[Q] "Android OS" Battery Life - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Well, once upon (a greater) time for my phone, the battery life was phenomenal. I would take it off the charger at 6AM, and with moderate use, still be at about 50% when I got home at around 8PM. Now, I can't even have the phone off of the charger for a few hours, because "Android OS" eats my battery. I went from 100-60 in like 3 hours off of the charger with the screen OFF.
I've had various CM9 and CM10 installs, and it seems like they're what started the bad battery life. I used Mobile ODIN to flash back to EL29, and flashed the EL29 modem .zip in CWM, and the battery life is STILL ****ty. What do you think it could be?

anchor_th said:
Well, once upon (a greater) time for my phone, the battery life was phenomenal. I would take it off the charger at 6AM, and with moderate use, still be at about 50% when I got home at around 8PM. Now, I can't even have the phone off of the charger for a few hours, because "Android OS" eats my battery. I went from 100-60 in like 3 hours off of the charger with the screen OFF.
I've had various CM9 and CM10 installs, and it seems like they're what started the bad battery life. I used Mobile ODIN to flash back to EL29, and flashed the EL29 modem .zip in CWM, and the battery life is STILL ****ty. What do you think it could be?
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A borked battery.....
Kernel issues....
Bad Modem Flash....
Bad Modem coverage....

Okay, so what can I do to LEARN what it is and fix it? I have no idea how to figure these things out.

I have found turning off all GPS options helps immensely. Maps is always waking the phone every 5 minutes.
Fun reads for you.
www.allaboutgalaxynote.com/how-to-solve-battery-issues-after-ics-update-in-your-galaxy-note/
And yes I know the above article is for the note, but it still applies.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29420959&postcount=7059
This is an awesome app for finding battery hogs. Look at the bottom of the second post for the free version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

It's not an app, so don't bother telling him to look for an app running in the background. And it's not a bad battery or modem. I ran Gingerbread for quite some time before going to ICS and Android OS should be one of the smallest consumers on that battery usage list. It only happens with ICS and JB, most likely a kernel thing. It happened to me quiiiiite a bit, in fact in the few months I've been running ICS/JB Android OS has always been on the top of the list despite my phone saying it's in deep sleep. Not sure what the deal is with it to be honest, but I don't think there's a way to fix it.

I'm on aokp and my android os is at 6% never goes over 14%. Use lightflow disable all led notifications in direct/accessibility mode and reboot let it go through a full charge cycle, wipe battery stats, profit
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MultiLockOn said:
It's not an app, so don't bother telling him to look for an app running in the background. And it's not a bad battery or modem. I ran Gingerbread for quite some time before going to ICS and Android OS should be one of the smallest consumers on that battery usage list. It only happens with ICS and JB, most likely a kernel thing. It happened to me quiiiiite a bit, in fact in the few months I've been running ICS/JB Android OS has always been on the top of the list despite my phone saying it's in deep sleep. Not sure what the deal is with it to be honest, but I don't think there's a way to fix it.
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How do you know? Do you have his phone? No, you don't. I'm on ff18 and I get 14 to 18 hours daily with 4-5 hours screen on time.
Granted I use the Kuban kernel, but it is possible to reduce Android OS usage quite easily.
he could also have a badbattery. If it is swollen that almost always indicates a bad battery.

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It's not an app, so don't bother telling him to look for an app running in the background. And it's not a bad battery or modem. I ran Gingerbread for quite some time before going to ICS and Android OS should be one of the smallest consumers on that battery usage list. It only happens with ICS and JB, most likely a kernel thing. It happened to me quiiiiite a bit, in fact in the few months I've been running ICS/JB Android OS has <b>always</b> been on the top of the list despite my phone saying it's in deep sleep. Not sure what the deal is with it to be honest, but I don't think there's a way to fix it.
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How do you know? Do you have his phone? No, you don't. I'm on ff18 and I get 14 to 18 hours daily with 4-5 hours screen on time.<br />
Granted I use the Kuban kernel, but it is possible to reduce Android OS usage quite easily.<br />
he could also have a badbattery. If it is swollen that almost always indicates a bad battery.
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Swollen battery is ALWAYS a bad battery. They swell when a cell begins to or has ruptured inside the housing and can do some serious damage if the housing bursts. At temps above 130 with a swollen battery the chance of a full housing breach goes up 70% at 160 its almost guaranteed to breach and at 180-190 it will burst causing somewhat of an explosion. Exposed batteries not sandwhiched inside a device actually produce a pretty large fireball when the burst at those temps and the housing does enough damage it could be fatal. I've burst quite a few using a hotplate and sitting the battery on it inside an acrylic aquarium and letting it heat til failure. If your battery is swollen stop use immediately and get it replaced. You can end up with serious injuries and if it bursts while you're talking on it possible death and at the minimum severe chemical and/or thermal burns :thumbdown: not fun
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What he said.

