... I have neither the XDA1 or 2, I have the 2i (which is technically a different model, right?)... But there are many other forum users who have a totally different model oF XDA, specifically the smartphones or the later models, JasJar, the other one which is going on the market soon... Can't remember the name - just a small point of keeping the forum current really, has someone forgotten to add more choices of phone to the user profile page, or is it a limitation with the mod which is being used?
More curious than anything else...
Now that o2 are producing lots of new non-htc XDA phones, are you going to open up new forum areas to talk about these phones, or is this going to remain an htc only site?
The reason I ask is that a lot of info applies whatever the device manufacturer and the more devices the site coversthe more people that will contribute.
Great point. I support this fully
The XDA stealth is certainly an XDA, yet it is not on XDA developers... Also there has not been much contribution to the atom probably because it was made by quanta
Guys the way I see it this is a HTC forum, there are a lot of phones around but if we stay on one brand then we can provide top info, tools for that brand. You Might allready have seen that there are a few things that cross devices (The BA's country code flashhing error can be over ridden by the Magicans flashing tool)
If we cover all phones then we water down our strong points.
As for the atom, it was a mistake and by the time it was noticed we allready had threads going on.
(Needless to say it might change in the future)
I love XDA, I love the people here and I truly beleive there is no other place like it on the net.
I'm moving over to Android and I have already seen a few threads popping up around the subject on here.
My question is will the XDA admin be looking at extending support to other Android phones than the G1 including those made by other OEMs like Samsung and will the site carry on supporting those in the same way Winmo has been.
I dont believe Android is going any where and I would like to see the site expand to embrace it and continue been the number on place to use your phone properly as well as trying out new stuff.
PS Admin - feel free to change the title if you want.
Terran
The general rule on this site is that devices can only have a forum if manufactured by HTC.
Requests for Non-HTC Windows Mobile device forums have not been accepted by the admins, so I think it is safe to assume that Non-HTC Android device forums will also, not be created.
Thanks
Dave
Sort General Forum by OS?
Can I pose a suggestion here? I know that the site is for HTC devices and the devices now come in different OS flavours. Should there be a separation on the subforuns (fora?) by OS now? There are more threads for the Android (and it is gonna be big soon!) coming up and it is getting even more confusing to sift through the posts even more so on the General area and it would be easier for everybody to identify what they want and how to help. No offence here but some other sites already sort things by OS and it looks much neater the way they do.
Cheers! All the best.
DaveShaw said:
The general rule on this site is that devices can only have a forum if manufactured by HTC.
Requests for Non-HTC Windows Mobile device forums have not been accepted by the admins, so I think it is safe to assume that Non-HTC Android device forums will also, not be created.
Thanks
Dave
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i can understand why they would do such a thing. however. This site is THE best on the web for everything HTC but also for everything WINMO. there is a lot on here with the omnia and Xperia becausreit's the same OS. I think XDA-devs should allow other phones on here as long as the developers here are working on them then lets have the forums.
wovens said:
Can I pose a suggestion here? I know that the site is for HTC devices and the devices now come in different OS flavours. Should there be a separation on the subforuns (fora?) by OS now? There are more threads for the Android (and it is gonna be big soon!) coming up and it is getting even more confusing to sift through the posts even more so on the General area and it would be easier for everybody to identify what they want and how to help. No offence here but some other sites already sort things by OS and it looks much neater the way they do.
Cheers! All the best.
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no need for that imo....the forum is very precise and easy to use and there isn't much confusion...so no need for that....
and in a few years (hopefully) we will overcome WM and you will have WM manufactured devices running android and linux with great reliability
...i mean when did MS care for reliability
keridel said:
i can understand why they would do such a thing. however. This site is THE best on the web for everything HTC but also for everything WINMO. there is a lot on here with the omnia and Xperia becausreit's the same OS. I think XDA-devs should allow other phones on here as long as the developers here are working on them then lets have the forums.
