How did apple beat samsung - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

If you have questions APPLE beating SAMSUNG in courts post them here! :thumbup:
I'd like to know..
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Because qlot of the features in samsungs phone apple does have a patent on even if samsung perfected them. Its sad but to samsung 1 billion isnt ****.
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Because, TouchWiz used to look, animate, and work like iOS. But, that's the only argument that Apple can make. The rest, like phone shape is completely a mystery to me.

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Samsunged. New comercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOSgfvTC35A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Lmao
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Lmfao. Brilliant.
Why mock the Users of iPhones IMO not very smart strategy ... They should come right out with facts and show people how much better it actually is ...
xSaint21 said:
Why mock the Users of iPhones IMO not very smart strategy ... They should come right out with facts and show people how much better it actually is ...
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Because iPhone users are like kids they believe in Santa claus, the Easter bunny , and iPhone are just better because they are .....
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Epix4G said:
Because iPhone users are like kids they believe in Santa claus, the Easter bunny , and iPhone are just better because they are .....
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I get that ... but do you think mocking them will make them think "hey this product is better" ... or will they go with the product that always says it's "revolutionary" "the best" "years ahead" ...
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I get that ... but do you think mocking them will make them think "hey this product is better" ... or will they go with the product that always says it's "revolutionary" "the best" "years ahead" ...
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The ones that are smart already use Android, but the sheep you will never make them even try a different phone they are elite and it's only apple, Carmel latte frappes, etc.....
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But eh who cares it's funny .... I just got samsunged ... That's funny
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How come iphone doesnt have free navigation? I thought they did, what a bunch of illiterate isheeps? Apple is banking on lack of knowledge ppl.
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Epix4G said:
The ones that are smart already use Android, but the sheep you will never make them even try a different phone they are elite and it's only apple, Carmel latte frappes, etc.....
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this is why we mock them. cold hard facts havent suited them yet. but one thing an elitist sure understands, is snobbing on someone else.
I though I saw these guys at the Apple Store...
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Why mock the Users of iPhones IMO not very smart strategy ... They should come right out with facts and show people how much better it actually is ...
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I agree. Modesty is a more professional approach
I like companies playing hardball, hell apple has been doing this for a while( insert mac vs pc commercials here). Game on go samsung
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I liked the first one better lol. I like the advertisements they're shockingly accurate as to what apple launch day is.
Apple gave their competition a golden opportunity. If I had an iPhone 4 I would not walk out of a store using an upgrade on a phone that looks identical and basically is identical (OK don't flame but an upgraded camera and CPU/gpu isn't worth an upgrade)
Evo 4g to epic touch, now That is an upgrade ;-)
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The first round of commercials were better, it actually showed some of features of the phone. Still I like the fact that they are firing back at apple...the right and respectable way...not with frivolous lawsuits but through competition.
bbedward said:
I liked the first one better lol. I like the advertisements they're shockingly accurate as to what apple launch day is.
Apple gave their competition a golden opportunity. If I had an iPhone 4 I would not walk out of a store using an upgrade on a phone that looks identical and basically is identical (OK don't flame but an upgraded camera and CPU/gpu isn't worth an upgrade)
Evo 4g to epic touch, now That is an upgrade ;-)
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My girlfriend just upgraded to the 4s from the 4 despite my best efforts. I had her convinced to at least try the at&t gs2 and see if she would like it. But then the salesman said, "I have the gs2 and if you already have an iPhone you'll want to stay with iPhone.."
And she did. Stupid salesman. I was di close to converting someone and I was helpless to intervene because I was at work. Blast.
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Since it looks just like the iP4, how will everyone know she upgraded?
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My girlfriend just upgraded to the 4s from the 4 despite my best efforts. I had her convinced to at least try the at&t gs2 and see if she would like it. But then the salesman said, "I have the gs2 and if you already have an iPhone you'll want to stay with iPhone.."
And she did. Stupid salesman. I was di close to converting someone and I was helpless to intervene because I was at work. Blast.
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One of the metrics we are scored on is return rate. I've yet to return an iPhone for anything but a more expensive iPhone. I have definitely returned android devices (including the epic touch) for iPhones. I will give someone a fair discussion on whether they are really getting the right phone without resorting to android snobbery, but I ultimately have to look out for me and not get things returned.
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Unless I get an Apple diehard with nothing but Apple products I can usually flop them to Android. More specifically the Epic Touch. Larger screen, expandable memory and showing them mine running all the rooted goodies. Plus, a lot of people don't like that you have to use iTunes.
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MrDowntown12 said:
My girlfriend just upgraded to the 4s from the 4 despite my best efforts. I had her convinced to at least try the at&t gs2 and see if she would like it. But then the salesman said, "I have the gs2 and if you already have an iPhone you'll want to stay with iPhone.."
And she did. Stupid salesman. I was di close to converting someone and I was helpless to intervene because I was at work. Blast.
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My girlfriend wants an IPad now but I have nothing else I can convince her of :-( I said the TF prime before it came out but blech. I'm on the lookout for a nice ICS tablet myself, there's not really any android tablets I like except older ones.
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My girlfriend wants an IPad now but I have nothing else I can convince her of :-( I said the TF prime before it came out but blech. I'm on the lookout for a nice ICS tablet myself, there's not really any android tablets I like except older ones.
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The rumors of the prime being crap are greatly exaggerated. I know 2 people that have one and have had no problems. It's a very vocal minority that have issues if you read the forums closely.
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How much you think apple paid for this verdict?

