I just picked up a Galaxy S Glide (Roger's version of the Captivate Glide) today, and the Sales Rep. insisted that the phone was going to get ICS. I'm just wondering if anyone knows if anything 'official' has been said on the subject?
Or, worst case, I've rooted it already (and installed the 1.2ghz oc'd kernel), so is anyone working on a custom ICS ROM?
Thanks!
There is already a discussion about this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441738
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Samsung, like Moto and a few ithers, has already broken their Google Alliance agreement to keep recent phones updated, and the Glide was conspicuously absent from their list of phones confirmed to be getting updates. Engadget updates a list of phones getting ICS. Check it out here: http://www.engadget.com/updates/which-devices-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
The sales Rep, like most phone sales reps (in my experience) completely lied to your face. That doesn't mean it's not coming, but it means Samsung is being non-committal and the outcome is likely going to depend on how successful the Glide is.
As for homebrew, it bears mentioning that, unlike going from Eclair to Froyo, or Froyo to Gingerbread, ICS represents a major change in the Android framework, such that it breaks compatibility with old drivers, and it requires a lot more low-level work to update. This is why you see manufacturers being comparatively stingy with updates this time. While a homebrew ROM is not an impossibility, it's going to be more difficult than usual, and there's a much greater chance that certain things won't work because of the lack of available drivers.
I'll be honest, I really wanted a Glide. I love hard keyboards and it seemed like the best slider on the market. But I got a Galaxy S II Skyrocket instead, specifically because of the Ice Cream Sandwich issue. It's really kind of a bad time to be buying an Android phone because so many are going to get left behind, and it's such a massive, important upgrade.
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Samsung, like Moto and a few ithers, has already broken their Google Alliance agreement to keep recent phones updated, and the Glide was conspicuously absent from their list of phones confirmed to be getting updates. Engadget updates a list of phones getting ICS. Check it out here: http://www.engadget.com/updates/which-devices-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
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They also never said they wouldn't bring ICS to the Glide unlike the Captivate and the Galaxy S.
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They also never said they wouldn't bring ICS to the Glide unlike the Captivate and the Galaxy S.
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Right, which means it's likely going to depend on a few factors that are yet unclear, like how well the phone sells and whether or not carriers want to pay for the update. (AT&T is the WORST when it comes to updates though, so I'm hoping Rogers pulls their weight here).
It's a big question mark right now. The hardware is more than up to the task, and it really should get it, but Samsung and AT&T are both pretty bummy in this department and I wouldn't take anything for granted.
Like I said, if I thought it was a lock, I'd be a Glide owner right now. I really miss that keyboard, it's a great little phone.
ICS 4.0.3!!
I was using AnTuTu benchmarking.. and found this entry..
Looks like someone is working with Android 4.0.3 with an OC'd Glide
I want that phone
What do we need for Android 4 on our phones? >_<
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The sales Rep, like most phone sales reps (in my experience) completely lied to your face. That doesn't mean it's not coming, but it means Samsung is being non-committal and the outcome is likely going to depend on how successful the Glide is.
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I don't necessarily believe he lied, at least deliberately.
When my wife and I went to look at it in a local store, they didn't carry it there. However one of the sales reps actually owned it, and let us look at his. I explicitly asked him if it was upgradeable to ICS, and he said yes.
I see no reason for him to lie, knowing ahead of time he's not getting a sale from us on that phone.
EDIT: However that doesn't mean Samsung won't just say no anyway. However since this is a brand new device, I'd say no news is good news. Especially since they never explicitly said it wasn't going to be released.
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Aren't we like behind the times with froyo?
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Really?! I never would've thought it.
I guess you'd better get started developing it.