Dude download Better Battery Stats and see what's really eating up your battery.
I'm running on Phantom's ICS and I been tweaking it so much, that I want to get the best Android experience EVER!
Also try v6 Supercharger, that also helps with battery life.
try freezing some of apps that you may not use, or better yet follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29420959&postcount=7059
try editing your build.prop and turn off sync

Ravaged Pheonix said:
I have found turning off all GPS options helps immensely. Maps is always waking the phone every 5 minutes.
Fun reads for you.
www.allaboutgalaxynote.com/how-to-solve-battery-issues-after-ics-update-in-your-galaxy-note/
And yes I know the above article is for the note, but it still applies.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29420959&postcount=7059
This is an awesome app for finding battery hogs. Look at the bottom of the second post for the free version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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I am so incredibly happy! I haven't had time to go through all the info in the links you posted, but instead took the cheap and easy way out and simply froze Google Maps using Titanium Backup. My battery life was awesome today!!!! It could still use improvement, but I finally feel like I'm making significant progress. Yes, I'll go through the posts you linked more thoroughly when I have time and I'll work on disabling maps in startup, but for now, I can feel confident that my battery will last all day. Whew!

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Ughh battery drain definitely too fast.

I feel like I make a thread for each phone I go through. First Blackberries, then Droid X, now Galaxy Nexus.
I am getting pretty horrible battery drain that is definitely worse than others' Nexuses. I have gone to the extended battery now for a few days, yet in the morning, when I unplug from charger (says 98% but charged?), with brightness only a quarter of the way up from lowest, I can literally watch the percentage (battery number mod in corner) drop one-by-one each minute or a few...So if I am actually using the phone, you can imagine it drops pretty fast. Yesterday, with very very moderate use the phone was still dead within 5-6 hours. It was at the mid-80s within an hour or more. Again, with moderate use.
It is stomach-dropping watching the percentage number just go down and down. Yet my friend's Gnex using the extended battery his first day did not hit 85% yesterday until 5+ hours later. The battery stats page on mine shows nothing with high numbers except Screen and Android OS, so I assume no apps are draining it. I am rooted with unlocked BL, on bigxie's deodexed ROM with softkeys mod, battery percentage mod, and power menu mod. I have 100-something apps and many widgets but no battery draining/updating ones. Others with the same ROM report fine battery.
I believe after using the ext. battery for a couple days, it should be "conditioned" if needed at all, yet I see no improvement.
I'm getting very angry watching this drop.. For example, 40 minutes off the charger with almost NO use except for turning the screen on here and there, I am at 94% battery with Screen at 46%, Android OS at 34%, Phone Idle 11%, Cell Standby 9%, and Android System 2%.
And then 1 hr 20 min in, at 88% battery with 55% Screen, 27% Android OS, 6% Phone Idle, 6% Cell Standby.
This doesn't sound normal right? Keep in mind, those numbers are with almost no phone use..very minimal settings menus visited and one update from Market.
Jesus, literally almost every time or two I turn the screen on just to check these numbers, I see the damn battery percentage drop a number. Not even using the phone how/as much as I normally would be. This is infuriating. Luckily, it doesn't seem to drain much with the screen off.
Quit checking and wait til the bug is fixed and blood pressure stabilizes?
Crazy world, ay?
Update to 4.0.2 or 4.0.3 with an improved kernel = success.
Use the phone for 1-2 weeks to stablize battery life - mine is better now than it was when I began using it. But the kernel/rom makes a big difference.
Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
just4747 said:
Thanks. Any suggestions on with combo to use now? 4.0.3 preferrably I guess.
