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[Q] Orange UK Branded Desire wants FroYo!

Hi Everyone,
I would be very grateful for a little help.
I have an Orange UK branded desire. Like everyone else the Orange branding really annoyed me so I have followed the guide to create a goldcard and have rooted and flashed a stock HTC rom. (so I'm currently using 1.15.405.4)
This is as far as I got before I left it.
So, am I right in thinking that to now get a rooted version of FroYo onto my desire all I need to do is;
1. Update the radio to the latest one, which will lock me out of my phone regardless of what network I'm on
2. Purchase an unlock code to get me back into my phone.
3. Use an application like ROM Manager to flash a FroYo rom onto my phone. (will I need to use my goldcard if I used ROM Manager?)
Is there anything else I should be aware of? I have been reading around and it seems fairly straight forward but I believe there are some issues with de-branded Orange phones.
Apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but I'm really new to all this and to say I'm a little worried that I'm going to brick my desire is a major understatement!
Thanks again for any help!

Yep you pretty much have it spot on! Although it sounds like you haven't rooted yet. You will need to do this in order to flash a rooted ROM!
You can use Unrevoked 3 to root your phone, really easy with a couple of clicks.
Although I have personally used an unlock code my friend with an Orange Branded desire didn't get locked out when he used the latest radio, so looks like you may be in luck! Probably worth trying before you purchase a code

magicwaz said:
Hi Everyone,
I would be very grateful for a little help.
I have an Orange UK branded desire. Like everyone else the Orange branding really annoyed me so I have followed the guide to create a goldcard and have rooted and flashed a stock HTC rom. (so I'm currently using 1.15.405.4)
This is as far as I got before I left it.
So, am I right in thinking that to now get a rooted version of FroYo onto my desire all I need to do is;
1. Update the radio to the latest one, which will lock me out of my phone regardless of what network I'm on
2. Purchase an unlock code to get me back into my phone.
3. Use an application like ROM Manager to flash a FroYo rom onto my phone. (will I need to use my goldcard if I used ROM Manager?)
Is there anything else I should be aware of? I have been reading around and it seems fairly straight forward but I believe there are some issues with de-branded Orange phones.
Apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but I'm really new to all this and to say I'm a little worried that I'm going to brick my desire is a major understatement!
Thanks again for any help!
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Hello there,
I am not sure that debranding was necessary, you could have rooted the phone using unrevoked, then just flash a rooted official froyo. And if you had unlocked your phone first, then you could have also flahed the latest radio rom.
I would say unlock your phone first, root it, then flash the latest radio, then flash a rooted froyo rom of your choice.

Thanks for the really fast responses.
I thought I had already rooted it? How would I tell if its rooted? I've already installed the ROM Manager app and Titanium Backup which say that they need root to work. Titanium Backup also says "Root access=> OK (BusyBox 1.16.0 from app)"

your defo rooted if the app says that
Strange people should say your not rooted, you can get rooted stock roms after all thats what I did. I'm on tmo and I flashed back the same firmware before flashing froyo no sim lock when I finally got to froyo cause I had trouble flashing recovery.
I have read some stuff on orange sim locking, try looking at the unlockr wbsit I think there is a tutorial there that mentions what to do when this happens.
Best thing to do tho is go to the Macardo android website (hxxp://android.modaco.com) they are really helpful there you'll get instant replies worth listening too, anyone worth listening too on here is far too busy

If you flash the latest radio you will not get simlocked (@satnile)

Just wanted to say thank you for all your help, I done it! I am now using FroYo on my (previously orange branded) Desire. Its awesome!
Also thanks for letting me know that I didn't have to buy an unlock code. Saved me few quid!
I don't think I want to be messing around with my phone like this again... well... maybe until the next major update
Thanks again!

But you just forgot to mention which method you've used.

