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Anyone use this? How is the luck?
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I use the paid version and could not be happier. I am running CM7 with a 2150 battery. Before I got JD I could barely go 5 hours on a charge. Now I can easily go 36 hours
what does it do exactly?
it is a great app... it regulates all of your connections in which if you were to use your wifi, then turn off your screen, juice defender will turn it off, but it will turn it back on when you unlock your phone... its great, highly recommend
It's a neat idea in theory but if you go with the free version it really sucks for trying to stream internet radio like sirius or Pandora.....when the screen is off it shuts off your data connection so radio apps stop playing... just a heads up
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I pretty much double my battery life with this app. It's the best.
Does anyone have any guides to a good set-up for Juice Defender?
I've found a few features I'm sure would help, but I'm also sure there are people who have better combinations of set-ups than I could ever come up with.
Yeah I have the full version but I'm wary of turning off data most times
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I have the paid version and I definetly notice a difference with and without the app. The auto on/off wifi based on location without the use of GPS is a really nice feature imo.
I've never tried it, if it turns off data with the screen off wouldn't that be bad for Google Voice? I use it for all calls & texts.
Its a great app, you have to get the paid version though. There's so many features it's a little overwhelming lol According to the app itself I get about 1.86 times my normal amount, which turns out to be around 15-24 hours depending on usage. It is a pain to figure out the settings from streaming radio apps though.
Give chainfires superpower a try. It works better then jd for me.
I propose a toast to the 21st century.
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I have done everything imaginable to improve battery life and my battery monitor shows that 93% of my battery is taken up by my screen. I always thought this was a good thing as it means my system isnt raping my battery.
Im using syndicate 1.2 and i have everything disabled drm/sns/sys update etc etc.
I just dont understand how my battery gets drained so quick. Honestly with regular usage (no games...just browsing and news) on a regular battery it maybe will last 6-7 hours. Doesn't really make alot of sense to me. Was hoping I could narrow down specifically what may be causing it.
Im using beautiful widgets (static location, switcher pro widget, calwidget and thats seriously it with launcher pro. I should be getting great battery life
try spare parts from the market.
hm good suggestion i didnt know it had that feature lol or i just havent opened the program in so long. I removed pandora/winamp/shazam widgets from my phone to see how that makes a difference.
quick question if you know...i know gps isnt supposed to use battery unless a program is accessing it but i hear people say to turn it off all the time. I have seek droid installed as well as lookout and I'd like to keep gps on but if its draining battery just by being 'on' without being used i'll leave it off.
Yeah, widgits will wipe out your battery. Especially if they are constantly updating....
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sceptor said:
quick question if you know...i know gps isnt supposed to use battery unless a program is accessing it but i hear people say to turn it off all the time. I have seek droid installed as well as lookout and I'd like to keep gps on but if its draining battery just by being 'on' without being used i'll leave it off.
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Or, you can pay for Titanium Pro or Bloat Freezer And freeze apps that run even when not in use like Maps,Poweramp,Root Tools, there are lots that do that I bought Bloat Freezer and found out even Google+ runs when not in use. I had like 16 running unknown to me. Launcher Pro was and I use Zeam....
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I have launcher pro and I don't think I can get around its usage I just don't get how the programs are raping my battery while not being used. Like pandora or winamp widget shouldt be doing a single thing unless I click them. Same for shazam etc. I want to have access to them via widget but have them frozen if not being used
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sceptor said:
I have launcher pro and I don't think I can get around its usage I just don't get how the programs are raping my battery while not being used. Like pandora or winamp widget shouldt be doing a single thing unless I click them. Same for shazam etc. I want to have access to them via widget but have them frozen if not being used
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You can't have your cake and eat it too. The best thing I can recommend is to put app shortcuts on your home screen, you can afford 1 more tap but you can't magically add more battery.
Also turn down your screen brightness. The display is the biggest drain on your battery than anything else. I can literally watch the percentages click away while browsing or reading through XDA. Screen off I use about 1% an hour. Reading XDA I can drop from the 90's to the 70's in 20 minutes.
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Also turn down your screen brightness. The display is the biggest drain on your battery than anything else. I can literally watch the percentages click away while browsing or reading through XDA. Screen off I use about 1% an hour. Reading XDA I can drop from the 90's to the 70's in 20 minutes.
