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I have received a surprising number of PMs in response to my App thread [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973921] from newbies who say they are PMing because they are unable to reply to threads. One even said he couldn't post till he had 10 posts (how the heck could he get 10 posts if he can't post?). I thought newbies couldn't post links for a certain period or number of posts... but I have slept since then and the site has changed some.
What gives? I read the FAQ and all I found was that in most forums you have to be a registered member to reply or post new topics. Are these newbies just mistaken about the rules, if so is there some way to better explain the posting rules?
Pop45398 said:
I have received a surprising number of PMs in response to my App thread [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973921] from newbies who say they are PMing because they are unable to reply to threads. One even said he couldn't post till he had 10 posts (how the heck could he get 10 posts if he can't post?). I thought newbies couldn't post links for a certain period or number of posts... but I have slept since then and the site has changed some.
What gives? I read the FAQ and all I found was that in most forums you have to be a registered member to reply or post new topics. Are these newbies just mistaken about the rules, if so is there some way to better explain the posting rules?
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We have an informative notice to users when they try to do this.
New users (<10 posts) can't post in development areas. What you could do, is make a "support" thread outwith development. The problem was that we were getting thousands of pointless posts from people in development areas, causing endless trouble in moving them and dealing with the flaming that continued...
Once they have 10 posts outwith development areas, they can post in dev forums within 1 hour of that time. A support thread outwith that section, with a prominant link in the first post might help, and it's the method I will be using myself.
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Thanks, that certainly explains it... great suggestion.
pulser_g2 said:
We have an informative notice to users when they try to do this.
New users (<10 posts) can't post in development areas. What you could do, is make a "support" thread outwith development. The problem was that we were getting thousands of pointless posts from people in development areas, causing endless trouble in moving them and dealing with the flaming that continued...
Once they have 10 posts outwith development areas, they can post in dev forums within 1 hour of that time. A support thread outwith that section, with a prominant link in the first post might help, and it's the method I will be using myself.
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Thanks for the explantion, though it's really annoying, never mind counting this one XD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14995900#post14995900
it's frustrated...
Thx, logical explanation
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Must follow the rules, thank you.
I have the same issue and found out about the 10 posts rule, yet something confused me, a "new member" (Labeled as Junior Member" was able to post in the development area for a Rom thread with only having >5 posts. I saw two posts of his in this thread and he only had total of 4 posts...I tried to post in the same thread and wasn't allowed to because i have fewer than 10 post...oh and his post is only a day or two old.. what gives??
noted ...sir
This stupid rule forces me too post in pointless threads for me. It's just too much hassle to post in threads you really don't care about just to be able to post in your desired development thread.
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SharkDog2 said:
This stupid rule forces me too post in pointless threads for me. It's just too much hassle to post in threads you really don't care about just to be able to post in your desired development thread.
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The recommended way is to post in Q&A instead of development, and I tried it. Obviously no one from the development thread is going to be informed of my post automagically, so I went on contacting the kernel dev, leading to the same situation as the OP, meaning an unwanted PM to a busy dev...
Yeah I don't want to keep bugging deva through pm. Only reason for me to post in other threads.
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I submitted a post misspelled something wanted to edit and It won't let me submit the edited post. Wtf?
tolymatev said:
I submitted a post misspelled something wanted to edit and It won't let me submit the edited post. Wtf?
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Ha that's weird, I could edit my first post to fix a broken link. Can you link to your immutable post?
SharkDog2 said:
Yeah I don't want to keep bugging deva through pm. Only reason for me to post in other threads.
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I perfectly agree with you, sir, and find the present thread particularly handy in that respect. Of course, I would never post anything just for the sake of reaching a post count of 10, but it appears that light conversation about the ins and outs and philosophy of the XDA rules does help towards that goal, isn't it wonderful?
And hooooo didn't I just discover another thoughtful anti-noob restriction ? It appears that, in order to increase my verbia... to increase the quality, grammar and punctuation of posts, and more importantly, to avoid easy mass spamming, XDA requires non-mod-approved users to wait a total of five minutes between two posts. Specifically, the following message appears:
To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
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(HA, yes, I admit that I am just training to use the quote function here, and that the above snippet of text does not bring much to the conversation, but eh, isn't it a positive side effect of the anti-noob-spam rule, that I get to train proper formatting of posts?)
agravier said:
Ha that's weird, I could edit my first post to fix a broken link. Can you link to your immutable post?