Then why does my friend on totally stock 4.0.2, non-rooted have that great battery life from the first day using the extended battery?? I'm pretty much basing mine off of his and other's who are getting ridiculously long life. I never understood how it varies SO much. We should all have the same relative to usage.
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No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
@rbiter said:
No. Because no two phones are set up the same. Too many variables to say relatively same usage. For instance, when i go to bed i get 2-3 hours standby per percentage point. Not everybody is going to get that.
Crazy world, ay?
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Maybe, but the fact that I have no other visible outstanding draining factors, and I get no 4G at home and therefore have it set to CDMA only...I should not be seeing 1% drops almost every time I turn the screen on for more than 30 seconds. Especially with an extended battery.
God forbid I want to use GPS or 4G.
More battery life threads please.
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More battery life threads please.
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Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
just4747 said:
Wow, really? At first glance in all sub-forums I saw about two, if that. I have a legitimate concern, especially when my friend is getting about 4 times better life. Thanks for your help though in the device forum where this 'doesn't belong'.
..And over the course of only a few minutes of the screen being on maybe twice and sending one email, I saw it go from low 82-83 down to 77. ****ing awesome.
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You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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joshnichols189 said:
You probably have a misbehaving app. Download better battery stats from the android apps and games section here at xda and let it run for a day or so and see what processes are being used the most and what your wakelocks are, etc.
Also, find a 4.0.3 rom with a kernel that can be undervolted and try that out.
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Thank you, downloading now and will check it out.
I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
Antzor said:
I'll admit I'm using the GSM version so my experiences may not apply but for the first few days my battery life was utter crap.
Its been MUCH improved over the last few days, I dont have the wakelock issue and with the screen off the battery drain is literally only about 3% per hour, and thats with background data on.
YES, the screen DOES use a lot of battery, it isnt really avoidable and is somewhat expected with a 720p 4.6 inch super AMOLED screen.
The one thing I can recommend doing is finding a modded kernel and undervolting that CPU - It seems they've been really rather generous providing power to the thing, I've been able to take off at least 100-150mv across the board.
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This - My battery on the stock battery on GSM sucked first few days, and I was really concerned I made a poor purchase. But with the screen on probably 5 or 6 hours of my work day it lives through the day and just enough to get home after that. I can charge it at work too, which I usually do. On my day off it survived 18 hours and still had ~20% battery life left on 4.0.3 AOKP/Francisco.Franco Kernel
From my experience, the battery life isn't bad. I did install the "extended" battery as soon as I bought the phone but is isn't much bigger than the stock battery. I am on stock rooted 4.02. With LTE off I use about 2% per hour in standby. With LTE on it is almost double that (3-4%/hour). I have several widgets running and gps enabled. (wifi when available) I can easily get a 16-18 hour day and have 50% remaining when I go to bed unles I sit around gaming for a couple hours.
I may try a new ROM tonight but I expect it will probably make things worse.
Im running a bone stock setup and im getting 12 -14 hours a day... normally I read posts like the one skiddingus posted and wonder why I never can achieve those readings so i feel your confusion . I do have 4g on and gps off screen is about 1/4 of the way up brightness wise

