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Since I have subscribed to a lot of threads I also get a lot of notifications. That's great offcourse. But what's less great is that a lot of those messages only contains "Thank you very much"or less.
Example : Thank You
Don't misunderstand me. It is great you all thank the programmers for their work. But it doesn't add anything more to the thread nor the program.
So I like to propose to start a "Thank you" thread which I already started just now
If you like to thank somebody it can be posted in this thread. With every "Thank you" you can point to the specific thread with the url of the thread, pointing to the first message.
btw.Many programmers will also appriciate a donation as a "Thank You", I think.
Also to keep their work going
So would you now like to say "Thanks" to somebody?
Then put it in here
Well, thanks
Thank you, but I rather put my "thank you"s in the thread of the developer.
when people wana say thank you..they mean thankyou for
1>ur program
2>the things in this thread that solved my problem
3>the discussion made me feel i no somethin g bout my phone
4>thank you for being alive
so they must post it in the thread!!
not here..
then next time someone comes to the thread they see a thankyou
then they feel..hell lets search bfor posting a question cause someone got a answer!
so then they search and find their answer!!and the cycle continues!!
I don't think they *have* too.
As I said a before only "Thank you" doesn't add anything to the thread nor the program.And people who has subscribe to this thread get useless notifications.It clutters up the thread.So it is redunant in my opinion.
Something like "Thank you but I have this problem with your program" or "Thank you but I have this idea" or "Thank you can you add?"whatever" is something different.Others can participate to this. To a "Thank you"they can't.
Example
Like in my example you can ask yourself. Who is he thanking? The programmer? The one for replied before him? Somebody who gave a tip about the program or a link, WHO?
But offcourse have it like you want it. It was just an idea
well it is a real dilemma for people who are reading up a thread from scratch trying to find something ....and you get all the flaming, thanks and so many other remarks
there was a forum that fixed this by putting a Thank you button behind each entry in a thread .
So once you push it youll see a footer with "The following people wish to thank ..." and its lists each person.
im not sure if it can be done here .....oh mighty gods of XDA....is this possible ?
im not sure if i can type in the name of that forum here ...
Well, interesting idea, but isn't it easier to make "thank you" button? You just click that in chosen thread and it is done... DB space and bandwidth saved.
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Well, interesting idea, but isn't it easier to make "thank you" button? You just click that in chosen thread and it is done... DB space and bandwidth saved.
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Seems to me like a good idea, a "thank you"button. thanks TripleA
A thank you thread already has been placed before here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534413
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A thank you thread already has been placed before here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534413
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Right. But TripleA had a good idea, see the above. A different idea.
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Right. But TripleA had a good idea, see the above. A different idea.
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Theres is also another thread regarding the thank you button...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539440
+1 vote for it
orb3000 said:
Theres is also another thread regarding the thank you button...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539440
+1 vote for it
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It was posted today. TripleA's idea is from two days ago
Youre right mate
sorry
Anyway very good idea!
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Youre right mate
sorry
Anyway very good idea!
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That's ok. Right.
Comment removed.
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Posts removed -Enough of the thankyou's please
Ta
Rick
Some other forums add a kudos button to the person's avatar so that you can thank a specific person, and people are sort of graded by how much kudos they get, meaning how much good they've done to the community, how reliable, in a sense they are, etc...There is also the negative (boo!) button when people are unhappy with something.
All this have it's pros and cons, depending on how grown-up or how childish (abusive?) people can be at times. But there is no doubt that it saves time and space. And nothing stops people saying thanks in other ways as well.
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Some other forums add a kudos button to the person's avatar so that you can thank a specific person, and people are sort of graded by how much kudos they get, meaning how much good they've done to the community, how reliable, in a sense they are, etc...There is also the negative (boo!) button when people are unhappy with something.
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Every advantage has its disavantages
And nothing stops people saying thanks in other ways as well.
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No they won't. That's why this thread to try to come up with ideas so they do stop, and thank people on another way, like with a button. As you said. It saves space!
thank you button for vbulletin http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=122944
i button would be very good and i think the best solution
Advantage: Less Clutter on Thread.
