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Has google said anything on why there is a samsung build of ics?

I'm preaty bummed that i purchased a nexus thinking i would be getting updates and stuff as they come out, now that i know my phone has a samsung build of ics i am kind of dissapointed since samsung does not have a good track record when it comes to updates, my phone is a bell mobility phone. So has google said anything on why samsung has their own build of ics? If this has been answered already sorry i tried the search and couldn't find anything.
Thanks
Gunner
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EvanVanVan said:
Just wondering, is auto correct on or off with your phone? Whatever it is, switch it...
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Sorry fixed
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If you're disappointed with your yakjuux (Bell/Virgin) version, why not install the official Google yakju version? There are a few threads about how to do that if you decide you want to.

I am a noob when it comes to this stuff, how hard would it be to do?
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Download the factory image from the following link, making sure to pick a GSM build: code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Extract the zip file to where your fastboot is located. There are 3 files you'll need, the bootloader, the radio and the image.
Then use the following fastboot commands to apply the updates, please note the name of the file depends on which one you choose to use.
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-maguro-primekj10.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot flash radio radio-maguro-i9250xxkk1.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot -w update image-yakju-itl41f.zip
And then you're on the Google build. Hope that helped.

Gunner86 said:
I'm preaty bummed that i purchased a nexus thinking i would be getting updates and stuff as they come out, now that i know my phone has a samsung build of ics i am kind of dissapointed since samsung does not have a good track record when it comes to updates
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What drugs are you on?
For its most recent models, Samsung has had an amazing trackrecord when it comes to updates.
I had my SGS1 for around 18 months. It got 6 official updates, spanning 3 major OS revisions. That's one new update every 3rd month and every major Android-update bar ICS.
Absoutely amazing.
The corresponding US carrier-phone models (Fascinate, Vibrant, Captivate, Shingeroo etc) did not get the updates because the US carriers blocked them.
Morale: Don't buy US carrier's ****ed up and locked down carrier-phones variants of good phones available in an international edition not tied to a carrier interested in locking it down. The international version is a different and better product. Always.
Plus it doesn't have carriers blocking your updates.
Besides, this Galaxy Nexus can be made into a true "Google" phone with a few lines of fastboot. I know, because I went ahead and did that.
It's not really an issue at all.
Edit: To answer your actual question (sorry!), I think so far Google is indeed guilty of not having provided an explanation for this. Seemingly though, they've done stuff like this with different build numbers in the past.
Also Samsung say they have custom builds (or at least custom so far) to allow for required regional customizations with regard to localization and things not in stock ICS yet.
We'll see how it pans out.

josteink said:
What drugs are you on?
For its most recent models, Samsung has had an amazing trackrecord when it comes to updates.
I had my SGS1 for around 18 months. It got 6 official updates, spanning 3 major OS revisions. That's one new update every 3rd month and every major Android-update bar ICS.
Absoutely amazing.
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That's great for you guys in Europe but the OP is using Bell Mobility, which is in Canada. We received a grand total of TWO updates, 2.2 (not 2.2.x, and not counting the first failed version of 2.2) and 2.3.3. The first update was timely, but created no end of problems for users in the form of fried internal SD cards and corrupted external SD. It was several months before a new build of 2.2 was offered (still not 2.2.x). Gingerbread was offered last August, a stable but still buggy 2.3.3.
Our Galaxy S more closely resembled the "World" phone with some minor changes, designated GT-I9000M. To obtain a true "World" phone for use in Canada would cause numerous hassles, in buying the phone, warranty, and configuring the Modem to work in Canada.
Some users rooted their 9000M phones to use international builds of Android to keep up with Google's updates but again, most had a lot of frustration. Anyone who roots their phone and installs the latest build of something in effect becomes a beta tester. That's fine for some users but some of us wish to remain stock.
It's interesting how each of Samsung's corporate HQ's made different decisions on when to roll out updates, and even withold them entirely. E.g. Scandinavian countries seemed to get updates months ahead of North America, who sometimes didn't get updates at all

[Q] Ice Cream Sandwich?

I just picked up a Galaxy S Glide (Roger's version of the Captivate Glide) today, and the Sales Rep. insisted that the phone was going to get ICS. I'm just wondering if anyone knows if anything 'official' has been said on the subject?
Or, worst case, I've rooted it already (and installed the 1.2ghz oc'd kernel), so is anyone working on a custom ICS ROM?
Thanks!