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the thing in being strictly htc forum is that we do not want bunch of nokias and other devices around here...
the forum would be destroyed and not usable if there were all those manufacturers.....mobile telephones are one huge field and one forum can't deal with it
xperia is a htc...otherwise it wouldn't be in the forum...the omnia is not and there is no official forum for it.....but as you could probably see bunch of guys gather in the general forum...and that really sucks because they were asked not to and they still do (they do not respect the forum or pay any attention to it imo)....and mods can't deal with it because of their time and resources
farukb said:
the thing in being strictly htc forum is that we do not want bunch of nokias and other devices around here...
the forum would be destroyed and not usable if there were all those manufacturers.....mobile telephones are one huge field and one forum can't deal with it
xperia is a htc...otherwise it wouldn't be in the forum...the omnia is not and there is no official forum for it.....but as you could probably see bunch of guys gather in the general forum...and that really sucks because they were asked not to and they still do (they do not respect the forum or pay any attention to it imo)....and mods can't deal with it because of their time and resources
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i apologise i didnt realise xperia was htc as well. no i too dont want nokia users here lol. i suppose the compromise is keep the forum htc phones but allow in depth use of the resources for the OS's. android has a place here as it is used by h... you know what i'm writing this and thinking to myself actually I DONT want loads of other phones here. I like the fact that XDA-devs are the best there is and you do that by being a specialist not a generalist.
so to summarise. keep things as they are.
what a waste or forum space this post was. I am ashamed.
i did have an android section on the winmo site but ive took it down until there is an actual need for it to be there
at the minute there ist a lot of non htc android device but they are coming so until that time there is no point in me havineg an android section thats gonna stay empty until there is interst
but when the devices come and you need a forum then hit me a line ill start putting android forum support again
KNOW YOUR WILDFIRE S MODEL
MARVEL or MARVELC ?
GSM or CDMA ?
This may be obvious to the teky folk reading this, but believe me, from my own experience this is an extremely important factor in rooting a Wildfire S, it is the single most important thing to know from the very start. Why do I say that? Because I DIDN'T fully understand it when I began my quest to install custom ROMs on my on HTC wfs. I learned the hard way, and this was not due to simply being a novice fool, but because I never found this matter fully explained BEFORE I started to root my phone. There are endless posts, thread, tuturials out there, I know I read hundreds, and new interest comes from searches on Google as I did which lead folk to these countless threads. But, these threads are not always clear on the matter of differing network technology, and very often refer to the Wildfire S marvel as the SINGLE version for our device. That is VERY easy to fall victim to, and it can cause serious issues, frustration, madness and eating tree bark mixed with Guinness.
You can learn much more about the difference between CDMA and GSM network tech using this link. It is explained in layman terms and easily understood. I advise you take time to read it if you have any doubts about your network technology.
However, for the purpose of simplifying this thread, I'm going to lay out the simply facts that YOU NEED TO KNOW about your Wildfire S prior to making any modifications such as a root. Especially if you are in the USA.
Two network versions exist for the Wildfire S and THIS is relected in the developement software, and THAT is what is IMPORTANT TO KNOW:
CENTER]CDMA --- Mainly USA ---- = MARVELC
GSM ---- REST OF WORLD! ---MARVEL
For an example when looking for a ROM for your rooted device see if it states it's target software such as the example below which is in fact at aimed at American CDMA models of the Android HTC WildfireS:
eg> [ROM]cm-9.1.0-CRYPTOMILK-ALPHA9-marvelc
This is what you MUST remember when looking to flash or install ANYTHING to your device. You need to ensure that the developement supports either Marvel or Marvelc, or both as a few do. For Americans on the CDMA Network (Marvelc) sadly there is very little that is available for Marvelc, especially in ROM developement even though the devices have been around for a few years. However, certain developement teams are catching up and doing their best to fill that gap. I feel though that due to the rarity of CDMA users compared to the vast numbers of GSM users of the world there will always be less demand and so less to choose from in the USA (At least for now.)
Hopefully this note will prevent other Wildfire S owners from getting the headaches, frustration, rage and homicidal inclinations that I experienced before I finally caught on to a very simple, but not clearly explained factor regarding the software and workings of our sweet little Wildfire's.
To check your model: Menu>>Settings>>About Phone If it doesn't state Marvel anywhere there, the Google your Model number which you'll find there..
Good Day!
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IF I HELPED CLICK THANKS!
"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many, to so few ..." - Sir Winston Churchill
Thank you a lot for the short, yet very comprehensive guide. I had some troubles installing a ROM and then with the help of your post I came to the conclusion that I had stumbled upon a MarvelC ROM. Out of all the ROMs here I find the one designated to American users. :laugh:
Hi everybody...
It used to be much easier to find the answer to something... but Google is all ads trash now.
I have seen the answers to this question all over the place. Out of days of searching, I have only gotten lots of bad info.
I really just want to know, for sure:
Is there any Samsung Fold 3 sold anywhere in the world, that you can root AND use in the U.S.?