Battery issues back with new update

I noticed since the new update my life has been bad.the android os bug seems to be back.
Keep in mind these picks are with my 3800 extended battery
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You do relize that you have Steam, A virus protector, and all those other Apps installed that eat away at your battery. Also have you taken into effect that coverage signal can affect your battery life to.
el29 has significantly increased battery life for me....
Your Android OS is exactly where is should be based on your display percent. If you actually turn your phone on in that time Android OS will start to drop and the display percent will start to move up...
NycBenny said:
I noticed since the new update my life has been bad.the android os bug seems to be back.
Keep in mind these picks are with my 3800 extended battery
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It may be that your phone is not sleeping with the display off in some circumstances.
Probably all those background apps waking it up to check internet for updates.
You need to post your actual display on time also.
My battery life has suddenly dropped too since EL29. I updated and everything was great for a few days. One day I woke up and my battery was draining at about 10% an hour with no use. I've tried rebooting and it seemed to help a little but I'm still dropping at about 6% an hour where before update it was 3% an hour. No idea what's causing it and it was really odd how it came out of nowhere.
I asked somewhere in another thread for someone who had the skills to see if there was any major differences between EL26 and EL29 because I actually prefer EL26 but I figure they made 29 official for a reason
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Stop using a nonsense app that does no good to your phone. Who in the world need anti-virus app for android. An't no hacker would spend time to come up with a virus that will steal your info. Some apps claim to do this and that but is just all BS. All you need is an app killer and that's it. If you have an app that is continue running ( other than the one require ) than of course is gonna drain the hell out of your battery and it will get hot.
I have a Seidio 3200 battery which was giving me almost 2 days of moderate use . Immediately, and I mean immediately, after the OTA my battery drain almost doubled according to my stats... I read XDA on the subject, and did a HARD factory reset witth DATA wipe.....no help. Thought maybe the battery was failing..so I ordered a 3800 Trexcell from EBAY. Then read the problem might be from a looping background app or a stuck radio....pulled the battery...waited 5 minutes...put te battery back and now I'm back to normal (if not better) battery drain....It might be that some of us who had OTA got a screwed-up install which affected background apps or radios, while some of us had a normal install...in either case... I'm happy to get my battery use back !
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My battery life has suddenly dropped too since EL29. I updated and everything was great for a few days. One day I woke up and my battery was draining at about 10% an hour with no use. I've tried rebooting and it seemed to help a little but I'm still dropping at about 6% an hour where before update it was 3% an hour. No idea what's causing it and it was really odd how it came out of nowhere.
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My Android OS usage is through the roof now, aka Android OS bug. I installed watchdog and it's the "suspend" and "events/0" processes running at 65-85% when the phone is supposed to be sleeping.
I have had this phone for 5 months without the Android OS bug. I installed EL29 on Feb 2nd. Everything was fantastic until Feb 5th then I suddenly noticed my battery draining faster than normal.
After spending about 3 hours reading up on the Android OS bug this morning I've come to the conclusion there is no remedy for this bug. Sadly Samsung has not fixed it and it's even happening to people with the Galaxy Nexus running ICS.
Success100 said:
el29 has significantly increased battery life for me....
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Same here. I am getting up to 24 hours with stock battery (syncing exchange as push, facebook and gmail), on strongsteve odexed blue rom.
It seemed like battery got better since the updates began (EK02, EL13) and then the battery drain got worse than ever with EL29. For comparison's sake I live in Chicago and work downtown during the day in a not so good cellphone environment for most of the day.
I reverted back to EL13 radio and Rogue's EL13 Repack Kernel, topped off with Calkulin's 2.8.1 ROM. Battery life seems to have returned back to normal, but Calk's ROM makes it that much better.
I plan on giving the battery removal trick a shot too tonight. Someone else on Rogue's or Calk's thread said that removing the battery after a full charge for 5 mins, then recharging again, made his battery back to normal if not better.
Here we go!!! My phone is almost complete!!!
It's not a bug...
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A rant about my experience with the Verizon Galaxy Nexus. HELP!!

