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What about Desire and bluetooth hand-free devices (car)?

I was wondering if Desire works OK with bluetooth hand-free devices. Someone who can tell us about it? I use it a lot on my car and it's a basic point for a mobile phone. I would really appreciate any feedback about this.
Thanks.

xmfreak said:
I was wondering if Desire works OK with bluetooth hand-free devices. Someone who can tell us about it? I use it a lot on my car and it's a basic point for a mobile phone. I would really appreciate any feedback about this.
Thanks.
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It has full A2DP which means you can control the device using the stereo itself, something the iphone cannot do
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is what works properly on the Desire, the iphone does not have this support
The Desire supports the following Bluetooth Profiles
A2DP,AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile
This is a full list of all the bluetooth layers
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)
Basic Printing Profile (BPP)
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP)
Personal Area Networking Profile (PAN)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
Serial Port Profile (SPP)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)

Works well with my BT Parrot CK3300 kit.

Ive got a Pioneer 7100BT winging its way to me, that has A2DP, im hoping it will work well with my Desire. Will post results when i get it and install it tomorrow.

Seems to work ok with my Standard Motorola headset.
Hoping to be able to est it with a bluetooth stereo soon.

ronnyuk said:
It has full A2DP which means you can control the device using the stereo itself, something the iphone cannot do
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is what works properly on the Desire, the iphone does not have this support
The Desire supports the following Bluetooth Profiles
A2DP,AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile
This is a full list of all the bluetooth layers
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)
Basic Printing Profile (BPP)
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP)
Personal Area Networking Profile (PAN)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
Serial Port Profile (SPP)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)
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Hope someone can figure this out:
I've had experience with 3 mobiles connecting to the built-in bluetooth in my car (HTC Tytn II, HTC Hero and Nokia e71) my concern is the following:
With the Nokia, when I get a call, I hear the phone ringtone through the car speakers. But with both HTCs I couldn't, I hear the default car ringtone, which is REALLY annoying.
The nokia e71 has the following bluetooth specs:
Bluetooth version 2.0 with Enhanced Data Rate
- Bluetooth profiles: DUN, OPP, FTP, HFP, GOEP, HSP, BIP, RSAP, GAVDP, AVRCP, A2DP
does anyone know if one of the these profiles is responsible for this? which one? I hope it would work with the Desire.
by the way, does making the phone visible before connecting make any difference? (just wondering)

Yet another HTC handset I can't get to work with my factory fit blue-tooth in my Skoda Superb (delete / install any VW Audi group car)

sh500 said:
Works well with my BT Parrot CK3300 kit.
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Hi, I have the CK3200 LS-COLOR and I can't get the contacts to load on the parrot, did you have any teething troubles?

Pumpkin Lantern said:
Hi, I have the CK3200 LS-COLOR and I can't get the contacts to load on the parrot, did you have any teething troubles?
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No problems at all. Just a standard pairing; it took less than a minute to auto sync the address book and I was ready to go.
I've never had problems with this kit; have sync'd numerous WinMo devices, Blackberrys (is that the plural?!) (still active for work) and now the Android device.

beaker656 said:
Yet another HTC handset I can't get to work with my factory fit blue-tooth in my Skoda Superb (delete / install any VW Audi group car)
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VAG cars need phones that use the RSAP Bluetooth profile, it's a bit of a wierd profile and stands for Remote Sim Access Profile, now looking this up for you I can only see some blackberry and Nokia phones that have this profile.
Bluetooth phone prep is a bit of a waste of time at the moment as the company who writes the software are not fully integrating there systems with everyone else, they are also not following standard A2DP procedures, I would imagine this is due to a partnership thing with people like Nokia and company cars etc.
Next time save the 600 quid or so you pay to have bluetooth prep and get a decent stereo like I have in my Audi, unless you got satnav too then you are stuffed
I have enclosed a link on VAG group phone prep and HTC phones, make sure your SIM card is of the new Variety
http://audiforum.us/multimedia/11189-audi-bluetooth-rsap-adapter-htc-touch-pro.html

I've had mixed results.
In my car the Desire works perfectly with the Parrot CK3300. I get full bluetooth contact sync, voice dialling works fine (the CK3300 does the voice recognition as the Desire doesn't do it over bluetooth) and calls come through loud and clear.
The wife has the lower CK3000 Evo. This doesn't have a display, so you send contacts to the kit over bluetooth and then record voice tags against them so that the kit can do voice dialling. Unfortunately the Desire refuses to send contacts to it and claims that the kit doesn't support sending contacts over bluetooth. This unfortunately means the wife can use the kit for incoming calls, but has no voice dialling for outgoing calls when she also upgrades to the Desire on Saturday when her contract's up.
Dae.