And if so, what is the model?
TiA
It's right here in the forums man...
Link to post on Rooting: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...lash-official-firmware-noob-friendly.4404473/
Models: SM-F926B / SMF926N / SM-F9260
How-To Find: How to find the Model: on your phone → Settings → About Phone → The third row says the Model number and you need to remove the part with the part of /xx, for example, SM-F926B/DS and you only need to type SM-F926B
The U/U1 Models that are sold in the US (Locked/Unlocked) are the ones that cannot be rooted at this time.
EVERY version can run in the US provided it's SIM UNLOCKED and has the right radios, but what I understand is that the 5G radios are the only difference and there are some international models that will work in the US, you just have to look and maybe read more. I have no intention of rooting my Fold 3 at this time, so I have not looked too much into this, but this is just what I found looking here on this forum and even just on the first page.
Thanks. I knew I'd take a little heat. But as you can see, I've been here since 2009... and with a name like AlienPDA... you know what I started on. So I'm not noobing out, I'm just autistic and I like clear answers. Life was easier back then -=)
I am trying to replace a Nexus 6. I haven't found another phone that came close to its specs, (mind you, it's rooted and OC'd to the bleeding edge, 3GHz) in nearly a decade. The screen alone destroys most phones: Resolution, 1440 x 2560 pixels, 16:9 ratio (~493 ppi density), and two VERY CLEAR front-firing speakers.
And now that phones have a silly aspect ratio made for skinny jeans, it looked like I was never going to replace my Nexus.
The fold is the closest a phone has come, and with the Fold 4 coming out, the 3 is in a good price range. But I need root to run a few work programs and provide tether.
> EVERY version can run in the US provided it's SIM UNLOCKED and has the right radios, but what I understand is that the 5G radios are the only difference and there are some international models that will work in the US, you just have to look and maybe read more. I
That part is the part I was referring to in my post. The bands. I've stayed with my carrier all these years, because I have a grandfathered (true) unlimited data plan, and their coverage has the least holes. I know this is because of the bands... and I'd hate to create holes by dropping certain bands.
The nice thing about XDA, we're so big, usually someone has had to have tried XYZ setup.
But I haven't found a post, where someone:
bought a Fold 3, international,
rooted it,
and put it on a U.S. carrier.
So, seemingly, everything stated about the Fold 3, has been hearsay.
Here's an example:
AnnaNguyen said:Thank you William again I just did it and I confirm works on SM-F926U
But... I personally, after reading that, tried the same thing, and it DID NOT work.
So... my option is then to make a new post...
"Samsung Fold 3 SM-F926U not taking root via Magisk"
And then someone will reply... "We already told you that U.S. Fold doesn't take root"
But, but... I mean... it's right there. She said she did it??? Right?
Your reply was, "the info is everywhere, you just need to look..."
Your reply
> The U/U1 Models that are sold in the US (Locked/Unlocked) are the ones that cannot be rooted at this time.
On the first page of the link YOU PROVIDED:
> Thank you William again I just did it and I confirm works on SM-F926U
So...
Do you understand my confusion perhaps?
Apparently either you or Anna are wrong.
But if Anna is wrong, then my question stands.
I'm not dumb, I just cannot make informed decisions on conflicting information.
Totally understand why that might be confusing, but if in doubt look at the thread title.
If the root method included the SM-F926U/U1 model it would have been listed. Since it's not then it is a fair presumption that the model was not included.
As for if the phones will work in the USA will depend on the bands they support. The models SM-F9260/B/N were originally designed and sold with other regions in mind, so they may lack certain bands for use in the USA. You will have to research the bands supported on the 3 models and compare them to the bands your carrier uses.
I know it's not a specific answer to your question but it is a recent experience. A previous phone I had (note 20) was an international model and I can say that it did work, but only in a very generic way. It had limited band support for my carrier so it didn't work that well. Suffice it to say I didn't keep the phone and I returned it. While I had wanted to root the phone in all honesty it would be pointless if I wasn't able to get good performance out of it on the cell network.
> Totally understand why that might be confusing, but if in doubt look at the thread title.
> If the root method included the SM-F926U/U1 model it would have been listed. Since it's not then it is a fair presumption that the model was not included.
Do remember... Talderon's reply to me:
> It's right here in the forums man...
Is it? Is it?
Let's pretend I am an AI... and I am being programmed solely by this fora.
It's a bit more than confusing...