http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-v-samsung-decision/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Was never going to be a fair trial in an American courthouse, just they way the world operates.
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This is BS verdict for real. They brought in a jury that knew nothing about patents laws. The judge had to give them a crash course in it. Fishy business. So do this mean no galaxy s4. What's next apple going sue Google claiming Android os infringed on apple BS ios
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
blackdragon79 said:
This is BS verdict for real. They brought in a jury that knew nothing about patents laws. The judge had to give them a crash course in it. Fishy business. So do this mean no galaxy s4. What's next apple going sue Google claiming Android os infringed on apple BS ios
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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This was all about the older samsung phones I think, I don't see it affecting our current or future galaxy devices.
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jury was a bunch of apple fanboys..
it's really pathetic to let a bunch of people who have no real knowledge when it comes to this kind of stuff let them dictate these type of lawsuits..
Iphony89 said:
This was all about the older samsung phones I think, I don't see it affecting our current or future galaxy devices.
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I sure hope not. Samsung need to stick it to apple or just development for them all together
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
I wonder if everyone in the jury owns an iPhone 4S in an Otter Box...? The thing I love most about my Samsung GS3 is the fact that it's not an iPhone.
Never stood a chance as this was held literally in Apple's backyard.
As for the future, who knows, but this is a really big deal. With what was granted, no phone maker will come close to an iphone design again for fear of a lawsuit with now a precedent. Worst case is manufacturers start to question if Android is a viable ecosystem considering everything it runs on is probably sue-able by Apple now.
They hopefully stop with Samsung and don't go further as Sammy was their biggest threat. But they might now set their sites on HTC as well and be the final nail in that coffin.
While this is bad enough, I think the worst is because it sets a standard and Apple now has control over what we know the mobile industry today.
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The fact that Samsung were awarded nothing at all in their counter claim just proves that the whole thing was rigged...can't wait for the Note 2. Even before I bought my first Samsung phone I was never fond of apple products and this just increases my stance.
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Does anyone have any links to more on Apple vs Samsung? I coulda swore I read recently that Apple lost to Samsung is another country and now Samsung is suing Apple. Can't find it though :/
hayzooos said:
Never stood a chance as this was held literally in Apple's backyard.
As for the future, who knows, but this is a really big deal. With what was granted, no phone maker will come close to an iphone design again for fear of a lawsuit with now a precedent. Worst case is manufacturers start to question if Android is a viable ecosystem considering everything it runs on is probably sue-able by Apple now.
They hopefully stop with Samsung and don't go further as Sammy was their biggest threat. But they might now set their sites on HTC as well and be the final nail in that coffin.
While this is bad enough, I think the worst is because it sets a standard and Apple now has control over what we know the mobile industry today.
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They shouldn't have been allowed such broad patents in the first place. What's next apple going start trying to patent numbers?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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Does anyone have any links to more on Apple vs Samsung? I coulda swore I read recently that Apple lost to Samsung is another country and now Samsung is suing Apple. Can't find it though :/
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Apple is now banned from selling the I phones/iPads in south Korea And I think they have to pay Sammy, 22000$? And Samsung has to pay them I think 1300?
But that's just south Korea
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Apple was like I'll give you 10%
Judge was like that's too little
Then both said eureka
The more we charge Samsung the more we both get
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Its gonna be appealed and go on for years.... the judge even did a doulble take on some of the juries verdicts... Apples victory was so lopsided foul play is obvious and should make the appeals a breeze
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Appeals will be fun. Both sides were playing laying the ground with for appeals during the trial incase of a lose.
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Its gonna be appealed and go on for years.... the judge even did a doulble take on some of the juries verdicts... Apples victory was so lopsided foul play is obvious and should make the appeals a breeze
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Love to see apple fall flat on it's face
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
I hate apple for this...
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those guys in the evo lte forum are........ i was trying to alert them but they just started being butts because i type fast. This is not school. I really feel for Samsung here and HTC is no better with the impending doom looming(Apple/Nokia). Its crazy how they got nothing but owe so much and in time this will directly effect customers.....
I hope and pray that them bastards get a taste of their own medicine against moto/Google
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Apple gets no respect for this.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Samsung Found Guilty in Patent Trial

