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Hello all,
I have just recently purchased a HTC desire z, therfore i have become a big fan (already linux geek) of android. However with windows mobile 7 phones recently released on the market i would like to know if anyones working or done a dual boot feature on the desire series with android and windows mobile 7?
ANY help would be amazing and thanks you
Impossible. Especially since there is no WM7. Windows Phone 7 on the other hand will be difficult if anything since there is no source.
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This being said.....i have heard that iphones can now dual boot to android or Ios. Haha
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jark99 said:
This being said.....i have heard that iphones can now dual boot to android or Ios. Haha
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Yup. iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPad, iPod Touch 1G and iPod Touch 4G.
No support for my 2G Touch though
i to just got a desire z on bell and wanted to go back to wm ( been useing a 6800 for 3 years) is there a rom for that for the desire???
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Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
Lennyuk said:
Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
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I doubt that is going to stop anyone. It will just take longer.
rewen said:
I doubt that is going to stop anyone. It will just take longer.
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i just figured that sence i can put wm 6.1 or 6.5 on my treo why not on my desire????after alll it is just a operiating system on a small pc...
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joeblow_666 said:
i just figured that sence i can put wm 6.1 or 6.5 on my treo why not on my desire????after alll it is just a operiating system on a small pc...
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Doesn't the Treo have some sort of relation to a WM phone?
If anything will get WP7, it'll be the Desire HD. With it being such a close relation and all.
TheDeadCpu said:
No. No Android phone will ever have WP7.
Sendt with a HW Keyboard from my Desire Z, woop!
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This can't be true since the hardware is WP7 compatible.
My question is WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO?.
If it's to try the new OS, just go to your local dealer and play with there's for about 10 minutes, which is about how long it will take to play with all the features it comes with.
Thanks for all replies,
obviously windows mobile 7 and the desire seriers are all new products and its mostly correct that the desire hardware is compatible, this hopefully is going to be something that will be done sometime in the new year by a very clever professional programer.
so please update if you hear that someone is working on this.
the reason i want WM7 on my htc desire is because currently im iphone programming, next i will be java programming then lastly wm7 programming if all goes to plan.
The htc hd2 isnt suported for a update since it doesnt have the three hardware buttons required for wp7...im with everyone else in this thread i doubt it will get ported to android..i mean it would be nice to dual boot into wp7 but i doubt it will happen...theres not many devs for the desire z right now..well in comparison to the desire and the hero...lets just hope it may may may may happen
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I personally would like to see it happen or at least an emu, so i can watch some netflix.
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Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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haha yep. It's not a matter of, "WP7 is better than Android" or vice versa...it's just because we can =P
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Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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From what I understand, the version of WP7 that runs on the HD2 can't access any of the Live services at the moment because it hasn't got the necessary certificate. This is likely to be another barrier to this sort of thing, though I imagine someone will get over that in time.
android 22 said:
Thanks for all replies,
obviously windows mobile 7 and the desire seriers are all new products and its mostly correct that the desire hardware is compatible, this hopefully is going to be something that will be done sometime in the new year by a very clever professional programer.
so please update if you hear that someone is working on this.
the reason i want WM7 on my htc desire is because currently im iphone programming, next i will be java programming then lastly wm7 programming if all goes to plan.
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i have had various Android smart phones in the last few Years, rooted and installed MANY many m-a-n-y ROMs and launchers. I was amazed with the 'LAUNCHER7' launcher that does not require root access. How ever, it is not the genuine Windows 7 mobile, it is the closest thing to it. It even has the 'live' tiles that you see so many times.
Go to the Android market, and search for Launcher7. I don't want to sound like an advertisement, but the author has done a good job on how it looks and feels. It even has the little fly in and out animations when you select a certain tile.
I doubt anybody even wants a wp7 port to make it worth the devs time to make it. just let that junk go... like someone else said use the launcher7 or better yet buy a windows phone! I did and took it back within two hours! Maybe if u never used a smartphone u could lke it, but anyone who is used to the freedom of android could ever backstep into that poop.
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Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
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Exactly and this being said how would an Android device such as the Desire Z be able to support the Windows Mobile 7 Apps? On the other hand they have a home launcher in the market that changes your home interface to look exactly like the HTC HD7. You should check it out! Hope I helped a bit
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I personally would like to see it happen or at least an emu, so i can watch some netflix.
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I doubt if there were emulator that could emulate a windows 7 phone it would not be able to run movies or much in that matter. The processing power to emulate a WP7 phone would drastically slow down the G2 even over clocked.
If we are talking about WM6... i would kind of like to see that... but wouldn't use it as a daily driver.
I don't have any programming background nor do I get very far from simply flashing roms and whatnot.
Anyone who does understand the boot loader/technical difficulties of dual booting another os onto the galaxy nexus's hardware care to chime in?