There is already a discussion about this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441738
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Samsung, like Moto and a few ithers, has already broken their Google Alliance agreement to keep recent phones updated, and the Glide was conspicuously absent from their list of phones confirmed to be getting updates. Engadget updates a list of phones getting ICS. Check it out here: http://www.engadget.com/updates/which-devices-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
The sales Rep, like most phone sales reps (in my experience) completely lied to your face. That doesn't mean it's not coming, but it means Samsung is being non-committal and the outcome is likely going to depend on how successful the Glide is.
As for homebrew, it bears mentioning that, unlike going from Eclair to Froyo, or Froyo to Gingerbread, ICS represents a major change in the Android framework, such that it breaks compatibility with old drivers, and it requires a lot more low-level work to update. This is why you see manufacturers being comparatively stingy with updates this time. While a homebrew ROM is not an impossibility, it's going to be more difficult than usual, and there's a much greater chance that certain things won't work because of the lack of available drivers.
I'll be honest, I really wanted a Glide. I love hard keyboards and it seemed like the best slider on the market. But I got a Galaxy S II Skyrocket instead, specifically because of the Ice Cream Sandwich issue. It's really kind of a bad time to be buying an Android phone because so many are going to get left behind, and it's such a massive, important upgrade.

Frogacuda said:
Samsung, like Moto and a few ithers, has already broken their Google Alliance agreement to keep recent phones updated, and the Glide was conspicuously absent from their list of phones confirmed to be getting updates. Engadget updates a list of phones getting ICS. Check it out here: http://www.engadget.com/updates/which-devices-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
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They also never said they wouldn't bring ICS to the Glide unlike the Captivate and the Galaxy S.

vil33 said:
They also never said they wouldn't bring ICS to the Glide unlike the Captivate and the Galaxy S.
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Right, which means it's likely going to depend on a few factors that are yet unclear, like how well the phone sells and whether or not carriers want to pay for the update. (AT&T is the WORST when it comes to updates though, so I'm hoping Rogers pulls their weight here).
It's a big question mark right now. The hardware is more than up to the task, and it really should get it, but Samsung and AT&T are both pretty bummy in this department and I wouldn't take anything for granted.
Like I said, if I thought it was a lock, I'd be a Glide owner right now. I really miss that keyboard, it's a great little phone.

ICS 4.0.3!!
I was using AnTuTu benchmarking.. and found this entry..
Looks like someone is working with Android 4.0.3 with an OC'd Glide

I want that phone
What do we need for Android 4 on our phones? >_<

Frogacuda said:
The sales Rep, like most phone sales reps (in my experience) completely lied to your face. That doesn't mean it's not coming, but it means Samsung is being non-committal and the outcome is likely going to depend on how successful the Glide is.
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I don't necessarily believe he lied, at least deliberately.
When my wife and I went to look at it in a local store, they didn't carry it there. However one of the sales reps actually owned it, and let us look at his. I explicitly asked him if it was upgradeable to ICS, and he said yes.
I see no reason for him to lie, knowing ahead of time he's not getting a sale from us on that phone.
EDIT: However that doesn't mean Samsung won't just say no anyway. However since this is a brand new device, I'd say no news is good news. Especially since they never explicitly said it wasn't going to be released.

Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch ICS update leaked SFHUB mentioned

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Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch ICS update leaked
26 April 2012 by Michael Crider ]
Ah, there hasn’t been enough news lately about the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch lately – my fingers were just starting to recover. An enterprising XDA user named “sfhub” has posted what seems to be an official Ice Cream Sandwich update for the Now Network phone, compatible only with the specific version of the device. The leak comes after various international versions of the Galaxy S II have been updated, not to mention leaks for AT&T’s Galaxy S II and Galaxy S II Skyrocket.
The update comes in the form of a one-click Odin desktop install, so you’ll need a PC in order to apply it. The XDA poster has kindle pre-modded the software to grant root (which pretty much anyone who installs a leak will want anyway) and offers it in a “clean” version that wipes your current ROM or an upgrade version that keeps your user data intact. The latter may cause problems with some apps, so for a worry free experience I’d recommend a clean flash.
Early user reports are positive; the software seems nearly complete. No major issues with the core Android and TouchWiz experience have been noted by flashers, though the update process is confusing if you’ve never used Odin before. If you’ve already rooted, remember to make a Nandroid backup. There’s still no word on when the OTA update will arrive.
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http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-ics-update-leaked-20120426/

XDA has a leak of ICS? Why did nobody tell us?! When did this happen?!?!

According to Calkulin, this is not the official update, as every leak has had OTAs.
Transmission sent from my slim n trim Galaxy S II.