Disadvantage: Less personal/threads drop down list faster.
To be honest i don't see saying thankyou as an issue, what's more of an issue is mountain size quotes and multiple same questions asked by uncompitent searchers or just plain lazziness
"So maybe the OP of the thread should have more controll over the thread being able to delete the redundant posts?"
Similar to "Thanks" button, please add "Unhelpful" or "Dislike" button
Some forums on here have grown out of control with nonsense and useless posts and it is too much and even unnecessary work sometimes, for mods to have to deal with. The thousands of users that read these posts daily are perfectly capable of judging these posts and should be able to + or - a post based on its usefulness. This +/- button could be attached to every post similar to the way the "Thanks" button is. It wouldn't require every post to be +'ed or -'ed, but usually the REALLY HELPFUL posts would be +'ed (similar to being thanked) and the real BS posts would be ranked down. Simple.
People who don't bother to read or search first before posting something are an annoyance for many in this community.. and posting stickies at the top of every page titled "PLEASE READ FIRST" or anything similar just doesn't work. Users then "flame" one another, and that doesn't help in correcting the problem either. Additionally, the mods shouldn't have to be monitoring posts like they would a kindergarten class.
Allowing users to simply rate posts with a +/- like on many other sites, would improve the visibility of helpful posts on this forum greatly, while allowing nonsense posts to be hidden. When a posts receives an overwhelming number of -'s as opposed to +'s, that post will be automatically hidden so that other users may ignore it. There is already a "Thanks" button to thank users for being helpful; I think it's unrealistic to not include a way to flag unhelpful posts as well since there are just as many of those. (These aren't always derogatory or negative posts that SHOULD be reported to mods, but instead just wasteful and nonsense posts that add nothing informative to a thread).
Yes, this is a community where we are all here to help each other. In reality though, some users just don't care about anything except what they're here for and end up cluttering the forums with questions that have been answered several times before, or posting in wrong sections, etc . Those posts should be able to be flagged or ranked down by us users (this can be limited to even junior/ senior members for those worried of abuse in such a system, which is really not a threat at all [I explain in a post further down]). Please consider this improvement.
Thoughts?
Love it.
TechReport.com does a similar thing, and if you get five downvotes the post isn't automatically displayed.
Would streamline the site immensely, although I have a sneaky feeling something along these lines may well be implemented in the future.
This would cause so many problems too... All it would take is a few pissed off kids to downrank a helpful/brutally honest/ROM post into oblivion.
I think the way it is is fine, Although I wish they had a "Report as Trolling" button so we could send those ****ers into space somewhere...
posts like this
Not at all. If other users see a post getting downranked and they think it shouldn't be, they can just + it and if the overall community thinks the post shouldn't be downranked, enough people will + it to unhide the post. You sound like you have no faith in the community to do something right. It is such a large community that it will take a large number of posters to downrank something. And the general consensus about the post will eventually trump inappropriate downranks. It's so simple but difficult to explain. Also, this wouldn't require every post to be ranked. It's just there as an option.
Check out some androidandme posts for example. It works wonderfully on there.
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This would cause so many problems too... All it would take is a few pissed off kids to downrank a helpful/brutally honest/ROM post into oblivion.
I think the way it is is fine, Although I wish they had a "Report as Trolling" button so we could send those ****ers into space somewhere...
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Good point Sidekick (Hi btw ) but I do think this would occur much less frequently than the opposite (ranking down trollers and threadcrappers, myself included )
Also, 'sensible users' could easily just rank it back up.
^^ Exactly. It's already a system in place on many sites, and it's obviously used because it works.
I'm in for this. We all know XDA has grown too fast for moderation to keep up. Let the users help out.
This is definitely a really good idea, it would bring up the quality of posts especially on the development related threads. +1 from me
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Some forums on here have grown out of control with nonsense and useless posts.