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I'm using the xda app right now. Its not a big deal but its frustrating ...... and guess what guys this should be my 10th post. This f'ed up rule got me counting my posts lol.. I should get unleashed after this right?
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tolymatev said:
I'm using the xda app right now. Its not a big deal but its frustrating ...... and guess what guys this should be my 10th post. This f'ed up rule got me counting my posts lol.. I should get unleashed after this right?
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So it's a limitation of new posters when using the XDA app, probably.
Yes its a limitation....by the way this is my first post.... 1/10
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Congratulations on your first post, komusic.
I shall also note that the 5 minutes between posts limitation makes that a minimum of 50 minutes is necessary for anyone to reach the infamous tenposts milestone after which the golden doors of the dev forums posting will open under our ungrateful greasy little noobish fingers. Hence, this is also a test of patience. We shall consider ourselves monks, in fact. Apprentices.
So can anyone explain why a member with >10 posts can post in the development area? The posts are recent, just yesterday and the day before
I've been following Leedroid and updating with is releases. I wanted to post that I had donated in recognition of the nice fix he did for 3.06 tonight but obviously as a lurker I've been blocked.
new members are restricted from posted in development threads until they have 10 posts.
Maybe you could PM the dev and let them know in the meantime
Well played for donating. I think the dev will appreciate the sentiment more than the money maybe, as so few give while so many leech. Welcome to the forums too btw.
Once you make 10 posts all XDA features will be automatically unlocked
aw man, a whole ten posts? ::slides in another one nonchalantly:: @[email protected]
~le poof~
Actually being a newbie myself I completely forgot about this place since it requires 10 posts in order to get into any real discussion. Why is the limit so high? I thought spam bots just do a single post then move onto the next forum? Unless there has been trouble before with bots posting in multiple forums?
The reason why 10 posts seem so high for someone new is that, well for me personally, I have to find topics where I can actually half help someone since I don't want to look like I'm spamming just to get my post count up. This is very time consuming, all I wanted to do is do a reply to a topic then lurk again until another question crops up which I can answer.
^agree with you and I also feel a bit of this 10 post count stuff.
Please see the thread "Postcount limit in developmental fora" for a full explanation on the 10 post min.
I'm a bit confused. I was wanting to post a response to this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150&page=233
... and the forum said that I couldn't post to it until I had posted 10 posts total.
However, the last person to post to this forum had only posted ONE post.
?????
Users who joined before the restriction were "grand fathered" in, allowing them to post with less than 10 posts.
Can I just mention that I think this is a silly restriction?
I've been developing code for almost 35 years, and to restrict me from posting to a developers forums until I post 10 posts in other forums is frankly ...
silly ... not to metion useless.
What's to prevent a 12-year old with TONS of time on his hands, to post 10 times in one day and circumvent your restriction.
Whereas, serious developers, like me, are interferred with and hampered.
Wow.
Tuleen Donai said:
Can I just mention that I think this is a silly restriction?
I've been developing code for almost 35 years, and to restrict me from posting to a developers forums until I post 10 posts in other forums is frankly ...
silly ... not to metion useless.
What's to prevent a 12-year old with TONS of time on his hands, to post 10 times in one day and circumvent your restriction.
Whereas, serious developers, like me, are interferred with and hampered.
Wow.
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My friend, this has been covered time and time (and time) again. If you've developed code for thirty-something years, you have the skills and the nouse to help ten members in the Q&A thread. Then you can post in a Dev forum.
Even Linus Torvalds' first post shouldn't be in a Development forum.
I was able to post before but now restricted to post... Now I am trying to meet the requirement.
Tuleen Donai said:
I'm a bit confused. I was wanting to post a response to this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150&page=233
... and the forum said that I couldn't post to it until I had posted 10 posts total.
However, the last person to post to this forum had only posted ONE post.
?????
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Try to check your email and click on the url sent to you by the admin, to complete your registration.
oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my....
Does nobody read anything anymore....
Pick any thread in this section and theres a very high chance that it will be another "whaa whaaa whaa I can't post yet" thread...
That is why the rule is there...