Is it just fd24?
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Pheno.menon said:
According to Calkulin, this is not the official update, as every leak has had OTAs.
Transmission sent from my slim n trim Galaxy S II.
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omg... i've applied it to some people in my company...
it should get the OTA although it's not the official one, right?
The thing is I need to preserve their data and if it won't receive any further OTA, it's gonna be too cumbersome...

drpandol said:
omg... i've applied it to some people in my company...
it should get the OTA although it's not the official one, right?
The thing is I need to preserve their data and if it won't receive any further OTA, it's gonna be too cumbersome...
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i dont know if you're trolling or stupid.

cnstarz said:
i dont know if you're trolling or stupid.
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I'm going for stupid, things will be so much more interesting that way.

drpandol said:
omg... i've applied it to some people in my company...
it should get the OTA although it's not the official one, right?
The thing is I need to preserve their data and if it won't receive any further OTA, it's gonna be too cumbersome...
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It goes along well with the original post of this tread.....
Why would anyone copy and paste that story....

Just a stupid troll.lol..

You guys scared away the OP and after he gave breaking news......

Alright. You guys have had your fun....
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered Epic Touch

Jelly Bean update! But not for us! :(

So the International unlocked version got their Jelly Bean update today. Man! Why doesn't Sammy hire some of these devs on here to speed up the freaking process!!
Edit: Sorry Sammy its not your fault its the freaking carriers!! Bastards!!! thanks Andy!
Edit again: OK Sammy im putting you back in the crap house!!! bastards!!! thanks intub8!
White Hot! GS3.

blame the carriers.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Its not Sammy...definitely the money grubbing carriers in the US...its pathetic

Oh I see thanks for sharing! Will change OP freaking carriers!!!! Lol.....
White Hot! GS3.

andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Intub8 said:
Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?

kgbkny said:
Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.

kgbkny said:
Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
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Three leaks? I haven't seen them for download anywhere.
This is getting ridiculous.

just use a custom rom!

scorpion667 said:
All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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And I suppose Apple doesn't care about profit margins?
In all honesty, I can't say I disagree. Apple pretty much gave the carriers the finger by strictly controlling what's included in the updates and their release timeline. My biggest frustration with Android is the complete lack of uniformity when it comes to keeping it up to date. With that being said, I would sooner switch to Windows than iOS.
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.

scorpion667 said:
All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Wut? Samsung has slimmer margins than Apple does. By a LONG shot.
Also, Apple doesn't let carriers control updates, but the carriers do significantly control what is going in to each update (primarily in terms of what features are enabled for use when). They still don't have a gold paved road.
That being said, I do wish Samsung would force the carriers to a better update schedule. I wouldn't care if it was consistently a month after the international version. That would be better than what we have now.

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I spoke to an ATT rep on chat and they said that they were the ones holding up the release. Doesn't seem like they care what with the disabling of google wallet as well.

kgbkny said:
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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I kinda agree as I did the same with my S1 i9000 : flashed ROMs and kernels onto it on a weekly basis for nearly 1½ year.
Now that I have my S3, I just don't feel like that anymore as I :
- Appreciate the quality and stability of Samsung's releases
- Enjoy using the best camera app there is
- Know that the phone will eventually be updated to an even better release
However, the day I'll be told by Samsung that my S3 will no longer be elligible to upgrades, just watch me go back to my custom ROMs flashing habits! héhéhé
As for the bloatware ... root and any decent file explorer can help you get rid of it!

I thought most people knew by now that only Official Google devices get (somewhat) prompt updates. I didn't buy my SIII based on what it was going to get, I bought it based on what it already had. IMO as long as they update the phone in a relatively timely manner (within 6 months I'd say) then I am content - even then I wouldn't be too upset. I would just flash something myself.

I do the same. Take official firmware and basically make my own custom rom.
That way I have control about what is and isnt done.
I root it..
remove bloatware myself with root explorer (after copying everything I am about to remove to my external sd for safe keeping)
keep copies of the build.prop, framework-res systemui etc.
I modify the systemui for my own icons etc.
Install other modes etc.
As for leaks the only leak I know off on AT&T based is LH1 which I am running.
I am not running the latest lh9 as lh1 has everything that lh9 has but doesnt have nfc screwed up so wallet still works with it.
I am running the lh9 modem.