That would probably help!
I had already followed the instructions on how to root a branded desire and install a stock htc rom that is posted on these forums.
This left me with a rooted, debranded desire. I lost all my contacts in the process, but thankfully I had synchronised it with HTC Sync a little while ago, so I was able to retrieve my contacts from that. Also having the desire set to automatically back-up things in its own settings, helped get back my text messages and saved wifi/bluetooth connections.
I then found the ROM I wanted to install. I just wanted the stock FroYo ROM. I picked one that was already rooted and did not update the hboot as I read there were issues if it did update it.
I followed instructions, also on these forums, on how to install the latest radio. I wasn't sure if I should have done this with my goldcard in the phone, but I used it anyway! That went fine and I was also not sim locked out, which saved me some money.
I copied the FroYo ROM I wanted onto my normal micro-SD card (not my goldcard), then used ROM Manager (downloadable via marketplace) to install the ROM. I was expecting it to take some time to install (10min+), but its pretty quick. The phone took a bit longer to boot up after the update.
Thankfully everything went well and I didn't even lose anything on the phone! Nothing was affected. I had all my apps, contacts, settings, background, ringtones, widgets etc... all set as normal. I was expecting them to be all wiped so I had backed up everything using Titanium Backup.
I hope that helps anyone who is about to void their warranty!
Any questions, just ask and I'll do my best to answer them. I'm definitely no expert, so all I can really talk about is what I did. I'm sure people will say there was an easier way to do it, but this is how I understood the process from the many guides out there.

My 1st time expericance with root/roms/RSD

Picked up my US (T-mo)Defy last month, it was running Eclair.
I've been reading as much as I could before I attempted to do anything that voids my warrenty. I couldn't wait for the US Froyo release...
So I rooted with SuperOneClick because z4root did not seem to work. Then I got clockwork installed. My first attempt was to install Jboogie3's "beta4Offical" thinking it would keep Eclair and just clean up this blur nonsense. But when I used clockwork recovery, it just hung. No worries, I've still got a working phone.
Next I attempted "JBoogie3 Deblur Honey" and that put me in a boot loop <that was a Oh ****! moment>. Since I could still get into stock recovery and bootloader, I was not too worried. I happen to have the T-mo OTA update.zip on my Defy, so I attempted to flash/install that...but I got the "status 7" error (I think b/c it was still rooted). Since I wanted my phone back that night, I went ahead and installed 3.4.2_145(Finland) .sbf (I think...it was late) with RSD Lite. Anyhow, it got me back up! I had saved my APN earlier, so things were working, but still stock.
Not leaving well enough alone, I figured "why the hell not" and rooted->clockwork and then recovered to "JBoogie3 Deblur Honey". That worked this time.
Happy as a clam now. I was worried about the "H" for my network, but I did speedtests and browsed around and I'm getting 800-100kbps and I can live with the "H"...like a sleeper!
I'm gonna continue to read and try new "roms" (I'm still wet behind the ears on the terms).

I also did it wrong when I tried to restore the orange recovery, and ended up flashing the orange sbf. But its working well and I'm happy as well.

i also own the phone from less than a month and i also messed up everything , install 3.4.2 before reading about non downgreadable....... rooted 3.4.2 finland installed clockwork , took a nandroid backup of 2,34 trying to restore to official 2.1 eclair version it restored and i was happy but no luck it got me on the bootloop....... now i am flashing to 3.42 but not finland ... its uk version hope it works and the phone dont dies.......
by the way my moto swimmed already but its fine ... its very cool to watch your phone at the bottom of water sparkling v ery tough on the outside hope i wont kill it from the inside
edit: installed the uk blur rom but it doesnt give the starting options (LANGUAGE) to change them... now its in german , and reset factory settings doesnt work pushing the button button but it dingoes nothing.... crap , reseting with system recovery also doest help resets but its in german again

Thanks for the report, im relatively new to the defy as well ( just over a week now ) and at some time i will probably start looking into the various roms+upgrades.
the only thing holding me back is the official 2.2 update is due soon ( apparently )
and im not sure if i would be able to return back to my current settings/ version 2.1 should i need to.