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Yup and XDA runs in the background when not in use..kind of disappointing. I use this app more than any other these days
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Does anyone know if juice defender is actually a good app or no.
I use it on my phone but I never keep and data connections on anyway 3g 4g and wifi r always off unless I need to use them and then I turn them off when I'm done.
Since its "job" is kind of already done by me could it be a source of battery drain since its always running andin a way its for no reason.
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I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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Just think.its another app that wl run.just go to settings and customize that way.task killers waste battery and take up space.to maximize battery,research and try roms and kernels with different settings.im on miui rom,kernel v8,panache radio,and am at 38% battery,so with moderate use,its 38% after 10 hrs.gps off,with sporadic use of wifi.in otherwords,try different setups,but juice defender is up to u.
Myt4g on pacquiao type roids.miui.panache.
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I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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I'm using his hawk 2 rom right now lol.
I guess I will take it off and see if I notice and differences. Thanks
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Just think.its another app that wl run.just go to settings and customize that way.task killers waste battery and take up space.to maximize battery,research and try roms and kernels with different settings.im on miui rom,kernel v8,panache radio,and am at 38% battery,so with moderate use,its 38% after 10 hrs.gps off,with sporadic use of wifi.in otherwords,try different setups,but juice defender is up to u.
Myt4g on pacquiao type roids.miui.panache.
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That's what I was thinking.
So you also think that advance task killer isn't nesessary?
I use my phone a lot for almost everything so I try to keep my battery as high as possble but sometimes after just 3 or 4 hours I could be at 30% or lower.
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It is a very useful app, it will disable your radios when the screen is off to preserve battery life.
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It is a very useful app, it will disable your radios when the screen is off to preserve battery life.
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But I keep everything off already
And I usually have problems with my signal I'm not sure if it could be from it or not but I'm gonna just uninstall it for a whil and see if there's any differences.
Juice defender works well for me. At work I would have to put my phone on the charge at noon just playing mp3s. i get through the hole day now with 40% or better. i stream music for about 7.5 hours of the work day.
I've used Juice Defender since I got my Epic.
Though now that I'm running an EH17 ROM, and frozen DRM services, it's really not necessary for me anymore. Been off the charger for 11 hours with light use and it's still over 50% - on the rom it shipped with I was lucky to get 8 hours before it would shut off (with JD I'd get about 18 hours).
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Juice defender works well for me. At work I would have to put my phone on the charge at noon just playing mp3s. i get through the hole day now with 40% or better. i stream music for about 7.5 hours of the work day.
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It probably helps you cuz you have internet connection on and it turns it off when your phone is sleep. I keep all my internet connections off all the time so I don't think out does anything in my case.
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I've used Juice Defender since I got my Epic.
Though now that I'm running an EH17 ROM, and frozen DRM services, it's really not necessary for me anymore. Been off the charger for 11 hours with light use and it's still over 50% - on the rom it shipped with I was lucky to get 8 hours before it would shut off (with JD I'd get about 18 hours).
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I'm on eh17 too and I froze drm, sns, and system updates. So far I've been on my phone for an hour and a half and in still at 100% this is great. I installed juice defender last night.
I have been using juice defender for a few weeks and it helps my battery life a lot. It really depends on your usage. I am in roaming areas fairly often where my phone used to search for signal for a long time if I keep it on.
I installed Juice Defender the other day & my phone had issues right away. I unistalled within a couple of hours. However, afterwards I was unable to access my pictures or videos stored on the SD card. I know this app caused the issue because I was looking at some pics right before installing it & could not access them after installing. Luckily I ran accross a post in th PA CM10 thread that gave me the solution. For some reason the Juice Defender app placed a .nomedia file on the root of my SD card that was causing my issue. I deleated that file & the media scanner autmatically started running. Just like that I had pictures again.
I hope this helps anyone that may run across this issue.
It wasn't juice defender... if you have rom manager it was that... I use juice defender and have never had it place a .nomedia anywhere... the app doesn't place files anywhere...
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It wasn't juice defender... if you have rom manager it was that... I use juice defender and have never had it place a .nomedia anywhere... the app doesn't place files anywhere...