I think this was done on the HD7? Seeing as this is the current dev friendly phone of the moment I assume this would be possible.
Thoughts?
If it happens it will be awhile I would presume. The nexus came out two months ago. And wp7 is still a fairly new platform.
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It was done on the HD2 but that was a windows mobile device that had Android shoehorned onto it..
it's illegal to put WP7 on anything it dosen't come on the HD2 was an exception as it used the same licenses as WinMo
WP7 is closed-source. It's not going to happen.
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I don't have any programming background nor do I get very far from simply flashing roms and whatnot.
Anyone who does understand the boot loader/technical difficulties of dual booting another os onto the galaxy nexus's hardware care to chime in?
I think this was done on the HD7? Seeing as this is the current dev friendly phone of the moment I assume this would be possible.
Thoughts?
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Buy a WP7 device and put your SIM in it every couple days. That's your best option
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WP7 is closed-source. It's not going to happen.
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^^^thats what I always heard when this question comes up
Don't worry
This could be interesting:
http://www.gadgetbox.msnbc.msn.com/...8-update-reportedly-coming-all-devices-721204
This is old news. He recanted his story and clarified that he was talking about backward compatibility with apps only. At the end of the article there's a link to the redaction.
win98 said:
Don't worry
This could be interesting:
http://www.gadgetbox.msnbc.msn.com/...8-update-reportedly-coming-all-devices-721204
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Did you happen to read this part of your link?
Update: The Microsoft representative quoted has clarified his remarks; he says he was in fact only referring to app back compatibility, not the new version of the operating system.
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Just a heads up. If Microsoft is going to make an announcement like that... it ain't gonna happen in Portuguese! No offense Portugal... or Brazil.
It's sad that Galaxy S3 and maybe the iPhone 5 (or whatever is called) are probably coming out the next month, and we still have no clue if Windows 8 is going to be able to run on our current devices.
I wanted to get a Lumia, but I might end getting the S3 or an iPhone.
Oh look a Windows Phone 8 concept.
http://i46.tinypic.com/sd1jr7.png
Looks nice! More dragons wouldn't hurt tho :-\
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Isn't there going to be a showing of Apollo next month?
Been using W8 on my PC and I'm definitely coming back if Apollo incorporates the better tiles.
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It's sad that Galaxy S3 and maybe the iPhone 5 (or whatever is called) are probably coming out the next month, and we still have no clue if Windows 8 is going to be able to run on our current devices.
I wanted to get a Lumia, but I might end getting the S3 or an iPhone.
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iPhone?! So because there is some uncertainty about an OS that hasn't come out yet... you are going to get a phone that hasn't come out yet?
Why don't you just wait until either the iphone 5 or WP8 compatibility are confirmed?
The rumor mill is saying October for an iphone 5 release. If that is the case there is a pretty good chance we will have some WP8 compatibility clarity by then.
Anyway I'm on contract so I had to get a phone now. There was no way I was going to wait around 6-8 months on contract for a phone. I have to upgrade ASAP to justify the monthly bill I'm paying.
vetvito said:
Isn't there going to be a showing of Apollo next month?
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There's a Windows Phone developer conference on June 20 / 21, so there's a good chance of that.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...windows-phone-developer-summit-for-june/12631
oh, damn. i read it, but not the update in the end
im sorry about that^^
vetvito said:
Isn't there going to be a showing of Apollo next month?
Been using W8 on my PC and I'm definitely coming back if Apollo incorporates the better tiles.
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Welcome back Kotter
I'm saving money to buy a WP8 new phone...
it was predictable that, older phones would not get the update :/
Does exist WM ROM for Desire Z?
No, try this if you want a similar experience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20549065
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demkantor said:
No, try this if you want a similar experience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20549065
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He meant Windows Mobile, found in HTC Diamond or Xperia X1. And no, I don't think this kind of ROMs exists. If they would exist, I would try these! I live Windows Mobile.
huh, thought window 7.x was just a step past windows 6.x
i guess windows mobile only refers to windows phones prior 2011 and the newest are just called windows phones? semantics sorry
For WM to exist on the DZ is very tough actually. To begin with, someone has to develop a bootloader for WM, and that itself is tough, because WM is closed sourced. The bootloader has to be placed in the DZ, and cracking the boot sequence of the DZ and placing it to function correctly in the DZ is more tough :/. The most tedious part is porting the drivers for it to function well. I think you might be better off with a WM phone actually haha.. the HD2 is actually the best and the last WM phone..
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huh, thought window 7.x was just a step past windows 6.x
i guess windows mobile only refers to windows phones prior 2011 and the newest are just called windows phones? semantics sorry
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Windows Mobile was discontinued in 2010 around there. Windows Phone 7 was completely rewritten based on Win CE 6, while Windows Mobile 6 was based on Win CE 5. Their completely different actually, based on coding.