I know this isn't helpful and didn't answer your question but it really has been answered so many times theres no need to do so....
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conantroutman said:
oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my....
Does nobody read anything anymore....
Pick any thread in this section and theres a very high chance that it will be another "whaa whaaa whaa I can't post yet" thread...
That is why the rule is there...
I know this isn't helpful and didn't answer your question but it really has been answered so many times theres no need to do so....
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We're fighting a losing battle, bud.
really? 10 posts restriction for all newbies? i am very new
honeydroidbirds said:
really? 10 posts restriction for all newbies? i am very new
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Yes, for the development forums. Too many new members are posting pointless questions that have been asked 100's of times before and cluttering th threads, or just posting thanks. There are Q&A forums for questions you need to ask, and maybe answer a few to get your post count up.
I have 25 posts. I STILL am forced to wait 2 minutes before I am allowed to edit a post. If I haven't proved after 25 posts that I am not a troll or a spammer, how many posts will it take?
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I have 25 posts. I STILL am forced to wait 2 minutes before I am allowed to edit a post. If I haven't proved after 25 posts that I am not a troll or a spammer, how many posts will it take?
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5 more, restrictions end on your 30th post.
BretonGirl said:
I have 25 posts. I STILL am forced to wait 2 minutes before I am allowed to edit a post. If I haven't proved after 25 posts that I am not a troll or a spammer, how many posts will it take?
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I don't understand why we have to wait 2 minutes before we're allowed to edit a post. I completely understand the 2 minute restriction on making new posts or threads but making us wait 2 minutes to fix a typo or attach more information to a post baffles me.
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I don't understand why we have to wait 2 minutes before we're allowed to edit a post. I completely understand the 2 minute restriction on making new posts or threads but making us wait 2 minutes to fix a typo or attach more information to a post baffles me.
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It is for spam control so people could not edit in links afterwards. I believe it is because the 2 minute restrictions are being applied to all junior members, and it is not possible for this attribute to be distinguished between junior members with 9 posts or 19 posts or 29 posts. Once you become a member with 30 posts, posting restrictions are lifted. It also could make people proofread a bit better before they click submit...
As a Linux / Android developer I can't answer and help in the developement forum because not enough posts! Do I really have to more stupid posts like this before I can post real?
To post here I had to log in AND use the annoying Image Verification.
Do you really have so much spam to bother real people?
pjw65 said:
As a Linux / Android developer I can't answer and help in the developement forum because not enough posts! Do I really have to more stupid posts like this before I can post real?
To post here I had to log in AND use the annoying Image Verification.
Do you really have so much spam to bother real people?
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And even harder to post another message:
To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed.
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I hope after the first 10 posts, I can really USE the forum to help others and become help and information.
I read the forum since Sep 2010 (see Join Date), but nearly every post I tried, was blocked!
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And even harder to post another message:
I hope after the first 10 posts, I can really USE the forum to help others and become help and information.
I read the forum since Sep 2010 (see Join Date), but nearly every post I tried, was blocked!
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Yea dd-wrt is a better forum for getting things done. I sent an email to xda and was told if I had asked nicely they would have lifted the 10 post limit but since I didn't he wouldn't. Its like this forum is run by a bunch of teenagers who think their sh*t don't stink....
Sounds like you ladies are mad I joined last night and had ten posts last night. Why are you whining.
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Let's assume you have experience in running a site with over 4 million accounts, and 60.000 daily visitors. Let's say it's a hot topic, like Android.
How much do you think ad companies would give to get their hands on accounts or even ad space?
The 10 post rule is there to prevent spamming and new members asking questions in development threads that are easily answered with one search action. So, the impossibility answering questions in development is the downside of this rule, but it's easily remedied if the question is an "easy one".
We are always looking to make the visit on XDA as pleasant as possible, however, the size of the forum doesn't always allow it, sadly.
mtdew said:
Sounds like you ladies are mad I joined last night and had ten posts last night. Why are you whining.
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Getting your post count up, eh. Some are here for more than ego
jd1639 said:
Getting your post count up, eh. Some are here for more than ego
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Lol oh I'm sorry what is it you bring to the table good sir aside from complaining. I got my 10 in a night no point in crying over something so simple.
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Do you really have so much spam to bother real people?
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Yes.
Thread closed.
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