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Handsfree functionality: Do I still need a carkit?

Assuming I have my TP2 in a dash holder like this one from Brodit (for navigation purposes):
Since one of the main features of the TP2 is its handsfree functionality, I was wondering, will I still need a (bluetooth) carkit? Has anybody tried using the TP2 handsfree while driving? Could you understand the other person and, more important, could the other person hear you?

This car holder has only a power supply. But there is no hands free function available. For this reason you need a bluetooth headset / carkit.

Handsfree while driving is good. I heard other people loud and clear and they do no not notice any echo (I asked later) and can understand me.
It works while using navigation software too.
So I won't use any extra hardware!

I've stopped using my bluetooth handsfree. The built-in handsfree is just as good, if not better - both for me and for the person I'm speaking to.

What you need and what might be the best solution could be two differnet things.
I'd recommend investing in a copy of Microsoft Voice Command, press one button and you can tell the phone to dial a number or any of your contacts, it saves trying to navigate the phone menus at the same time as navigating the roads
Gordon

GordonTGopher said:
What you need and what might be the best solution could be two differnet things.
I'd recommend investing in a copy of Microsoft Voice Command, press one button and you can tell the phone to dial a number or any of your contacts, it saves trying to navigate the phone menus at the same time as navigating the roads
Gordon
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If only you could dial from the Bluetooth device!

Bright.Light said:
Handsfree while driving is good. I heard other people loud and clear and they do no not notice any echo (I asked later) and can understand me.
It works while using navigation software too.
So I won't use any extra hardware!
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jmak said:
I've stopped using my bluetooth handsfree. The built-in handsfree is just as good, if not better - both for me and for the person I'm speaking to.
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@Bright.Light and jmak:
Thanks for this good news! This gives me the info to at least try it without a carkit and buy the Rhodium and the Brodit powered holder.

[Q] About Voice Commands..

This may be a stupid question but on previous Android devices with the dedicated search key, I could just press and hold the search key to access voice commands.
How do I do that with my One X?

freebirds87 said:
This may be a stupid question but on previous Android devices with the dedicated search key, I could just press and hold the search key to access voice commands.
How do I do that with my One X?
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You can't. Just need to have a search widget on your screen.
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the widget for google search has a microphone icon on the right. if you just press that, you will go to voice. by the way, on my phone this works better for having the phone call someone in my contacts list than going to the phone function itself and trying to use the embedded voice command icon there.

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You can't. Just need to have a search widget on your screen.
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Thank you for the answer. This is unfortunate because I enjoyed the convience of being able to use the dedicated search key just for the voice commands. Ugh...

Me too I found cyberon voice commander works great for me. I didn't like any others because of shoddy voice recognition, most others don't close themselves after being used and don't work with pressing a hardware button on Bluetooth headset.
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may i ask which bluetooth headset you are using? i'm very interested in a good headset that will function with voice commands/dialing.

1earful said:
may i ask which bluetooth headset you are using? i'm very interested in a good headset that will function with voice commands/dialing.
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I use the Bose bt2. For a mono headset it has great clarity and sound quality for a2dp. Also really good connection, comfortable and decent bat life.
I've owned the plantronics975, all the jawbones, blueant q2, bang and olufsen Bluetooth. I like the Bose the best.
Edit: good sound quality for the ERA the only complaints I would get often is I sounded muffled/in a tunnel, I think the noise assassin is too intrusive. But, If you turn it off its worse as all background noise is heard. It worked well with caller id (I use announcify) and voice dialing.
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i hit the thank you button. i'm not ready to jump to bose yet, as i have a jawbone era coming in which i am hoping will work well with caller id and voice dialing. but i will definitely keep the bose in mind for further research. thanks again.

second rate phone
Help please.
Been an android fan for years and rooted a fair few devices but still not 100% clear sometimes.
I need help with my One X - I just lost my company iphone and am really missing the voice control. I used my headset all the time to control the phone to do most things. On the 1X I can't get any of the apps to work except Cyberon voice commander and I am really sick of it.
Can anyone recommend a fix to get the other apps to work or suggest and app that does work because voice commander is falling behind and I am going to take the One X back if I can't even make a phone call using handsfree! You can stuff your quad core up your a55 if you can't even make a simple voice dial work!
Yes cyberon works but why only that one? Why not vlingo or any of the other assistants? This is the sort of things that makes people stick with apple and because I love android it pisses me off even more.
Please say there is a reason.
All I want to do is 'long press' my headset button and have it do something useful!
Thanks in advance for your help

Activating voice commands via BlueTooth with ICS?