Fair enough, I'll stop saying windows mobile for all windows phones I guess, never got a correction from my windows friends, thanks for the clarification
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Course my general thinking is... why would you want to? The hardware isn't designed for it and to make it work would require a lot of reverse engineering even into the most basic of things like the boot loader. Android still seems like the best fit for the likes of something like the DZ/G2. (and even if you could get it to boot, what of the camera, wifi, gps, radio, physical keyboard, SD slot, LED etc )
But the battery could stay in a week or so.
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why wm? i had a cellphone with wm but in compare with android that is not good .
Windows mobile was easily one of the worst phone OS's to be released, it was slow, unreliable and full of bugs. I had one of the last WM phones, the Sony Xperia X2 running win mobile 6.5 and it was a very unpleasant experience. The phone crashed at least once a day, using a stylus only was tedious and it used to love to hang for no apparent reason. The syncing capabilities for exchange were no better then my Nokia E71 which is why I upgraded to the X2 in the first place. Personally I could not wait to get rid of that POS.
Windows Phone on the other hand, could be fun to see on a DZ.
jessv3 said:
Windows mobile was easily one of the worst phone OS's to be released, it was slow, unreliable and full of bugs. I had one of the last WM phones, the Sony Xperia X2 running win mobile 6.5 and it was a very unpleasant experience. The phone crashed at least once a day, using a stylus only was tedious and it used to love to hang for no apparent reason. The syncing capabilities for exchange were no better then my Nokia E71 which is why I upgraded to the X2 in the first place. Personally I could not wait to get rid of that POS.
Windows Phone on the other hand, could be fun to see on a DZ.
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Xperia X2 wasn't bad, but the ROM Sony Ericsson made. On Xperia X1 it wasn't laggy.
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vaderx10minipro said:
Xperia X2 wasn't bad, but the ROM Sony Ericsson made. On Xperia X1 it wasn't laggy.
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The X2 had really nice hardware, the physical qwerty was better built then the the desire z, but the OS was such a major let down, I still think that if SE released the X2 with Eclaire or Froyo it would have been a huge success.
I think WM ins't better than android... WM has too much restrictions and is so simple..
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Course my general thinking is... why would you want to? The hardware isn't designed for it and to make it work would require a lot of reverse engineering even into the most basic of things like the boot loader. Android still seems like the best fit for the likes of something like the DZ/G2. (and even if you could get it to boot, what of the camera, wifi, gps, radio, physical keyboard, SD slot, LED etc )
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Cos my DZ is younger brother Kaiser which was best PDA ever I had - and it was Windows.
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Cos my DZ is younger brother Kaiser which was best PDA ever I had - and it was Windows.
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Huh?
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He had a Kaiser, which was a very popular winmo phone from HTC. He has fond memories and would like to recreate the experience.
lol
WM was terrible lol android is way better
It depends on which windows mobile. Before android was out i had an HTC Dash. I still say it was the best phone ive has so far. Had a blackberry style keyboard and WM5 or something like that. super durable and bug free.
there was no reason to root or mod it because it was completely open looked kind of like windows xp.
It would do anything it was fast enough to.
I remember the first time someone showed me their rooted doid. I was baffled, like you had to go through all that to be able to modify your root files. You meen to tell me you dont have access to all the files and settings on the phone that you own.
The second best, or if you never had a htc dash, The best. is the HD2.
released 2009 still goes pretty strong. They just dont make phones like that anymore. I dual boot an android rom and WP7.
You could run windows 95 or ubuntu if you wanted.
Can you install windows os on an HTC ONE M8 that has android/htc sense OS?
currently, no..who knows what the future might bring
You mean convert to HTC one w8? I bet we can soon
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A Windows Phone variant with the exact same specs is coming to T-Mobile. Duel boot has all but been confirmed.
Not sure if it is the same, I remember you always had to install windows before Linux when duel booting, the question is where there be a ROM that can be installed on the android version.
I am seriously ready to go to the store now and get the m8. My 4 month jump plan was ready a few months ago actually. The note 4 has been announced and I think "meh" sums it up. I'm just as good keeping the 3.
I don't use nor have stylus apps on my note 3, just love the specs. The ability to duel boot is something I'd leave Sammy for. There has been almost nothing about the actual process or ability to do so, but there sure is quite a few asking about its possibility.
I've spent to much to just leave android. It would be nice if someone who knew the challenges well could outline what needs to be overcome and in their opinion on how long it could be till we can duel boot.
I have the early version of the jump plan. I don't have to have half the value paid off. Every 4 months, new device, but the note... Love it. Not leaving for a windows device that is sub par. And they really all are right?
I'll be waiting!