http://phandroid.com/2012/08/24/breaking-verdict-reached-in-apple-v-samsung-patent-trial/
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08...ict-in-apple-vs-samsung-case/?test=latestnews
Scorecard so far:
* Jury finds Samsung infringement of Apple utility, design patents for some (though not all) products
* Jury upholds Apple utility, design patents
* Jury upholds Apple trade dress '983
* Jury finds Samsung "diluted" Apple's registered iPhone, iPhone 3 and "Combination iPhone" trade dress on some products, not on others
* No Apple infringement of Samsung utility patents
Damages owed by Samsung:
* $1.05 billion and counting
BS verdict
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
This sucks ass.
Paid verdict. **** apple
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
So what now? Will this affect the S3? Is the S4 gonna be triangle shaped?
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Wow... well u have the most expensive company in the world going another rich company it all comes down to who and what their price is... this is very unfortunate to innovation in the world.. I really do hope someone drops a nuke on the apple head quarters and their affiliates
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In other news.... Ford is suing Chevy for having a button, that if pressed, rolls down your window..
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dcaplinger76 said:
So what now? Will this affect the S3? Is the S4 gonna be triangle shaped?
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1 sided polygons - 11 sided ones have been copyrighted
Same with 13 sided - infinity sided
Apple decided to leave out 12 for fun
I can't wait to see my dodecagon s4
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dcaplinger76 said:
In other news.... Ford is suing Chevy for having a button, that if pressed, rolls down your window..
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And Apple is suing both of them for using a button for anything
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All this because....Samsung released a iPhone killer product lmao....
So in other news... Motorola Google vs apple
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And Apple is suing both of them for using a button for anything
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lol and this is probably the best reason yet to never buy anything from apple i can understand protecting your ideas but it seems like most of the stuff they didnt even come up with
this sucks. but samsung can sue, when the iphone with LTE comes out samsung can sue apple because of the patents they have for LTE. with the divisons the samsung have they eat the billions, and get the money back with the parts they make for the iphone/ipad they make.
Everyone is complaining....its actually a win! Besides apple how many phones use or are now using samsung chargers? Easiest to use...win one. And you get a samsung for how much compared to apple? With better options, root, etc.
this isnt a loss....its an opening for real things and development for better things even more than apple with restrictions...and so on!
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This is far from a loss, Is apple the Antichrist? yes. is Samsung guilty? Hell ya
Samsung did copy Apple and because they were to lazy and careless, they got caught. Period. Yes, innovation is often achieved on improving and evolving a product of a rival company, but you just have to be a lot more slick about it. They had emails of them admitting it.
Now Samsung will be forced to innovate even harder and this will make our Galaxy 4's even more impressive.
And Android should be safe now the Google got the Motorola patents. They should be able to force Apple into some sort of an agreement, now the Steve Jobs has passed away.
I really hope android platform and look isn't affected by this verdict.
Phuck Apple
Hopefully this won't affect the sales of the S3. My upgrade isn't until Sept 1st and I really want the S3. I hate apple so much. You should see some of the posts I wrote about them on other forums. And if I were Samsung, I would quit making Apple's screens and components for some of their devices..
I dont see it affecting the sale of s3, nexus i thought was supposed to be pulled of shelves..havent seen that yet!
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because...
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I dont see it affecting the sale of s3, nexus i thought was supposed to be pulled of shelves..havent seen that yet!
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Remember that lovely little update that crippled your search bar in LF9? Our s3 isn't the only phone that got it. They changed the software in the gnex like ours to pull the "infringing" sh*t
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And Android should be safe now the Google got the Motorola patents. They should be able to force Apple into some sort of an agreement, now the Steve Jobs has passed away.
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And for the record, nobody "passed away". God smited steve jobs from the earth for being a scum piece of sh*t
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2012082510525390&repost=1
Anyone find it hilarous that the original Epic, the one that is most different from the iphones and has a freaking keyboard..., suffered the 2nd most in terms of fines? Also, it's kinda cute that the jurors decided to ignore the concept of prior art to "save time".
Well...To be honest ...this may very well go super nova..or even viral. Meaning this case will see the doors of the u.s. supreme court. Where we all know apple will not stand a chance with such a petty sue. Stay strong Samsung!
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Apple V Samsung... Apple won big... boo