By the time the S3 will become ineligible for updates, I will have moved on to my next phone. Back in 2011, Google set up an Android update alliance, where many manufacturers and U.S.-based carriers promised that new Android phones would receive timely OS updates for 18 months after launch. The only timely thing about this promise was the death of this alliance. After Jellybean, I give the S3 one more update before Samsung declares it non-upgradeable. It's unfortunate, but that's just the nature of the beast.
I'm well aware that only official Google devices (Nexus) get timely updates. This is the only reason why I held on to my Galaxy Nexus after buying the S3. I was well aware that it'll be a loooooooooong time before the S3 sees an update, so I kept the Nexus to satisfy my cravings for latest Android versions.

http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?

jmacdonald19 said:
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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Good find! When the initial Samsung statement regarding the U.S. S3 variants being updated to Jellybean "in the coming months" was issued, it specifically mentioned "all carriers except for Sprint". Although the arrival of the Sprint update may signal that ours are just around the corner, I'm not holding my breath.

I just want to point out that Apple doesn't play by the same ruleset as Android OEM's do when it comes to releasing updates. Part of the original contract with AT&T was to prevent AT&T from having any say in Apple's updates and it kind of just kept going with the other carriers since they wanted the phone to sell so dearly.
Android OEM's have no such stipulation, Nexus devices not counting of course.

Saw on another site that AT&T wont see an update till January.
Of course that is just word of mouth, so take it for what you will.

the 4.4.X update - discussion thread

http://www.tmonews.com/2014/02/andr...alaxy-s4-s4-note-3-and-other-samsung-devices/
Today, Samsung announced that it would be pushing out KitKat to a slew of its Android-powered smartphones. Although we’re not precisely sure on specific dates for T-Mobile devices, the 4.4.2 update will be rolling out from today.
Among the list of devices being supported are the Galaxy Note 3, Galaxy S 4 and S 3 as well as others. Full press release below:
DALLAS, February 18, 2014 – Samsung Telecommunications America (Samsung Mobile) announced today that a number of Samsung Galaxy® devices will receive the Android 4.4.2 (KitKat) software update, enriching the Galaxy experience.
The upgrade provides a number of innovative, easy-to-use features that enhance the user experience, including a more intuitive user interface, enhanced messaging capabilities and updated applications:
· Location Menu: An integrated location menu enables users to easily activate GPS, Wi-Fi and mobile networks, while simultaneously checking the battery usage of apps running location service capabilities.
· Enhanced Messaging: Enables users to choose between Messages or Hangouts as their preferred default messaging application, and select from a larger assortment of updated Emoji icons.
· Upgraded Google Mobile Service™ (GMS) apps: Users can automatically back up photos and video and can open, view, rename and share Google Docs and files.
Samsung Galaxy U.S. devices currently scheduled to receive the KitKat update include select carrier variants of the Galaxy Note® 3, Galaxy Note® II, Galaxy S® 4, Galaxy S® 4 mini™, Galaxy S® 4 Active™, Galaxy S® 4 zoom™, Galaxy S® III, Galaxy S® III mini™, Galaxy Mega®, Galaxy Light, Galaxy Note® 8.0, Galaxy Tab® 3, Galaxy Note® 10.1, Galaxy Note® 10.1 2014 Edition.
Availability varies by carrier and product, with updates beginning today and continuing throughout the coming months.
If you have one of the Galaxy devices mentioned in the announcement, be sure to let us know when/if the update lands. T-Mobile isn’t always speedy when it comes to giving the green light to software updates on Android. Let’s hope these start to land pretty snappish.

Nice. going to have to Odin back to stock then.

Still months away
TWEAKED 2.0 NOTE 3

Dattack said:
Nice. going to have to Odin back to stock then.
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Don't update, the bootloader might be locked. It best to wait for a dev to get a hold of the firmware and make it into a flashable rom that doesn't include the bootloader.

marcoxx626 said:
Don't update, the bootloader might be locked. It best to wait for a dev to get a hold of the firmware and make it into a flashable rom that doesn't include the bootloader.
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I am used to waiting to take updates being on VZW and what they did with breaking root with the Bionic and then the S4 fiasco. But why would Tmobile launch a phone with an unlocked bootloader only to lock it after an OTA update? It's one thing to patch an exploit, but to lock an unlocked bootloader when it was meant to launch unlocked I think would be stange. Again, I'm waiting anyway, but I think the phone will stay unlocked.

Not sure how excited I am for 4.4.2
No app ops. I can't believe google would intentionally remove a vital security feature. I guess we'll just have to add it back in

cun7 said:
Not sure how excited I am for 4.4.2
No app ops. I can't believe google would intentionally remove a vital security feature. I guess we'll just have to add it back in
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I agree! In fact, that's the first thing I thought about when I heard about the news.
We do, however, still have xPrivacy, though. I've donated to the developer and hopefully we'll see continued development including, I hope, a more user-friendly system closer to the way App Ops works. (For the record, I'm not knocking xProvacy; rather I'm pointing out that it could be easier to manage for laymen like myself.)

