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Real quick,
1. Do I loose all the apps I installed? (I'll just reinstall them I assume?)
2. Can I get rid of the preinstalled apps that keep running?
3. Is it fairly easy to overclock when screen clicks on, and underclock when its clicked off?
4. What is the best kernel for stability and battery life?
5. Whats the most stable ROM for stability and battery life?
Both me and my girlfriend use the G2 and we love them. I just want to milk the hardware a bit more
Also added another line with the MT4G going to do that one next :0
Wrap Up. I'm trying to get the snappiest, most stable, running G2, with the longest battery life. Please help, I've been trolling and reading these for a while, just wanted to repost the information in case anything has changed/updated. Cheers from Minneapolis!
xandermpls said:
Real quick,
1. Do I loose all the apps I installed? (I'll just reinstall them I assume?)
2. Can I get rid of the preinstalled apps that keep running?
3. Is it fairly easy to overclock when screen clicks on, and underclock when its clicked off?
4. What is the best kernel for stability and battery life?
5. Whats the most stable ROM for stability and battery life?
Both me and my girlfriend use the G2 and we love them. I just want to milk the hardware a bit more
Also added another line with the MT4G going to do that one next :0
Wrap Up. I'm trying to get the snappiest, most stable, running G2, with the longest battery life. Please help, I've been trolling and reading these for a while, just wanted to repost the information in case anything has changed/updated. Cheers from Minneapolis!
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Just rooting won't make you lose anything; the only time you'll have to reinstall apps is when you flash a new ROM as you need to do a full wipe however, Market will start to reinstall them on its own.
When you root, you can do whatever you want, including removing stock apps. Titanium Backup has a feature to remove apps (be sure to make a backup though, incase something breaks)
Overclocking requires an overclocked kernel and SetCPU has profiles to allow screen on/off settings.
Pershoots kernel is generally viewed as the best however, it doesn't work with the stock ROM or Sense ROMs; for the stock ROM try Baconbits (v3 is the latest, I believe).
Most ROMs are generally equally stable, which to choose depends on what you like. Most use CyanogenMOD though, there are many to choose from.
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Regardless of the rom/kernel, you'll get pretty sweet battery life
dietotherhythm said:
Regardless of the rom/kernel, you'll get pretty sweet battery life
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Not neccessarily; just rooting doesn't give one better battery life, Sense ROMs generally have worse battery lives, Pershoot under-volts giving better battery life, etc.
The only way just rooting your device gives you better battery life is that it allows you to remove the carrier installed bloatware that runs at startup.
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Dear friends,
I have had some problems with my battery, as you can check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697584
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659525
I don't know if I have been spoiled by Nokia, because I had a Nokia E72 with a tiny screen a 1500Ah battery (Two days connected with EDGE/Wifi updating Whatsapp and Gravity).
I just need Whatsapp and any Twitter application running al the time.. 3G or HSPDA is not a must, I could live with EDGE for battery saving.
I have tried:
Stock 2.3 ROM
Oxygen COS'ed
CM7 RC1
Minwild 4.9 CM
I don't care about fancy widgets and so... I just want battery life... sometimes I use the screen with 10% brightness!
Please, help me! Help will be highly appreciated.
PD: Moto RZR MAXX is too expensive
PD2: I'm using lastest radio and have not messed with Kernels, always using the one that comes with each ROM.
PD3: Testing is so easy, I wonder if someone have done that before? Install ROM, install whatsapp and twitter, config, fully charge, see it discharge and take the time and try with another ROM, right know I don't have the time, but that's what I want to do...!
Bets regards.
Far as I know those roms aren't exactly power hungry.
ManU kernel is recognized for batter saving.
You can use with MildWild CM version.
For oxygen I think you have to use thalamus kernel.
I'm using Oxygen V4 MildWild with latest thalamus kernel and with normal use (wifi once in a while but usually switched off, some browsing, some phone calls, some texts and even a little game once in a while) it lasts me a full day. If I play too much, the battery can last as three hours (with bat, intensive games).
