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[Q] Camera and image quality - as bad for everyone else or just me?

A lot of fuss was made over the "ImageSense" chip in the One series, especially the One X and One S, but when an HTC tweet mentioned a blog post (also by HTC employees) where they took it out on a trip and took some shots I was eager to see the results. The first impression was that the thumbnails looked great so I clicked through to the full-size images and ......... that's where I sat in shock at how really poor the image quality was. There was noise in around 50% of the image, lack of detail in most areas and it just plain sucked.
I commented on the article, as did others, all commenting on how poor it was for a supposed fantastic camera with all new ImageSense chip. After a while the person who posted the photos replied saying they were uploaded in reduced quality to save on load times and that full versions would be uploaded soon. At that time the full size images that I'd seen were removed. No new images were posted the last time I looked and as I now own the One X I've seen for myself that, sadly, this is the actual quality of the camera. No matter the light or subject I have noise and lost detail all over.
Is my experience here unique or are others finding that, for a supposedly fantastic camera phone with new chip specifically for photos, it just plain sucks?

Photos taken with HOX have a lot of noise indeed.. Sadly, HOX camera cannot compare to my ex iPhone 4s' camera.
EDIT: you might wanna look into that thread.

It's not that the sensor is bad, it's just really really bad compression on the pictures that is applied by the stock camera. Using a different camera app yields much sharper images.

Can you be more specific what app are you using? Isn't compression done before image even reaches any app?

Of course not, compression is performed only when dumping the image to storage. Until then, it's only RAW memory.
I'm facing the same issue now.. I must try another Photo APP...
Any ideas?!

Maybe is the compression you can try to use camera fv-5
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I also feel that the camera isnt up to the standard as my old iPhone 4 was. Thought it was just me.
Anyone have a suggestion for a good app that will decrease noise on photo's?

I have problem too
Dyonas said:
A lot of fuss was made over the "ImageSense" chip in the One series, especially the One X and One S, but when an HTC tweet mentioned a blog post (also by HTC employees) where they took it out on a trip and took some shots I was eager to see the results. The first impression was that the thumbnails looked great so I clicked through to the full-size images and ......... that's where I sat in shock at how really poor the image quality was. There was noise in around 50% of the image, lack of detail in most areas and it just plain sucked.
I commented on the article, as did others, all commenting on how poor it was for a supposed fantastic camera with all new ImageSense chip. After a while the person who posted the photos replied saying they were uploaded in reduced quality to save on load times and that full versions would be uploaded soon. At that time the full size images that I'd seen were removed. No new images were posted the last time I looked and as I now own the One X I've seen for myself that, sadly, this is the actual quality of the camera. No matter the light or subject I have noise and lost detail all over.
Is my experience here unique or are others finding that, for a supposedly fantastic camera phone with new chip specifically for photos, it just plain sucks?
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I also have the same problem and have not found a solution, even though my phone is a htc one x +. See this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2264896

Dyonas said:
A lot of fuss was made over the "ImageSense" chip in the One series, especially the One X and One S, but when an HTC tweet mentioned a blog post (also by HTC employees) where they took it out on a trip and took some shots I was eager to see the results. The first impression was that the thumbnails looked great so I clicked through to the full-size images and ......... that's where I sat in shock at how really poor the image quality was. There was noise in around 50% of the image, lack of detail in most areas and it just plain sucked.
I commented on the article, as did others, all commenting on how poor it was for a supposed fantastic camera with all new ImageSense chip. After a while the person who posted the photos replied saying they were uploaded in reduced quality to save on load times and that full versions would be uploaded soon. At that time the full size images that I'd seen were removed. No new images were posted the last time I looked and as I now own the One X I've seen for myself that, sadly, this is the actual quality of the camera. No matter the light or subject I have noise and lost detail all over.
Is my experience here unique or are others finding that, for a supposedly fantastic camera phone with new chip specifically for photos, it just plain sucks?
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Camera of HTC One X is one of the worst camera since HD2, even HD2 has better camera. The only good thing here is HDR mode, which is also not so good.
One X produces photos with so much noise, dynamic range varies and contrast is bad, and on direct light cant compare even with old Blackberry phones like 9780 or 9800 torch. Colors turn to be cold/blue. Photos are washed out etc etc There are no life in photos.
One X and One followed with BIG ADVERTISEMENTS and MARKETING CAMPAIGN, they are not good camera phones. I was naive to buy it. Now im searching to replace with Incredible S or Sensation even HD2.
HTC Sensation equiped with much better camera. Blacberry 9810 and 9800 has 10x better cameras. Not to mention N8 or E7 Nokia.