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Thanks for the correction.....I assumed that since installing JD was the only thing that had changed in the hour or two that the issue popped up, then that would be the cause.....I have had ROM Manager & GooManager for a while but have had no such issues before....I guess if it becomes an issue then I will have to loose those......I only use them to check for updates & always do manual downloads & installs for the ROM's anyway......
Thanks again & sorry for jumping to conclusions......
Your good... a recent update to rom manager messed some things up... if you check its all over the forums that everybodies media is disappearing... rom manager is to blame... but I believe it has been updated and fixed....
depends on the ROM
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I know one of our devs randomking doesn't like it, and since his roms are heavily battery life oriented it was enough for me to stop using it
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I find it depends on the ROM. I was using it for CM9 to help but I find the CM10 pre+kernel+nexus modem combo is doing me wonders. I also stopped using the facebook app, uninstalled facebook mgr as well and use Trillian to connect to FB, AIM, etc. also trying to get rid of this media server.. seems I dont need it. I expect more battery after that (if removing it is possible) because it's #3 on my batt draining list right now.
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I find it depends on the ROM. I was using it for CM9 to help but I find the CM10 pre+kernel+nexus modem combo is doing me wonders. I also stopped using the facebook app, uninstalled facebook mgr as well and use Trillian to connect to FB, AIM, etc. also trying to get rid of this media server.. seems I dont need it. I expect more battery after that (if removing it is possible) because it's #3 on my batt draining list right now.
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If you listen to music and such (I believe whether it be streaming or mp3s from the sd card) that's why you see media server so high... same for me, but I'm constantly sitening to music while surfing xda... and still pull off 16+ hours on cm10... I used to use juice defender, but found if your gonna turn of data and such, it saves more battery if you can remember to do it yourself instead of having an app use resources to do so.........
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I used to use apps like JD or advanced task killer to kill background processes and turn stuff off until I found out how Android handles programs in the background so I became less concerned.
If you're having issues with massive drain on battery life, make sure its not because of weak cell phone reception. If you're in an area with little to no signal your phone will use up extra juice to try to attain a connection so it'll drain your battery like 50% faster. Also make sure you have things you don't use turned off... like BT, GPS, WIFI, 4G anything thats optional.
Also consider the battery and whether or not it needs replacement. I got a defective battery and didn't know it until I had the ability to compare my phone to 4 other Epic 4g phones.
As much as I love my GS3, the battery life is pitiful, lately. Whenever I kill RAM, its always like "50-something applications killed" and I suspect this drains my battery. I go to app manager, and see tons of apps I have to force stop. The phone, while better than the Atrix and Photon I had, should have better battery life. Are there any task killer apps, which work like the Motorola built in one? Those were great. And I want to be connected always to the internet, I barely use wifi anyway except to download/update apps. Thats why I don't do "Juice Defender." Or anyone know if Jelly Bean will improve things?
Android is designed to keep apps stored in memory. killing them constantly is not how it was designed. I consistently got a full day of use out of my SG3 on stock rom with nothing managing the apps or juice defender. I actually got worse performance with JD on this device and my tablet but it did help my captivate.
all that said, I am now running intergalactic and the battery seems very good. Lots of good battery reports there. I do use auto killer memory to tweak the androind memory settings but it is not a task killer. I had over 2 hours of screen time and well over an hour of talk today.
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Android is designed to keep apps stored in memory. killing them constantly is not how it was designed. I consistently got a full day of use out of my SG3 on stock rom with nothing managing the apps or juice defender. I actually got worse performance with JD on this device and my tablet but it did help my captivate.
all that said, I am now running intergalactic and the battery seems very good. Lots of good battery reports there. I do use auto killer memory to tweak the androind memory settings but it is not a task killer. I had over 2 hours of screen time and well over an hour of talk today.
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I understand but on Motorola phones, I could set some apps, like games to b killed (after 2 mins), but leave others. That's what I wanna do on my gs3: why do games I haven't played in hours have an option to "force stop?"
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I understand but on Motorola phones, I could set some apps, like games to b killed (after 2 mins), but leave others. That's what I wanna do on my gs3: why do games I haven't played in hours have an option to "force stop?"
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If it is doesn't have an option to "force stop", it means it is NOT running, even in background, and has no background process associated with it. It has been prefetched and placed in memory, so it is readily available when you want it.