MidnightDevil said:
Far as I know those roms aren't exactly power hungry.
ManU kernel is recognized for batter saving.
You can use with MildWild CM version.
For oxygen I think you have to use thalamus kernel.
I'm using Oxygen V4 MildWild with latest thalamus kernel and with normal use (wifi once in a while but usually switched off, some browsing, some phone calls, some texts and even a little game once in a while) it lasts me a full day. If I play too much, the battery can last as three hours (with bat, intensive games).
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Thanks...
Which ROM uses ManU kernel? I'd like to try that one.
Right now I'm using Oxygen Cosed with Thalamus (I think)
I dont think there is a rom that uses ManU kernel by default. But as long as a rom is based on CM7 I believe you can replace the default one with ManU.
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Anything without Sense, or without ICS.
Desire S • Fallout V2.0.0 • xda premium
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Anything without Sense, or without ICS.
Desire S • Fallout V2.0.0 • xda premium
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Not entirely true. Oxygen rom and those that use it as base need to use Thalamus kernel. Using ManU on Oxygen roms for example will break your camera.
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stankyou said:
Not entirely true. Oxygen rom and those that use it as base need to use Thalamus kernel. Using ManU on Oxygen roms for example will break your camera.
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Thanks for your answer.
What do you mean by breaking the camera? I suppose only software...!
Thanks for letting me know that, I was going to flash ManU kernell with Oxygen Cosed! So I'll flash it over MinWildCM.
There is a lot of reading about roms but not about kernels!
peikojose said:
Thanks for your answer.
What do you mean by breaking the camera? I suppose only software...!
Thanks for letting me know that, I was going to flash ManU kernell with Oxygen Cosed! So I'll flash it over MinWildCM.
There is a lot of reading about roms but not about kernels!
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The camera just wont work. I flashed ManU on Oxygen rom before.
peikojose said:
Dear friends,
I have had some problems with my battery, as you can check here.
Bets regards.
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The best rom for battery, performance and stability is none other than GINGER VILLAIN. If you look at the screenshot most of juice is gone into display as I like 100% display. I am sure you can save further battery with switching off wifi, mobile data, gps, vibrations, display etc. But this rom is pretty much beating other rooms. Only problem people find is there are no future updates for this rom. If you looking for above all then go for this rom.
Hit thanks if it helps you.
Cheers
Raj
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA
When you realize it is mostly a kernel thing, silliness off "best rom for battery" phrases will struck you like an epiphany.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2
I gave my old desire to my brother because the battery was dying , before I do so, I flashed MUIU rom, it seems fine when he is using it
OxygenMod worked well for me well.
erklat said:
When you realize it is mostly a kernel thing, silliness off "best rom for battery" phrases will struck you like an epiphany.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2
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And that would be about 50% correct. The rom does play an important role on battery consuption.
I know you asked about ROMs, but if you dont mind a thicker phone you could also consider an extended battery. I'm using a Cameron Sino 2400MAH battery, cost me £7 from Amazon UK and I get between 30 - 38 hours out of my Desire, depending on use. That's with ICS for Desire by Sandvold installed.
I cant post links yet but take a look at batteryboss.org and it mentions it as being "not a bad deal".
ICS works fine for me
I use the BCM - Ice Cream Sandwich from CM9 Source and it works fine for me. Been up for almost 16 hours with decent usage and pretty poor cell signal the whole time.
The lowest battery drain I've had was using Mildwild's Oxygen Based. Nearly 2 days of battery with pretty decent usage. See the attachments below: you might found them a bit dark cause they were made with screen filter at 50%.
- During night, phone had 2G (GPRS).
- Screen on-time: 3 hours, above 50% usage.
- Always with WiFi or HDSPA (3G) excepts during nights.
With battery perfectly calibrated (it shutdowns at 0%).
Hey guys I have galaxy w (I bought it 10 or 12 days ago).Don't worry i studied my lesson.I know how to root,flash,install apk etc.
I rooted my phone and installed REM ICS.But i'm not happy with it.Because it has a few problems
In the first place, i want to tell you what i'm looking for.