Yes, but your sig still says bless HTC..
I changed to SGS4 and the camera is the best i'e seen.. think about doing the same. No hope for Hox..
Cheers!

Phk said:
Yes, but your sig still says bless HTC..
I changed to SGS4 and the camera is the best i'e seen.. think about doing the same. No hope for Hox..
Cheers!
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I have made AWESOME pictures with the cyanogenmod camera APP. And now I reverted to stock and the only difference I get is that images are no longer sharper but after an auto enhance edit I get some pretty nice colors and I'm glad with the pictures again.. I wasn't glad with the macro shooting of cyanogenmod and I wasn't glad with the system overall that's why I got to stock.
Thanks ,Dan.
USING HOX

Phk said:
Yes, but your sig still says bless HTC..
I changed to SGS4 and the camera is the best i'e seen.. think about doing the same. No hope for Hox..
Cheers!
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funny but im not giving up on HTC as ive mentioned.
i will buy sensation or one v.
it is very bizzare company politics of HTC to announce three new models One v, one s and One x and ONE V which is 'value model' has way better camera than 'superior' A class ONE X.
and what we are... donkeys... it is all about some software (loaded on purpose because of that competition stuff) i suppose, same chip, same camera software two different photo qualities,

What are the issues with your htc One V?

Hi guys, i want to buy htc one v. requirements are quite normal.
1. good telephone.
2. good camera.
3. great music sound and fm radio.
gsmarena confirmed all three for htc one v. So i was on positive notes about one V.
But reading the problems of yellow tint, pixels etc. i have second thoughts.
can you please tell me what are the problems in your htc one v..so i can make good judgment whether to buy it or not.

vu2ikl said:
Hi guys, i want to buy htc one v. requirements are quite normal.
1. good telephone.
2. good camera.
3. great music sound and fm radio.
gsmarena confirmed all three for htc one v. So i was on positive notes about one V.
But reading the problems of yellow tint, pixels etc. i have second thoughts.
can you please tell me what are the problems in your htc one v..so i can make good judgment whether to buy it or not.
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1. Perfect but some people have Death Grip problem but i think there is a soln.
2. Video recording is awesome and pictures are quite good..
3. Music sound ofc BEATS AUDIO but loudspeaker is just decent...FM Radio is perfect...

The only issue I have is Death Grip, but it is very annoying. Hope in a sw solution...

cool
ok cool..
yeah..i have seen some of the threads with death grip and their solution.
So, only couple thing which are still bothering me are the yellow spot and light leak.
I will be buying the htc one v from local shop. so i can check for these problems.
the question is HOW? is there any specific way i can check for yellow spot? cause light leak from screen can be identified (from touch buttons and near usb plugin)
i also heard that htc ppl said, there was problem with first few batches of mobiles and then these problems were resolved. So, anyone from India here who bought this piece recently..can you confirm your device does not have these issues?
thanks in advance..

I have no complaints about this phone. It leaks light a little from the USB port but only someone looking for it in the dark would notice.

Hey buddy i jst bought myslf a one v and trust me da report is super positive.......evrything inclding camera ,music, android 4.0,looks......all are amzing....u shud buy one....
Sent from my HTC One V using XDA

vu2ikl said:
ok cool..
yeah..i have seen some of the threads with death grip and their solution.
So, only couple thing which are still bothering me are the yellow spot and light leak.
I will be buying the htc one v from local shop. so i can check for these problems.
the question is HOW? is there any specific way i can check for yellow spot? cause light leak from screen can be identified (from touch buttons and near usb plugin)
i also heard that htc ppl said, there was problem with first few batches of mobiles and then these problems were resolved. So, anyone from India here who bought this piece recently..can you confirm your device does not have these issues?
thanks in advance..
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The yellow spots disappear after a month or so...
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Its a great phone. Go ahead buy it... Period.
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My problem at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633052
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Hhm some video i downloaded cant play.
Death grip also, annoying it is because you loss signal when you put your phone in the pocket
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yep, camera is good
there is expamples:

I'll just be talking about software since I have the t328w, brother of the One V (same exact specs, better design IMO) but here:
PROS:
+VERY fast and fluid UI
+Very Nice Screen (Colour and sharpness wise)
+ICE CREAM SANDWHICH
CONS:
-Beats® Audio is the most overrated POS ever,sorry, but I am sort of an audiophile, and sadly even my iPod touch has better sound quality, it just makes the music more louder with increased Bass (but not THAT much either), and the music through beats (or I guess through this phone) has no atmosphere, it sounds to flat, and equalizers only make it worse by muffling out sounds while increasing others
-Camera is only so so, quality is good, but not great, same with video camera, and night shots are just horrible
-Emulators have sound issues (both Gameboid and Snesoid)
-Not that powerful in general (atleast for the specs it has) when it comes to gaming performance, though quadrant performance is amazing (even though the score I get it ~1400, but it feels like it should be atleast ~1850