The issue of lazy people who don't bother to read or search before posting something annoys a lot of people in this community.. and posting stickies at the top of every page titled "PLEASE READ FIRST" or anything similar just doesn't work. Users flaming one another doesn't help in correcting the problem either. The mods also have enough on their hands to have to worry about monitoring and deleting and moving wrongfully placed posts.
So, in an effort to better the experience for everyone, why not allow users to simply rate posts with a +/- like on many other sites. When a posts receives an overwhelming number of negatives, that post will be automatically hidden (check androidandme.com for example).
I think this will be a more effective and simple way for the community to keep tabs on itself. There is already a "Thanks" button to thank users for helping one another. I think it's unrealistic to not include a way for users to rank down unhelpful posts as well. The report button just unnecessarily pushes more work onto the mods.
Yes, this is a community where we are all here to help each other. In reality though, some users just don't care about anything except what they're here for and add nothing positive to the community. Those posts should be able to be ranked down by us users.
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How about a [Solved Button]? For those Damn threads you read about a Million Replies to just to find out Help is No Longer Needed!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178716
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How about a [Solved Button]? For those Damn threads you read about a Million Replies to just to find out Help is No Longer Needed!
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There is actually another thread about this in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178716
Unksi said:
There is actually another thread about this in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178716
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I know... Sorry!
I actually Started the other thread!
Lol, just trying to Promote the Idea!
Yea.. I didn't think anyone would listen either :-! Oh, well. I tried.
Preach it! This system would be extremely helpful for everyone, especially since there is alot of cluttering going on.
Ehh.. I think writing an essay was enough for me. If people like this maybe they can just keep bumping it until it catches attention.
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Ehh.. I think writing an essay was enough for me. If people like this maybe they can just keep bumping it until it catches attention.
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I Hear that... I Feel the Same way as you do with my Idea! I actually thought I'd have a lot More comments than I have in my thread. But oh well... Lol!
meeeowww..
Potential for abuse = Huuuge...
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
Realistic threat of abuse = Non-existent
Again, I refer to a site like Yahoo that uses this in their comments section that sees multiple times the amount of traffic than does this site and.. EDIT - nevermind
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Realistic threat of abuse = Non-existent
Again, I refer to a site like Yahoo that uses this in their comments section that sees multiple times the amount of traffic than does this site and.. EDIT - nevermind
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First off, I apologise, I did not pay attention and therefore my last post was irrelevant, allow me to respond properly....
Also, I hope that you didnt decide to edit your post because you noticed I was a mod, contrary to popular belief, users DO NOT receive bans/infractions for speaking their minds
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People who don't bother to read or search first before posting something are an annoyance for many in this community.. and posting stickies at the top of every page titled "PLEASE READ FIRST" or anything similar just doesn't work. Users then "flame" one another, and that doesn't help in correcting the problem either. Additionally, the mods shouldn't have to be monitoring posts like they would a kindergarten class.
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Couldnt agree more....
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That is why allowing users to simply rate posts with a +/- like on many other sites, would improve the quality of posts on this forum greatly. When a posts receives an overwhelming number of negatives, that post will be automatically hidden so that other users are aware and may ignore it (check androidandme.com or any Yahoo news articles for examples). I think this will be a more effective and simple way for the community to keep tabs on itself. There is already a "Thanks" button to thank users for helping one another. I think it's unrealistic to not include a way for users to rank down unhelpful or even negative posts as well. It's like not wanting to acknowledge the fact that there are a lot of nonsense posts throughout the forums. And the report button just unnecessarily pushes more work onto the mods and the majority ignores it, so it's not effective.
Yes, this is a community where we are all here to help each other. In reality though, some users just don't care about anything except what they're here for and add nothing positive to the community, and end up cluttering the forums with questions that have been answered several times before, or posting in wrong sections, etc . Those posts should be able to be flagged or ranked down by the community. Please consider this improvement.
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Im not sure if this is possible with the version of VB that XDA uses. It probably is but then there is always the possibility that it may not work smoothly due to the existing amount of tweaks to the system that are already in place.