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I was just asking, I'm no developer, but I have seen other devices with it, I apologize if I offended you or interupted your texting
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You obviously missed my point. Your question was akin to telling people standing in the rain that it's raining. We all know our phone is running an outdated OS, that's why the current CM7 port is under way.
and don't worry, there won't be a release after gingerbread in a while because google is making sure that some fragmentation is going to be removed, which will allow manufacturers to catch up to the google release cycle
I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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I'm not so sure.. And while I was interested in getting 2.2, i've been running that since December. While 2.3 is the latest, I don't believe it offers much of an improvement over 2.2, so other than just saying I'm running 2.3, I don't know what the big deal is, maybe someone can enlighten me and make me anxious for 2.3?
With that said, my guess is most people will be happy with 2.3 for all of about a week. Then they will be wanting something else for their pathetic lives.
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GPU acceleration in certain parts of the OS, improved JIT, better battery, need I say more?
And there wouldn't be anything to ask for if Samsung had anything other than piss poor software.
I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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I thought only the Nexus phones had Gingerbread so far.
If I'm correct, then we're not really behind - the developer phones are just ahead as I'd expect them to be.
If I'm wrong, then I'm an idiot as I expect me to be.
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All of Sony's new Xperia phones have Gbread, though they're only released in Europe, not to mention the Gbread roms leaked for thr Droid 2/X, but so far only the NEXUS's have official Gbread in the U.S.
Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Oh okay thanks for that. I had no idea what the Xperias were running.
I still don't think we're actually behind. Every mid level and up phone having Gingerbread while we don't...THAT'S behind.
Of course we're not bleeding edge, but we never were.
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Just the fact that we are even uncertain about Gbread in the future is a problem. Even LG (a no name as far as Android is concerned) has promised a Gbread update for its Optimus 1 (a phone selling for between FREE an $50 on contract)
Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official gingerbread on our phones than it took google to make it
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Gingerbread really
And from samsung too
Be serious
Did you know it took nearly twice the amount of time for samsung to release official Froyo on our phones than it took google to make it
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My OCD wouldn't let me go without fixing it.
In all fairness, we are not the only smartphone left out in the rain.
From a markting perspective, it sells new phones. This isn't iOS with one device to focus on selling.
If all android phones had the same OS and received updates at the same time, then you would see ads selling us hardware. Most ads point out the operating system as a selling point and this is because there's too much compitition between android devices as well as those of the same manufacturer (think samsung).
It's not fair but then again how are you to convince manufacturers to stop? Google is trying by their recent policy changes, but I don't think we will see a solid standard in android OS for another few years.
The complication is furthered by production of low cost, entry level android devices that don't play well or contain the hardware to push something like GB. You need this demographic since pay as you go appears to be a growing trend.
I am hopeful for a GB release but I know that if we want something bad enough, XDA will likely to figure it out.
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Hummm..
I have builds of GB for both my Epic and EVO.
Not sure where all the fuss over no GB comes from, must be iPhone fans who get Android phones instead, wanting to remain stock for some reason
is there a beta of android 4.0 for R800x i here the beta for 4.0 is out in beta now but is there one for the R800x?
No. That's why people are still skeptical that Verizon is even working on it
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No. That's why people are still skeptical that Verizon is even working on it
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dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
Snow755 said:
dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
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Again, no... like I just said people don't know about Verizon's progress
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dos any one on here no if Verizon is working on it????????
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How about you wait until the official release for the R800i/a/at is released, then ask Verizon
i can only hope and pray that verizon has it working...i'm not holding my breath though, figure it will be sometime in may before we hear anything from big red
If I am not mistaken, Verizon has pretty much told us to go get bent. They will not be doing any more updates for the r800x.
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If I am not mistaken, Verizon has pretty much told us to go get bent. They will not be doing any more updates for the r800x.
