not only svhd host mode working... i tried on PACMAN rom and its working when kernel tuner is downloaded from play store.. it is working the same way like on svhd.. still i dont know how it works with hdd's
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PACMAN rom host mode work for you ??
i try to connect to host mode in svhd rom but i can't if you can help me so do it please !!!
this is my connectors picture :fingers-crossed:
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Yep it worked but usb mass storage dont work on pc now XD i dwnloaded kernel tuner and did the same operation like on svhd..
It seems i have little bit other connection. I have OTG cable connected to usb hub with 4 inputs to first i've plugged mouse to second
Connected charger but i had to buy a usb cable which have 2 same male plugs, one goes to charger one to hub.
Ill post photo later

Interesting, hear about this a while back but never expected it to work so soon. The adapter makes sense, DHD can't deliver that power to a external device