New to android, new to Moto-Defy
Fellow Defy users,
Greetings of peace!
I am noob here in the xda developers
First off, really don't want to spam threads.. So I chose to post my message here in this thread for a semi-short explanation of what I want to share.
I am new to the android phones (previously a symbian user), and I just got my new Motorola Defy - Black which I bought here in the Philippines.
I bought 2 models actually one for myself and one for my brother as he requested one as well.
To cut the chase..I just want to share some inputs.
To my shock, the phone has some mods already as I opened it.
**take note that the battery is sealed and all other stuffs are sealed when I got the phone*
It has adobe flash player 10 (not flash lite)
Super User
R. Explorer
ITFUNZ (which is all in chinese)
UC Browser
I believe this are the things needed to "root" your phone.
I heard it's better when your phone is rooted.
android version 2.2.1 Froyo
And the as of my brother's phone, no additional apps as mentioned above.
Android version 2.1 eclair
** Noticed that my camera is better than his and has slightly a different camera interface**
I heard that it's cooler to have a rooted android phone and I hope you can enlighten me with my curiosities.
1. My phone has a 3 day replacement warranty and 1 year Motorola service warranty, should I return the device since it's rooted? Or Should I keep it to save me of the hassle since I would like to root anyway in the future.
2. Prior to question 1, do I lose/void the Motorola warranty since it's already rooted the day I purchased it?
3. I know it’s possible to unroot my device, my concern is that the ITFUNZ and R.Explorer applications are in Chinese. How am I able to understand and access.. “just” in case I need access to these files
The seller told me that the models they’re selling are open to all network or factory unlocked which are processed already by their suppliers.
That’s true since my bro’s phone is opened to all network. Maybe mine was just special because it was already rooted.
Here are the details of my MOTO-DEFY (Setting>Applications>about)
**I hope some one can give me information on each item so I can get a head start working with my phone**
System Version
Version.34.0.117.MB525.Retail.en.GB
Model Number
MB525
Android version
2.2.1
Baseband version
EPU93_U_00.56.00
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9-g3c35cd0
[email protected]#1
Build number
ITFUNZ_DEFY_Eclipse_CN_Base_UK_SP1
Well that’s it for now. I’m just reading and reading more threads to feed my knowledge. (sometime reading to much information confuses already your understanding)
Thanks for reading my post and it will be highly appreciated for you masters out there to give a helping hand on how to maximize and enjoy our Moto-Defy.
-G

[Q] Getting rid of Vodafone AU ROM to 'stock'?

Hi,
I've had my DHD for 6 months now, and I love it, but after seeing this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056329
I've finally decided I want to get rid of the Vodafone crap on my phone. It takes way longer to boot than it should, I have stupid apps on there, and I'm generally sick of seeing the Vodafone symbol every time I boot my phone, especially as I bought the phone from them and am not even contracted to them.
Is there an easy way to rid myself of this Vodafone branded ROM? I know next to nothing about rooting or anything, however.
After seeing the link above, I realised that I'll probably be waiting ages for Vodafone to send the update OTA, and I would really like some Gingerbread around about now. Hopefully the process will speed up my phone.
But, is there anyway I can do this without losing everything on my phone? My messages, apps, settings?
A lot of questions there - thanks in advance.

Hi, you will lose everything you don't backup.
Apps will need to be reinstalled, and settings will be lost.
If your firmware version is greater than 1.3x.xxx.x then you will need to downgrade to 1.32
Follow THIS thread to downgrade.
Once downgraded simply download & run the RUU~.exe file and it will take care of the rest.

How could I backup my apps (and settings) and restore them once updated?
My 'software version' is 1.32.178.5
Looking at the link you provided, it says...
System requirements:
Desire HD with build number 1.72 or higher
My DHD's build number is 1.32.xxx.x... Do I...not have to downgrade? Or what?
Also, since I'm running on an Australian network (Virgin), will I need to incorporate that somehow into the software I put onto the phone or something..?