I just want proper sms app (no mms converting), WORKING gps,menu customization [not by date or title (i'm happy with touchwiz)]
Most important -> goot battery life.That's all folks.
But i can't find a rom that meets my wishes.
Now i'll install rebel rom 3.0.6.
But if you have a recommendation PLEASE let me know.
p.s. : I'm sorry if there are grammar mistakes.Thanks in advance. :good:
CyanogenMod Alpha 8 version should be good to you
but you have the SMS to MMS converter on everyrom (i think) & touchwiz
but normally in options you can adapt it
good batterylife & performance
Or BioHazard has it all (based on cyanogenmod)
just flash the ROM + extra sms file (to get normal sms lay-out) - Biohazard customisation - good batterylife & performance (& touchwiz)
has jellybean 3 features & customisation
EhndroiX is a nice rom based on cyanogenmod
but it has it flaws, batterylife isn't perfect but it's a smooth ROM
it also has touchwiz and Jellybean lay-out
Personally i'm running EhnDroix right now but i'm thinking to switch to cyanogenmod (due to the better batterylife) or biohazard
Now about the GPS function you can use Google Maps / Navigation, you can also download Sygic GPS (look on some forums for a "free" version of it )
then you will have a free offline GPS system with TomTom maps navigation
i hope i helped you out a bit
grtz
S440 said:
CyanogenMod Alpha 8 version should be good to you
but you have the SMS to MMS converter on everyrom (i think) & touchwiz
but normally in options you can adapt it
good batterylife & performance
Or BioHazard has it all (based on cyanogenmod)
just flash the ROM + extra sms file (to get normal sms lay-out) - Biohazard customisation - good batterylife & performance (& touchwiz)
has jellybean 3 features & customisation
EhndroiX is a nice rom based on cyanogenmod
but it has it flaws, batterylife isn't perfect but it's a smooth ROM
it also has touchwiz and Jellybean lay-out
Personally i'm running EhnDroix right now but i'm thinking to switch to cyanogenmod (due to the better batterylife) or biohazard
Now about the GPS function you can use Google Maps / Navigation, you can also download Sygic GPS (look on some forums for a "free" version of it )
then you will have a free offline GPS system with TomTom maps navigation
i hope i helped you out a bit
grtz
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Thanks for your long message.But i couldn't see touchwiz option in ehndroix.Anyway i don't know if camera function works in cyanogenmod 8 alpha.
burak9393 said:
Thanks for your long message.But i couldn't see touchwiz option in ehndroix.Anyway i don't know if camera function works in cyanogenmod 8 alpha.
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touchwiz is there on EhndroiX (i'm running it..)
and the camera function is available in alpha 8
when you go to the Galaxy W I8150 Development topic, you can see the progress made and a changelog to base you on through all the versions
grtz
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Ive been using SGW for a lot of time now, when i had the stock rom i used ADW laucher for the menu. As for the battery life, keep 3G turned off or install JuiceDefender, it turns on 3g every X minutes, instead of keeping it on all the time. It also adjusts the brightness. My battery would last nearly 3 days that way with moderate calling.
Hugs.
Also i wonder if there is something wrong with my original samsung charger.When i charge my phone with its original charger, battery drains quickly (%85 in 2.2 hours).But when i charge it with my friend's htc's charger it downs to %97 in 2 hours.Just weird.
burak9393 said:
In the first place, i want to tell you what i'm looking for.
I just want proper sms app (no mms converting), WORKING gps,menu customization [not by date or title (i'm happy with touchwiz)]
Most important -> goot battery life.That's all folks.
But i can't find a rom that meets my wishes.
Now i'll install rebel rom 3.0.6.
But if you have a recommendation PLEASE let me know.
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As I know Rebel ROM is not coming with a TW launcher, you may try Black Notes Last Page if you wish, it came with a TW launcher, just for your info, in Black Notes, you would have to reboot your phone after running the 99SuperCharger init.d script, as it may cause you unable to receive your message, but it wouldn't really affect you if you don't run the script. Hope it helps.