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Are any of these issues still present? A colleague wants to buy one. How bad is the Grip of Death issue?

tmihai20 said:
Are any of these issues still present? A colleague wants to buy one. How bad is the Grip of Death issue?
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try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628914

BUY IT.
vu2ikl said:
hi guys, i want to buy htc one v. Requirements are quite normal.
1. Good telephone.
2. Good camera.
3. Great music sound and fm radio.
Gsmarena confirmed all three for htc one v. So i was on positive notes about one v.
But reading the problems of yellow tint, pixels etc. I have second thoughts.
Can you please tell me what are the problems in your htc one v..so i can make good judgment whether to buy it or not.
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i have htc one v and there are no problems with it.:d

No review site ever complained of deathgrip and gsmarena.com specifically tested for it. My phone doesn't have this problem. I've had it for over a month now and have never dropped a call, even here in Cambodia where the system is less than perfect. But a couple people here say they do.
I think calling the problem deathgrip is an exaggeration, if it even exists in the One V.
With my phone, wifi receptivity does change depending upon the position of the device, but this is common to many other small devices and is only a nuisance when on the edge of the signal's reasonable range.
Edit: Forgot to mention that I really like my One V and have no buyer's remorse. It's a great device.
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ReDDs3D said:
CONS:
-Beats® Audio is the most overrated POS ever,sorry, but I am sort of an audiophile, and sadly even my iPod touch has better sound quality, it just makes the music more louder with increased Bass (but not THAT much either), and the music through beats (or I guess through this phone) has no atmosphere, it sounds to flat, and equalizers only make it worse by muffling out sounds while increasing others
-Camera is only so so, quality is good, but not great, same with video camera, and night shots are just horrible
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On Beats +1. It's a junk gimmick that ruins the sound, especially if you listen to anything beside rock or rap.
On the camera, I don't agree. For the price range, it's a very good snapper. No camera phone or point & shoot camera does well in low light.

i got htc one v 4 days back nd m having wierd issues !!!!
the 'W' key on d virtul keyboard when d phone used vertically is nt responsive !!!
tried keyboard calibration nd restoring factory settings but nothing helped
also the pattern lock doesnt work properly !!!!
ne solutions??????
plzzz help

JalmiNyondong1933 said:
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1628914
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See my post in that thread - here

I only had the yellow spots issue. Now its receding.

Any who agrees HTC Amaze 4G has a better Camera?

Second day on my HTC One X, I feel its very good in terms of everything but Camera. I had an Amaze 4G before. HOX's camera is way too noisy compared to Amaze's. Does any one else feels the same? I have a UK model HOX bought off eBay. Please tell if i am wrong regarding the camera. It might be my personal issue. If you think that, please suggest any way to get rid of the noise. I somewhat experience it in the day light too.
Below are the two images one from HOX and other from Amaze. (Sorry for these pics, that is my hukka coal)
From left 1st one is from HTC One X and 2nd is from Amaze.
You can definitely see the difference of noise and resolution.
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Lets start with the most basic question, did you focus correctly and did you hold your phone steady without too much movement?

Agree on some points that the picture captured with amaze was better with less noise. Had Amaze before SGS Note. Also, the dedicated camera button was excellent with Amaze for caps.The video quality was superb and lot smooth.
Good thing about One X is the shutter speed. The Full HD capture with One X is not smoother like Amaze also with less bitrates.
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D3VICE said:
Lets start with the most basic question, did you focus correctly and did you hold your phone steady without too much movement?
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Duh! Yes. I use camera more than any app. So I believe i know every in and out of it.
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@Op,
Deleted my post as I don't want to start a flame war.
To my opinion you opened this thread in the wrong forum, start reading the forum rules.
Amaze, never heared of it, don't care neither.
This is HTC One X forum, and not everybody jumped from Amaze to One X.

The One X camera is garbage. My DHD took better pictures.

ozaghloul said:
The One X camera is garbage. My DHD took better pictures.
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Let's not exaggerate, the One X camera is at least 400,000 times Better than that on the DHD (yes, intentional irony)
But, the DHD had a CRAP camera.
And the One X, has one of the best, albeit with too much compression.