Hey all,
I have a Sena SMH-10 Motorcycle bluetooth headset. Its always paired up and worked with my SGSII perfectly. All calls, music and even voice commands functioned relatively well. Normally, I'd press the "call" button on my Sena, and it would activate the Samsung voice commands with a "what would you like to do?" voice prompt.
Now that I've upgraded to ICS (unrooted, stock SGSII), the call button on the Sena doesnt activate the voice command. The phone pairs up fine, calls, music and notifications come through the headset. But as you know, riding a motorcycle doesnt really allow me to open apps or dial manually on the road!
Anyone have any ideas? Some setting in BT or Voice that I missed?

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Hey all,
I have a Sena SMH-10 Motorcycle bluetooth headset. Its always paired up and worked with my SGSII perfectly. All calls, music and even voice commands functioned relatively well. Normally, I'd press the "call" button on my Sena, and it would activate the Samsung voice commands with a "what would you like to do?" voice prompt.
Now that I've upgraded to ICS (unrooted, stock SGSII), the call button on the Sena doesnt activate the voice command. The phone pairs up fine, calls, music and notifications come through the headset. But as you know, riding a motorcycle doesnt really allow me to open apps or dial manually on the road!
Anyone have any ideas? Some setting in BT or Voice that I missed?
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I had big problems with that too...it won't light the screen or ask me what i want unless the screen was unlocked...it worked fine on gb...I'm using cyberon now...
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It seemed that ICS broke many features that we were all used to. I'm the same way with the blue tooth headset. I purchased a top-of-the-line Blue Ant G2. worked perfectly on GB, but not on ICS.
I'm about to give up and Odin back to GB before ICS and the maintenance update, when everything worked like it suppose to.
Yeah yeah yeah, ill be giving up the smooth transitions. but ill be getting back my scrolling wall paper, working BT, and a bunch more.
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I'm having the same problem. I really hope it gets fixed soon! The only function that works is the long press on the BT handsfree (Motorola T505) which redials the last number.
Is this issue also present in CM9?

I'm using stock ICS. It seems to work okay with my BlueAnt. I activate the phone voice command by saying "phone commands" to my BlueAnt.
However, I don't have a headset, I have the BlueAnt S4 handsfree for my car. Haven't finished rebuilding my motorcycle, so haven't bought the headset. Do the headsets have the capability for voice commands? If so, maybe try that and see if it works.
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Android Revolution said:
I'm using stock ICS. It seems to work okay with my BlueAnt. I activate the phone voice command by saying "phone commands" to my BlueAnt.
However, I don't have a headset, I have the BlueAnt S4 handsfree for my car. Haven't finished rebuilding my motorcycle, so haven't bought the headset. Do the headsets have the capability for voice commands? If so, maybe try that and see if it works.
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Which voice command do you use on the phone, the stock Google one or vLingo? How is your BT/voice command activation setup? Can you get it to take commands when it's locked (my biggest problem)?
I'm interested to see if, perhaps, it's just a matter of settings.

MC helmet BT
I thought mine wasnt working at all.... one push of the button on my helmet and music would stop.... then I tryed it stopped and found that the press of the button would bring up the Voice talk app and if I said Hi Gallexy it would ask what I wantwed to do but the volume would be so low that I wasnt hearing it.... havnt got an answer on what to do yet,,, still working on it...
Thats my two cents

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I thought mine wasnt working at all.... one push of the button on my helmet and music would stop.... then I tryed it stopped and found that the press of the button would bring up the Voice talk app and if I said Hi Gallexy it would ask what I wantwed to do but the volume would be so low that I wasnt hearing it.... havnt got an answer on what to do yet,,, still working on it...
Thats my two cents
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I went and bought cyberon voice commander and it works perfectly...but it's not cheap 5.99...but it works
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Using Bluetooth car kit for Google Now voice actions, should this be possible?