Eric214 said:
I am used to waiting to take updates being on VZW and what they did with breaking root with the Bionic and then the S4 fiasco. But why would Tmobile launch a phone with an unlocked bootloader only to lock it after an OTA update? It's one thing to patch an exploit, but to lock an unlocked bootloader when it was meant to launch unlocked I think would be stange. Again, I'm waiting anyway, but I think the phone will stay unlocked.
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i'm guessing you are right. But you have to remember, it's not TMO that's doing it. It's all part of Sammy Knox initiative to make the phones more secure. If you have an unlocked bootloader, there's no way to say that your product is secure. We've picked apart the last 3 builds /na6/na7/nb3 of kitkat from germany, and there's alot of pointless crap built into these roms that will have to be pulled out to , along with the regular developmental crap that sammy puts in there for "Future Updates" Like fingerprints scanner perms and instructions, radios that will never be used, and something pointing to a backup antennae even though the phone does not have one (that's for the note 10.1)
I think they are being lazy, , making one huge TW Rom and then modifying it for individual devices. If you look at the S4 release and the Note 3 release, they are identical builds minus screen size settings and the addition of spen support.

Any idea when the TMobile update will be available? Sprint customers are getting theirs from today.

Some people from g+ are claiming to get the Sprint updates yesterday. Wonder if someone from TMO got updated too.

There is a complete silence regarding Tmobile update. Even the dog slow at&t has a leaked version out.

Apparently us cellular is getting their update as well.
Here's the link if any one is curious.
http://phandroid.com/2014/02/20/us-cellular-note-3-kitkat/
I hope we're next
posted while using my note 3

I've have been with tmo from the beginning of this computer like smart phone generation, and I will say we are almost always the last to get an update. .. Our wifi calling and wifi alone had a bug for 6 months now no update when other carriers got the fix. .. Just saying. ...
Evertime there's an update these discussions happen. ... When when when. .. sit back relax and flash someone else's rom. ... lol
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Call it eye-Kat. Make it look exactly like iOS and give Apple the finger
Sent from another galaxy

Check this out guys. Got it from comments on this article:
http://www.tmonews.com/2014/02/andr...alaxy-s4-s4-note-3-and-other-samsung-devices/
I'm on a KK custom ROM on my Note 3 so I'm not getting it. Maybe I need to flash back to stock. I'm in TX too btw.

djtheraven said:
I've have been with tmo from the beginning of this computer like smart phone generation, and I will say we are almost always the last to get an update. .. Our wifi calling and wifi alone had a bug for 6 months now no update when other carriers got the fix. .. Just saying. ...
Evertime there's an update these discussions happen. ... When when when. .. sit back relax and flash someone else's rom. ... lol
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IKR, the wifi bug is pissing me off!
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marcoxx626 said:
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Apparently using Mobile Odin you can flash the update with rootkeeper and you keep Knox at 0x0 and get a rooted 4.4.2 (make sure you set it to reboot into download to flash the bootloader)
Details are in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49502152
I wish T-Mobile would herry the heck up!!!!

dragonstalker said:
i'm guessing you are right. But you have to remember, it's not TMO that's doing it. It's all part of Sammy Knox initiative to make the phones more secure. If you have an unlocked bootloader, there's no way to say that your product is secure. We've picked apart the last 3 builds /na6/na7/nb3 of kitkat from germany, and there's alot of pointless crap built into these roms that will have to be pulled out to , along with the regular developmental crap that sammy puts in there for "Future Updates" Like fingerprints scanner perms and instructions, radios that will never be used, and something pointing to a backup antennae even though the phone does not have one (that's for the note 10.1)
I think they are being lazy, , making one huge TW Rom and then modifying it for individual devices. If you look at the S4 release and the Note 3 release, they are identical builds minus screen size settings and the addition of spen support.
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Yeah i can see where you're coming from. but I still don't think Sammy will lock it down, but we'll see.

TMO is busy now with their "marketing campaign" to attract new customers.. They have no time to do software updates for existing customers
Come on peeps cut them some slack

daraj said:
TMO is busy now with their "marketing campaign" to attract new customers.. They have no time to do software updates for existing customers
Come on peeps cut them some slack
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This is what I was afraid of when switching to TMO. Yeah I save money but at the cost of crappy CS service and very very slow to non-existant updates.
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