Editing to reflect proper dumb damages: 1.05 bn (pending)
20 to 21 hours of deliberations is a little fast for such a complicated case me thinks...
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No they didn't .... both kinda won and lost
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the US trial, not the Korean trial
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Yea to be fair I just saw. .. they lost lol
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$2.3 billion? Try $1.051 billion.
Still bad.
nope it's 2.3
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unless CNET is wrong...
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my bad, CNET is wrong.... bad math
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$1,051,855,000
And they come for newer phones like the gn next. Hopefully with less success. Pretty frustrating....really seems like a jury caught in apple fever.
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my bad, CNET is wrong.... bad math
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Yes, yes they are.
can't believe this...why doesn't somebody sue apple?they act like they have invented everything in the mobile industry,they are suing everybody...give me a break...
Yeah, that blows. Its just going to fuel the apple machine to sue more and more and more. They will just keep suing in this same district where Apple and jobs are the second coming of Christ until they do get all major competing phones blocked. I just hope Motorola hits apple hard.
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tomikoran2 said:
can't believe this...why doesn't somebody sue apple?they act like they have invented everything in the mobile industry,they are suing everybody...give me a break...
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People are suing (and have sued) Apple.
Because most of the jury, the judge and even both lawyers are probably using iPhone
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Wait for the Googlrola v Apple trial.
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2.3 billion... crap.
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(I'M NOT APPLE FANBOY)
Have you seen the galaxy tab's UI in the settings menu. It's a direct copy of the ipad.
Also why wasn't Google Android sued as well? Because every android phone is literally the same in system.:silly:
Why dont samsung just stop copying apple...it's not hard to do it. Such as Svoice that is just stupid copying Siri. I think samsung are just doing it on purpose because Svoice layout and look of it, is just a blatant copy for siri.
I hate Apple so much....
I didn't until all this crap happened I just said it wasn't for me.
now I would never ever support them in any way no matter what
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fayosi said:
(I'M NOT APPLE FANBOY)
Have you seen the galaxy tab's UI in the settings menu. It's a direct copy of the ipad.
Also why wasn't Google Android sued as well? Because every android phone is literally the same in system.:silly:
Why dont samsung just stop copying apple...it's not hard to do it. Such as Svoice that is just stupid copying Siri. I think samsung are just doing it on purpose because Svoice layout and look of it, is just a blatant copy for siri.
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they don't copy them...
Ugh I owned a skyrocket before this, there are no similarities.
obviously people who claim this crap haven't actually used one
This is absolutely ridiculous.
I don't understand how things like pinch to zoom can even be patented in the first place.
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I don't understand how things like pinch to zoom can even be patented in the first place.
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This is what needs to be highlighted. If it wasn't Apple patenting this, it would be someone else. We need to realize that it's the patent system that's messed up allowing companies to patent these things in the first place. You can't blame Apple for trying this. It's in their best financial interest to do so.

Samsung ready to sue Apple if iPhone5 has LTE.

Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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drewmonge said:
Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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I love it! Thanks this made my day
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drewmonge said:
Ha! This made my day. Apple's "God Complex" only blinded them to all the technology they're still dependent of. It's time that Apple gets a taste of their own medicine.
http://mashable.com/2012/08/31/samsung-sue-iphone-5-lte/
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Interesting article, really had to click a link within that article to really read the goods.
From what I think is true, Samsung makes (most) of the processors for the iPhone. Isn't the LTE radio inside the processor? I don't understand what grounds Samsung will have to sue Apple for injecting LTE into their phones when Samsung most likely will provide the radio for Apple. After researching Samsung only owns 12.2% of the LTE patent and I guess has the right to sue Apple.
If Steve Jobs was still alive (RIP) I would say there would be no way Apple would jam LTE into their phones, who knows now though
I still don't understand what grounds of patent infringements Samsung will have to sue Apple, if Samsung wants to recover their money, bump the price for the processors they sell to Apple... haha
If a few of the android phone manufacturers have rights to the patent then Mabry it could become a lot bigger than just Samsung.
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Apple will get what's coming to them
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Doesn't the ipad 3 have lte connectivity?
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Apple is basically shooting themselves in the foot with all this mess. I was never really an iPhone or an iPad fan, and vowed never to get one. But I did still like the MacBook pros and such. Because of their usefulness in stuff like video production and recording. But now after all this patent trolling and manipulation of the patent system, I've vowed never to buy anything Apple related. And I know other people feel the same. They as a company now just make my stomach churn.
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drewmonge said:
Apple is basically shooting themselves in the foot with all this mess. I was never really an iPhone or an iPad fan, and vowed never to get one. But I did still like the MacBook pros and such. Because of their usefulness in stuff like video production and recording. But now after all this patent trolling and manipulation of the patent system, I've vowed never to buy anything Apple related. And I know other people feel the same. They as a company now just make my stomach churn.
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I work with a few "Apple Fanboys" who, after all this law suite, have sworn away from Apple... they claim the next phone they get will be a Samsung powered Android... haha
Now let's see if they will backup their words... one of them said they are embarrassed to have an iPhone now
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