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I was at the Verizon store last night and they had 4 xperia plays on display. Had not been in there in months and was surprised to see they still had it........ not saying that due to this they will make the update. But just saying surprised they still offer it as they obviously couldn't give a sh!t about this device (or any of their devices in general)
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I was at the Verizon store last night and they had 4 xperia plays on display. Had not been in there in months and was surprised to see they still had it........ not saying that due to this they will make the update. But just saying surprised they still offer it as they obviously couldn't give a sh!t about this device (or any of their devices in general)
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Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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I was implying, maybe didnt word it very well, but I was implying they do not give a monkeys butt about their phones unless its shiny and new. I agree with you. I have been with VZ for a year and I am not happy with them. In another year I will jump ship. Also, I rooted my phone and deleted all the Vcast apps, rebooted and now the android market shows up in the games laumcher instead of the Vcast.... hate vcast
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Since when has VZW given a **** about _ANY_ of their phones after a period of 2 months of launch? Seriously 95% of the time their advice is Full Reset, Exchange the handset for a same-model refurb, or buy a new shiny handset. They aren't their to support any of these devices, they are there to make money shoveling as many devices in as many brackets as possible. This is why they have these periods of exclusivity for launches. Which is why the Galaxy Nexus got delayed for about 1-2 months on VZW versus _ALL OTHER LAUNCH NETWORKS WORLDWIDE_.
I don't expect VZW to ever put out an update to r800x. We are stuck on 2.3.3, which breaks the compatability for any purchased PS games bought on the market. On top of that, they don't support purchases that are made through their crappy software store (VZWapps) and often charge premium prices for apps that are free on Market. They hijacked the normal Xperia Launcher to only work with VZWapps, and blocked out the functionality of numerous other things (unless you root and modify numerous things).
VZW doesn't care anything but about making money off of you. If any of them are telling you otherwise, it is just PR speak that they are told to say.
(Yes I'm a cynical, bitter person, but I still like VZW better than AT&T)
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Ah, my friend, there is nothing bitter about the truth.
No, but I heard that SE is working on a separate release of 4.0 just for R8800x. Will Verizon roll it out? Hell no.
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No, but I heard that SE is working on a separate release of 4.0 just for R8800x. Will Verizon roll it out? Hell no.
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Couldn't they just finish that up and release a compatible *.ftf file for those interested? Instead of just tossing out all that work?
You all do realize that it is still only February, right? Android 4.0 release date was slated for a "POSSIBLE" release sometime in March or April. How about waiting until the end of April and seeing how that goes for the other models of the Play before you start complaining. In fact, in view of Verizon's slowness to adopt new updates, I wouldn't lose hope until the end of 2012.
If you have the luxury of an unlocked bootloader, I suggest using CM7.2 from FreeXperia. They are currently working on porting 4.0 to the R800 family, and it's going well from what I've heard.
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Couldn't they just finish that up and release a compatible *.ftf file for those interested? Instead of just tossing out all that work?
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We are talking about Verizon here. They don't approve anything until it's perfect. Don't see why they couldn't release a beta, and then do updates.
Verizon... and perfect releases? Dude, what have you been smokin'? I've had 4 Androids, a Blackberry and I can't even remember how many "feature phones"... and none of them could EVER qualify as perfect, no matter how many updates they released. The Play has been the closest, and it's not perfect by any means.
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Verizon... and perfect releases? Dude, what have you been smokin'? I've had 4 Androids, a Blackberry and I can't even remember how many "feature phones"... and none of them could EVER qualify as perfect, no matter how many updates they released. The Play has been the closest, and it's not perfect by any means.
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I think he means perfect by "VZW stardards" (bloated and neutered to virtually unusable proportions).
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I've been with Verizon since 2007 & they haven't supported any phone beyond release. They've pissed me off thoroughly with the lack of releases for the Samsung Fascinate (gone due to piss poor performance) & the R800x. I hate this whole dodgy BS that seems to keep perpetuating beyond the normal. Next phone I get will probably be a flagship phone, since I know that it will get huge support from the dev community. This is completely insane & I'm getting pissed off with the general lack of community support (with a few exceptions but not many like the GSM models) for the R800x since VZW has abandoned us as well.