Let me start off with the good in this rant. This device is BEAUTIFUL and has A LOT of potential. Considering i just rooted it, it is even more fantastic BUT (there is always a "but" in life) here are my issues that i PRAY would go away. For some odd reason, though i have done everything i can to prevent it from happening, the battery life is just terrible! And here is the mind blowing part: My brightness is always at about 15-30 percent, my automatic sleep is at 15 seconds, i am never on 4G, NFC is off and my GPS is almost, always off. I recently learned that having a lot of black (Wallpaper, themes or simply a black display) going on prevents the display from eating up battery, therefore i've blackened what i use most (MMS, Gmail, Instagram and of course a black wallpaper) but after all of that, the battery still tends to suck major ball sack (sorry for the vivid image). If you must know i am using an AOKP rom, Jelly bean. I absolutely love the rom.
On behalf of that rant ^ .. Is there anything anyone could/would suggest i do in order to have a better experience with battery? Maybe a different rom that revolves around better battery life? Anything that i am missing to prevent battery from draining so fast? AM I THE ONLY ONE GOING THROUGH THIS?!
Last but not least, what gets me going and makes me want to punch something is the fact that my phone constantly, CONSTANTLY heats up for NO REASON (i'm assuming theres an actual reason but i have no idea what it is). After a full charge, i'd unplug the device and couple mins in after browsing web for like 60 seconds and texting, it'd start burning on the top of the screen and the back where the camera is. What is that all about?
And on behalf of that second rant ^ .. is there a solution for that? AM I THE ONLY ONE GOING THROUGH THIS?! lol
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Check out what my battery looked like after a few mins from unplugging it. Screen, 67% ??????
Believe it or not... I had a battery go bad already on me. Now i was short charging it and stuff like that.. but still. The early builds weren't as efficient as this one is. You might try a new battery. Or the oem extended one. I have had good luck with both routes. Oh, and i'm stock.
Lots of battery drain and a hot phone means that it's trying to do something. Looking at your screenshot, you're not having any signal problems, which would lead me to believe it's a rogue app. What was your total screen on time during that 48 minutes?
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Lots of battery drain and a hot phone means that it's trying to do something. Looking at your screenshot, you're not having any signal problems, which would lead me to believe it's a rogue app. What was your total screen on time during that 48 minutes?
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i honestly don't remember, i THINK it was probably 32 mins because thats what i see every time i see the battery that way. If that makes any sense.
Which kernel are you running with that rom? I had a JellyBean rom with a kernel that increased overall, but my phone would often heat up and battery life was not the best. Changed roms and kernel and everything is cool now.
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i honestly don't remember, i THINK it was probably 32 mins because thats what i see every time i see the battery that way. If that makes any sense.
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32 minutes of screen on being 29% of your battery. That makes roughly 110 minutes of screen on for the entire battery. Running a stock battery? I never did, but I think people have said 2 hours screen on is the low end for a normal battery. I could be wrong, though.
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Which kernel are you running with that rom? I had a JellyBean rom with a kernel that increased overall, but my phone would often heat up and battery life was not the best. Changed roms and kernel and everything is cool now.
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Heres a screenshot of the info :
2 hrs is the low end for OEM battery? I'm lucky to get over an hour and a half on OEM extended. GNex battery is unbelievably horrid.
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2 hrs is the low end for OEM battery? I'm lucky to get over an hour and a half on OEM extended. GNex battery is unbelievably horrid.
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Or the high end. I got mine as a replacement device for the Droid Charge, so I had to order a battery and back cover when they offered it to me. Since VZW had a 50% off sale on the 2100mAh battery and back, I went with that. So I've literally never used the standard OEM battery with the phone.
Try going to this link: http://minooch.com/franciscofranco/Galaxy Nexus/JB/Jelly Bean/
and downloading "franco.Kernel-r225-384GPU.zip" flash it in recovery like you would a normal rom. Franco's kernel is extremely stable and works magic for good battery life. Should also resolve your overheating issue. If not, I'd suggest a full wipe and installing a different rom.
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Try going to this link: http://minooch.com/franciscofranco/Galaxy Nexus/JB/Jelly Bean/
and downloading "franco.Kernel-r225-384GPU.zip" flash it in recovery like you would a normal rom. Franco's kernel is extremely stable and works magic for good battery life. Should also resolve your overheating issue. If not, I'd suggest a full wipe and installing a different rom.
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Terrific! So no need for a data/cache wipe? I can flash this over the current ROM I'm using? Backup I'll do of course but yeah.
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Terrific! So no need for a data/cache wipe? I can flash this over the current ROM I'm using? Backup I'll do of course but yeah.
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I normally wipe cache, not sure if it's required. But yeah, it's not a new rom or anything, just different kernel to test out and see if the kernel is what was causing your battery issues.
I'm using the jbsorcery beta with the lean kernel and under clocked with the modded voltage and this is heavy usage on Facebook and texting and about 30 min on the phone I have about 2hrs 45min and im at 80%
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How To: Better Battery Life