I love Android, but very often I also hate it. Recently I was interested in getting this Bluetooth receiver for my car. The ideal scenario would be to be able to make calls, play songs, and navigate to an address by only pressing the button on this device on my dash and speaking, not touching the phone at all. Sounds great, right? And isn't this what Google Now and its voice actions are all about?
Well, seeing what a sorry state Bluetooth is in on my GNex, I think a device like this would be just about worthless. I have experienced no less than FIVE separate issues in attempting to get this scenario to work with the regular Bluetooth headset I currently own.
1) Bluetooth device disconnects every time I turn screen off. So when I turn screen back on, I have to re-pair the device.
2) The basic functionality of using Google voice actions over Bluetooth at all only works once. After that, it beeps, and then reverts to the handset mic and speaker. If you force stop Google Search, it will work again, but only once.
3) Pressing the button on the Bluetooth device activates old-school voice dialing instead of Google Now voice search. What's the point of this now that Google Now exists? I believe I have fixed this with the Bluetooth Launch app, but we'll have to see if it keeps working.
4) Music quality sucks, as we all know.
5) Google Now voice actions themselves are spotty. Sometimes advertised voice actions just result in regular searches instead. Sometimes it keeps listening for more input even though I've stopped talking, a force stop is required to fix this.
About the only thing that does work over Bluetooth is just regular calls that you initiate via the phone.
Which of the above issues do you experience, and can you share any workarounds? At this point, I honestly don't know what justification Google could give me to use this junk over an iPhone. I seriously believe they do not test anything, and do not care at all about their customers' experiences.

I have my Gnexus running 4.1.2 connected directly to my car's Bluetooth. I use it mostly for music and GPS, then calls sometimes, but rarely Google Now.
1) Doesn't happen to me ever. My phone stays connected until I turn the engine off and pull the key out of the ignition. I heard Bluetooth connection issues started with 4.2, hence why I haven't updated.
2) Not sure about this one. Google Now has always been spotty in my car (takes over 30 seconds to start up) and I'm not sure if it's because of Bluetooth or T-Mobile.
3) I think that's normal. Pushing the call button on my car's steering wheel activates my car's voice recognition system, not the phone's.
4) I use BT most often for music via Pandora and it sounds sounds fine to me. Occasionally there is a subtle skip, which I attribute to the wireless nature of Bluetooth. I would say the quality is 90% compared to wired.
5) Agreed. That seems unrelated to Bluetooth though.
I don't think there is a Bluetooth command for starting Google Now. Don't forget Bluetooth is a generic technology that is supposed to work with all phones, not just Android ones. I used to connect a Sony Ericsson phone for calls.
Except for accepting incoming calls and changing tracks/volume, I still have to initiate most actions by touching my phone. It sucks. Let me know if you find a good solution.
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Yeah, it seems at least some of these issues (the disconnecting, music quality) started in 4.2. #3 might be "normal", but is definitely not how it should be. You mention Bluetooth is a generic technology - this is true, but there doesn't need to be a special command for Google Now, the phone can just choose to respond however it wants to the standard "call" button/command. For example, with an iPhone, pressing the button on the Bluetooth device will activate Siri. Then you can speak any command or query you wish. There's no reason Android couldn't activate Google Now voice search in the same way, instead of the voice dialer.
I've been doing things same as you, doing everything via the phone except for answering calls or redialing the last number. I finally realized how useful voice commands could be when able to be summoned via Bluetooth. A couple simple updates to the Google Search app, and an improved Bluetooth situation in 4.3 could easily clear all this up. But after the many mistakes they've made, I'm not exactly holding out hope.

The newest Google search has an option to listen over Bluetooth in settings not sure what it does.
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tshelby73 said:
The newest Google search has an option to listen over Bluetooth in settings not sure what it does.
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Yeah....all the issues I stated above are with that option checked.

xdp said:
Yeah, it seems at least some of these issues (the disconnecting, music quality) started in 4.2. #3 might be "normal", but is definitely not how it should be. You mention Bluetooth is a generic technology - this is true, but there doesn't need to be a special command for Google Now, the phone can just choose to respond however it wants to the standard "call" button/command. For example, with an iPhone, pressing the button on the Bluetooth device will activate Siri. Then you can speak any command or query you wish. There's no reason Android couldn't activate Google Now voice search in the same way, instead of the voice dialer.
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Ah yeah, that's different then. None of the buttons on my car will activate any sort of voice recognition on my phone, because of the voice system in the car itself. Which sucks, because although it may have been advanced in 2009, smartphone voice tech has surpassed it by leaps and bounds, whereas my car software will never get updated.
So I think there's a better chance for an update to make this work for your setup than mine.
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tshelby73 said:
The newest Google search has an option to listen over Bluetooth in settings not sure what it does.
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Thanks for the tip!
I also added a Google now voice command short cut to my lock screen and launcher, so when I'm in the car I can quickly (hopefully) say a command.
Kind of sucks still that the call button doesn't do this, even my old school slider Nokia launched voice commands over Bluetooth.
LOL