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I've been with Verizon since 2007 & they haven't supported any phone beyond release. They've pissed me off thoroughly with the lack of releases for the Samsung Fascinate (gone due to piss poor performance) & the R800x. I hate this whole dodgy BS that seems to keep perpetuating beyond the normal. Next phone I get will probably be a flagship phone, since I know that it will get huge support from the dev community. This is completely insane & I'm getting pissed off with the general lack of community support (with a few exceptions but not many like the GSM models) for the R800x since VZW has abandoned us as well.
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Remember that the biggest reason that this phone didn't sell well was the lack of support in the first place. That means that there are fewer of our phones in use than a lot of others, and we have few dev's because of that.
So now that the official ICS leak has been out for a little while now, anybody want to take a guess as to when we'll get an actual, true official update for our phones (AT&T and Rogers both)?
I'm especially curious now that the Galaxy Tab 8.9 received it's update just today, and in all honesty, I'm sure many have forgotten about said tablet. If that tablet has the update now, our phones shouldn't be far behind no?
Sure I could root, etc. and get the leak onto my phone, but unfortunately, I have to use my phone for work via Good for Enterprise which detects root...not fun. It's supposedly possible to trick the app by doing some file manipulation (renaming su and such), but on a daily basis that becomes too much of a pain especially since I can be on call many nights.
So any thoughts? My guess: early September...only because of the fact the Galaxy Tab 8.9 just got the update today and IFA is today as well and they could potentially announce more dates for ICS updates.
I don't think Rogers gives a rat's behind on the glide. At launch it was $149 on a 3 yr, then two weeks later it was 0.99 on a 3 year where it has stayed since. Not sure it they still have it online.
I don't think they will release the ICS update for it.
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So now that the official ICS leak has been out for a little while now, anybody want to take a guess as to when we'll get an actual, true official update for our phones (AT&T and Rogers both)?
I'm especially curious now that the Galaxy Tab 8.9 received it's update just today, and in all honesty, I'm sure many have forgotten about said tablet. If that tablet has the update now, our phones shouldn't be far behind no?
Sure I could root, etc. and get the leak onto my phone, but unfortunately, I have to use my phone for work via Good for Enterprise which detects root...not fun. It's supposedly possible to trick the app by doing some file manipulation (renaming su and such), but on a daily basis that becomes too much of a pain especially since I can be on call many nights.
So any thoughts? My guess: early September...only because of the fact the Galaxy Tab 8.9 just got the update today and IFA is today as well and they could potentially announce more dates for ICS updates.
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Go ahead and root it. You can install all you want and then use the app 'hide my root' to hide the root and get your office mail working. For me this works with Airwatch and good for enterprise should also get tricked. Give it a try anyway or restore your nandroid backup if it doesn't work.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung's recent loss against Apple will push back an official release even though we have a near complete leaked ROM. Samsung now has to release more stock-like ROMs to a lot of devices all at once, which is a big job for any company. The Glide gets very little love as it is so it might be a while. Hope I'm wrong.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/28/samsung-smartphone-ban-response-apple-patent-trial/
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I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung's recent loss against Apple will push back an official release even though we have a near complete leaked ROM. Samsung now has to release more stock-like ROMs to a lot of devices all at once, which is a big job for any company. The Glide gets very little love as it is so it might be a while. Hope I'm wrong.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/08/28/samsung-smartphone-ban-response-apple-patent-trial/
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I hope you're wrong too; however, Samsung is appealing the ruling and had a counter-suit already pending (which may have been updated since this verdict). So I don't expect things to change right away either. Expect the bickering to continue for a while, with a possible slight hit to consumers on the Android side of things.
I just don't expect an ICS update be delayed because of this. Heck, Samsung just announced the Galaxy Note II, Galaxy Camera, etc. at IFA so clearly at this stage, it's business as usual for the most part.
I think its up to att to release it now...?