It takes the same amount of energy to hold something unused in ram as it does to hold nothing.
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have you tried a program like Better Battery stats to determine if you have any open wakelocks, etc.? you will find everything that is keeping your phone awake and chewing up your battery.
youmight also want to loook at a program called autostarts which you can prevent apps from opening on their own when certain system actions/conditions occur
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have you tried a program like Better Battery stats to determine if you have any open wakelocks, etc.? you will find everything that is keeping your phone awake and chewing up your battery.
youmight also want to loook at a program called autostarts which you can prevent apps from opening on their own when certain system actions/conditions occur
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Both, great suggestions, I recommend rom fool box pro, or lite. It has a auto start and receiver tweeter, file manager in it is awesome. Worth the money.
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Hi All,
I would like to invite your suggestions on best battery saving apps that you are using and how much difference does it make. Is it worth paying for apps juice defender ultimate or so http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/advanced/battery_full.png
I am on stock (rooted) 4.2.1 and stock rom.
Thanks!
Best battery saver is your self. These apps don't work any better than you doing the things it does manually. If its using resources which they all do to "save" you battery... Its not really saving you battery.. But in fact using it.
Some tips I suggest:
Turn sync off in everything. Go to data usage hit the menu button and uncheck auto sync data. Also you will want to open apps that have notifications and make sure they aren't syncing either.
Remove maps if you don't use it or disable it at the very least this will keep it from polling your location and wake locking the device.
Keep your running apps to a minimum and force stop any unnecessary apps.
Turn off Google backup services. Sometimes this will be pulling and pushing data wake locking the device and using battery. I've never found it necessary especially since I use TiBu anyways for my apps to restore. It never saves my WiFi password either.
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anx.sap said:
Hi All,
I would like to invite your suggestions on best battery saving apps that you are using and how much difference does it make. Is it worth paying for apps juice defender ultimate or so http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/advanced/battery_full.png
I am on stock (rooted) 4.2.1 and stock rom.
Thanks!
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for me best battery saver app is still juice defender ultimate. used it on my S3 once (2.5x longer batt life) but not on my N4.
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Best battery saver is your self. These apps don't work any better than you doing the things it does manually. If its using resources which they all do to "save" you battery... Its not really saving you battery.. But in fact using it.
Some tips I suggest:
Turn sync off in everything. Go to data usage hit the menu button and uncheck auto sync data. Also you will want to open apps that have notifications and make sure they aren't syncing either.
Remove maps if you don't use it or disable it at the very least this will keep it from polling your location and wake locking the device.
Keep your running apps to a minimum and force stop any unnecessary apps.
Turn off Google backup services. Sometimes this will be pulling and pushing data wake locking the device and using battery. I've never found it necessary especially since I use TiBu anyways for my apps to restore. It never saves my WiFi password either.
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This ^^^ battery "saving " apps usually do more harm than good. Uber, nice to see you awaiting your N4
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Keep your running apps to a minimum and force stop any unnecessary apps.
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This isn't particularly good advice in my opinion. Are there apps that do use battery power when you don't force close them? Yes, sure, but many don't. And those which do without a good reason.. try to find a replacement.
Force closing apps all the time especially on a device with lots of ram will mean that your device has to restart the app completely if you open it again, which takes time and energy.
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Also, turning off sync doesn't really help that much if you still use your apps often but instead refresh manually with the screen on, I'd expect. Of course everyone can decide for themselves, but one of the reasons I own a smartphone is because it can notify of an incoming email or something without me having to go to gmail.com manually. It all very much depends on what you want from your phone and how much you are willing to compromise. Using an App like Lux for example could also save you some battery depending on how bright you need your screen to be etc. There are so many variables to this.
Best battery saver is to not run crappy battery hogging apps like juice defender.
Turn on auto brightness, check your apps and make sure you are not syncing very often unless you need it. For most apps you can turn off auto sync and probably sync manually. I just turn on auto sync for handful of important apps which I open regularly.
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Manually turn down screen brightness, don't leave the Wifi or bluetooth on when you're not connected, make sure apps you install aren't keeping the phone awake. Not much else actually works in the real world.
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I get two and a half days from my Nexus 4 battery, I can thank Juice Defender Ultimate for a large part of that.
I could do all the tricks that Juice Defender does manually, but it would be a PITA and I'm sure I'd forget some of those tricks.