I hear it all the time... Does this rom provide good battery life? How's the battery life? Why is my battery life suck? So; it may have been done already somewhere; but I figured after watching and logging my own battery life, I could really help some others. I'll section this out; no specific order at all.
ROM: No matter how many times I look at a ROMs thread, I get to see a multitude of "How is the battery life" posts. You know it, I know it, and we all know it. Truth is; after using plenty of ICS roms out there; most of them have similar battery life. Currently I'm running the Blu Kuban rom, and I get just as good battery life as I do with most other touchwiz based roms. To each rom their own. Read up on the rom itself before you go blaming the rom for battery life. I've noticed the JB builds aren't the best with the battery, but we must remember those are usually noted for having bad battery life. Either way, most of the ROMs I've used personally perform rather similar in actual battery life.
Kernel/Governor tweaks: I can't stress this enough. Governor's and Kernel Thread. That thread will teach you more than anything you want to know about kernel and governor tweaks. Some of these governors can send your phone to absolute battery immolation, while others can set your phone up to last 2x as long. I prefer the more conservative approach and end up with a ton of battery left at the end of the day. While these settings are important, the most important is yet to come.
APPS. I can't stress this enough. I used a quite a few different setups to find what all really uses battery, what doesn't, and what I should to to maximize my own battery. For those of you who don't know me at all, I work ten hours a day, and I used this time frame to measure the battery usage while it's sitting in my car for ten hours. I have a Trexcell 3800mAh battery, so it's roughly 2x the power as the stock battery.
What's the number one usage on my device? NOTIFICATIONS! All of those apps that automatically feed their greed by getting updates from the servers or whatever. Facebook, Hotmail, Tapatalk, and EVEN just the gMail app could drain 10% of my battery in ten hours. Let me show you my findings.. These are the normal apps I use that can automatically update over certain time frames.
Hotmail
Tapatalk (Xparent Red version)
gMail
Facebook
Now if they all automatically update on the stock settings, ten hours of work will mean I'm coming back to a phone with only 75% battery. With only 4-6 hours of deep sleep! That means these apps are waking my phone up to do whatever they want for quite a while. With all of them set to be manually updated; I come to 95-97% battery life. That's quite a stretch in a difference you know?
So, I tested each with the others off and here is what I found. (I tested for three days, wrote my results for each day, then switched to a different app)
Hotmail set to update hourly would leave me with about 90% of the battery at 4:30. Average deep sleep times were in the 8-9 hour ranges.
Tapatalk was setup stock for 15 minute updates. I'd lose at least 10% on the battery every day! Deep sleep however would range in the 8.5-9.5 hour range.
gMail was set to update hourly and would leave me with 95% each day with only keeping the phone awake for 30 minutes on average.
Facebook updates are odd; since they don't happen all the time. So I had a good friend post on my wall three times a day and noticed that it would eat a LOT of battery, usually 10-15% and keep my phone awake for about 30 minutes a pop.
Now I must note, for my tests I had almost nothing installed on the phone aside from the apps listed and the basic apps available in the blue Kuban rom. For the tests, I set google voice to do not disturb so phone calls and the like wouldn't be an issue.
With all four of the apps set to default updates however (no messages on facebook aside from one day), the battery life ranged from one day being 67%, second day ended with 74% and the third day left me with 72%. That's a LOT of battery for just sitting in my car.
After these findings, I've switched all my apps to update only when I manually refresh them, and I'll tell you what, my battery life has never been greater. I literally come home with 95% battery on average and can sit and play on my phone almost all night without charging until it's nightly stay on the charger.
Just some other tips I've learned along the way.
Wifi is a battery slaughterer if it's not connected. Driving around the city and having the wifi detect all kinds of networks is just battery slaughter. So, my rule of thumb now is, when I leave the house the wifi goes off. It's true that wifi uses less battery than 3g and 4g, but when you're picking up random networks and the radio is searching through them, it's just no good for the battery.
Brightness, it's a key. I can't stress this enough, if you don't need 100% brightness and want better battery life, turn that screen brightness down to an acceptable level.
As an ending to this short but sweet little tidbit of information, I'd like to share why I wrote this, did all this testing, and why it mattered to me since I have an extended battery. My phone is my link to the world, my family, potential jobs, and just my favorite handheld entertainment device. Me and my fiancee` both have the E4GT, and I have the extended battery. She has the stock battery and it doesn't last long at all for her. So my plan now is to work with her on her battery life, and give her this extended battery. I won't need it since I literally have to try to get to 50% battery life with it. I usually end up plugging my phone in for the night at 65-75% battery. I just figured I'd share this with people on the forum as maybe a different approach to saving some precious battery. If you like it, tap the thanks button. If you have any ideas to better this, let me know!