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I hope you're wrong too; however, Samsung is appealing the ruling and had a counter-suit already pending (which may have been updated since this verdict). So I don't expect things to change right away either. Expect the bickering to continue for a while, with a possible slight hit to consumers on the Android side of things.
I just don't expect an ICS update be delayed because of this. Heck, Samsung just announced the Galaxy Note II, Galaxy Camera, etc. at IFA so clearly at this stage, it's business as usual for the most part.
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Until their appeal goes to court, does that mean they can't push anything that was deemed patent-infringing? I think most of the stuff in the case was related to TouchWiz (out of like 100+ patents disputed though). Say the case never happened and we were supposed to get an ICS release this week, are they legally not allowed to release it now until they either change it or win an appeal?
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Sure I could root, etc. and get the leak onto my phone, but unfortunately, I have to use my phone for work via Good for Enterprise which detects root...not fun. It's supposedly possible to trick the app by doing some file manipulation (renaming su and such), but on a daily basis that becomes too much of a pain especially since I can be on call many nights.
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The ICS leak doesn't require root at all, just boot into download mode and run the .exe from your PC. It installs the AT&t unrooted ICS, which shouldn't give you any problems with your work.
On top of that, you can flash CWM Recovery and remove any bloatware in recovery, while keeping your actual rom unrooted and safe for work usage.
Regarding the law suits:
Apple wants eight Samsung smartphones banned.
They are the Galaxy S 4G, Galaxy S2 AT&T model, Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, Galaxy S2 T-Mobile model, Galaxy S2 Epic 4G, Galaxy S Showcase, Droid Charge and Galaxy Prevail.
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Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19407521
It doesn't mention the Glide specifically, so that's good. But things could still be pushed back a little. I'm guessing a September release. Samsung has everything to gain by creating more brand-value, and one way to do so is sticking to its promises.
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Regarding the law suits:
It doesn't mention the Glide specifically, so that's good. But things could still be pushed back a little. I'm guessing a September release. Samsung has everything to gain by creating more brand-value, and one way to do so is sticking to its promises.
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What I find funny is the fact that the Galaxy Precedent from straight talk is exactly the same as the Galaxy Prevail just different carriers. So why isn't the Precedent on that ban list? Apple is just going to court over everything now. It doesn't make any sense. (Had to delete your link due to me not having 10 posts.)
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new firmware update the precursor to ICS?
Today I went through the daily ritual of checking the Samsung Kies program for an ICS update and there was a firmware update listed for my Captivate Glide! I can't tell what it is but if it's not ICS could it be the update that comes right before ICS?
This is what is listed in Kies: New update - PDA:LH2 / Phone:LH2 / CSC:LH2 (ATT)
If anyone knows what this is please let me know and do you know if it relates to the long-awaited ICS update?
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I guess today
AT&T Free Msg: Samsung Captivate Glide upgrade to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich is now available! The OS update supports enhanced performance, user interface and other device improvements. Open the link from your PC (not your phone), and follow the instructions: www.samsung.com/us/attcaptivateglide/update
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So the International unlocked version got their Jelly Bean update today. Man! Why doesn't Sammy hire some of these devs on here to speed up the freaking process!!
Edit: Sorry Sammy its not your fault its the freaking carriers!! Bastards!!! thanks Andy!
Edit again: OK Sammy im putting you back in the crap house!!! bastards!!! thanks intub8!
White Hot! GS3.
blame the carriers.
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blame the carriers.
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Its not Sammy...definitely the money grubbing carriers in the US...its pathetic
Oh I see thanks for sharing! Will change OP freaking carriers!!!! Lol.....
White Hot! GS3.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Samsung is not innocent. Blame them also. Samsung can easily say no to the major carriers and push the update to us through kies. We will not get the update until 30-60 days after the next flagship device from att. All of the iphone update come directly from apple. The carriers have no say.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
I honestly don't understand how Samsung, the biggest mobile phone producer in the world, allows carriers to call the shots. As you've mentioned, Apple doesn't allow the carriers to have any input in OS updates. Samsung has just as much clout - what's stopping them from doing the same?