The problem you describe is due to the "gimme gimme gimme" mentality of the current userbase and we are currently taking steps to address this.
In the meantime please alert us to any such posts and we can remove duplicates and tag items as [SOLVED]. We dont mind doing it if people are willing to let us know that it needs to be done.
IISiDeK1CKII said:
This would cause so many problems too... All it would take is a few pissed off kids to downrank a helpful/brutally honest/ROM post into oblivion.
I think the way it is is fine, Although I wish they had a "Report as Trolling" button so we could send those ****ers into space somewhere...
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It could be an issue, there will always be a certain "fanboi" mentality that would be inclined to abuse such a system. Some of the developers can be quite blunt (and rightly so) when it comes to people asking dumbass questions in a thread, I would hate to see for threads to be tarnished with downvotes (even if it is just one) all because some asshat wasnt happy about receiving a public dressing down.
There is already a Report button... Use it, we dont like trolls, they will be promptly escorted off the premises.
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Not at all. If other users see a post getting downranked and they think it shouldn't be, they can just + it and if the overall community thinks the post shouldn't be downranked, enough people will + it to unhide the post. You sound like you have no faith in the community to do something right. It is such a large community that it will take a large number of posters to downrank something. And the general consensus about the post will eventually trump inappropriate downranks. It's so simple but difficult to explain. Also, this wouldn't require every post to be ranked. It's just there as an option.
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As much as I hate to say it, I have to agree with the bold part at the moment.
I think that too much of the current userbase just want the easy option and want it now.
I think that we would need to adress the issue of discipline and improving the content of posts before we could implement a system like this, we are currently doing this but it will take time.
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I'm in for this. We all know XDA has grown too fast for moderation to keep up. Let the users help out.
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If you want to help, drop us a PM when you see something that needs attention or use the report button.
I think its unfair to say that XDA has grown too fast for the mods to keep up, we have a highly dedicated and hard working team of many moderators who give up their free time to keep this place running. New moderator applications are being processed at the moment as well, so expect to see a few more jackbooted, goosestepping, uptight internet rent-a-cops strutting around sometime soon.
The problem lies not with the amount of users we have to deal with, it is the amount of stupidity and ignorance displayed by some (too many) of them.
I guess that is going to come off as a pretty negative post but I am not against such an idea, I just think there are more pressing matters to attend to first.
If you havent already done so I suggest you read the forum announcement by Svetius outlining the roadmap for the site.
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There is something really common on xda that make it annoying to read topics and create huge topics with tons or pages, it's the members useless posts.
Usually a dev post a new hack/rom/kernel etc...
And some member post to say thanks instead of using the thanks button
Others complain about something not working even if the OP said it wouldn't work
And then you have the members that answer to the one complaining that he has to learn to read but instead of having one member saying this there is always like 5 members doing it
So I'm requesting a down vote or something similar that would hide or delete the usless posts in a thread to make it smaller and easier to read and could help lighten the xda database
Thanks!
(just kidding)
This needs to be seriously considered by the mods - will make life better for all of us.
would be nice if goes to happen
that is a great idea.
i guess we can say thanks here
Not exactly what you are looking for, but we added an easy way to obscure posts by folk on your ignore list. So, if there are one or two posters in a thread that are generating lots of useless posts in your view, click their name and choose to add them to your ignore list.
The ability to minimize or in other ways hide post with less information (e.g. post of people saying thanks, or posts with questions which has been answered) is very useful, especially for threads with high activity, such as the cyanogen thread and ICS sdk thread in i9000.
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Not exactly what you are looking for, but we added an easy way to obscure posts by folk on your ignore list. So, if there are one or two posters in a thread that are generating lots of useless posts in your view, click their name and choose to add them to your ignore list.
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Are you thinking about implementing the idea or not yet ?
exadeci said:
So I'm requesting a down vote or something similar that would hide or delete the usless posts in a thread to make it smaller and easier to read and could help lighten the xda database
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That's a really nice idea! The down voted posts does not have to be deleted but the users can choose if they would see them.