You can root your phone and use clockwork to remove data/cache to go back to factory settings
as for the virgin thing, just make sure your APNs are correct and you should be fine

So I could root it and use Clockwork and my phone would basically be like a standard Desire HD that I bought new, unbranded in a shop?

yeah but you will also lose all your contacts and messages etc
i think you can use titaniumbackup to save those kind of things .. but done quote me because ive never done this, ive only rooted and cleared then flashed a new rom on

actually look up a stock RUU guide
EDIT: Just Root your phone and flash a custom rom imo
I did it .. never going back

Hmm, okay.
What about if I wanted to put something on my phone like the link I posted up top, the 2.3 'release'?

well click the ROOTED link in my sig
and do all the steps with the exception of the flashing of the MIUI.zip ... just replace it with the custom rom of your choice and bobs your uncle
i advice to back up your apps and anything else you want to keep

Getting back to stock

About a month ago my phone was getting stuck on the HTC loading screen making it impossible to even get into recovery, So with some help from some lovely people on XDA I got a rom which put me back to stock, however I now have the problem that my phone either has a very low signal on the rom I got linked to, or on the Miui one i backed up thinks im roaming alot, which obviously isnt right.
Basically I want to go completely back to the start as if the phone hasnt been touched firmware wise, except for the froyo update. I have tried different radios and all do the same. I have backed up all the apps, contacts etc. But I cant find the Official Orange froyo rom, I have debranded the phone so I think i can use a debranded Ruu right? However When i downloaded one and try to flash it through Hboot, It says the utility isnt right and i need to update it. I have no clue what this is. So can someone help me out, I have searched the internet but alot of the threads are not relevant to my phone etc or my carrier.
I hope someone can help. I dont mind if i lose root etc. because i can redo all of that easy enough.

[Q] 2 years down, My play is jus a psp

Hi all, Its been almost 2 years since i did an OTA update on my play and bricked it. Using the first patch that came out to fix this problem of phone not booting, i "destroyed" the bootloader or something or RadioRom and my phone does not accept any sim. it was originally unlocked.
Has anyone come up with a way to revive the play to make calls or something. cos its really depressing having a phone jus lying there wasting away, only to be brought out when needed for navigation or games.
Someone please helppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

Assuming your radio/sim is in working condition, I don't particularly see how bricking your phone can cause the phone to act like that. Have you tried flashing the stock firmware on again after it was bricked? And have you tried reunlocking the phone and putting on a custom rom/kernel?

jayact~ said:
Assuming your radio/sim is in working condition, I don't particularly see how bricking your phone can cause the phone to act like that. Have you tried flashing the stock firmware on again after it was bricked? And have you tried reunlocking the phone and putting on a custom rom/kernel?
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about 2 years back, shortly after this phone came out, a problem was noted with OTA updates on unlocked bootloader.
The phone was bought "sim-free" or factory unlocked depending on which nomenclature is correct.
With an unlocked bootloader, the OTA update caused the phone to go dead.
in a haste to get the phone working again, a patch was released which broke the radio rom but got your phone to boot again. i believe the initial patch was released by BLAGUS.
well that killed my radio and now, no sim inserted works.
I reinstalled the stock firmware on it. tried several variants from different regions in the hope that it might work. was getting help from Wazz, Blagus and Bin4ry but seems they've moved on to more important projects now.

2 years ago, I would've brought my phone to the carrier. While your warranty would have been voided, you still should've been able to tell them that it is THEIR fault that it's not working since it was their OTA update that broke the phone. At the very least, they should've been able to get you a discount on a replacement Xperia Play, or at least I think they would have if they wanted to keep a happy customer.

Waqas said:
about 2 years back, shortly after this phone came out, a problem was noted with OTA updates on unlocked bootloader.
The phone was bought "sim-free" or factory unlocked depending on which nomenclature is correct.
With an unlocked bootloader, the OTA update caused the phone to go dead.
in a haste to get the phone working again, a patch was released which broke the radio rom but got your phone to boot again. i believe the initial patch was released by BLAGUS.
well that killed my radio and now, no sim inserted works.
I reinstalled the stock firmware on it. tried several variants from different regions in the hope that it might work. was getting help from Wazz, Blagus and Bin4ry but seems they've moved on to more important projects now.
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Alright, I understand now. I wish I knew more, so I could help you out.
Was this the patch you used? I believe I used this ftf to relock my bootloader when my phone was bricked after I accepted an OTA update, just as you did. My radio never had any issues, though.. That said, my phone was sim-locked, since I have the R800x, so maybe that has something to do with it..