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Just like to add for people to check their batteries lol...these stock batteries that come with the phone don't last all that long..a lot of these batteries go bad quick and need to be replaced (a simple spin of the battery will tell you if you need it changed)...and for a lot of people to stop constant deep charges and to charge when needed instead of pushing the battery to low critical levels
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
I will also add that if you're going to try and mess with settings such as I/O or over/under clocking do your research so you don't jack your phone trying to save a battery. I say this from experience lol
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I understand leaving your phone on all day long so you can see texts and missed calls and stuff but why not just turn off your data during the day instead? I use this widget when I am in a poor signal area, don't need data, or sometimes overnight https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.data.enabler&hl=en Simple and effective and you can let your apps sync for times when you are using the phone
Undervolting also helps a little
Step 1. Install CM10 or ParanoidAndroid.
Step 2. PROFIT!
Battery life between stock and AOSP is night and day.
The questions about battery life are there because not every kernal is the same. Especially ones that are early in development. Pretty much every AOSP rom will defer some amount and even more so if 1 of them is in its early stages.
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What battery problem I'm, all good
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What most people need to know is no matter what tweaks are applied.. YMMV. It's all down to the user.. Best way to save battery on your phone.. Turn it off!!!! lol But I agree with the things posted. I'm always messing around to find the best settings.. So far i've gotten over a day (1d 3 hours) with over 2 hours screen on with my setup. Which is great for me. But all in all, it's how i use my phone.
MiguelHogue said:
Just like to add for people to check their batteries lol...these stock batteries that come with the phone don't last all that long..a lot of these batteries go bad quick and need to be replaced (a simple spin of the battery will tell you if you need it changed)...and for a lot of people to stop constant deep charges and to charge when needed instead of pushing the battery to low critical levels
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
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What do you mean spin the battery? As in literally put in on a counter and spin it?
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What do you mean spin the battery? As in literally put in on a counter and spin it?
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Yes.. If it's spins that means it's bulging.. And that equals a bad battery
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
MiguelHogue said:
Yes.. If it's spins that means it's bulging.. And that equals a bad battery
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
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And if it jumps up and starts doing flips.... YOUTUBE THAT SH!T!!!!! :laugh:
milky1112 said:
And if it jumps up and starts doing flips.... YOUTUBE THAT SH!T!!!!! :laugh:
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Lol if it jumps and starts doing flips.. Stand back... That thing about to explode
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
Oh everyone loves the magical blue smoke! (i was an airvraft electrician in the navy, seen batteries that werent happy lol noooooo funn)
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I wanted to share some of my thoughts and experiences with battery life on my E4GT.
On GB I had great battery life...As soon as I got on any version of ICS I started having battery life issues. I eventually learned that my battery was buldging so I ordered a new one. Once I got my new battery, I thought life would be grand...NOT so much!!
Over the last month or so and ROM after ROM, tweak after tweak and even going straight stock I figure it was actually the device itself that was the problem...AND it was the problem from the day I got it last Dec. From reception to battery life to buzzing camera.
Something I've seen as is that "freezing" an app doesnt always disable it...I've had to completely uninstall something to get it to not run...even though its frozen and all of its startup references are disabled in Autostarts.
I dont care for the stock browser, but I've learned that 3rd party browsers such as Firefox and Chrome continue to run and use CPU even after exiting...Now, FIrefox has an actual "Quit" option while chrome doesnt...So if you Quit out of Firefox its ok, but unless you close your tab in Chrome it just keeps on chugging battery power.
A TEP replacement phone is what finally resolved my issues!!
I've only had my new phone for 2 days now, but I'm already seeing better battery than before, plus better reception and a camera that doesnt buzz.
I've got Agats ROM with the BluKuban 1.8 Kernel. This Kernel has a few more options enabled so I use that but I like how Agat put his FI27 ROM together.
Thanks for reading...
Found this one to be very helpful (written for the nexus but some does apply to our device):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599025
Also if you have a newer version of maps, make sure to go to settings-location settings and disable location reporting and location history, these two kill your battery when turned on.