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Also i wonder if there is something wrong with my original samsung charger.When i charge my phone with its original charger, battery drains quickly (%85 in 2.2 hours).But when i charge it with my friend's htc's charger it downs to %97 in 2 hours.Just weird.
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Are you using the USB cable as charger? That one will be much slower than the charger. For a decent battery life, I would recommend you to use a GB ROM with Juice Defender at this moment, because the battery life for CM9 may be vary from version to version at this moment.
I use its original charger (mini USB).I installed rebel rom it seems like it's okay.But i'm not sure yet.
Ok it sucks more i know it now.SMS problems,slow browsers,performance sucks
Looking for good battery life? Most of the GB roms provide good battery life. Not so sure with ICS roms, right now. If you don't mind using GB rom, i would recommend you MUTANT ROM, not bad.
burak9393 said:
Hey guys I have galaxy w (I bought it 10 or 12 days ago).Don't worry i studied my lesson.I know how to root,flash,install apk etc.
I rooted my phone and installed REM ICS.But i'm not happy with it.Because it has a few problems
In the first place, i want to tell you what i'm looking for.
I just want proper sms app (no mms converting), WORKING gps,menu customization [not by date or title (i'm happy with touchwiz)]
Most important -> goot battery life.That's all folks.
But i can't find a rom that meets my wishes.
Now i'll install rebel rom 3.0.6.
But if you have a recommendation PLEASE let me know.
p.s. : I'm sorry if there are grammar mistakes.Thanks in advance. :good:
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If you are looking for an economical premises ROM battery GB ROM only the best in my opinion.
I myself have come back to GB after I felt in CM9 b8 only for reasons of battery.
I myself use kezra v4 final ROM, kernel xxlm8. And what you need everything works fine here.
Try cm9 beta 1, major issues fixed,read the thread
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dollyaja said:
Try cm9 beta 1, major issues fixed,read the thread
Sent from my GT-I8150 using xda premium
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Also, try upgrading baseband. Older baseband might have bugs that made it too aggressive and/or not smart enough to tune power usage.
Back in the CM9 thread, someone posted that he experienced a great boost in battery life after upgrading baseband.
Word of caution: make sure that the newer baseband is compatible with your country's networks.
_____ Galaxy W + Mutant ROM + xda app _____
I want a stable ROM for my younger brother's WFS, i tried to do some search but found tons of them,thus didnt had time to read everyones working and not working list, so please i need your kind suggestion, looking for a simple ROM which has gud battery life + small size...
Librastar said:
I want a stable ROM for my younger brother's WFS, i tried to do some search but found tons of them,thus didnt had time to read everyones working and not working list, so please i need your kind suggestion, looking for a simple ROM which has gud battery life + small size...
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It always depends on your usage.................
Stock rom is probably not bad option for stability and battery life.........You can also try sense 3.5, it has been stable for me............CM10 is also stable(Though battery life is a bit low) and I am using it now.............and CM10.1 by OWLTeam is also a good option(Battery life is good, mostly stable though has a few bugs(WiFi Hotspot and photo editor)).
Hi everyone,
I would like to ask some advices for the z1 compact battery life.
I actually have a stock rom with not a bad battery life but, you know, i'd like to have more if i can.
So i red some threads and i installed some apps for battery life.
I actually have installed hibernation manager and rooter booster.
The first one is an application that is activated when the screen is locked, the other, since it doesn't say this, is always activated i guess. (at least, it's what i thought, and i still don't exactly know)
So my question is this...
For a nice battery life:
1. shall i first stay on stock rom or custom rom?
2. which and HOW MANY apps should i use? (i also red about greenify and amplify but since i have the 5.1.1 version of lollipop and i red that amplify and greenify doesn't know all the wakelocks and services.. I mean i red that you should try yourself for all of those services to block since they don't have an explanation for that and so i took these other 2 apps)
The stock rom that i actually have i downloaded it from this forum and doesn't have full gapps i think which is good for me, i don't really need them but what i mean is that it's not the original rom.
Thank you for your attention
user1254 said:
Hi everyone,
I would like to ask some advices for the z1 compact battery life.