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Ditto. Another post that was moved to the Q&A section mentioned that there are already three AT&T leaks in existence. AT&T is probably too busy ensuring that their bloatware is compatible with the ROMs, I mean, testing them.
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Three leaks? I haven't seen them for download anywhere.
This is getting ridiculous.
just use a custom rom!
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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And I suppose Apple doesn't care about profit margins?
In all honesty, I can't say I disagree. Apple pretty much gave the carriers the finger by strictly controlling what's included in the updates and their release timeline. My biggest frustration with Android is the complete lack of uniformity when it comes to keeping it up to date. With that being said, I would sooner switch to Windows than iOS.
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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All Samsung cares about is profit margins. Where as Apple is also really strict with what goes into their phones. Flame away, but that's the truth.
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Wut? Samsung has slimmer margins than Apple does. By a LONG shot.
Also, Apple doesn't let carriers control updates, but the carriers do significantly control what is going in to each update (primarily in terms of what features are enabled for use when). They still don't have a gold paved road.
That being said, I do wish Samsung would force the carriers to a better update schedule. I wouldn't care if it was consistently a month after the international version. That would be better than what we have now.
andy2na said:
blame the carriers.
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I spoke to an ATT rep on chat and they said that they were the ones holding up the release. Doesn't seem like they care what with the disabling of google wallet as well.
kgbkny said:
With regards to custom ROMs....not really my thing anymore. There is always something that doesn't function properly, which is why I'd rather have the official release. I used to be a flashaholic when I had the Vibrant and the MT4G, even the Sensation (to some extent). Nowadays, I tend to favor the official releases, even if it's a leak.
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I kinda agree as I did the same with my S1 i9000 : flashed ROMs and kernels onto it on a weekly basis for nearly 1½ year.
Now that I have my S3, I just don't feel like that anymore as I :
- Appreciate the quality and stability of Samsung's releases
- Enjoy using the best camera app there is
- Know that the phone will eventually be updated to an even better release
However, the day I'll be told by Samsung that my S3 will no longer be elligible to upgrades, just watch me go back to my custom ROMs flashing habits! héhéhé
As for the bloatware ... root and any decent file explorer can help you get rid of it!
I thought most people knew by now that only Official Google devices get (somewhat) prompt updates. I didn't buy my SIII based on what it was going to get, I bought it based on what it already had. IMO as long as they update the phone in a relatively timely manner (within 6 months I'd say) then I am content - even then I wouldn't be too upset. I would just flash something myself.
I do the same. Take official firmware and basically make my own custom rom.
That way I have control about what is and isnt done.
I root it..
remove bloatware myself with root explorer (after copying everything I am about to remove to my external sd for safe keeping)
keep copies of the build.prop, framework-res systemui etc.
I modify the systemui for my own icons etc.
Install other modes etc.
As for leaks the only leak I know off on AT&T based is LH1 which I am running.
I am not running the latest lh9 as lh1 has everything that lh9 has but doesnt have nfc screwed up so wallet still works with it.
I am running the lh9 modem.
By the time the S3 will become ineligible for updates, I will have moved on to my next phone. Back in 2011, Google set up an Android update alliance, where many manufacturers and U.S.-based carriers promised that new Android phones would receive timely OS updates for 18 months after launch. The only timely thing about this promise was the death of this alliance. After Jellybean, I give the S3 one more update before Samsung declares it non-upgradeable. It's unfortunate, but that's just the nature of the beast.
I'm well aware that only official Google devices (Nexus) get timely updates. This is the only reason why I held on to my Galaxy Nexus after buying the S3. I was well aware that it'll be a loooooooooong time before the S3 sees an update, so I kept the Nexus to satisfy my cravings for latest Android versions.