Absolutely not. My One X pictures are extremely noisy, while the DHD pictures are nice and crisp. The DHD pictures are far more superior, its not even close.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Tip, change ISO to 100 and make a picture during daylight with your HOX.
Bye bye noise.
ozaghloul said:
Absolutely not. My One X pictures are extremely noisy, while the DHD pictures are nice and crisp. The DHD pictures are far more superior, its not even close.
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yup its a well established fact

Ok so people agree on the noise problem. I wanted to hear that. I thought my phone problem. Did any one try the HTC Amaze 4G Camera Application on HOX? I am not rooted currently and not willing to do the same until I figure out a way for bad photos, then i can decide whether or not to sell off HOX. Please can anyone do that for me?
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Uhm.., try my tip on post # 9 and show us the facts later. :laugh:
I like to see a lovely noisy picture during daylight.
khnfrhn said:
Ok so people agree on the noise problem. I wanted to hear that. I thought my phone problem. Did any one try the HTC Amaze 4G Camera Application on HOX? I am not rooted currently and not willing to do the same until I figure out a way for bad photos, then i can decide whether or not to sell off HOX. Please can anyone do that for me?
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ozaghloul said:
Absolutely not. My One X pictures are extremely noisy, while the DHD pictures are nice and crisp. The DHD pictures are far more superior, its not even close.
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I know it's not even close...
the DHD has an Atrocious camera.
While the One X puts out very impressive pictures, crisp clear and vibrant, while being realistic.
Are you using the camera right? You aren't holding your hand over the lens are you?

no problem with mine, no noise for me, but I do know how to take photos with a camera...

ozaghloul said:
Absolutely not. My One X pictures are extremely noisy, while the DHD pictures are nice and crisp. The DHD pictures are far more superior, its not even close.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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If that's really the case and you're not just trolling, either you have a faulty HOX or you are completely clueless when it comes to using the camera. I've come from a DHD to a HOX and the improvement is staggering.

We have enough existing camera threads. Please use on of these instead of creating a new thread.
Closed.

why HOX camera is not good *

hi guys,
im not photographer , but today when i compare my HOX with SGS3 result made me upset a bit .
tried under the different lighting positions , all were good with SGS3.
have been using for 2 years IncredibleS , pics were much better than HOX .
any ideas agree or disagree wit me ?

Hox has very good camera module, you need to play a bit with settings. On auto sometimes it's crappy.

mando508 said:
Hox has very good camera module, you need to play a bit with settings. On auto sometimes it's crappy.
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SGS3 was in an electronic market and was demo machine, every1 was playing with it. so it was not setted up correctly, all settings were from factory setup .
i used to my Incredible S factory setup , result was amazing.
please could you give me an example setup conf for HOX.
as i said before im not expert but i neigher like front and back.

It is rubbish compared to xperia T
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xl VipeR lx said:
It is rubbish compared to xperia T
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You can't compare the two
Xperia 13mp.
,htc 8mp
Unfair on htc
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AW: why HOX camera is not good *
alicine said:
SGS3 was in an electronic market and was demo machine, every1 was playing with it. so it was not setted up correctly, all settings were from factory setup .
i used to my Incredible S factory setup , result was amazing.
please could you give me an example setup conf for HOX.
as i said before im not expert but i neigher like front and back.
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You shouldn't use widescreen mode in widescreen mode you don't have 8mpx you will have just 6 mpx set sharpness to -1 and iso to 100 and this should be the best config for the hox
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Mr_S said:
You can't compare the two
Xperia 13mp.
,htc 8mp
Unfair on htc
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Mpx doesn't mean nothing... It's all about the lens, sensor and f.
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Use some camera tweak and then you will see some changes.

alicine said:
SGS3 was in an electronic market and was demo machine, every1 was playing with it. so it was not setted up correctly, all settings were from factory setup .
i used to my Incredible S factory setup , result was amazing.
please could you give me an example setup conf for HOX.
as i said before im not expert but i neigher like front and back.
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Personally i'm using sharpness -2, iso & exposure depends on situation and after photo is taken i'm correcting white balance (not always) in editor (because in camera options htc didn't include all AWB settings :<). Photos are grainy but there is a lot of details... overall it's a decent shooter with really clever interface.