I actually have a stock rom with not a bad battery life but, you know, i'd like to have more if i can.
So i red some threads and i installed some apps for battery life.
I actually have installed hibernation manager and rooter booster.
The first one is an application that is activated when the screen is locked, the other, since it doesn't say this, is always activated i guess. (at least, it's what i thought, and i still don't exactly know)
So my question is this...
For a nice battery life:
1. shall i first stay on stock rom or custom rom?
2. which and HOW MANY apps should i use? (i also red about greenify and amplify but since i have the 5.1.1 version of lollipop and i red that amplify and greenify doesn't know all the wakelocks and services.. I mean i red that you should try yourself for all of those services to block since they don't have an explanation for that and so i took these other 2 apps)
The stock rom that i actually have i downloaded it from this forum and doesn't have full gapps i think which is good for me, i don't really need them but what i mean is that it's not the original rom.
Thank you for your attention
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You can try that app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539568 :fingers-crossed:
It's working great for me...
bratusm said:
You can try that app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539568 :fingers-crossed:
It's working great for me...
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Thank you for your answer,
i read something about that app and i'm not so confident in spending more
if i really have to spend more money i'd like to use them on apps more famous like greenify and amplify but still i don't know if it's really worth it cause of lollipop 5.1.1 and also about using stock rom or custom roms
user1254 said:
Thank you for your answer,
i read something about that app and i'm not so confident in spending more
if i really have to spend more money i'd like to use them on apps more famous like greenify and amplify but still i don't know if it's really worth it cause of lollipop 5.1.1 and also about using stock rom or custom roms
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You don't need to buy pro version... Basic version is free and it gives you AI mode. Just install it and give it a try. Then, if you'll see improvement, you will decide...
Greenify is also free for basic work.
bratusm said:
You don't need to buy pro version... Basic version is free and it gives you AI mode. Just install it and give it a try. Then, if you'll see improvement, you will decide...
Greenify is also free for basic work.
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Oh, nice.
But shall i use only that app or i can use more ?
I mean more apps might go in conflict in my opinion so i don't know if i shall use my apps in pro version as well.
Also i'd like to know if OPG app is active while screen is active (so when i'm using the phone) and / or when the screen is disabled (again because of my app that works only when the screen if off.)
I have activated stamina mode and energy saving from sony and i know they're helpful but do they "fight" with other apps that are supposed to save some battery?
Thank you
Your concern is correct.
IMAO there should not be more than one main manager, otherwise they will fight with each other.
Democracy and voting are best in TV.
F308 said:
Your concern is correct.
IMAO there should not be more than one main manager, otherwise they will fight with each other.
Democracy and voting are best in TV.
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"Democracy and voting are best in TV"
What do you exactly mean?
I should use just stamina mode, stamina mode and just a battery saver app like let's say amplify, or just amplify? Is that what you meant? :S
Some few tips for best battery life. There are better t threads you can find more information from, so:
- Use direct AC charge instead of USB whenever possible
- Always make sure your network (2G/3G/4G) wherever you are is strong. Weak signal will kill your battery very fast. Biggest battery drain imo on top of using mobile data on lollipop.
- Switch network to 2G when on wifi
- Toggle GPS, Data, WiFi off if not in use (I use Tasker to automate this mostly)
- Greenify + amplify
- get a custom kernel and tweak device parameters for optimum battery savings. A good deep sleep should give you less drain when screen is off.
So basically it's more to do with managing your device as well as usage.
Am on z1c stock 5.1.1 with advanced kernel v16.
bumjrah said:
Some few tips for best battery life. There are better t threads you can find more information from, so:
- Use direct AC charge instead of USB whenever possible
- Always make sure your network (2G/3G/4G) wherever you are is strong. Weak signal will kill your battery very fast. Biggest battery drain imo on top of using mobile data on lollipop.
- Switch network to 2G when on wifi
- Toggle GPS, Data, WiFi off if not in use (I use Tasker to automate this mostly)
- Greenify + amplify
- get a custom kernel and tweak device parameters for optimum battery savings. A good deep sleep should give you less drain when screen is off.