[it is easy, from a human perspective, you're presuming a point of "starting", we all 'started our life on this planet', some X time ago, and have a corpus of knowledge thusly].
But the AI, it's newly born. All the info on here, IS the point of starting.
So, referentially, regardless if the title of that post is limiting the models that it applies to, how do you decide then, that saying it works on "U", isn't NEW information to be added to canon, especially since the author of the thread himself, thanked the person, and didn't correct them.
So IS IT REALLY in the forum, if it's miscible with bad info?
I reread the thread and there really isn't anything in there that debunks it works on "U". Why would the OP thank a person that obviously stated an incompatible model?
I mean, I know personally it doesn't work, now... but if I am being told that the information I seek is on this forum, but the information is bad, how is any of this helpful? I am right back at the question I posed, unanswered unequivocally by the forum.
Keeping this as basic as possible.
1. The SN-F926U/U1 models are not rootable at this time. Anything else said to the contrary should not be believed, debated or given a second thought.
2. It is unknown if a root method for the SN-F926U/U1 will ever be found. If you do not see any threads about work being done on a root method then it means no one is working on one.
3. If and when the SN-F926U/U1 becomes rootable someone will post the method and instructions for use. The thread title will clearly say SN-F926U/U1. Only when you see the threat and flood of people posting about successfully using said method should you consider the information as valid.
4. The international models were built and designed to function and connect to cell networks outside of the USA. The bands they support will vary some depending on the model
5. USA carriers may/might allow a sim/network unlocked international model to connect to the carriers cell network. However it is up to the carrier to determine what services and features are supported.
6. You need to research the cell network bands your carrier uses. Then look up the bands the fold 3 models your thinking of using. Using that information find the model that works on the most number of bands used by your carrier.
7. You can also call your cell carrier, provide the model number(s) your interested in using and ask them is the model supported and what features will or won't work.
8. Because of internatonal carrier and hardware differences you should not expect or have any expectation that an international model will have the same performance level as that of a model designed and sold for use in the USA.
9. If no one has posted the information you seek it means that either of the following is true:
*what your asking doesn't work
*No one has tried what you are asking
*You need to adjust your search terms
1. The SN-F926U/U1 models are not rootable at this time. Anything else said to the contrary should not be believed, debated or given a second thought.
2. It is unknown if a root method for the SN-F926U/U1 will ever be found. If you do not see any threads about work being done on a root method then it means no one is working on one.
3. If and when the SN-F926U/U1 becomes rootable someone will post the method and instructions for use. The thread title will clearly say SN-F926U/U1. Only when you see the threat and flood of people posting about successfully using said method should you consider the information as valid.
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Well... Shouldn't someone maybe then remove the post where someone claims that they successfully rooted the SN-F926U, so people don't buy the SN-F926U thinking it can be rooted?
I kinda feel like this is where the "gap in understanding" is at.
--- I want to do X, can I?
"Just look in the forums your answer is there"
--- Well it says I can do X here.
"That's not right, ignore that... but everything else is accurate"
--- ??????
Mods have the ability to remove incorrect info right?
As a forum of various members from all over we are required too exercise common sense and reasoning when we read the forum and apply the tools, instructions and methods. Even the thread in question indicates one needs a "Galaxy fold 3 and common sense'.
For example if one is not ready to accept the risks and consequences (i.e. Knox being disabled and apps not working because they require Knox) they should not root a device.
Another example is where one post is made where someone says it works on the U model by extension does not make that one post to be true. Especially when you take into consideration other pieces of information like it has been stated numerous times already the U/U1 is not rootable, the thread title not including U/U1, the requirement of the root process listed that OEM unlocking in developer options menu be present (which the U/U1 models do not have), and no other thread exists detailing how/with what (and proof that the method works) to root the SM-F926U/U1.
Also I disagree that an understanding gap exists.. Even with that one post left alone enough content already exists that (and even this thread) will address any further issues about it.
That all being said if you want to discuss it further you should contact the forum moderators via PM.
Ok... For one, you didn't post enough information to answer your question.
There are 2 variants of the Nexus 6, XT1100, and XT1103, and they themselves have different band coverage.
Additionally it would be in your best interest to start with the bands your carrier uses, not what the phone supports. You have a grandfathered plan, there will be bands that will almost certainly be locked out from your plan's coverage. Chances are your Nexus is only using one or two, start with *#*#4636#*#* and see what bands you're currently using, then check if a fold supports it.
Ugh, been sick, so forgot about this thread.
Glad you got some more answers and details.