I'm a real photographer in real life.. and I always play a lot with my toy camera a.k.a LOMO that still using negative as module.. and what I saw here is modern people style thinking.. my friend, my sensei(teacher) tell me this.. 'a good photo come from a good photographer, not a good camera'.. just use iyapota mod..
and here is sunny day configuration,,
exp = +1
cont = +2
Sat = +1
sharp = +1
ISO = 'it sunny, so test it with low iso 1st and make sure when you are using camera, turn you phone brightness to max so you can see if the photo failed'
Hope this help a little.. For night or dark.. we need a better sensor to focus.. so I always bring torch with me so I can light up subject for focusing before I snap.

shouldnt i select widescreen ?

alicine said:
shouldnt i select widescreen ?
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It all up to you.. it doesn't matter wide or not.. I always use wide.. just make sure you shooting with correct light sources.. that actually what every photographer should know.. low light will giving you a great picture sometime with our f2.0 aperture but any picture still need correct light value to light up photo.. So keep try to find a good and compatible setting for you need. And don't compare picture when it still in phone.. better use pc to see the real quality of a picture. And you need to love the camera so you can learn to use it. Here some sample.
Auto Mode
Sunset Mode
Low Light Panorama
HDR
Or just head to this Thread to see how great our camera if we know how to use it well
Hope it help you.

alicine said:
hi guys,
im not photographer , but today when i compare my HOX with SGS3 result made me upset a bit .
tried under the different lighting positions , all were good with SGS3.
have been using for 2 years IncredibleS , pics were much better than HOX .
any ideas agree or disagree wit me ?
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Are you sure about this? The many comparisons I have seen online always show the One X having deeper colours and less noise in low light. Pictures taking on the S3 seem a little... bland.
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My last phone was an IncS and I have to say the HOX outperforms it. While the megapixels are the same, the quality of the lens is better and the image chip in the HOX is better and produces better photos.
Regardless, if I need to take any photos, I use my dslr.
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fizzlington said:
My last phone was an IncS and I have to say the HOX outperforms it. While the megapixels are the same, the quality of the lens is better and the image chip in the HOX is better and produces better photos.
Regardless, if I need to take any photos, I use my dslr.
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u meaning Incredible S worse than HOX ?

batna.antab said:
Mpx doesn't mean nothing... It's all about the lens, sensor and f.
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I Agree. I think anything over 8MP will only look good on big screens such as TV's. Have a look at this: http://gizmodo.com/5888552/reminder-megapixels-dont-matter

omondisingh said:
I Agree. I think anything over 8MP will only look good on big screens such as TV's. Have a look at this: http://gizmodo.com/5888552/reminder-megapixels-dont-matter
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Yup! Correct! It actually need to base on our purpose 1st before saying it is good or not.. Let me give you a situation.. You need to snap 100 of people in one picture.. And you'll need to use a higher mp so when we try to zooming closer when viewing in pc or media viewer it will not have distort face..
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nashshafrulrezza said:
Yup! Correct! It actually need to base on our purpose 1st before saying it is good or not.. Let me give you a situation.. You need to snap 100 of people in one picture.. And you'll need to use a higher mp so when we try to zooming closer when viewing in pc or media viewer it will not have distort face..
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Exactly. All that matters is a bigger lens to capture more light, type of sensor and focal ratio

Desire hd camera IS THE BEST HTC has made to date it leaves the hox dragging behind faraway with it image processor and fast shutter ( nobody cares about how fast they take the shot HTC but rather the end result picture quality)

AW: why HOX camera is not good *
I think your eyes is not good
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NO U.Focus / Refocus!! Anyone else disappointed with the M9

The most useful camera trick for me was being able to refocus pictures after taking them.
And the M9 does not support that. I do see that the picture quality is better than the M8. But I use this feature so much along with the other features made possible because of the DUO Camera. No M9 for me!! (Unless something changes)
Anyone else disappointed with the M9 (it feels like a... M7.5, if you already have the M8 ) for whatever reason ?

There is an app 4 that

Im disappointed with the m9 as well
You can download the Bokeh camera... Open the camera app.. click on the Camera mode button (4 round circles in the bottom left of the screen, Click the big + sign... D/L'd the Bokeh camera.
Ive had this M9 now for 2 days, the first m9 I had went back for overheating, even after the 340MB update.. it didnt help the overheating
Coming from an M8 I was aware that the M9 is an incremental update, not a new flagship, but I love the audio and the awesome 4 UltraPixel Cam, so why the hell did HTC give into the UltraPixel Bashing and join the wagon train of MegaPixels, Why didnt HTC develop a 6 or even an 8 Ultrapixel camera. As a result of this cowardice theyve f++ked the camera up big time.
I followed the guide given here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59821245&postcount=274
As well as experimented and tried and tested it, to no avail.. and as a result Im stuck with a device worse than what they released last year;
A 20MPx image I took, looks worse a 5Mpx from the HTC desire, pure mush on the details, yet an 8Mpx can Rarely look stunning (Sorry Ive tried but cant upload any pics)
If anyone can give me a reason to keep the M9, please convince me, or I may send it to eBay.
How about anyone else

I would give you my M8 for your M9
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