So basically it's more to do with managing your device as well as usage.
Am on z1c stock 5.1.1 with advanced kernel v16.
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I was thinking about using a custom rom like mx rom v8 or dstriker rom which are both indicated for battery life ( i also read that people are pretty happy with their battery life with both roms) and using one of this rom i thought i could use at least amplify ( maybe greenify too but not so sure) and stamina mode and energy saver both from sony. Would that be good or there are too many battery saver apps?
Thank you
user1254 said:
Oh, nice.
But shall i use only that app or i can use more ?
I mean more apps might go in conflict in my opinion so i don't know if i shall use my apps in pro version as well.
Also i'd like to know if OPG app is active while screen is active (so when i'm using the phone) and / or when the screen is disabled (again because of my app that works only when the screen if off.)
I have activated stamina mode and energy saving from sony and i know they're helpful but do they "fight" with other apps that are supposed to save some battery?
Thank you
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I'm using OPG Pro and Greenify pro...
I started with both "free versions" and then I decided, as they did together excellent job, to buy them...
Try and see... It's up to you and your phone, as it may differ from mine... :fingers-crossed:
user1254 said:
I was thinking about using a custom rom like mx rom v8 or dstriker rom which are both indicated for battery life ( i also read that people are pretty happy with their battery life with both roms) and using one of this rom i thought i could use at least amplify ( maybe greenify too but not so sure) and stamina mode and energy saver both from sony. Would that be good or there are too many battery saver apps?
Thank you
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Both those roms have been rated to be more battery friendly. I have not used any of them as I prefer stock. However, you can't go wrong with both amplify & greenify. Greenify is just simply a must for any rooted Android user.
You can also use BBS app to check wakelocks & alarms that drain your battery. That way you'll know exactly what is eating your battery!
bumjrah said:
Both those roms have been rated to be more battery friendly. I have not used any of them as I prefer stock. However, you can't go wrong with both amplify & greenify. Greenify is just simply a must for any rooted Android user.
You can also use BBS app to check wakelocks & alarms that drain your battery. That way you'll know exactly what is eating your battery!
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Thanks all
I'll try something this week and i'll update with new stats!
Hey guys,
i read again some threads and i came out with these conclusions..
1. Maybe the BEST battery life (at least based on comments is the munjeni's kk .108 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...-108latest-t2862578/post55138305#post55138305) but i don't like kk that much... i was hoping on lp
2. I saw also the DstrikerZ1 Kai ROM SP001 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...velopment/rom-dstrikerz1-kai-rom-4-5-t2980761 which should be good for battery life and i thought i could use stamina mode and amplify as well but i don't which kernel should i use for this rom (help me out please )
Since i like lollipop more than kitkat shall i try dstriker rom with a custom kernel (don't know which one though, don't have any idea) and i'd like to ask if someone notice a much difference beetwen these 2 roms.
Thank you all!
user1254 said:
Hey guys,
i read again some threads and i came out with these conclusions..
1. Maybe the BEST battery life (at least based on comments is the munjeni's kk .108 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...-108latest-t2862578/post55138305#post55138305) but i don't like kk that much... i was hoping on lp
2. I saw also the DstrikerZ1 Kai ROM SP001 -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/son...velopment/rom-dstrikerz1-kai-rom-4-5-t2980761 which should be good for battery life and i thought i could use stamina mode and amplify as well but i don't which kernel should i use for this rom (help me out please )
Since i like lollipop more than kitkat shall i try dstriker rom with a custom kernel (don't know which one though, don't have any idea) and i'd like to ask if someone notice a much difference beetwen these 2 roms.
Thank you all!
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KK is a big winner in battery life against Lollipop
you can try munjeni s 108 build to compare with any lollipop with any kernel and see for yourself.
i love the looks of lollipop but i always come back in kit kat,have no choice because of battery life and i don t think i miss performance or any important feature from lollipop
BTW i m on kit slim evo 9,great rom also regarding battery life.