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exadeci said:
Are you thinking about implementing the idea or not yet ?
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This is already done. Click someone's username and see it
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This is already done. Click someone's username and see it
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Ignoring an user for some posts will make us miss all the good ones he might post and having to ignore half of the posters on a topic doesn't seems to be the best
While having the possibility to vote to hide/delete would be better
Could we have a straight answer ?!
0 no, maybe it will happen...
Mods do something
This needs to happen. It would make XDA a way better place. Everyone needs to put a link to this thread in their sig like I did....we need more attention in this thread so that this idea gets pushed to the top of the list.
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This needs to happen. It would make XDA a way better place. Everyone needs to put a link to this thread in their sig like I did....we need more attention in this thread so that this idea gets pushed to the top of the list.
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I'm 50/50 about the idea. I can see the benefit, but I can also see it being abused. Either way, your enthusiasm doesn't change the fact that no-one has posted here for over 3 months. I'm guessing that there's not too much interest in it.
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This needs to happen. It would make XDA a way better place. Everyone needs to put a link to this thread in their sig like I did....we need more attention in this thread so that this idea gets pushed to the top of the list.
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The admins are aware of the request.
Whether 1 or 1000000 people request it makes no difference. If it's doable and beneficial then it may well happen....
Sit tight....
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I'm 50/50 about the idea. I can see the benefit, but I can also see it being abused. Either way, your enthusiasm doesn't change the fact that no-one has posted here for over 3 months. I'm guessing that there's not too much interest in it.
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Jee, I sure would give it more than a few hours before making a comment like that. I am just one person trying to bring recognition to an awesome feature request that seems to have been buried and lost.
If you have something to add besides your negativity, feel free.
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The admins are aware of the request.
Whether 1 or 1000000 people request it makes no difference. If it's doable and beneficial then it may well happen....
Sit tight....
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I appreciate the response. I figured there was no harm in making this feature request more visible to the community, but you have pointed out that this does not matter. Apologies. I'll keep my fingers crossed for this feature to be implemented in the future.
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Jee, I sure would give it more than a few hours before making a comment like that. I am just one person trying to bring recognition to an awesome feature request that seems to have been buried and lost.
If you have something to add besides your negativity, feel free.
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Did you read my post in an angry voice or something? I meant no disrespect - I was just giving my opinion and then saying it didn't look like a popular idea.
maybe add option to mark topic as bloated
and the user or the modder will hide/vote those bloated posts
Hi to all XDA members,
firstly just wanna thank you guys for this great forum. without it, well my phone will be simply be a brick.
just wanted to highlight that when i read through threads and post, i see guys posting all kinds of useless stuff, or even wrong info and REQUEST for thanks...some post dangerous stuff which could end up in bricking a phone..some actually will reply a post by saying thank me if my post helped you. example below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27310617&postcount=2621
i just thought if we could add a dislike or no thanks button or something to that effect to have better control of quality on post. so that members will be careful with all this. and so taht threads dont become uneccesarily spamed with hundreds of pages of reading only to have low quality posts.
thanks guys!! thanks for everything !
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Hi to all XDA members,
firstly just wanna thank you guys for this great forum. without it, well my phone will be simply be a brick.
just wanted to highlight that when i read through threads and post, i see guys posting all kinds of useless stuff, or even wrong info and REQUEST for thanks...some post dangerous stuff which could end up in bricking a phone..some actually will reply a post by saying thank me if my post helped you. example below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27310617&postcount=2621
i just thought if we could add a dislike or no thanks button or something to that effect to have better control of quality on post. so that members will be careful with all this. and so taht threads dont become uneccesarily spamed with hundreds of pages of reading only to have low quality posts.
thanks guys!! thanks for everything !