But what about voice dialling over Bluetooth with any of those?

The Android OS doesn't support voice dialling over bluetooth yet.
That's why I use the Parrot CK3300 - it does it on behalf of the phone. It basically syncs the phonebook to the kit. You then record the voice tags into the kit and associate them with a contact. You can then voice dial, which the kit will match up to the contact and dial using the phone.
Even when I've had phones that do support voice dialling I've always found the Parrot more effective.
Dae

ronnyuk said:
VAG cars need phones that use the RSAP Bluetooth profile, it's a bit of a wierd profile and stands for Remote Sim Access Profile, now looking this up for you I can only see some blackberry and Nokia phones that have this profile.
Bluetooth phone prep is a bit of a waste of time at the moment as the company who writes the software are not fully integrating there systems with everyone else, they are also not following standard A2DP procedures, I would imagine this is due to a partnership thing with people like Nokia and company cars etc.
Next time save the 600 quid or so you pay to have bluetooth prep and get a decent stereo like I have in my Audi, unless you got satnav too then you are stuffed
I have enclosed a link on VAG group phone prep and HTC phones, make sure your SIM card is of the new Variety
http://audiforum.us/multimedia/11189-audi-bluetooth-rsap-adapter-htc-touch-pro.html
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Thanks for the explanation. I happen to own a VAG car, A4 B8 with concert radio.
So SAP profile is different than RSAP profile? Could this be responsible for the phone ringtone not going through the car speakers? Because everything else works perfectly, it pairs and connects automatically, syncs contacts and make/receive calls, except for the ringtone issue! Which sounds like an ambulance siren.
What stereo system did you install?

daesimps said:
I've had mixed results.
In my car the Desire works perfectly with the Parrot CK3300. I get full bluetooth contact sync, voice dialling works fine (the CK3300 does the voice recognition as the Desire doesn't do it over bluetooth) and calls come through loud and clear.
The wife has the lower CK3000 Evo. This doesn't have a display, so you send contacts to the kit over bluetooth and then record voice tags against them so that the kit can do voice dialling. Unfortunately the Desire refuses to send contacts to it and claims that the kit doesn't support sending contacts over bluetooth. This unfortunately means the wife can use the kit for incoming calls, but has no voice dialling for outgoing calls when she also upgrades to the Desire on Saturday when her contract's up.
Dae.
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That's not good to read at all if I remember correctly I think I have on my car the same parrot model as your wife. My parrot is working perfect with Omnia and Xperia but I was afraid it wouldn't work with Desire and it seems I was right to be afraid. That's a huge problem for me.

Works perfectly with my Motorola H500 Bluetooth Headset.

xmfreak said:
That's not good to read at all if I remember correctly I think I have on my car the same parrot model as your wife. My parrot is working perfect with Omnia and Xperia but I was afraid it wouldn't work with Desire and it seems I was right to be afraid. That's a huge problem for me.
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It's a big deal for her too. I'm hoping that it'll be fixed in a future update. I'm glad we thought to check it before she upgraded to the Desire. She's going to hold off upgrading until this issue is resolved as she spends a lot of time in the car and it's not cheap to upgrade the handsfree kit. It's a deal breaker for her.

salahag said:
Thanks for the explanation. I happen to own a VAG car, A4 B8 with concert radio.
So SAP profile is different than RSAP profile? Could this be responsible for the phone ringtone not going through the car speakers? Because everything else works perfectly, it pairs and connects automatically, syncs contacts and make/receive calls, except for the ringtone issue! Which sounds like an ambulance siren.
What stereo system did you install?
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I installed a Blaupunkt MP68 but would not recommend it as it's pretty old now, the good thing was in the day it matched the Audi Red dials perfect and was German so I stuck with it.
All the Pioneer new series of BT headunits have Parrot BT built in so I would recommend one of those.

hmmm ... where does one go to get at slightly more advanced settings for BT? The Settings>Wireless & Networks options are very basic. I'm hoping to be able to tweak something to make it start working with my Audi A5. I suppose I'm asking is there anything like Sim Access Profile or Jetware out there?
Anyone any ideas? I searched Marketplace but nothing relevant came up.

I have found that my motorola headset keeps connecting and disconnecting like it is going out of range.
Thing is, it can be in my pocket about a foot from my headset and still disconnect and reconnect several times a minute.

Somewhat a phone???

The software with Kindle came with Contacts, CM7 doesn't have it but it shows my contacts using Google Voice. I can text via Voice, but If I wanted to make a call is it possible?
How can we get the Contacts, & Dialer App and possibly SMS apk as well anyone ? ? ?