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
jmacdonald19 said:
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/24/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-rollout-starts-october-25th/
Funny how I left Sprint and my S3 to come to AT&T and get an S3. Surely we won't be too much further behind if Sprint is releasing it? Maybe? Bueller?
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Good find! When the initial Samsung statement regarding the U.S. S3 variants being updated to Jellybean "in the coming months" was issued, it specifically mentioned "all carriers except for Sprint". Although the arrival of the Sprint update may signal that ours are just around the corner, I'm not holding my breath.
I just want to point out that Apple doesn't play by the same ruleset as Android OEM's do when it comes to releasing updates. Part of the original contract with AT&T was to prevent AT&T from having any say in Apple's updates and it kind of just kept going with the other carriers since they wanted the phone to sell so dearly.
Android OEM's have no such stipulation, Nexus devices not counting of course.
Saw on another site that AT&T wont see an update till January.
Of course that is just word of mouth, so take it for what you will.
I recently brought the Galaxy S2 from Straight Talk. And, I thought that it was on ICS already. But, its still running GB. I've been flashing, and testing roms on the sly for a while for my previous phones. HTC Droid Eris, HTC Evo 4G Design, Motorola Defy. And, I know there are different models of certain phones. I hadn't realized until I purchased the phone, and looked at the model number that it was different from the mainstream S2 models. I figured that it wouldn't be a factor since in my mind. Just about all S2 no matter the model number are the same. I was wrong.
In my search for anything about this model. I have came to many consumers who brought this phone that was looking for custom roms. That there aren't any custom roms for it, or CWM Recovery. And, we're stuck with this great phone, and crap stock. I know myself, and many people who own this phone either is just sticking with stock, or on the hunt.
So as the topic of this forum thread indicates. Is any devs going to port over CWM or some Roms for this model? If there is can anyone steer me to it.
After all the reading, poking, prodding (and praying) that I've done, I don't think it's going to happen and if it does, not any time soon. There's no incentive. Straight Talk isn't going to sell many of these phones - it's expensive, which means it's not targeted toward the people who use their service the most - and with the incredibly small install base, there's just no reason for anybody to spend the time and the effort preparing a stock ROM.
There's no stock firmware for ANY Straight Talk device as far as I can tell. SamMobile has stock firmware for every Samsung device EXCEPT for Straight Talk/TracFone's devices.
I'm still holding out hope because like you I think it's retarded that this device shipped with Gingerbread when the physically identical AT&T model shipped with Ice Cream Sandwich.
Att galaxy s2 shipped with gb as well. Maybe now they are updated.
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After all the reading, poking, prodding (and praying) that I've done, I don't think it's going to happen and if it does, not any time soon. There's no incentive. Straight Talk isn't going to sell many of these phones - it's expensive, which means it's not targeted toward the people who use their service the most - and with the incredibly small install base, there's just no reason for anybody to spend the time and the effort preparing a stock ROM.
There's no stock firmware for ANY Straight Talk device as far as I can tell. SamMobile has stock firmware for every Samsung device EXCEPT for Straight Talk/TracFone's devices.
I'm still holding out hope because like you I think it's retarded that this device shipped with Gingerbread when the physically identical AT&T model shipped with Ice Cream Sandwich.
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From what I've searched up, there are alot of people who brought this phone for the reason it was a S2 on a prepaid company. I mean thats the reason I brought one. I guess that this model hasn't fallen into the right hands yet.
patrao_n said:
Att galaxy s2 shipped with gb as well. Maybe now they are updated.
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I've read that Samsung and Straight Talk don't plan on updating this phone to ICS or JB. Its one of those as is phones. Which sucks because it can do so much better than what Straight Talk is allowing it to do. This model doesn't even sync with Kies. Straight Talk locked this phone DOWN majorly. And, that sucks cause Boost Mobile has a version too, and it has custom ROMs out for it, and everything.