cm10 and flashing another kernel

I have cm10 stable on my galaxy s2 sgh-t989 and the battery life has not been good so I wanted to trying flashing another kernel. Can anyone tell me what kernels will work and if anyones had a good experience improving battery life by flashing a different kernel. Any information is appreciated. I haven't been able to find much about the t989 and flashing kernels. Thank you!
What's up with these threads in the wrong places every so often? It's like no one reads the rules now-a-days...
And also, don't just say that your battery life is bad without giving members a time of how long the battery lasts. We don't want to guess how long your battery lasts.
macboy3000 said:
What's up with these threads in the wrong places every so often? It's like no one reads the rules now-a-days...
And also, don't just say that your battery life is bad without giving members a time of how long the battery lasts. We don't want to guess how long your battery lasts.
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sorrry, I guess I should have posted this in Q/A ... but after about 2hours I'm already almost at 50 percent.
And is most of the time on standby or on heavy usage?
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And is most of the time on standby or on heavy usage?
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I would say in between ... my biggest question was really about the kernels. I can determine for myself what is good battery life with experimenting with flashing different kernels, among other things. I'm just looking for a bit more information on flashing a kernel, ones I can, ones I can't, etc.
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sorrry, I guess I should have posted this in Q/A ... but after about 2hours I'm already almost at 50 percent.
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Same here. I cannot get my phone past the 5 hour mark if I am using it. If I just leave it next to me alone, it lasts 7. If I have wifi on, however, it lasts 15! My guess is how strong the network is and whether or not you have an exchange account synced affects it. Another thing is, after a full charge your phone running CM10 will refuse to enter deep sleep for some reason, making for some very disappointing battery life. Rebooting it every time you disconnect a charger helps somewhat, but that's hardly practical: with a battery life this bad, that makes rebooting every hour since I keep it plugged in everywhere I can. I am resigned to lugging an external battery everywhere I go and hate every minute of it.
As for another kernel, don't bother. Battery life has sucked for me with every last rom and kernel combo I have tried, including stock. Numbers have been pretty much the same, and there are no wakelocks on it. What another kernel did manage to do is make my phone really hot and really slow, as well as reboot whenever it feels like it. Phone becomes utterly unusable.
Kernel won't help you. You are not solving one problem, you are solving several : radio, deep sleep and demand for data.
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kangelov said:
Same here. I cannot get my phone past the 5 hour mark if I am using it. If I just leave it next to me alone, it lasts 7. If I have wifi on, however, it lasts 15! My guess is how strong the network is and whether or not you have an exchange account synced affects it. Another thing is, after a full charge your phone running CM10 will refuse to enter deep sleep for some reason, making for some very disappointing battery life. Rebooting it every time you disconnect a charger helps somewhat, but that's hardly practical: with a battery life this bad, that makes rebooting every hour since I keep it plugged in everywhere I can. I am resigned to lugging an external battery everywhere I go and hate every minute of it.
As for another kernel, don't bother. Battery life has sucked for me with every last rom and kernel combo I have tried, including stock. Numbers have been pretty much the same, and there are no wakelocks on it. What another kernel did manage to do is make my phone really hot and really slow, as well as reboot whenever it feels like it. Phone becomes utterly unusable.
Kernel won't help you. You are not solving one problem, you are solving several : radio, deep sleep and demand for data.
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dang, ok. Thanks for the info. I'll stick with cm10 and its stock kernel, see if I can't tweak anything to get better battery life.
Get an extended battery I found one on eBay that increases battery from 1850mah to 2400mah without that ugly hump add on to the back.
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benpottier said:
dang, ok. Thanks for the info. I'll stick with cm10 and its stock kernel, see if I can't tweak anything to get better battery life.
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By the way, I was referring to the current crop of custom kernels for CM10. I wrote it as a general statement and I didn't mean it to be.
There used to be one kernel called KKO. If it gets ported to CM10, get it. Your battery life will still suck, but you will have a slightly snappier phone and more governors to play with. You can squeeze maybe an extra half-hour from the phone this way. Insignificant, I know. Also, the extended batteries are all sacrificing something: either NFC functionality, or the slimness of your phone (some require a custom back cover), or both. In the end, when you do the math, it adds about 2 hours of runtime to your phone: you are still running from charger to charger. The external battery gives me an additional ~7 hours of heavy use, but is a big phone-sized object tethered to my phone with a USB cable. I look like a suicide bomber with a wire running between my pockets. Not ideal, not by a long shot.

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