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In cases such as the example you gave, as long as the guy posting 'hit thanks' has actually helped the OP, I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed. I don't do that myself, but there's a reason they introduced the thanks button into these forums, so that threads weren't cluttered up by people posting 'thanks' and people really don't use the thanks button enough. IMO if you are on XDA pretty much every day, at least just browsing through your favourite ROMs and checking for updates, you should really be using all of your thanks every day.
As for the dislike button idea, I think I've read that they are testing a thumbs up/thumbs down button, and they had certainly implemented a beta in the GNex forums at some point.
hi nigel,
yup you are right. ppl should use it more often. many tend to post thanks instead of hitting the button. i 100% agree we need to use it.
its the other post that are not useful or even accurate that is posted needs to also be addressed.
thanks for sharing about the thumb down option. this will be great..
I think it is a good idea but I don't know how will it work...
Look, the devs put a lot of their time at developing their roms, I imagine some stupids to hit a dislike button just because they prefer another rom.....do you see? Do the devs have to carry negative "results" just because some are @#$%$#@@#
In the other hand, it is true,maybe due to so many members ,that there are so many useless posts in usefull threads, and that's a big problem.
If that would decrease the number of them(useless posts), I surely support it!!!
I really like to see members who want to make that community better.thanks for sharing your suggestion.
Sent from my X8 using xda premium
Hmmm you are right..ive seen some guys that have beef with developers here, and they might use that to give them bad rep just as an sabotage.
its going to be difficult indeed. but now that i think about, its easier to deal with annoying post, rather than idiots pissing off real developers who are contributing to the community.
im not sure if the trade off is going worth it. ive seen developers having to deal with the stupidest of questions and the laziness of readers everyday and i feel so bad for them. i always try to help answer simple stuff that i know from reading. I started this thread in hopes to help them, but it might just backfire.
Am I the only one who thinks the whole thanks system on this site is just a massive popularity contest, I routinely see massive bold signatures in every section 'If I helped, press the thanks button' - yeah, I would have done before I read that, douche.
Sorry, it annoys me because I just don't understand what it's meant to prove or why people are allowed to 'beg' for thanks. If somebody makes a useful contribution, sure, give them some credit if they helped out... But people who also reply asking for thanks if they post a response to a question just annoy me. You'll be given it if you deserve it,
Generally only new users have large sigs with 'press thanks if I helped' in them. Most people who've been here a while know that thanks mean nothing and don't bother with that stuff. There's not much you can really do about it I guess.
You are right the whole obssesion for the thanks meter is disturbing, but look who is begging all the time for thanks!, i don't see any serious developer even care about thanks. In the other hand this make people making helpful posts and helping people even if they do it just for thanks.
'If I helped, press the thanks button'
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Everybody sees this message at least 4 times when visiting xda.The best thing to do is to ignore it
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You are right the whole obssesion for the thanks meter is disturbing, but look who is begging all the time for thanks!, i don't see any serious developer even care about thanks. In the other hand this make people making helpful posts and helping people even if they do it just for thanks.
Everybody sees this message at least 4 times when visiting xda.The best thing to do is to ignore it
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Yes Friend U Are Right ......
Actually, to be a tad unintuitive, it can help you know WHO to listen to...
It shows you who cares about thanks more than anything else, and thus who to ignore and sneer at
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Actually, to be a tad unintuitive, it can help you know WHO to listen to...
It shows you who cares about thanks more than anything else, and thus who to ignore and sneer at
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And troll and flame at too
If I may.
As one who is older I find the begging thanx the online version of panhandling.
I agree the thanks counter means little in most cases.
Just another meaningless badge.
I've always wondered also why some have the "donate" button active when they have contributed nothing.
It takes a second to thank a developer who assisted you. No biggie. The open source community are extremely helpful. Plus they do this for free. Get over yourself and thank a developer.
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dmazr said:
It takes a second to thank a developer who assisted you. No biggie. The open source community are extremely helpful. Plus they do this for free. Get over yourself and thank a developer.
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You didn't read or perhaps aren't understanding the original post.
OP is stating that "begging for thanks" in a signature is irritating.
The OP says giving thanks if deserved is certainly appropriate.