I use mine and will do voice commands by pressing button. It will not search though just make calls. On CM based ROM'si have to freeze the voice dialer the ROM comes with or the cm dialer is default. I don't have the listen over Bluetooth checked. Maybe that checked would give me search feature using button.
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annoying issue with navigation and Bluetooth audio

Why is there no way to change the audio path? When I'm navigating, I like to hear the voice from my phone. As long as my moto 360 is connected to my phone, the audio is routed to the watch which has no speaker so I hear nothing. This is kinda ridiculous to me that I can't change this like on other Bluetooth devices. I have to disconnect my watch to navigate bc of it.
Am I missing something or can this be fixed in a future update?
EDIT: Fixed! This issue has been fixed by someone. Maybe it was an update to Google maps? I used navigation yesterday and audio came through my phone as all as notifications on my watch. Very cool!

You don't get a voice but should feel a vibration when turn approaches.
Ian B

Mr Ian B said:
You don't get a voice but should feel a vibration when turn approaches.
Ian B
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Yeah I do, I just prefer to hear the voice and how many lanes turn and all that additional information the voice gives. I can look at the phone and it will tell me but I just prefer the voice. I also found out it will still work if I connect to my car stereo and the audio will come out of the stereo while it does the directions on the watch, so that's my best work around at the moment

Had the same issue yesterday. It was a major disappointment to say the least. Totally disconnected it from the phone which makes the watch almost useless to me
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So, while navigating there's no turn-by-turn voice?
That's not good!

Mr Ian B said:
You don't get a voice but should feel a vibration when turn approaches.
Ian B
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I get voice too through my car stereo and on my phone along with the vibrations on my watch.

johnomaz said:
I get voice too through my car stereo and on my phone along with the vibrations on my watch.
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Did you also got voice through the stereo with no 360?...
Let's say, only with navigation from your cell...
Thanks...

SanD-82 said:
Did you also got voice through the stereo with no 360?...
Let's say, only with navigation from your cell...
Thanks...
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Yeah you will

johnomaz said:
I get voice too through my car stereo and on my phone along with the vibrations on my watch.
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Yeah me too in my gf's car but my car doesn't have Bluetooth so I have to completely disconnect from my watch if I want voice when navigating in my car

SanD-82 said:
Did you also got voice through the stereo with no 360?...
Let's say, only with navigation from your cell...
Thanks...
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Ya, I use navigation all the time when I'm out of my normal areas of driving. Always comes through my car stereo via bluetooth.

To get the voice to come through on the phone make sure Car Mode is disabled. If it is enabled it will try and send audio through whatever bluetooth connection it has. ...I think

I don't have my watch yet, but try going to the bluetooth settings on the phone and select the watch. If you have a "Media audio" profile with a check mark, try unchecking that. That should reroute that audio to the phone.
Will know for sure Tuesday when I get my 360!

illb456 said:
I don't have my watch yet, but try going to the bluetooth settings on the phone and select the watch. If you have a "Media audio" profile with a check mark, try unchecking that. That should reroute that audio to the phone.
Will know for sure Tuesday when I get my 360!
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There are no options like this for the moto 360

Raceit said:
To get the voice to come through on the phone make sure Car Mode is disabled. If it is enabled it will try and send audio through whatever bluetooth connection it has. ...I think
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I've never used any sort of car mode

Hey guys, I dunno if someone important at moto or google saw this thread or its just complete coincidence but this issue appears to have been fixed! I used navigation yesterday and the voice came through on my phone as well as my watch buzzing me with the notifications as well! Very cool

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Did you also got voice through the stereo with no 360?...
Let's say, only with navigation from your cell...
Thanks...
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Of course. With music streaming, the music would get quiet and the nav would be loud. I've used nav on my phone for ages.