[Edit:] Disregard

if the kindle 3.5mm jack will take a headset input, then buy GrooveIP for $5 - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en
then you ought to be able to make calls that way!
I haven't tried it on the KF, so experiment at your own risk! Keep in mind there's no internal mic, so your only hope to make calls would be via the 3.5mm jack, and whether or not a headset w/ mic will work on it!

Kujila said:
if the kindle 3.5mm jack will take a headset input, then buy GrooveIP for $5 - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en
then you ought to be able to make calls that way!
I haven't tried it on the KF, so experiment at your own risk! Keep in mind there's no internal mic, so your only hope to make calls would be via the 3.5mm jack, and whether or not a headset w/ mic will work on it!
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I didnt want to use 3rd party apps, any way to get the real cm7 dialer, contact, and sms apk? I installed cm7 barebones and the rom has those stripped out maybe I should ask him ?

I would say ask the developer -
I don't think that will work since there's no real phone service on the KF; GrooveIP sort of fills in that gap.
I am no expert, though, so definitely check with your ROM developer!!
[edit: says it doesn't work here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24725856&postcount=12 ]

I can verify that the headset don't work with groove IP app. I can make calls but mic don't work. no sound at the other end.
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No mic input for the KF
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[Q] Bluetooth issues in a vehicle

Hi everyone,
Got my black Z1c yesterday, love it so far!
However, when I try to use it in my car (Audi A6 2008), I cannot place a call if it was initiated from the car's interface.
The phone connects to BT no probs and shows my car in the devices list as a headset. Incoming calls are reflected on the car's display, and connected to the speaker's/mic of the car. When I place a call from the phone itself - same deal, all works as expected. But when I use the car's controls to dial a number, the car's display shows "connecting", and nothing happens...
Tried to pair/unpair many times, no success. Tried other phones, like iPhone 5, Samsung Ativ S (WP8), Samsung Galaxy S4 Active, HTC One - all work seamlessly. My old Xperia Z was working fine, until I sold it to get the Z1c... I would never expect Z1c to behave like this...
Anyone has similar issues?

Yes mine is the same (ford sync)
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Hoagi said:
Bluetooth is a wireless protocol for exchanging data over short distances from fixed and mobile devices, creating personal area networks.
There are two important parameters of Bluetooth devices - class and supported profiles.
"Class" signifies the distance at which a Bluetooth connection is possible. Most mobile devices are Class 2, which means they have a range of up to 10 m. Class 1 devices are rare and have a range of up to 100 feet.
A "profile" is a type of Bluetooth connection. The most common are the Headset (HSP) and Handsfree (HFP) profiles that enable the device to connect to a wireless headset or handsfree.
Some other profiles are OBEX (OBject EXchange) which allows transfer of files, contacts and events; A2DP, which adds support for streaming of stereo sound and AVRC, which allows remote control of playback.
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... and the reason you have posted this is...?

Aung Thiha said:
try clear caches. All kinds of caches. When I say all kinds, I mean all caches that you can clean. Retry what you want to do. If it does not help, try factory reset and retry your bluetooth connection. if it still does not help, try flash firmware. I guess this is the solution you can count on.
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Thanks, will try. The phone was just outta box when I was trying it in my car... The car was the first BT device it has ever been paired wtih...

Phone calls work fine on mine.
BUT while we're on the topic of vehicle BT, has anyone got working song info via bluetooth? I thought it was supposed to support avrcp 1.3, but in my car (2013 Ford SYNC) I still get no info about songs I'm listening to and also the voice commands for playing artists or albums don't work.
/Daniel

I use it with my new Golf and the phone functions works as expected but the song info does not show. But they never do with Android phones. My 5s works of course
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easycure1974 said:
I use it with my new Golf and the phone functions works as expected but the song info does not show. But they never do with Android phones. My 5s works of course
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In my Toyota Auris 2013 model song info always worked with Walkman app assuming you have tags filled out correctly.
I know there were some issues with tag info in Poweramp I prefer to use but they got that fixed recently. Advanced options to display song info on external BT device is just buried deep in app's settings though.

Everything works fantastic on my BMW F10 (2012) with Navigation Professional, Bluetooth Music with Song Info, Phone with contact pictures (! Didn't even know that was possible until I got the Z10c) and full Message Access Profile with historic E-Mail and SMS access.
The In-Car integration is the main reason why I am torn between iPhone 5s and Xperia Z1c.
The iPhone has the Advantage of "BMW Apps", which allow using Webradio, Facebook, RSS Feeds etc. through the Navigation, as well as iPod Control and Coverart Display.
The Z10 can't do those things, but it can do Bluetooth MAP which is rather important to me also. Webradio can of course be streamed via BT (and controlled on the phone).

Voice Dial / Commands?