Better to pay a few quid, take a little time to set up Juice Defender, then sit back and enjoy your doubled battery life.
the best part of Juice Defender was turning off Wifi when not at home.. if you like this feature, search the playstore for 'Y5 Battery Saver'. It does the same thing, is simple and free..
Note: dont backup and restore it in titanium though. If you rebuild, install from the playstore. I have found it doesn't work right if restored
IMO if all you want is bt/wifi to toggle when you aren't home spend $5 on a few nfc stickers and stick one by your front door. You could also go with tasker.
As for battery life, francos kernel is giving me 2 days of battery (far more than I need) with wifi/bt on, whatever apps need to sync do so and I have brightness set to auto.
I found juice defender good for phones that are bloated with crapware and not rooted. It hurt battery life when i used it for phones with custom roms and kernels.
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I get two and a half days from my Nexus 4 battery, I can thank Juice Defender Ultimate for a large part of that.
I could do all the tricks that Juice Defender does manually, but it would be a PITA and I'm sure I'd forget some of those tricks.
Better to pay a few quid, take a little time to set up Juice Defender, then sit back and enjoy your doubled battery life.
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Can you post you juice defense settings. I can't even get 2 days from my nexus 4.
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Can you post you juice defense settings. I can't even get 2 days from my nexus 4.
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nvm
ÜBER™ said:
Best battery saver is your self. These apps don't work any better than you doing the things it does manually. If its using resources which they all do to "save" you battery... Its not really saving you battery.. But in fact using it.
Some tips I suggest:
Turn sync off in everything. Go to data usage hit the menu button and uncheck auto sync data. Also you will want to open apps that have notifications and make sure they aren't syncing either.
Remove maps if you don't use it or disable it at the very least this will keep it from polling your location and wake locking the device.
Keep your running apps to a minimum and force stop any unnecessary apps.
Turn off Google backup services. Sometimes this will be pulling and pushing data wake locking the device and using battery. I've never found it necessary especially since I use TiBu anyways for my apps to restore. It never saves my WiFi password either.
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Ya cripple your phone like this guy says lol
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After I turned 'Google location' and NFC off, this thing can easily last the day with average use. Before that it was just draining like crazy.
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I've had juice defender ultimate since my Nexus S days. I wouldn't be without it as I can't get my battery to last a full day without it. When it's fully configured correctly, it works fantastic. I especially like that I can configure wifi to turn on and off automatically in areas where I have a saved wifi. I can decide the interval I choose for syncing data, and there are many other features. I'm not going to be manually turning on and off functions all the time, all that does is create more screen on time and is a waste of my time.
Bottom line, for me juice defender ultimate works because I spent time configuring it properly for my usage.
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IMO if all you want is bt/wifi to toggle when you aren't home spend $5 on a few nfc stickers and stick one by your front door. You could also go with tasker.
As for battery life, francos kernel is giving me 2 days of battery (far more than I need) with wifi/bt on, whatever apps need to sync do so and I have brightness set to auto.
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What's the screen on time though?
I can easily get 2 days of battery if I don't use my phone at all.
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What's the screen on time though?
I can easily get 2 days of battery if I don't use my phone at all.
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1.5 hrs screen on, 1.5hrs on call...I got close to 6hrs screen on when I did a drain test.
And no, I wasn't getting 2 days out of the phone stock with the same usage, it was more like 12-18hrs.
I tried using Juice Defender on a different phone and all it did was make the phone buggy with problems with wifi connectivity and other minor irritations and I could never configure it in such a way that didn't give me problems.
Are you having trouble making it through the day on one charge? I don't think I could use my N4 that much if I tried, I sat in a doctor's office the other day for 2.5 hours listening to Pandora on a bluetooth headset while reading a book with the screen on and still made it until I turned in for the night. Perhaps it is the Trinity kernel or custom ROM I am running, I never ran my phone stock so I don't have anything to compare with. I guess some of you want to go longer than 24 hours but it would be a really bizarre situation for me to need to do that.
So I tried juice defender ultimate and it did significantly increased my battery life. I am now getting about 30 hours or more with my regular usage. Even right now I have 63% remaining battery with 1 hour screen time and 17 hours total run time, see screenshot for usage.
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