I have a KLD rk3188 unit. It has been great, except for one problem. No voice control. My car's built in Bluetooth supported voice dial perfectly, but i cant seem to get it to talk through the canbus to the head unit. Thus i am dependent on what the radio offers me. Sadly, I can't make voice work. Downloaded the Google App. Tried using Google Now, but when I tap the microphone, the app crashes.
Any tips?
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Bump. Not being able to hands-free dial is a major problem.
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i too have got the same setup today and looking for some help with voice commands. If I find something will post here..

Apparently some of the pumpkin models now use a parrot bluetooth module that supports voice commands.
http://www.autopumpkin.com/pumpkin-...link-obd2-wifi-3g-steering-wheel-control.html
Otherwise it seems the same as the other MTCB models. Wonder if its possible to replace the bluetooth with the FC6000TN modules they are using?

shaiq123 said:
i too have got the same setup today and looking for some help with voice commands. If I find something will post here..
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I am using the latest Malaysk ROM dated 10th January 2016 for RK3188 1024*600. It lets me speak Ok Google and Call (contact name) to the phone when after pressing the call button. The way it works for me is:
1. Whatever is playing on the unit, it stops when I press the call button on my steering;
2. It launches the unit's dial screen;
3. I say 'OK Google', it launches the ok google listener on the phone;
4. I say 'Call (contact name)' and it calls.
Few things I had to manage before this started working was:
1. Enable the option to receive commands over bluetooth in Google Now settings in the phone;
2. Enable to XPOSED MTC in the XPOSED framework in the head unit;
3. Change the setting to integrate with phone's google now interface (something like that) in XPOSED MTC module.

lotherius said:
Bump. Not being able to hands-free dial is a major problem.
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...t/app-modeswitch-spotify-swc-control-t3310966

Hello Sir
Can you tutorial with more detail? I installed XposedMTC. I want to use voice speech dial to call but It is not success. If you know way., please tell me
Thank you so much

I have Klyde MTCC unit with a Parrot BT board. Voice dial works great. It works just like the one in this video.
What I'd really like to know is how is the microphone overlay added. The microphone icon can be moved freely on the screen, even on the factory home screen. I have changed several ROMs, both 4.4 and 5.1 and it is always there. AFAIK only units with the Parrot BT board have this.

vodoinhoc9x said:
Hello Sir
Can you tutorial with more detail? I installed XposedMTC. I want to use voice speech dial to call but It is not success. If you know way., please tell me
Thank you so much
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I've been able to accomplish this using Tasker and AutoVoice. It doesn't actually make the call, but you can use all voice commands to get the contact screen up with the results of your voice query to pick the person you want to dial.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...tcd-device-t3598908/post72542268#post72542268

I've found a app called Toppal. It is designed to run on Android head units. You have to buy a licence, which I have not done yet, but it dials through the bluetooth app.

Force bluetooth "phone audio" from nexus 7?

Nexus 7 2013 WiFi
Stock 6.0.1 rooted with Timur's Kernel v4
For some reason when I BT connect my tablet to ANY pioneer head unit (tried 3 so far) I don't get the check box in bluetooth options for "phone audio" . I am using the Verizon messages+ app to make calls and receive texts over wifi Hotspot from my phone. This works amazingly but for some reason I can't get it to route through to the pioneer bluetooth connection. I tried a set of bluetooth headphones and the phone audio checkbox is there and it works flawlessly.
I did some Google searching and searched this sub but don't see anything relating to this problem.
edit: see below for update
Is there a way to force a bluetooth profile to use "phone audio"? Is there a Config file anywhere I can manually edit?
I've tried Bluetooth Auto Connect and choosing the phone audio option for the head unit but it did not change anything.

I assume your nexus is lte ?

deadgiveaway said:
I assume your nexus is lte ?
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Sorry should have put that info in the initial post. No, it is the WiFi model.
I would be wifi tethering my phone to get network connectivity. This is a Nexus 7 carputer type build.
Bit of an update though:
Per a website that I cant post a link to until i make 10 posts.... It looks like the nexus 7 2013 lacks the HFP (Hands Free Profile) by default. Now I'm not entirely sure why the bluetooth headset works if this profile is not present other than its possible the headset uses the HSP (Head Set Profile) but I can't seem to find any documentation on if the N7 actually has the HSP.
Through extensive googling, I ended up at posts talking about Bluez bluetooth stack implementation. This is a bit over my head though and cant really find any solid documentation on implementing it on Stock 6.0.1
I also ended up getting directed to the source.android page that mentions at the bottom:
Custom Bluetooth profiles - If you want to add Bluetooth profiles that do not have HAL interfaces provided by Android, you must supply an SDK add-on download to make the profile available to app developers, make the APIs available in the Bluetooth system process app (packages/apps/Bluetooth), and add them to the default stack (system/bt).
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But like I said, this is over my head.
Anyone with any sort of experience give me some insight?